Devious Eyecandy NPCs

[Taki17]

50 minutes ago, El_Duderino said:

I originally didn't plan to release this mod and tailored it specifically to my own load order. That includes some custom armors

Does this mean an unreleased version exists that you have derived the public version from? If it's not too much of a hassle, would you consider changing these identical outfits up a bit in the public version? Maybe add harnesses or corsets as further outfit variants or things like that, for example.

 

50 minutes ago, El_Duderino said:

the neighbors all comment on me being naked when I stroll through town in my catsuit.

You mean ingame, right...? ....right...?? 😅

 

Oh, and there is a slave called "Tavern Maid" in the Temple of Dibella, but her editorID says "Temple Maid", so I guess that should be her name too?

 

Edited February 13, 2025 by Taki17

[El_Duderino]

11 hours ago, Taki17 said:

Does this mean an unreleased version exists that you have derived the public version from?

Yes. It has almost thirty plugin dependencies, including to obscure LE mods like the 2018 version of Jabr's TES Legendary Cities series which I'm a big fan of, and many custom armors. Actually, xEdit surprised me there that it was even possible to strip all that "ballast" from the mod and remove the masters without breaking it. 

 

Having a "tavern maid" in the temple of Dibella sounds kinda right to me, but that's just my lame excuse so that I won't have to call it a bug.

 

11 hours ago, Taki17 said:

You mean ingame, right...? ....right...?? 😅

 I'm not exhibitionist enough to wear my latex outside.  

[DonQuiWho]

3 hours ago, El_Duderino said:

Yes. It has almost thirty plugin dependencies, including to obscure LE mods like the 2018 version of Jabr's TES Legendary Cities series which I'm a big fan of, and many custom armors. Actually, xEdit surprised me there that it was even possible to strip all that "ballast" from the mod and remove the masters without breaking it. 

 

Having a "tavern maid" in the temple of Dibella sounds kinda right to me, but that's just my lame excuse so that I won't have to call it a bug.

 

 I'm not exhibitionist enough to wear my latex outside.  

 

Big 'Thank You' for the esl versions!

 

 +1 on TES Legendary Cities.  I have a merged version which is a compulsory inclusion in all my games

 

+1 also, on the hope for a bit more variety in the costumes, please, if that's possible.  There's a whole load of really good fun stuff out there in DD 5.2 / NG 0.3.7

 

DQW

 

[devildx]

Any chance of a version without devious devives as requirement? Maybe use ZAZ instead?

[Taki17]

Hello! I'm back with a few more things that caught my eye, again listed in no particular order:

• Some of the slaves are in incorrect factions, or in multiple factions that causes them to say incorrect dialogue:
  • "ARN_WH_PonyTorbjorn"is in the "ARN_F_MaidFaction", but she should be in the "ARN_F_PonyFaction"
  • "ARN_RI_BlackBriarPony"is in the "ARN_F_MaidFaction" and the "ARN_F_PonyFaction", but she should only be in the "ARN_F_PonyFaction"
  • "ARN_WR_MeaderyPony"is in the "ARN_F_MaidFaction" and the "ARN_F_PonyFaction", but she should only be in the "ARN_F_PonyFaction"
  • "ARN_Khajiit_RisaadPony01"is in the "ARN_F_MaidFaction" and the "ARN_F_PonyFaction", but she should only be in the "ARN_F_PonyFaction"
  • "ARN_WH_SlaveOutside"is in the "ARN_F_SlaveFaction" and the "ARN_F_PonyFaction", but she should only be in the "ARN_F_SlaveFaction"
  • "ARN_SS_BlacksmithPony"is in the "ARN_F_SlaveFaction" and the "ARN_F_PonyFaction", but she should only be in the "ARN_F_PonyFaction"
  • "ARN_RI_FarmSPony"is in the "ARN_F_SlaveFaction" and the "ARN_F_PonyFaction", but she should only be in the "ARN_F_PonyFaction"
  • "ARN_WR_NazeemPony"is in the "ARN_F_SlaveFaction" and the "ARN_F_PonyFaction", but she should only be in the "ARN_F_PonyFaction"
  • "ARN_RO_FarmPony"is in the "ARN_F_SlaveFaction" and the "ARN_F_PonyFaction", but she should only be in the "ARN_F_PonyFaction"
  • "ARN_Khajiit_RisaadPony02"is in the "ARN_F_SlaveFaction" and the "ARN_F_PonyFaction", but she should only be in the "ARN_F_PonyFaction"
• The "ARN_WRTownSandboxMulti_06_04" package is unused, and I'm not sure who should this be assigned to?
• Additional places where slaves could be added to and fit in, if you are so inclined:😊
  • Orc strongholds
  • Solitude
    • prominent places in Solitude: Bards College, Blue Palace, Docks, Katla's Farm, Stables
    • the homes of Solitude nobles: Bryling, Erikur, Vittoria Vici
  • small towns: Dragon Bridge, Ivarstead, Morthal
  • mines: Darkwater Crossing, Stonehills, Whistling Mine

Edited February 14, 2025 by Taki17

[Taki17]

If there is anyone else using Dynamic Feminine Female Modesty Animations alongside this mod like me, maybe you'll like this, becasue here's a little something I've whipped up so the slaves will properly (not) cover themselves based on what they are wearing! 😊

NoModesty4Eyecandy.7z

 

Dresses and catsuits count as full cover, chasity belts and harnesses count as bottom cover and chastity bras count as top cover. And by default, ponies never cover themselves and maids and slaves only cover themselves if they are seen naked - you can change that in the DISTR file by (un)commenting the lines as you feel like. Enjoy!

 

Edited February 16, 2025 by Taki17

[El_Duderino]

Hi and thanks very much for the kind feedback!

 

I will do at least one more update with more tweaks and refinements, but it'll probably be a while because maintaining the four parallel versions of the mod has turned into a support nightmare. Who would have thought.   Maybe I'll end up dropping LE support, after all, and cut the work in half. Let's see.

 

On 2/14/2025 at 10:52 PM, Taki17 said:

Some of the slaves are in incorrect factions, or in multiple factions that causes them to say incorrect dialogue:

Oh dear -- that's an unintended side-effect. I used the factions mainly to have finer control who is allowed to use which idle marker. Didn't even consider that this would (of course) also affect the dialogue.

 

On 2/14/2025 at 10:52 PM, Taki17 said:

Additional places where slaves could be added to and fit in, if you are so inclined:😊

I left some of the towns empty on purpose: in Solitude and Dragon Bridge, that follows the "lore" from Ebonitium where the Empire doesn't allow slavery. Some of the smaller places like Ivarstead originally had "visiting" slave NPCs that patrolled between places, but those all got removed because their schedule included locations from the extra dependencies that the mod originally had. And I completely forgot about Morthal and the Orc strongholds.

 

On 2/16/2025 at 3:01 PM, Taki17 said:

If there is anyone else using Dynamic Feminine Female Modesty Animations alongside this mod like me

I wasn't aware of that mod (I visit the Nexus only rarely) -- thanks much for providing the patch!

 

On 2/14/2025 at 3:04 PM, devildx said:

Any chance of a version without devious devives as requirement? Maybe use ZAZ instead?

Sorry, but no. Simply because of personal preference.

[Taki17]

4 hours ago, El_Duderino said:

I left some of the towns empty on purpose: in Solitude and Dragon Bridge, that follows the "lore" from Ebonitium where the Empire doesn't allow slavery.

Oh, I wasn't aware there was lore in this! 

But I gotta admit, it's probably that about this mod that has me this fascinated with it, like none of these slaves have elaborate stories they explicitly tell you, it's just that they are around... to be pretty?... and one can just stop, think or theorize why exactly does Adrianne Avenicci have a girl locked in fully chastity gear, working in her smithy? Like, what might be her story I wonder? I kind of love this because of that aspect. 😊

 

4 hours ago, El_Duderino said:

Maybe I'll end up dropping LE support, after all, and cut the work in half. Let's see.

I wouldn't blame you for that. You could spare yourself a lot of headache and time, plus you could go full-on with DDNG that's got even more goodies, if you are so inclined...

 

Also, a suggestion: consider making the male version a plugin that depends on the regular females only version, that way you don't need to maintain full parity over multiple versions, just have it override the base version's appropriate records when needed?

 

Edited February 17, 2025 by Taki17

[El_Duderino]

On 2/17/2025 at 8:57 PM, Taki17 said:

Oh, I wasn't aware there was lore in this!

To be fair, that lore basically only exists in my head. I guess I shouldn't expect players to go along or share my ideas and add some more NPCs to the currently unpopulated locations. I'll try and do just that.

 

On 2/17/2025 at 8:57 PM, Taki17 said:

consider making the male version a plugin that depends on the regular females only version

Oh, now that's a great idea! I hadn't even thought of that even though I've been working with overrides A LOT over the years to adapt other mods to my personal preferences. Consider it done and thanks much for the wonderful feedback for the mod!

[Nuascura]

@El_Duderino Taki might’ve mentioned the related issue for all I know, but JIC: I found a “Lemkil’s Ponygirl” inside Riverwood Trader. She had her scalp clipping through her hair mesh, and she was all nude - she wasn’t wearing anything at all. 
Editor ID: ARN_RW_LucanMaid

Base ID: FE0CFB61

Ref ID: FE0CFB64

[serph90]

thanks for this mod, actually give me something easy to "normalize" my char roaming the cities as a slave, without having to use heavy scripted mods like cursed loot

[El_Duderino]

21 hours ago, Nuascura said:

Taki might’ve mentioned the related issue for all I know, but JIC: I found a “Lemkil’s Ponygirl” inside Riverwood Trader. She had her scalp clipping through her hair mesh, and she was all nude - she wasn’t wearing anything at all.

Thank you for reporting this. Probably just forgot to change the name when I cloned the NPC. I'll check the outfit entry. The hair issue is strange though, as I'm using only vanilla hair in the mod.

 

20 hours ago, theprof90 said:

thanks for this mod, actually give me something easy to "normalize" my char roaming the cities as a slave, without having to use heavy scripted mods like cursed loot

Thanks. What you say was exactly the reason why I made this mod.

[Nuascura]

On 2/21/2025 at 9:07 PM, El_Duderino said:

Thank you for reporting this. Probably just forgot to change the name when I cloned the NPC. I'll check the outfit entry. The hair issue is strange though, as I'm using only vanilla hair in the mod.

I wasn't thinking it's a hair issue per se. The clipping indicates a facegeom issue. I was thinking more along the lines of its facegen mesh not being exported correctly, or a body weighting issue, or that it was relabeled from male to female without proper adjustments. Something like that.

 

Edited July 8, 2025 by Nuascura
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[El_Duderino]

On 2/21/2025 at 5:55 PM, Nuascura said:

I wasn't thinking it's a hair issue per se.

Thanks for the screenshot. My guess at the moment is that I entirely forgot to update that NPC's face settings after changing her race. I'll redo her face in the CK and that should take of it, whatever the exact reason might be.

[Taki17]

Hello! While checking for something unrelated to this mod, I noticed these entries in my logs:

[02/23/2025 - 09:26:44PM] Cannot open store for class "AR_HobbleSkirtEffectScriptNPC", missing file?
[02/23/2025 - 09:26:44PM] Cannot open store for class "AR_HobbleSkirtEffectScriptNPCnoDD", missing file?

They reference the scripts attached to the magic effects on the hobble dresses on this mod, however there is no script present in the archive for them. I don't know if they are leftovers or the scripts themselves are missing?

[El_Duderino]

7 hours ago, Taki17 said:

there is no script present in the archive for them

Oh, good detective work! Thanks. Those scripts are from the Ebonitium mod. I did indeed forget to include them in the package of this mod.

Edited February 24, 2025 by El_Duderino

[Taki17]

I've noticed that some of the newly added bedrolls for the slaves have some clipping or are in suboptimal places, so instead of listing all of them, I just adjusted them the best I could, here they are in this plugin, you can merge them as you see fit:

 

DeviousEyecandyPlacementPatch.esp

 

Every change is just a minor placement or rotation adjustment, except for these:

• Dawnstar Jarl's house: moved it out of the way
• Riverwood Gerdur's house: moved it out of the way
• Markarth inn: moved it out the level geometry
• Markarth treasury house: moved it out of the way
• Snow-Shod farm: moved them out of the way
• Windhelm: moved it from the alley to under the nearest house's roof
• Windhelm Candlehearth hall: moved it to the kitchen
• Winterhold archmage's: moved it inside the archmage's room
  • alternatively, you could make her sleep with the archmage in his bed, that'd be fitting! ☺️
• Winterhold college: moved to apprentice quarters from the arcanaeum library (also changed in their AI packages)

And two unrelated things I've noticed as well:

• Thonar's and Thongvar's slaves don't have AI packages, they just stand around. Should they maybe follow their masters?
• Thongvar is a misspelling, the character is called Thongvor

[DTESSurvivor]

My only real complaint is not that they don't have stories/quests just yet, it is that they don't recognize your character being in bondage as well.  "As a fellow slave you should know we're not allowed to talk."  

[El_Duderino]

Thanks for the comments and feedback!

 

@Taki17 Thanks so much for the "deep dive" into the mod and the new bug report! I'll merge those revised bedroll positions when I finally get around to work on the mod again -- I must confess that I've been kicking this down the road for the past few weeks.

 

@DTESSurvivor To be honest, I can't think of a simple way to check if the player is enslaved or not while still keeping this mod as simple as possible.

[Taki17]

2 hours ago, El_Duderino said:

a simple way to check if the player is enslaved or not while still keeping this mod as simple as possible

Maybe not for "enslaved", but you can do a simple enough check for "restrained" instead:

• either check if the player has the "zad_Lockable" keyword on her - this is the quickest and simplest, and just means the player is wearing some sort of restraint (may not be immersive because the slaves will "see through" the player's clothes to notice her chastity belt or things like that)
• or check if the player has the "zad_deviousHeavyBondage" or the "zad_deviousGag" keywords on her - wearing arm bindings or a gag pretty much guarantees that the player is visibly restrained, so if the slaves see that, you can assume they'd think the player is one of them (this ofc will trigger for less kind of restraints)

Edited March 5, 2025 by Taki17

[El_Duderino]

On 3/5/2025 at 10:11 AM, Taki17 said:

Maybe not for "enslaved", but you can do a simple enough check for "restrained" instead:

Thanks, I had thought of that but hesitate because of the false positives this is likely to create for players that aren't actually enslaved. Maybe making the dialogue even more generic could work better (something like "sorry, I'm not allowed to speak to strangers")? In any case, addressing this is definitely on my list.

[serph90]

a little issue: sadly sometimes the npcs of this mod get chosen as "targets" from radiant quests ("revover stable slave's ring from x cave"), would be good to at least be able to activate dialogue in order to complete them

[El_Duderino]

4 hours ago, theprof90 said:

sadly sometimes the npcs of this mod get chosen as "targets" from radiant quests

Thanks much for reporting this!

 

I'll re-enable the generic dialogue as you recommended and I'll remove them from the TownX faction to hopefully reduce how often they can get chosen as radiant targets or quest givers.

[El_Duderino]

New Update!

 

Sadly, I could only update the ESP version of the mod. I couldn't get the .esl version to work. Any time I rebuilt it as .esl it caused the game to crash on startup. Not sure where I went wrong as it worked with the previous version. If you can't afford an .esp slot, I'm afraid you're stuck with the previous .esl version for now. I've left it in the downloads section.

 

Changes in the new .esp version (1.2):

• Added door keys to slaves that live/work in locked private areas.
• Added CR04 and CR08Exlusion factions to all slaves to prevent them getting picked up by the Companions radiant quests.
• Removed "Town" factions from slaves that had them, to hopefully reduce the frequency they get picked as radiant quest targets.
• Made the slaves available for normal dialogue.
• Added all slaves to the zadDisableDialogue faction.
• Fixed the "follow" packages so that the slaves now actually follow their owners (Thonar, Khajiit caravans, etc.)

[Nuascura]

@El_Duderino TBH I recommend either committing to ESPFE and building atop it or only releasing an ESP version. It’ll help keep consistency across future updates.

 

Compressing after record deletions aren’t safe since records may take different record spaces when compressed if their environment changes.

 

Edit: btw, the Ambience plugin bundled with my Licenses mod, which adds ambient dialogue to NPCs, also adds dialogue to your NPCs due to my flexible conditions. I wonder what's the best way to exclude them without making DD a hard dep.

Edited March 26, 2025 by Nuascura