Krazyone Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 9 hours ago, riveth said: 1) this was something I disagreed With AwesomeSPAS about. He prefered less hardcore approach, thus slider never reach 100% As for worthless loot, this is kind of odd mod for me. I prefer BRAWL a lot more. You can set it to hardcore mode, when most item you find is broken and doesnt holds much value. Also with this mod present it is quite hard to get back your items stolen via violate, fast. Like there is really slim chance to find useable weapon or armor immediatelly after violate scenario, leaving you running to settlements or cities lookin for help. Another thing is TSEX or SH protitution, using those makes you earn 50 caps in no time. Anyway who would sell you all your item for 50 caps? 2) I'm not forcing player to use any specyfic outfit. Collar just restricts using covering ones. I wanted to make scenario where you work as house maid for some upper stacks denizens, maybe then randomizer like this could be usefull, but still this is a far cry. 1. I've tried mods that have broken, or breakable items. Fallout 4 has troubles with those, drop the items and they Reset, some of them have trouble with items when removing them from inventories with take all. Worthless Loot... it stops you selling Water, and making unlimited easy Caps. Along with other items, you have to earn your Caps. Doing Quests, finding them, and selling Melons at Abernathy Farm, or Tools at Vault 81. I love that mod... Brawl... Dropping items in Fallout 4 resets them, I've used Brawl in the past, a long, long time ago. It's still in my Mod Organizer 2 mods, just not enabled. But I can't remember if it has the dropping resets the items problem. DD Armorbench Unlocker... I use this to open Vanilla Devious Devices, doesn't work with Kziitd stuff. I've got it set to charge at 5 Caps at non-settlement Workbenches, and find it hard getting 5 Caps when locked in Devious Devices, in the middle of nowhere. 50 Caps with Worthless Loot, and no Whoring mods installed, is tough to get. 5 Caps is tough, with my set-up... 100% Sliders... I always like letting people play any way they want, setting the Defaults to any number you like. But it's your mod, and I've already altered my version. 2. SAKR Clothing... it was just an idea... I love the SAKR mod, just recently made 490 plus Tags for the clothing on my currently unpublished Vtaw9 addon Treasure Hunt mod. Some of my favourite clothing items score a 99 on the Slut-ometer rating, aka skimpy rating. The transparent plastic swimsuit, was a 99 skimpy rating. But looks great... Anyway... great mod, thanks for the reply.
rypley Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 On 6/29/2025 at 9:09 AM, riveth said: This is a great idea, but idk how to make this happen. Aaf handling is AwesomeSPAS part, I will pass this idea to him. JB. in his excellent Nuka Ride mods and more specifically in the Commonwealth Slavers mod, uses whip animations and AAf animations on TortureDevices or CRX furniture. Perhaps he can help you if you encounter difficulties. 1
riveth Posted June 30, 2025 Author Posted June 30, 2025 (edited) 5 hours ago, Neppy said: So Scurvy gave me 8 days to get 7500 caps but the problem I have is that this asshole keeps showing up and following me to ask if I have the caps or ask why my collar is off even though I have it on, then he takes half the caps I have on me. It this supposed to happen or is it a bug? Also when exactly is the public whore scenario supposed to happen? Scurvy keeps giving me 10 more days (lol) while increasing the caps owed. Is there a limit cap? If Scurvy is following you, this means mod doesn't recognize collar you wear as debtor collar. Try it updating or reinstaling real handcuffs. Normally when player manage to take of this collar it will automatically trigger Scurvy visit. scurvy will visit you 3 times before taking you to jail. Edited June 30, 2025 by riveth 1
rypley Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 I just encountered a small problem: Scurvy increases the debt and I have a window that pops up telling me that he is upgrading my collar. But when he does that the collar disappears from my neck and from the inventory. Of course I am assaulted by Scurvy who tells me that I don't have the collar and this in a loop.
riveth Posted June 30, 2025 Author Posted June 30, 2025 31 minutes ago, rypley said: I just encountered a small problem: Scurvy increases the debt and I have a window that pops up telling me that he is upgrading my collar. But when he does that the collar disappears from my neck and from the inventory. Of course I am assaulted by Scurvy who tells me that I don't have the collar and this in a loop. Have you had problems with equiping first collar?
Neppy Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, rypley said: I just encountered a small problem: Scurvy increases the debt and I have a window that pops up telling me that he is upgrading my collar. But when he does that the collar disappears from my neck and from the inventory. Of course I am assaulted by Scurvy who tells me that I don't have the collar and this in a loop. Yeah this bug happened to me as well, after talking to Scurvy the collar disappeared from my character and the inventory and I had to add it again via console commands. This is probably due to me having the old version of RealHandcuffs. I just updated it so it'll probably work now. Edited June 30, 2025 by Neppy 1
Poodledee Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 Collar never seems to apply for me and I just get a loop 1
riveth Posted July 2, 2025 Author Posted July 2, 2025 12 minutes ago, Poodledee said: Collar never seems to apply for me and I just get a loop try updating real handcuffs
Poodledee Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, riveth said: try updating real handcuffs It is the most up to date version. If it helps, I get a message indicating that my character has a collar on, which is not true, but it seems to indicate even if I did have one on it can be worked around but immediately after, scurvy gets upset about not having a collar. Edited July 2, 2025 by Poodledee
riveth Posted July 3, 2025 Author Posted July 3, 2025 9 hours ago, Poodledee said: It is the most up to date version. If it helps, I get a message indicating that my character has a collar on, which is not true, but it seems to indicate even if I did have one on it can be worked around but immediately after, scurvy gets upset about not having a collar. Do you have raider pet mod installed with or without fix 5 and 6?
Poodledee Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) 12 hours ago, riveth said: Do you have raider pet mod installed with or without fix 5 and 6? I have raider pet but no fixes. Did not know there was any updates for the mod. Will look into this when I can. Installed both fixes and still get the loop. Edited July 3, 2025 by Poodledee
Neppy Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 So I've spent a few days getting into debt with Scurvy and managed to get the 9750 caps he wanted, I went to him to pay but he sent me to Mr. Ivan. The problem is that Mr. Ivan won't accept my caps and all he has is his training dialogue. Is that a bug or am I supposed to wait for the 10 day timer to run out instead? I'm confused. I just want to see that public whore scenario and I just can't seem to be able to get it lol
riveth Posted July 3, 2025 Author Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Neppy said: So I've spent a few days getting into debt with Scurvy and managed to get the 9750 caps he wanted, I went to him to pay but he sent me to Mr. Ivan. The problem is that Mr. Ivan won't accept my caps and all he has is his training dialogue. Is that a bug or am I supposed to wait for the 10 day timer to run out instead? I'm confused. I just want to see that public whore scenario and I just can't seem to be able to get it lol Yes, it is a bug. But if you pay up your loan, you won't get to public whore scenario. I told you to overdue it. You can sleep those 10 days. Btw I can't pin pont this bug. I need more info: - which loan you have - what loan quest stage you are curently on - what ecacly ivans say to you when you start conversation He should say: Oh... It's you. Judging by the collar you already met Scurvy... That's unfortunate... I believe you have my money, right? then you should have options: 1 yes, sorry fo delay - this will take you to stage to pay up 2 no 3 need job 4 wtf edit: I think it is fixed now. Can You test it for me? https://mega.nz/folder/WCZGhZSA#VKGUm6hN0dkYym4ehXmA1A pervert191 - install this and disable previous one Edited July 3, 2025 by riveth
Poodledee Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 13 hours ago, riveth said: Do you have raider pet mod installed with or without fix 5 and 6? Just for clarification I presume the fixes are required?
Neppy Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) 19 minutes ago, riveth said: Yes, it is a bug. But if you pay up your loan, you won't get to public whore scenario. I told you to overdue it. You can sleep those 10 days. Btw I can't pin pont this bug. I need more info: - which loan you have - what loan quest stage you are curently on - what ecacly ivans say to you when you start conversation He should say: Oh... It's you. Judging by the collar you already met Scurvy... That's unfortunate... I believe you have my money, right? then you should have options: 1 yes, sorry fo delay - this will take you to stage to pay up 2 no 3 need job 4 wtf Yeah it's exactly as you described but when I select the pay option he reverts back to the training dialogue. I'm playing right now and apparently Scurvy just increased the money owed to 11000 which I can't pay. I think the scenario is working as intended, Scurvy just threw me in jail and I failed the Mortgage loan quest. I just can't actually pay back the money owed to Mr. Ivan lol Edited July 3, 2025 by Neppy
riveth Posted July 3, 2025 Author Posted July 3, 2025 12 minutes ago, Poodledee said: Just for clarification I presume the fixes are required? Well I'm not sure. I have suspiccion that raider pet is messing up my collar somehow. There is a bug in raider pet with beeping collar, even if you dont have any collar. Looks like game thinks you are still wearing slave collar . To test this, you should try fresh game without raider pet. You could do this very quicly using save just before leaving v111. Important thing is to create seperate pprofile in mod organizer and dont transfer any saves from current profile.
riveth Posted July 3, 2025 Author Posted July 3, 2025 15 minutes ago, Neppy said: Yeah it's exactly as you described but when I select the pay option he reverts back to the training dialogue. I'm playing right now and apparently Scurvy just increased the money owed to 11000 which I can't pay. I think the scenario is working as intended, Scurvy just threw me in jail and I failed the Mortgage loan quest. I just can't actually pay back the money owed to Mr. Ivan lol Yes, plot goes like this. Ivan sold your loan to scurvy when it was overdue. Scurvy says to pay up at Ivans only as convenience for him. Those 2 guys works with each other closely, but Ivan is already clear and your debt is Scurvy's worry now. When you still cant make it, you are put in jail. Scurvy gets some recompensation from Mayor and your confiscated items. Now you wait in jail for Mayor verdict what to do with you, how can you repay damage done.
Neppy Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 5 minutes ago, riveth said: Yes, plot goes like this. Ivan sold your loan to scurvy when it was overdue. Scurvy says to pay up at Ivans only as convenience for him. Those 2 guys works with each other closely, but Ivan is already clear and your debt is Scurvy's worry now. When you still cant make it, you are put in jail. Scurvy gets some recompensation from Mayor and your confiscated items. Now you wait in jail for Mayor verdict what to do with you, how can you repay damage done. So now I just have to whore to get 20,000 instead of the loan I owed? Hmm, I guess I was expecting a different scenario (like one that ends with the bad ending like in the screenshots). Anyways thanks for all of your help, I really enjoyed your mod.
riveth Posted July 3, 2025 Author Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Neppy said: So now I just have to whore to get 20,000 instead of the loan I owed? Hmm, I guess I was expecting a different scenario (like one that ends with the bad ending like in the screenshots). Anyways thanks for all of your help, I really enjoyed your mod. there is other way to get out of DC without paying... So it's not over yet. Also I want to add new quest in this section in future, possibly. And you finished jail scenario so quickly? There are some hidden gems there, like calling guard too many times in row. Edited July 3, 2025 by riveth 1
Poodledee Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 20 minutes ago, riveth said: Well I'm not sure. I have suspiccion that raider pet is messing up my collar somehow. There is a bug in raider pet with beeping collar, even if you dont have any collar. Looks like game thinks you are still wearing slave collar . To test this, you should try fresh game without raider pet. You could do this very quicly using save just before leaving v111. Important thing is to create seperate pprofile in mod organizer and dont transfer any saves from current profile. Didn't seem to work unless leaving my F4SE OVR files messed it up.
Neppy Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) 15 minutes ago, riveth said: there is other way to get out of DC without paying... So it's not over yet. Also I want to add new quest in this section in future, possibly. And you finished jail scenario so quickly? There are some hidden gems there, like calling guard too many times in row. I kinda cheesed the jail scenario to speed things up. I can avoid doing the "chores" by simply ignoring the inmates and just do what Tom wants to use the sleeping bag. Doesn't calling the guards too much just make you end up in the interrogation room? I think I've tried that before unless there's a different scenario you had prepared in mind. Also when I got out of jail the guards didn't give me a collar so I had to add it via console commands. I think it might be a bug. I'll keep playing around with the mod I just need a break from all of the whoring I've done the past few days to try to pay off the debt just to end up owing the mayor 20,000 caps and have to do it all over again haha I know about being able to escape somehow but I haven't figured out how just yet Edited July 3, 2025 by Neppy
riveth Posted July 3, 2025 Author Posted July 3, 2025 9 minutes ago, Neppy said: I kinda cheesed the jail scenario to speed things up. I can avoid doing the "chores" by simply ignoring the inmates and just do what Tom wants to use the sleeping bag. Doesn't calling the guards too much just make you end up in the interrogation room? I think I've tried that before unless there's a different scenario you had prepared in mind. Also when I got out of jail the guards didn't give me a collar so I had to add it via console commands. I think it might be a bug. I'll keep playing around with the mod I just need a break from all of the whoring I've done the past few days to try to pay off the debt just to end up owing the mayor 20,000 caps and have to do it all over again haha I know about being able to escape somehow but I haven't figured out how just yet Working collar is crucial on escaping story. Also have You seen my edit about fixed dialogue with Ivan ?
Neppy Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 14 minutes ago, riveth said: Working collar is crucial on escaping story. Also have You seen my edit about fixed dialogue with Ivan ? Sure I'll test it and let you know. 1
Poodledee Posted July 4, 2025 Posted July 4, 2025 2 hours ago, riveth said: Well I'm not sure. I have suspiccion that raider pet is messing up my collar somehow. There is a bug in raider pet with beeping collar, even if you dont have any collar. Looks like game thinks you are still wearing slave collar . To test this, you should try fresh game without raider pet. You could do this very quicly using save just before leaving v111. Important thing is to create seperate pprofile in mod organizer and dont transfer any saves from current profile. 1 hour ago, Poodledee said: Didn't seem to work unless leaving my F4SE OVR files messed it up. Unfortunately even without the OVR files it still does not work.
Olmech Posted July 4, 2025 Posted July 4, 2025 (edited) I had downloaded this mod a good while ago to try and found it to be very promising but...also irritating. I have been keeping up with its progress and decided to give it another go because of the new features. Here is what I found: 1. Still needs to be an MCM option to do away with the extras in the dungeons. Never fails...a scene will start on a matress and thats precisely where one of the extras will decide to take a nap. Its that way for much of the furniture. Some like me do not use those extras at all. The extras are a pain in the ass. I usually disable them in console as quickly as I can. Its the ones in the farm dungeons that are very irritating. Never really had issues with the Diamond City extras. Also if you get taken to a farm dungeon by a hostile faction, they will be at odds with the extras. Some mods like Assimilation can even put the player in a hostile faction. Love that hostile factions can end up taking you there and makes more sense having them drug you than Preston Garvey or Blake Abernathy. Diamond City: 1. Everything was straightforward at first. Getting loan from Ivan worked. Rented safe. Couple of days later, everything I put in safe disappeared. All of it. Better just take loan and buy Home Plate for safe storage. 2. The training Ivan does is clunky. By the time the SS gets to DC, odds are she is already finely trained in the idea her body is desireable and can be a cash register. She was married, had a baby and is no novice. Would rather Ivan simply be willing to extend grace or for services rendered by SS or just diabolically tell her to hit the streets. 3. Everything about Scurvy is broken for me. Tries to collar me but then says I am already wearing a collar which I am not. Gets stuck in endless loop. A search through console revealed something called a debtors collar. Spawned one and put it on allowing scene to progress but had to be done for each scenario involving collar as he always failed to recognize it. The scene where you are hauled away to the underground area by Scurvy never let me out. Have mod that allows me to sleep on couches, so I passed the 8 days there. He hauled me to jail after that. Diamond City Jail: 1. Nothing here seems to work right. Aside from Tom, the other prisoners are more like babies at daycare. Hard to take them seriously. Pressed call box to go to shower. Been stuck there for a whole day now unable to get by invisible barrier having to service Lumpy over and over and over. And thats where things currently stand. Stuck in bathroom unable to get out. Guard that took me there nowhere to be found. I created a new character to try the mod. I have latest edition of Real Handcuffs. I do not use Raider Pet. Gonna delete this save and unload mod till these issues are resolved. Mod is very promising. One of the features I like most about it is the forced drug use leading to nasty dependencies with the added associate mods. Probably would have been a nice stand alone mod that gets activated on any non consensual scene. Good luck with it. I do hope you continue to work on it. Edited July 4, 2025 by Olmech
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