forced feminization TGQM

[MadAl777]

Status report: Amazing news! I managed to create a system that makes NPCs “remember” your PC before the change! So now, once PC gets tricked by Lim and - he will hear from NPCs something like: “I thought you were a guy…” RN working on a dialogues for such conversations!

[AlyssaAwoo]

On 11/7/2025 at 12:06 AM, MadAl777 said:

Status report: Amazing news! I managed to create a system that makes NPCs “remember” your PC before the change! So now, once PC gets tricked by Lim and - he will hear from NPCs something like: “I thought you were a guy…” RN working on a dialogues for such conversations!

"Dragonborn? More like Girlborn"    *gets shouted apart harder than the High King* 

[Raven 54]

can anyone post a picture of their HIMBO pre & post transformation?

To be honest I would like to try this mod but when I went to HIMBO page I hated the way the body looks, is that just bad screen grabs or does it look that bad in game?

Does this mod work without HIMBO??

I use SOS, Tempered skins for males SOS version. 

Thanks

Edited November 9, 2025 by Caveman 74

[MadAl777]

3 hours ago, Caveman 74 said:

can anyone post a picture of their HIMBO pre & post transformation?

To be honest I would like to try this mod but when I went to HIMBO page I hated the way the body looks, is that just bad screen grabs or does it look that bad in game?

Does this mod work without HIMBO??

I use SOS, Tempered skins for males SOS version. 

Thanks

It should work without HIMBO but you will not see any difference in the body changing of a male. Do not use on important saves!

Edited November 9, 2025 by MadAl777

[AlyssaAwoo]

8 hours ago, Caveman 74 said:

can anyone post a picture of their HIMBO pre & post transformation?

To be honest I would like to try this mod but when I went to HIMBO page I hated the way the body looks, is that just bad screen grabs or does it look that bad in game?

Does this mod work without HIMBO??

I use SOS, Tempered skins for males SOS version. 

Thanks

 

I use a lower character weight so the character is slimmer overall, but this is how it looked for me. 

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I don't know why the neck looks so long and weird, maybe that's just male skeleton shenanigans. But I find it looks pretty okay! (Don't mind the concussions, I may have gotten in a fight or two.)

Edited November 9, 2025 by AlyssaAwoo

[Raven 54]

47 minutes ago, AlyssaAwoo said:

 

I use a lower character weight so the character is slimmer overall, but this is how it looked for me. 

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I don't know why the neck looks so long and weird, maybe that's just male skeleton shenanigans. But I find it looks pretty okay! (Don't mind the concussions, I may have gotten in a fight or two.)

Thanks for posting those images, I just do not like Himbo, the author said it might work with my se up but why use the mod if the cahanges won't show.

I appreciate you posting those so I could see.

@MadAl777 you should have pics on the main page showing the progression from start to finish, at least then it would show users what to expect from your work.

I am sure it is a fine mod, I just lament the choice of HIMBO as a starting point. 

Thanks to you both.

[MadAl777]

2 hours ago, Caveman 74 said:

Thanks for posting those images, I just do not like Himbo, the author said it might work with my se up but why use the mod if the cahanges won't show.

I appreciate you posting those so I could see.

@MadAl777 you should have pics on the main page showing the progression from start to finish, at least then it would show users what to expect from your work.

I am sure it is a fine mod, I just lament the choice of HIMBO as a starting point. 

Thanks to you both.

I'll upload an image when I'll drop a new WIP version for testing.

[KentuckyExpat]

22 hours ago, Caveman 74 said:

Thanks for posting those images, I just do not like Himbo, the author said it might work with my se up but why use the mod if the changes won't show.

I appreciate you posting those so I could see.

@MadAl777 you should have pics on the main page showing the progression from start to finish, at least then it would show users what to expect from your work.

I am sure it is a fine mod, I just lament the choice of HIMBO as a starting point. 

Thanks to you both.

It's not clear that you fully understand why HIMBO is needed. HIMBO is only there to allow you to see the initial body changes rather than just having to imagine them. It's purpose is to increase immersion even if the effects are very short term.

 

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The PC drinks four potions altogether. If you're using HIMBO, the three changes that are shown after drinking the first three potions are fleeting. The first three are the ones that cause the body changes - wider hips, narrower shoulders and... boobs,  but once the third potion is drunk and the effects of it are shown. the PC demands that these changes be reversed. The alchemist gives him a fourth potion which is supposed to reverse the body changes. When he drinks that one the original changes are reversed but almost immediately afterwards he becomes a woman. At which point the presence or absence of HIMBO becomes irrelevant.

Even with HIMBO the first two body changes are subtle enough that you really have to look hard to see them (my experience, anyway) but the third one is unmistakable. In any case, the HIMBO requirement only is of importance if you want to actually see the effects of the first three potions on your PC. Otherwise, just treat it as a recommendation.

 

[Raven 54]

17 minutes ago, KentuckyExpat said:

It's not clear that you fully understand why HIMBO is needed. HIMBO is only there to allow you to see the initial body changes rather than just having to imagine them. It's purpose is to increase immersion even if the effects are very short term.

 

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The PC drinks four potions altogether. If you're using HIMBO, the three changes that are shown after drinking the first three potions are fleeting. The first three are the ones that cause the body changes - wider hips, narrower shoulders and... boobs,  but once the third potion is drunk and the effects of it are shown. the PC demands that these changes be reversed. The alchemist gives him a fourth potion which is supposed to reverse the body changes. When he drinks that one the original changes are reversed but almost immediately afterwards he becomes a woman. At which point the presence or absence of HIMBO becomes irrelevant.

Even with HIMBO the first two body changes are subtle enough that you really have to look hard to see them (my experience, anyway) but the third one is unmistakable. In any case, the HIMBO requirement only is of importance if you want to actually see the effects of the first three potions on your PC. Otherwise, just treat it as a recommendation.

 

Thank You for the detailed explanation, you were right that I did not understand, I wish the mod page had a detailed explanation with images, would have saved me from looking ignorant.       

[KentuckyExpat]

11 hours ago, Caveman 74 said:

Thank You for the detailed explanation, you were right that I did not understand, I wish the mod page had a detailed explanation with images, would have saved me from looking ignorant.       

Not a problem. Just paying it forward for all the times the same thing happened to me and someone else (figuratively) took me by the hand to led me out of the thicket.

Edited November 11, 2025 by KentuckyExpat

[MadAl777]

Status report: Done making dialogues for NPCs with disposition rank 0 and <=-1 and >=1 <=3 towards player (Their reacts towards player alteration). Integrated SPID for conflict free edits of NPCs within the factions listed below:

To do is:

Reactions for jarls

Reaction for current followers (that literally standing with in the moment of changing)

Reaction from factions: college of winterhold\dark brotherhood\thieves guild\dawnguard\clan volkihar\bards college\companions and vampy girls: Serana and Valerica

Reaction for: lovers\spouses

Reaction for: children (adopted\and ones on the streets)

Edited November 12, 2025 by MadAl777

[MadAl777]

The logic of the scripts in the modification has been completely reworked.

A system for NPCs to remember the main character has been added! To clarify: NPCs will remember the male main character and react when the main character suddenly becomes a girl.

Dialogues with Lim have been reworked.

At this point, the quest is interrupted as Lim gives the player her potions (until the next update).

Improved script performance. The modification is now more refined in terms of how it works.

With update 2.0, consider that the modification has completely transitioned to WIP, i.e. quests/script logic/characters/requirements for modification will change over time and over adding new features!

DO NOT USE ON IMPORTANT SAVES ANYMORE UNTIL RELEASE OF THE MOD!!!

To do:

Name changing option where you can type the name you want via UIExtensions;

TNG support for Futa ending;

Finish initial dialogue with Lim;

The quest itself with 3 global endings;

Add new dialogues-reactions for another factions other than Dark Brotherhood and Jarls; and for lovers and for spouses and for adopted children and for actual followers and... (I already forgot what I wanted to add :P)

Edited November 14, 2025 by MadAl777

[arlaine]

amazing, thank you for putting this out there. very very excited to see where you take it!

[alexsl]

Is there a possibility to put on modpage activily what the mod does ? I get it slowly make male pc force feminize but what are the effect ? There is no picture exactly beside that one which i dont know if it is from the mod or just an image to showcase possibility. I am into force fem and did try bimbo of skyrim which is the only one i knew of before this came along. How does it differ ? Does it include bondage as it is forced ?

[MadAl777]

29 minutes ago, alexsl said:

Is there a possibility to put on modpage activily what the mod does ? I get it slowly make male pc force feminize but what are the effect ? There is no picture exactly beside that one which i dont know if it is from the mod or just an image to showcase possibility. I am into force fem and did try bimbo of skyrim which is the only one i knew of before this came along. How does it differ ? Does it include bondage as it is forced ?

The most important thing:

There is no direct forced feminization here. (A conditionally evil mage turns you into a girl - no, there is no such thing here).

I don't know how the change is implemented in BoS, so I can't say what the real difference is from my mod.

To simplify it, you get three potions: one increases your health, another increases your stamina, and the third increases your magic from Lim - a young alchemist. Each of these potions changes the main character's body. You can safely drink any two potions (without turning into a woman). If you drink all three at once, without waiting for the effects of the first two to wear off, you will trigger a scene where the main character turns into a woman. Thats probably it for now.

The real change is the “memory system” for NPCs as it mentioned - they will actually react on changed player if you had talked to them (opened a dialogue menu with them at least for a 1 second). Once ur PC became a woman - they will literally react - you will have a tiny dialogue that depends on their opinion to your PC and faction. 
 

The whole key point of my mod is to create an immersive small quest for player feminization (with some forced features - they will be added later) with different choices and easter eggs. I want to achieve BG3 effect - dialogues/choices/game mechanics that will actually change your endings.

 

And sorry for no screenshots. My lazy ass cannot open photo mode and make some good shots.

Edited November 15, 2025 by MadAl777

[alexsl]

1 hour ago, MadAl777 said:

The most important thing:

There is no direct forced feminization here. (A conditionally evil mage turns you into a girl - no, there is no such thing here).

I don't know how the change is implemented in BoS, so I can't say what the real difference is from my mod.

To simplify it, you get three potions: one increases your health, another increases your stamina, and the third increases your magic from Lim - a young alchemist. Each of these potions changes the main character's body. You can safely drink any two potions (without turning into a woman). If you drink all three at once, without waiting for the effects of the first two to wear off, you will trigger a scene where the main character turns into a woman. Thats probably it for now.

The real change is the “memory system” for NPCs as it mentioned - they will actually react on changed player if you had talked to them (opened a dialogue menu with them at least for a 1 second). Once ur PC became a woman - they will literally react - you will have a tiny dialogue that depends on their opinion to your PC and faction. 
 

The whole key point of my mod is to create an immersive small quest for player feminization (with some forced features - they will be added later) with different choices and easter eggs. I want to achieve BG3 effect - dialogues/choices/game mechanics that will actually change your endings.

 

And sorry for no screenshots. My lazy ass cannot open photo mode and make some good shots.

 

Umh ok then. I rered the description then this reply which reflect each other and was wondering where i saw forced feminization, then realize it was the tag. I guess ill still check up for any update but I just hope to see any integration with some devious device. I guess its just me when i read forced i read restraint. But also i think it's what i see often under those tag.

[KentuckyExpat]

15 hours ago, alexsl said:

 

Umh ok then. I rered the description then this reply which reflect each other and was wondering where i saw forced feminization, then realize it was the tag. I guess ill still check up for any update but I just hope to see any integration with some devious device. I guess its just me when i read forced i read restraint. But also i think it's what i see often under those tag.

From playing this mod since almost the beginning, I think a better term would be "involuntary", i.e. "if you do x and y you will be transformed into a woman."

[alexsl]

2 hours ago, KentuckyExpat said:

From playing this mod since almost the beginning, I think a better term would be "involuntary", i.e. "if you do x and y you will be transformed into a woman."

 

I 100% agree with that it seem more close to the effect 

[SkyAddiction]

On 11/14/2025 at 6:19 PM, MadAl777 said:

I don't know how the change is implemented in BoS, so I can't say what the real difference is from my mod.

 

BoS doesn't feminize your character, it makes your female character into a bimbo who can't quest on her own and needs lots of sex.

 

There is an existing collab between BoS and YPS and its sex change mechanic. Essentially, if you're running BoS and have YPS installed, you can play as a male, accumulate too much BoS corruption, and the sex change mechanic in YPS will turn you female. Then the BoS corruption mechanic resets, and the next time you exceed the threshold, your character becomes a bimbo.

 

Having recently given your mod a test, I can say there's collaboration potential with BoS if that's something you would like to do.

 

Nice mod, btw. I'm not sure how or if it fits in my build, but it was a fun test. Neatly innovative.

[MadAl777]

5 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

 

BoS doesn't feminize your character, it makes your female character into a bimbo who can't quest on her own and needs lots of sex.

 

There is an existing collab between BoS and YPS and its sex change mechanic. Essentially, if you're running BoS and have YPS installed, you can play as a male, accumulate too much BoS corruption, and the sex change mechanic in YPS will turn you female. Then the BoS corruption mechanic resets, and the next time you exceed the threshold, your character becomes a bimbo.

 

Having recently given your mod a test, I can say there's collaboration potential with BoS if that's something you would like to do.

 

Nice mod, btw. I'm not sure how or if it fits in my build, but it was a fun test. Neatly innovative.

Prob I’ll add a mod event for my mod so author of BoS could just add it as an another mechanic for his mod.

[Unknown22923]

Been looking at this for a bit and see no one recent complain about it not working with legacy Sexlab, currently im using BoS->Yps gender change wich is awesome but i am fan of slow TFTG and this looks really well made!

Just posting this here and wait a bit in case it will make my PC blow up ^_^

[MadAl777]

6 minutes ago, Unknown22923 said:

Been looking at this for a bit and see no one recent complain about it not working with legacy Sexlab, currently im using BoS->Yps gender change wich is awesome but i am fan of slow TFTG and this looks really well made!

Just posting this here and wait a bit in case it will make my PC blow up ^_^

Thank you! Working hard on a new update with continuation with dialogue with Lim and new factions reactions for altered player!

[Unknown22923]

Works for me so far with Legacy Sexlab will do further testing.

Questions:

1 Do you use the default Himbo body in bodyslide?

2 Do you have any plans on adding a non hair texture for Himbo? was bit weird seeing full chest hair on big Mboobs : )

3 Plans for hair growth while male? not sure how tho ^^

[KentuckyExpat]

OK. Here's a preliminary status report.

 

I'm using HIMBO and SexLab P+ in my load order, per the new requirements.

If my PC drinks one or two potions I get the body changes. If my PC drinks all three, he transforms into a woman. So that seems to work.

Regardless of whether he drinks 1 or 2 potions, Lim, unlike in previous versions, makes no comments about the change(s). If he drinks all three in quick succession and transforms into a woman, again no reaction from Lim nor does the PC express any kind of surprise or anger at the transformation.  Also, his follower has no reaction to the change even though I made sure she was standing in front of the PC when the change occurred.If the transformed PC meets with any of the women he has impregnated previously, they react with disbelief, as expected. 

 

When I created the new PC in RaceMenu, I gave him a new, female name. As a result, when he introduces himself to those women, he uses that name when he tries to identify himself, i.e. he says something like "it's me, Viktoria" instead of "it's me, Viktor". Not sure how you can capture the masculine name to insert there instead of the new name. You might have to come up with a way to reconcile that since none of the women would have a clue as to who "Viktoria" is. 

[MadAl777]

6 hours ago, KentuckyExpat said:

OK. Here's a preliminary status report.

 

I'm using HIMBO and SexLab P+ in my load order, per the new requirements.

If my PC drinks one or two potions I get the body changes. If my PC drinks all three, he transforms into a woman. So that seems to work.

Regardless of whether he drinks 1 or 2 potions, Lim, unlike in previous versions, makes no comments about the change(s). If he drinks all three in quick succession and transforms into a woman, again no reaction from Lim nor does the PC express any kind of surprise or anger at the transformation.  Also, his follower has no reaction to the change even though I made sure she was standing in front of the PC when the change occurred.If the transformed PC meets with any of the women he has impregnated previously, they react with disbelief, as expected. 

 

When I created the new PC in RaceMenu, I gave him a new, female name. As a result, when he introduces himself to those women, he uses that name when he tries to identify himself, i.e. he says something like "it's me, Viktoria" instead of "it's me, Viktor". Not sure how you can capture the masculine name to insert there instead of the new name. You might have to come up with a way to reconcile that since none of the women would have a clue as to who "Viktoria" is. 

Yep, everything is working like it should - cuz after the transformation there is no any reactions nor dialogue for Lim.

It is good that SL legacy works fine - it means I haven't touched internal functions.

As for the name change - it will be shown once RaceMenu from the first transformation of the male PC is done. (I can't do anything about that - it's hardcoded in Skyrim) So you don't have to change your PC name once he is transformed. I will add new function of the name change through the quest line.

As for the reactions - they are not fully ready - for the 2.0 version there are reactions for unique NPCs and DB faction

New update will bring jarls reactions and companions from the circle (Aela, Farkas, Vilkas etc.)