Can't we just ditch Steam somehow?

[XunAmarox]

 

You can run all the script extenders directly, as far as I know. I've used them directly on Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout NV. I dunno, I may be forgetting a game or something, but yeah... you can run all the Beth games directly.

 

Cool. I keep Steam in offline mode and only go online with it when I feel like it. I launch Skryim with the SKSE launcher and FNV from the NVSE launcher. I guess I'll have to launch Oblivion with the OBSE launcher and see how it goes, but the instructions with it made it sound like it had to launch from Steam.

 

Well, a lot of people are like that... mostly due to how Nazi Nexus is about piracy... There are tons of mods that say "ONLY WORKS WITH LEGIT COPY OF SKYRIM" and so forth... but there's absolutely no reason that would actually be the case. It's just to make them look better, really.

[Captain Cobra]

Well, a lot of people are like that... mostly due to how Nazi Nexus is about piracy...

 

Honestly, lots of websites are like that.

Like here, for example.

[calranthe]

 

 

You can run all the script extenders directly, as far as I know. I've used them directly on Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout NV. I dunno, I may be forgetting a game or something, but yeah... you can run all the Beth games directly.

 

Cool. I keep Steam in offline mode and only go online with it when I feel like it. I launch Skryim with the SKSE launcher and FNV from the NVSE launcher. I guess I'll have to launch Oblivion with the OBSE launcher and see how it goes, but the instructions with it made it sound like it had to launch from Steam.

 

Well, a lot of people are like that... mostly due to how Nazi Nexus is about piracy... There are tons of mods that say "ONLY WORKS WITH LEGIT COPY OF SKYRIM" and so forth... but there's absolutely no reason that would actually be the case. It's just to make them look better, really.

 

 

I would not use the word Nazi in describing anything but how they acted in the second world war but I will state this and it is my own personal opinion not looking to get into a right or wrong of it all, Having been on the recieving end of people pirating my software and game, having seen good developers go down because the piracy was 90/10 and thus the bean counters thought the game was not good enough.

 

Having seen the level of GoG games and indie developers that release without DRM but still get pirated just as much as "evil drm" games that really does call bullshit on that excuse.

 

Steam has many options, yes you can run in offline mode, yes you can buy one copy of skyrim and have upto 10 friends and family play that same copy as long as not at the same time.

 

Skyrim was down to £3.75 in the last sale.

 

Bethesda is one of the LAST companies who truelly support people who mod, YES they make mistakes, yes they have bug riddled software but they are all we have, they provide a framework like no other for amazing people like Ashal and others to tinker with and us to enjoy.

 

And it costs a huge amount to make a game these days.

 

So Nexus stand on piracy should be every one of ours stand too and if not and your reason is principles then uninstall every pirated game you have and stand by your convictions after all games are not a nessecity .

 

 

Just to put this into context, I stopped supporting Blizzard as a company when WoW came out and certain dodgy practices, while I love diablo 1/2 and all the blizzard north games I have stood by my conviction never bought or played any blizzard game since,  I know that I would love diablo 3 even though torchlight and PoE are superior, I know that I would love starcraft 2 because I am a huge fan of RTS but I will never play them.

 

[XunAmarox]

I'm not advocating piracy, calranthe. I'm just saying that those types of messages on mods are stupid. They aren't true, and even if a dumb pirate did ask for help with their mod they'd just get insta-banned from Nexus anyways. It's just pointless all around.

 

Re: Nazis... Well, you can feel however you want about it. A lot of people get all butthurt and offended any time the word's dropped, regardless of context. It's just a modifier, like "grammar nazi," "soup nazi," and so forth. It's pretty much slang for anal retentiveness. Well, here in the US where I live anyways.

[D_ManXX2]

well it is due to them drm came into the market so yes everyone has the right to be pissed at them. And besides what is better then to support the game company without any income we would get no more games.

 

But let's face it everyone wants stuff for free, but if everything was free then no one would be making any money do they ??

 

The real problem with pirated copies is you have no idea what they did to the game to remove the DRM. For all we know they could have broken the game even more. or made it more unstable due to code removal.

 

So in modders point of view using a pirated copy and you are on your own do not ask for help that is one last group to worry about.

 

Less people to worry about is less hassle.

[...0...]

All who dl prirate games are losers thats how i see it.

 

Oh and i'll bet all who constantly condem and say nexus is evil prolly download more from nexus then those who have nothing agains nexus.

 

They whine and complain about nexus becouse they dl so much from nexus or are payed customers and think they own the site

[Otaku21]

i for 1 never had a problem with Steam or the Nexus for that matter, but ya i can understand why some people don't like it from the post here, and some who do,

 

tho i think if we did a Pro & Con outline of steam, i think we can agree its a Benefit to have, then others that are trying to be like it, Looking at you, Origin

[Guest corespore]

All who dl prirate games are losers thats how i see it.

 

Oh and i'll bet all who constantly condem and say nexus is evil prolly download more from nexus then those who have nothing agains nexus.

 

They whine and complain about nexus becouse they dl so much from nexus or are payed customers and think they own the site

When you buy a membership to the site you don't own the site but you sure as hell own some of that persons services. When you're paid to do a job you do it regardless of how much of a jack-wagon the paying customer acts like. But then again my morals about getting the job done no matter what is probably why i have never been without work while most of the moderation staff ot nexus hasn't had a job in years. I get pissed at the nexus staff because they sit on their sorry asses and tell me "if you don't like it then leave" after i paid 80 bucks for their services whereas i spent the better part of a week hand lifting a total of 60 tons of product into industrial washers just so i can pay my bills. So yes, you bet your ass i'm going to complain when i pay someone to do a job and they don't, it's called accountability, you should try it sometime . 

[Guest Ragna_Rok]

All who dl prirate games are losers thats how i see it.

 

Oh and i'll bet all who constantly condem and say nexus is evil prolly download more from nexus then those who have nothing agains nexus.

 

They whine and complain about nexus becouse they dl so much from nexus or are payed customers and think they own the site

 

you just lost your bet. actually after my ban i just used an alternate account to point some of my old fans towards my new santuary. the only things im gonna leech will be new land mods. weapons and armors... well, before i got banned, i browsed every single page of the skyrim mods. took me weeks. so i have about 100 mods left i didnt even install yet, im set for years

 

skywind is not on nexus anyway. weapons and other gear i have shitloads of, and quite frankly after i started modding i mainly use my own stuff. also noteworthy is the fact that lots of great modders stopped uploading there.

 

anyhow. nexus is a piece of shit, their moderators suck ass, you lost your bet, and now gimme a nice bottle of wine, a keg of german beer, or a months supply of nachos ( @beer: "grolsch" is also accepted )

 

ps: i know im just one fellow... but your bet said "ALL" ... gotcha

[Kendo 2]

What bothers me about STEAM:

I buy my game retail yet I have to activate it via Steam, even when I install from the disc.

Steam wants to update itself when I don't need it updated.  I could not care less about the community or using Steam to take screenshots.

Borked Bethesda game patches and pointless game udates cannot be avoided if I want to reinstall the game.  Steam forces the update.  It also forces DCLs, even if I don't want them installed.

Steam does all of this AND it doesn't stop piracy in the least.  It MIGHT slow down a few casual game swaps between friends but that is ALL it is stopping.

[...0...]

Don't take it all to serieus guys and personal its just a forum discussion about games nothing more.

 

I express my feelings on matter what and i keep doing that if you can't take some critics sorry but its not personal towards you ok.

 

I use nexus, never had any troubles with staff or site only crappy speed and crashes or offline, but i dont chat there and i will never EVER pay and premium for better dl in a million years ill leech for free what i can if they say they need money fine by me they eather cut me off or ill use there site for free there choice other wise im gone.

 

But becouse i use it for free i don't complain even its shitty site sometimes with crap connections and terible download speeds but its free so no complains here.

 

You modders do whatever you think you need to do, but i keep using nexus it still have plenty mods i can use.

 

My2cents on the matter.

 

Be happy there worse things in live or happening on this planet then some damn game and its mods.

 

Oh and steam is ok i use it for years and use live chat also plus screenshots and buying games burn me for that also ok

 

Burn me if you want

 

P.S Forgot to mention i buy also at GOG.COM for free DRM games hopefully this year The Witcher 3 so i don't use steam alone.

[Guest Ragna_Rok]

 

I express my feelings on matter what and i keep doing that if you can't take some critics sorry but its not personal towards you ok.

jeez.... we got a little diva / dramaqueen here, eh? well, go ahead, express your feelings... i go back to exercises and not giving a fuck.

 

(you just wasted a great opportunity to use my "pass" to score an awesome joke, instead you come up with that "im so important for the world that I HAVE TO explain myself to those folks so that they can bathe in my glory" .... boooooooring )

[Corpus Vile]

You can run all the script extenders directly, as far as I know. I've used them directly on Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout NV. I dunno, I may be forgetting a game or something, but yeah... you can run all the Beth games directly.

You don't need Steam for Oblivion (there is a Steam version, but there's no reason to get that when you can have a non-Steam one), but there is no legal way to start the SKSE without triggering Steam to launch.

That's because there is no legitimate way to play Skyrim without at least having Steam running.

 

On topic, I don't have a problem with Steam. Every autoupdate (to the game or to the client itself), notification or otherwise unnecessary feature can be disabled or at least forced to wait until you're not playing, so, yeah.

[Yami X]

blame pirates for that part.. remember oblivion ?? it did not have any drm till pirates started to screw game company.

 

You can blame pirates for everything yet you'd still be wrong since now It's the scapegoat for every company that wants to screw you over.

 

I dislike steam so I don't use it I hate drm just that much.

[...0...]

 

 

I express my feelings on matter what and i keep doing that if you can't take some critics sorry but its not personal towards you ok.

jeez.... we got a little diva / dramaqueen here, eh? well, go ahead, express your feelings... i go back to exercises and not giving a fuck.

 

(you just wasted a great opportunity to use my "pass" to score an awesome joke, instead you come up with that "im so important for the world that I HAVE TO explain myself to those folks so that they can bathe in my glory" .... boooooooring )

 

 

You feel importend, thats ok i'll don't bother you anymore

[gvman3670]

What bothers me about STEAM:

I buy my game retail yet I have to activate it via Steam, even when I install from the disc.

Steam wants to update itself when I don't need it updated.  I could not care less about the community or using Steam to take screenshots.

Borked Bethesda game patches and pointless game udates cannot be avoided if I want to reinstall the game.  Steam forces the update.  It also forces DCLs, even if I don't want them installed.

Steam does all of this AND it doesn't stop piracy in the least.  It MIGHT slow down a few casual game swaps between friends but that is ALL it is stopping.

 

Stopping game swaps is all Steam is there for in all honesty. It can't stop anything else. It only affects those who legally purchased games and doesn't have any affect at all on pirated/illegal stuff (making it just as stupid and pointless as gun legislation, but that's another topic).

 

Bethesda rose to the top of the heap with people swapping and trading physical copies of games.

 

[D_ManXX2]

They are spying everywhere on people now, it just a matter of time when pirates will be struck with a final blow. The NSA already showed the way. Then they can remove those DRM Not that that will ever happen.

 

DRM is just another spy tool we all got that now.

[Guest corespore]

I don't mind steam per say, but i don't like the fact i had no choice but to have them download their crap onto my PC just i could legally enjoy my game. Steam atleast tries to make their inconvenience worth our time by offering something for said time, they might fail more often than not but i do acknowledge some effort on their part. But forcing people to deal with them is their worst short failing, whether or not their service is reasonable becomes beside the point when they force their services down our windpipes. Had they given me the choice i still would have used their site, but the fact i HAD to deal with them does make me resentful. I hate thieves but i every time i go to play Skyrim and i have to check in with steam to do it i can't feel some understanding for those who choose to play by other means, it's not right, but i understand. What worries me is that no site stays up forever so whats going to happens to our games when\if Steam goes belly up? If the site isn't there then all our games become unplayable.   

[...0...]

Can you play old cd's from 15 years ago i don't many over time damage or need dosbox which also is buggy.

 

Steam is not perfect thats why i buy games from gog.com but its still handy also ive got games there i can play any where in the world as long i have pc install steam and internet.

 

 Who bring all his game s with him going to other country?

 

I got a laptop with at least 35 gog games DRM FREE and around 25 games on steam and 100 game disks cd/dvd.

 

Risk is there always if a company go broke like valve and you maybe lose all your games but thats likely not happen soon.

 

Steam is the least evil of most DRM go EA ORIGIN or ubisoft they are worse.

 

To each his own offcorse you eather like it or not.

 

How many of you have have chrome/youtube account-facebook-twitter and other social media or smartphone?... who at same time say steam is evil and be honest don't lie hehe how many of you?

 

If you realy wanne be DRM FREE you wont have any social media and smartphone also they spy on ALOT MORE then steam.

[Guest corespore]

I'm not worried about spying, if anyone wants to spy on me spanking it to interweb porn more power to them. I just think nobody should have to ask permission to play their own games, thats the bain of sites like steam or any media content distributor these days, they treat everyone like criminals.