The Oblivion remake is real!

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

Not that I'm all that surprised about it being real, I just hope it's modable...

 

 

[Count Chocula]

1 hour ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

Not that I'm all that surprised about it being real, I just hope it's modable...

 

This falls into the category of "I'll believe it when I see it," like VtM: Bloodlines 2.

 

Is "Half-life 3 confirmed!" still a meme?

[Miauzi]

So what is it?

 

A remake or rather a "remaster"... for my wife (she's the "nerd"), it's a "remaster"... and it's apparently not being produced by "Bugdesta" himself - but by "VIRTUOS"

 

What's strange to me is that the mod project "Skyblivion" is about to be released... and whoops, now Mr. Todd H. also has a "remake"

 

 

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

So what is it?

 

A remake or rather a "remaster"... for my wife (she's the "nerd"), it's a "remaster"... and it's apparently not being produced by "Bugdesta" himself - but by "VIRTUOS"

 

What's strange to me is that the mod project "Skyblivion" is about to be released... and whoops, now Mr. Todd H. also has a "remake"

 

 

 

I noticed that as well, Skyblivion has been in the works for a while, and it's not like they have kept the expected release window for that a secret. Even the timing and decision to do a remake of Oblivion in the first place is suspect, considering Todd's stance on remakes.

 

If this one turns out good, hopefully they will do Morrowind, though I doubt it. I know they are doing a Fallout 3 remake though, and I know of a fan made remake called Skywind, which aims to remake Morrowind in Skyrim's engine, though that one is still a way off from release, if I remember correctly.

[Miauzi]

Vor 18 Minuten sagte Z0mBieP00Nani:

 

Mir ist auch aufgefallen, dass Skyblivion schon länger in Arbeit ist, und es ist nicht so, als hätten sie das voraussichtliche Veröffentlichungsfenster geheim gehalten. Schon der Zeitpunkt und die Entscheidung, Oblivion überhaupt neu zu machen, sind angesichts von Todds Haltung zu Remakes fragwürdig.

 

Wenn das gut wird, werden sie hoffentlich Morrowind machen, obwohl ich das bezweifle. Ich weiß aber, dass sie ein Fallout 3-Remake machen, und ich kenne ein von Fans erstelltes Remake namens Skywind, das Morrowind in der Skyrim-Engine neu auflegen soll. Das ist aber, wenn ich mich recht erinnere, noch eine Weile hin.

 

I've been playing "Fallout London" for a week now... his mod, which hundreds of authors have worked on for many years.

 

It's basically a full-fledged "Fallout 4" - but instead of Boston, the playing field is the city of London.

 

Mr. Todd H. has repeatedly sabotaged this project... among other things, he made a financial offer to one of the most important project managers - which he apparently couldn't refuse.

This alone delayed the planned release by about six months.

 

Next, after the official launch date was announced, he gave "Fallout 4's" engine an "upgrade."

This forced the mod team to put even more work into their project - so that this mega-mod would run on both "models" (the "old" and "new" Fallout).

 

After what happened with "Fallout London," I knew he would commit further acts of sabotage against the free mod scene because of the two other mega-mod projects.

 

What he can't control, he tries to destroy... because otherwise, he'd have to explain to his superiors in the corporation why "amateurs" (who work for free) can create much better things than his own programming department... which needs hundreds of millions of dollars for a new game!

 

This kind of behavior is ultimately nothing new to me - unfortunately, I've encountered it too often in my professional life... and it wasn't about insignificant things like computer games!!!

 

I've also been following the "Skywind" project you mentioned for years - and hope it will be finished at some point.
"Morrowind" was my introduction to the TES world.

https://tesrskywind.com/

Edited April 16, 2025 by Miauzi

[oblivioner]

They keep trying to get the golden goose to lay an egg that they can turn into a minimal-work live service gravy train.
 

They keep releasing Skyrim on damn near everything.

 

They failed to secure that with FO76 because the Creation Engine is just not good at multiplayer, and they were completely unprepared for an MMOPvP playerbase.

 

They failed to get a good mod scene going in Starfield in part because BG3 brilliance shows the bugthesda game process for what it is.

 

So now they're going to release a contracted out upgrade of Oblivion, apparently remade without using the Creation Engine so none of the mods or modding community will be able to work in what they know.

 

And Oblivion's story *sucked* outside of Shivering Isles
 

[Encon4]

 

 

...And where's TES 6???

 

[Count Chocula]

1 hour ago, oblivioner said:

They failed to get a good mod scene going in Starfield in part because BG3 brilliance shows the bugthesda game process for what it is.

On that tangent, you must have played a different BG3 than I did. Unlike Skyrim, for example, if you play BG3 once, maybe twice, playing it again is the same-old-same-old.

 

And back on topic, as I mentioned I'm not holding my breath for an Oblivion remake/remaster. Nor for Skyblivion or Skywind. Maybe when Star Citizen goes open beta, in 2080.

Edited April 16, 2025 by chocula

[Grey Cloud]

1 hour ago, chocula said:

On that tangent, you must have played a different BG3 than I did. Unlike Skyrim, for example, if you play BG3 once, maybe twice, playing it again is the same-old-same-old.

Something we agree on. I never finished BG3 even though it was modded. BG3 is the most over-hyped game I've seen. Also people forget how buggy it was on release.

[oblivioner]

2 hours ago, chocula said:

On that tangent, you must have played a different BG3 than I did. Unlike Skyrim, for example, if you play BG3 once, maybe twice, playing it again is the same-old-same-old.

The trick is exactly like how heavily adult modded skyrim can work.

 

Don't aim for a perfect run.  Just run with it, don't savescum the dice rolls and conversations.

[Count Chocula]

8 minutes ago, oblivioner said:

The trick is exactly like how heavily adult modded skyrim can work.

 

Don't aim for a perfect run.  Just run with it, don't savescum the dice rolls and conversations.

Not sure what your point is.

 

Someone bought BG3 in early access for me as a gift, because they knew I'm a big fan of BG1 and 2. I would never buy a game in early access. During EA I played it a lot, exploring different classes, subclasses, playstyles, etc. When the release version came out, it was fun enough, until I got to the final boss fight. By that time I had had enough of the tedium of the turn-based combat (it's not a good sign when it's possible to play a game, get up and walk away for several minutes and when you get back the game is still playing with itself). In any event, I stopped playing during the final boss fight because every time I thought "OK, finally" the game said "No, sorry, there's more." When I find myself asking "Isn't this thing over yet?" (which happens a lot with Skyrim/Fallout mods because amateur mod makers are, as a group, even less skilled at level/quest design than pros are), that's when it's time to hang it up. I prefer the more sandbox type of game like Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout, not to mention BG1 and 2, to the linear play of BG3.

[DrunkenCow]

120gb.  

Using UE5 for graphics.

 

Pretty much a case study in how to kill off your modding fan base to show your new boss you can make money.  If they add mtx for weekly horse armor it'll be the perfect nail in the coffin.

[gimmedope]

While this looks nice and all, I'd rather like to see what ES6 looks like. Bethesda really missed the opportunity here. But I have a feeling ES6 is still a few years away.

 

At this point, it's more likely for Loverslab modders to make a worthy Skyrim successor than Bethesda.

 

 

[Wandering_Mania]

2 hours ago, gimmedope said:

At this point, it's more likely for Loverslab modders to make a worthy Skyrim successor than Bethesda.

Seeing as how most the people that made Skyrim are no longer at BGS; That is a big possibility. Especially with the lack of freedom that they have now.

But my bet is that TES6 wont come out until 2030 at least, maybe longer. BGS is all fucked up now, all fucked up.

 

But as to the OP:

If it don't come out on Steam... Who cares?

If it's not modable... Who cares?

 

Because as far as I understand it, it's a 'game pass exclusive'; And I ain't payin' no subscription fee, just to play the Oblivion remaster, and a heap of trash games.

[Count Chocula]

8 hours ago, gimmedope said:

While this looks nice and all, I'd rather like to see what ES6 looks like. Bethesda really missed the opportunity here. But I have a feeling ES6 is still a few years away.

I saw someone's prediction for Fallout 5 as 2032. Pretty sure most people expect ES6 to be out before FO5. But let's say 2032 is accurate for FO5. Is 7 years enough time to get ES6 and then FO5 up and running? Seems unlikely to me.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

16 hours ago, DrunkenCow said:

120gb.  

Using UE5 for graphics.

 

Pretty much a case study in how to kill off your modding fan base to show your new boss you can make money.  If they add mtx for weekly horse armor it'll be the perfect nail in the coffin.

 

12 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Seeing as how most the people that made Skyrim are no longer at BGS; That is a big possibility. Especially with the lack of freedom that they have now.

But my bet is that TES6 wont come out until 2030 at least, maybe longer. BGS is all fucked up now, all fucked up.

 

But as to the OP:

If it don't come out on Steam... Who cares?

If it's not modable... Who cares?

 

Because as far as I understand it, it's a 'game pass exclusive'; And I ain't payin' no subscription fee, just to play the Oblivion remaster, and a heap of trash games.

 

I'm also worried about the modding part. They'd be pretty dumb to cut out their PC fan base, I mean if it's not on PC legitimately there are... other ways, to make that happen.. FREE ways. 😆 In all seriousness, I don't think they will cut out teir PC fan base, because then they would be losing money either way.

 

I saw a comment under one YouTube video that suggested that it might drop after another TES 6 announcement, tomorrow, which seems believable to me.

[FauxFurry]

On 4/16/2025 at 6:03 PM, chocula said:

Not sure what your point is.

 

Someone bought BG3 in early access for me as a gift, because they knew I'm a big fan of BG1 and 2. I would never buy a game in early access. During EA I played it a lot, exploring different classes, subclasses, playstyles, etc. When the release version came out, it was fun enough, until I got to the final boss fight. By that time I had had enough of the tedium of the turn-based combat (it's not a good sign when it's possible to play a game, get up and walk away for several minutes and when you get back the game is still playing with itself). In any event, I stopped playing during the final boss fight because every time I thought "OK, finally" the game said "No, sorry, there's more." When I find myself asking "Isn't this thing over yet?" (which happens a lot with Skyrim/Fallout mods because amateur mod makers are, as a group, even less skilled at level/quest design than pros are), that's when it's time to hang it up. I prefer the more sandbox type of game like Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout, not to mention BG1 and 2, to the linear play of BG3.

 

[Wandering_Mania]

50 minutes ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

I'm also worried about the modding part. They'd be pretty dumb to cut out their PC fan base, I mean if it's not on PC legitimately there are... other ways, to make that happen.. FREE ways. 😆 In all seriousness, I don't think they will cut out teir PC fan base, because then they would be losing money either way.

 

I saw a comment under one YouTube video that suggested that it might drop after another TES 6 announcement, tomorrow, which seems believable to me.

Well, today's announcement of announcement tomorrow already has me very wary. With the 'controlled leaks' of screenshots, and talk of a 'shadow drop'; It all just makes me start to think that their going to do something that they know will be universally despised by the players. So to prevent any more damage being done to their already F.U.B.A.R. reputation; Their keeping it all under wraps, until the very last possible second. That way word of mouth will only be spread after they got their initial 'day 1 cash infusion'.

 

The moral of all that being; Don't buy anything day 1. Wait until the reviews of the suc... I mean players, or someone you trust to come out.

[Darkpig]

49 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Well, today's announcement of announcement tomorrow already has me very wary. With the 'controlled leaks' of screenshots, and talk of a 'shadow drop'; It all just makes me start to think that their going to do something that they know will be universally despised by the players. So to prevent any more damage being done to their already F.U.B.A.R. reputation; Their keeping it all under wraps, until the very last possible second. That way word of mouth will only be spread after they got their initial 'day 1 cash infusion'.

 

The moral of all that being; Don't buy anything day 1. Wait until the reviews of the suc... I mean players, or someone you trust to come out.

I would give you a thousand likes if I could. On a totally not unrelated note it kind of breaks my black hole of a heart to see my buddies with ADHD buy gimmicky crap.

[Count Chocula]

1 hour ago, FauxFurry said:

"The Combat in Baldur's Gate 3 be like ..."

That's about the size of it. If you side with the Tieflings in the Grove against Minthara (or whatever) and her Goblins, ugh. You got your party of 4 (assuming you're doing a full party), like half-a-dozen friendly NPCs and then Minthara and, what, about 20 Goblins? Fuckin' A, man, that fight is awful. That definitely made me say to myself a few times "God damn it, when is thing gonna be over?"

[RedHeadAngel]

I'll be very surprised if we don't have another GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition situation on our hands here.

[RedHeadAngel]

3 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Don't buy anything day 1

That's pretty much how I live my life.

[Wandering_Mania]

1 hour ago, RedHeadAngel said:

I'll be very surprised if we don't have another GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition situation on our hands here.

That right there is yet another thing I'm worried about. A "remaster" that is suppose to have better looks, but releases looking worse than the original.

Because 'in engine renders', have become untrustworthy as well.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

No matter what they do, it's a guarantee that it will piss someone off. I'll be honest, I'm not expecting mod support for this game, which will piss me off, a little, however I'm going into things with that expectation. I'm assuming they haven't messed with anything outside of some of the original game's mechanics, which could be a good thing or a bad thing, but at least I know it's going to be a thing. What I'm not expecting is for them to screw with the story in any way or the quests, unless it's adding cut content. Hopefully they aren't going to make the game as difficult as a Soul's game, I definitely don't want that shit either. As far as graphics go, I'm sure anything will be an improvement over the original.

 

Hopefully the negative theories end up coming to nothing. I mean, it's kind of hard to screw up a "remaster", since a lot of the work has already been done... Then again, I have seen those screwed up before.. somehow.

[Vader666]

2 hours ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

since a lot of the work has already been done...

 

Im still kinda baffled they call it a remaster.

Porting game assets from CreationEngine (2006) to UE5 is kinda like if Land Rover would take one of their original Defenders and changes it to be capable of driving around on the surface of Mars...

Literally every single piece of the game has to be changed (at least slightly) just so it works in UE, let alone make it look any good.

On top of that, a lot of things can't be converted at all but have to be remade from scratch...

 

However, we will finally see wether those people complaining about an "age old engine" are right and wether it's detrimental to the games or not.

Will it look better ? Most certainly.

Will it be a better game ? I have my doubts on that...