SMP Head HPH or UBE

[blackoperations]

Thanks for this, but the presets made with the earlier head all crash now.  

[Predator-RJ]

1 hour ago, blackoperations said:

Thanks for this, but the presets made with the earlier head all crash now.  

Hi, thanks! for me this dont happen at all, but was in the description, and still in the description that is not advised to save, or export presets with this mod enabled.

[blackoperations]

Got it.  I can deal with that.  However, how do I reverse it when I want to use the original presets?  Now, whenever I start a game without the mod (even when I remove the generated femalehead.nif from my generated folders) and select a preset I've built, it crashes the game when I select high poly head in racemenu.  From what I see from the crash log, the high poly head pipeline is corrupted.  

"The "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION" at SkyrimSE.exe+03D7E45 consistently points to the facegen rendering system"

[Predator-RJ]

1 hour ago, blackoperations said:

Got it.  I can deal with that.  However, how do I reverse it when I want to use the original presets?  Now, whenever I start a game without the mod (even when I remove the generated femalehead.nif from my generated folders) and select a preset I've built, it crashes the game when I select high poly head in racemenu.  From what I see from the crash log, the high poly head pipeline is corrupted.  

"The "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION" at SkyrimSE.exe+03D7E45 consistently points to the facegen rendering system"

Hi, well you saying that even whithout the mod the game is crashing, then it is not the mod...now if you Build the head with outdated bodyslide and thus created a .tri file where it should not have been created, find where the virtual folder for this mod is, and delet the tri file, if not the build problem, i dont know sir, the heads are identical, the only diference is the aditional bones for smp, that from my testing more then a year (yes i used the head with smp for a long time before posting, and then after it was private mod on my server), and others, it is not a problem, saving and exporting the head, and loading a preset saved whith the mod, but maybe you are the first one, skyrim is complicated...

 

edit: the outfit studio and body slide, build with outdated version problem is in the description.

Edited April 2, 2025 by Predator-RJ

[blackoperations]

Thanks.  I found the problem.  It was the waifu expressions .tri I was using.   

[Predator-RJ]

2 hours ago, blackoperations said:

Thanks.  I found the problem.  It was the waifu expressions .tri I was using.   

I use this mod too, with no problems...

[sutline908]

Installed last version, but sliders do not appear. Tried NG but no.

[ChitoPC]

Absolutely amazing mod, core mod for every nsfw playthrough, literally perfect, just one question:

 

if i want to move the collision of the upper lips parts higher or make them react less, what changes do i have to make? since penis collision box is big and id rather edit the lips collisions instead of the penis ones,

 

Thanks in advance! also would like to severly reduce the bounce and physics while just walking and moving around.

also i have sexlab util plus wich equips tongues when doing ahegao, and the tongues are broken right now, my guess is that they are colliding with something? is there a way to have the tongues not collide with anything?

 

Again, absolutely staple mod, keep up the amazing work!

Edited April 3, 2025 by ChitoPC

[Predator-RJ]

6 hours ago, sutline908 said:

Installed last version, but sliders do not appear. Tried NG but no.

Hi, unfortunateluly MO2 and vortex seems to be disabling the ESP, (the ESP not the MOD), and the esp is needed, so enable the esp, and the sliders will apper.

[Predator-RJ]

2 hours ago, ChitoPC said:

Absolutely amazing mod, core mod for every nsfw playthrough, literally perfect, just one question:

 

if i want to move the collision of the upper lips parts higher or make them react less, what changes do i have to make? since penis collision box is big and id rather edit the lips collisions instead of the penis ones,

 

Thanks in advance! also would like to severly reduce the bounce and physics while just walking and moving around.

also i have sexlab util plus wich equips tongues when doing ahegao, and the tongues are broken right now, my guess is that they are colliding with something? is there a way to have the tongues not collide with anything?

 

Again, absolutely staple mod, keep up the amazing work!

Hi thanks!

 

1- Collision, there is no custom collision the actual head is the  collision, and is alredy with 0.01 margin, lowest possible, so you will need to edit the penis collision XML, not the mesh, just lowe the margin, usually people put high margins because of bad made weights, and this mod is fine tuned dont need the high values, so 0.1 or lower

 

2- you can increase the innertia values in all bones, or reduce the linera and angular values ( this is a balance thing, remove too much will collide worse)

 

3- Yes the tongues have a pretty bad XML, you can set the tongue collision to private, and i may upload my fix to them (remade the xml)

[ChitoPC]

20 minutes ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi thanks!

 

1- Collision, there is no custom collision the actual head is the  collision, and is alredy with 0.01 margin, lowest possible, so you will need to edit the penis collision XML, not the mesh, just lowe the margin, usually people put high margins because of bad made weights, and this mod is fine tuned dont need the high values, so 0.1 or lower

 

2- you can increase the innertia values in all bones, or reduce the linera and angular values ( this is a balance thing, remove too much will collide worse)

 

3- Yes the tongues have a pretty bad XML, you can set the tongue collision to private, and i may upload my fix to them (remade the xml)

Thanks a lot for the response.

 

1.- i tinkered with the penis XML and left it on a really good spot, thanks for the advice

 

2.- so increasing inertia means less jiggly face then? ill try it out

 

3.- i thought the same thing, just dont know wich tongue is it or how to private it or where, i know the tongues with problem are from sexlab utils plus but cant pinpoint where the mod gets the tongues from, since if i manually try the hdt tongues that come from baka fill_her_up they dont have any issues at all and behave nicely.

 

Again, thanks for the mod and the help, ive been in the skyrim nsfw modding scene for 8 years or so and bjs were always a main weakpoint that looked really off, and this mod not only fixes them but its literally perfect, fixes all the bj necessities the nsfw modding for skytim always needed.

 

Truly genius work my friend.

 

[sutline908]

10 hours ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, unfortunateluly MO2 and vortex seems to be disabling the ESP, (the ESP not the MOD), and the esp is needed, so enable the esp, and the sliders will apper.

Hi, how can i enable the esp without MO? 

Edited April 4, 2025 by sutline908

[Doom.lord16]

does this require you to use the 'botox bimbo' stuff? Or does it work on normal mouths too?

[OkayBroSk]

will there be a patch for npc to use it ?
i know I can edit follower and all, but i'm just an idiot for editing file and thing like that. And i'm afraid of messing with the game/mod file XD
obviously if it's impossible or just too time-consuming well too bad for me

 

thanks for reading.

[ChitoPC]

3 hours ago, Doom.lord16 said:

does this require you to use the 'botox bimbo' stuff? Or does it work on normal mouths too?

It doesn't at all, you can just use it normally, I do recommend changing open mouth phoneme in sexlab tho.

[Fraying9981]

On 1/8/2025 at 5:41 PM, judge007 said:

@Predator-RJ, @satanfist, @The Dragonwhore, @Iroha

 

Using all advice from the above, I have now got this mod to work as perfect as I can get.

Thanks to all of the above, I don't have to manually reset SMP at all.

Lip quiver/distortion is gone, and the two people who thought of using SexLab Triggers for the SMP reset are geniuses {genii?}

 

One key point that needs to be stressed more is that in character creation in RaceMenu, when you go the Sculpt tab and import the presets head .nif,

you are effectively undoing all of Predator-RJ's work.

 

Then you can import the preset head and still let this mod work.

 

How I fixed it was to use NifSkope to add the NiStringExtraData txt entry from Predator-RJs head to the High Poly Head from the preset file.

 

The patches installed are:

[Predator] HG Head Only Collisions Patch

TRX SMP Replacer  (makes sure futa addons have collision)

TNG_Himbo_SMP_XMLs

 

As for wind and face distortion issues, I followed Iroha's instructions, they work great!

 

My previous post works, but requires three entries in SexLab Triggers.

 

I combined the three with advice from Predator-RJ in the attached file. It works as well as the previous instructions.

Use whichever works for you.

 

When it doesn't work, simply use SexLab Tools mod to back up to Stage 1 in the animation, that provides the SMP reset.

 

Now my gal Ciri is performing, hmm well  . . . enthusiastically!

 

Again thanks to the above mentioned people.

 

 

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hi, may i ask where you need to put the json file so that it works?

[Predator-RJ]

16 hours ago, sutline908 said:

Hi, how can i enable the esp without MO? 

in MO2 From what i remember there is a plugins tab, you go there, and check the plugin to be enabled.

[Predator-RJ]

15 hours ago, Doom.lord16 said:

does this require you to use the 'botox bimbo' stuff? Or does it work on normal mouths too?

Hi, mod only requires HP head, and working SMP, as well as other mods with SMP collisions (dicks for humand and or creatures), it will only work on the player character.

[Predator-RJ]

15 hours ago, OkayBroSk said:

will there be a patch for npc to use it ?
i know I can edit follower and all, but i'm just an idiot for editing file and thing like that. And i'm afraid of messing with the game/mod file XD
obviously if it's impossible or just too time-consuming well too bad for me

 

thanks for reading.

Hi, NPCs have theyr won heads, as well as the followers, so you need to edit the ones you want manually, there is no "patch" since it is a one by one situation.

[Predator-RJ]

8 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

hi, may i ask where you need to put the json file so that it works?

Hi -Skyrim Special Edition\Data\SKSE\Plugins\sl_triggers\commands (HERE)

[Fraying9981]

6 hours ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi -Skyrim Special Edition\Data\SKSE\Plugins\sl_triggers\commands (HERE)

 

thank you, the trigger works to open the mouth, it actually solved mouth not opening issues I had before.

 

this mod's effect don't apply in my game yet though, there is no lip animation & lip effects. I have put open mouth to 100% but it's not really super wide.

I think it's with my configuration, I might be missing things like collision but I'm a beginner at this.

 

Would you have an idea of what prevents the mod from working?

Here are my facial animation related mods:

Faster HDT-SMP

OAR

Conditional Expressions Extended

high poly head 1.4

better blowjobSE

SC Cubemap

expressive facegen morph

cbpc physics with collision

expressive facial animation - female edition

TNG

this mod's TNG SMP xml (i dont use HIMBO)

[Predator] HP Head SMP Mouth and Throat

 

Thanks in advance for your tips if you have any! Really want to make this work

 

 

[Predator-RJ]

15 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

thank you, the trigger works to open the mouth, it actually solved mouth not opening issues I had before.

 

this mod's effect don't apply in my game yet though, there is no lip animation & lip effects. I have put open mouth to 100% but it's not really super wide.

I think it's with my configuration, I might be missing things like collision but I'm a beginner at this.

 

Would you have an idea of what prevents the mod from working?

Here are my facial animation related mods:

Faster HDT-SMP

OAR

Conditional Expressions Extended

high poly head 1.4

better blowjobSE

SC Cubemap

expressive facegen morph

cbpc physics with collision

expressive facial animation - female edition

TNG

this mod's TNG SMP xml (i dont use HIMBO)

[Predator] HP Head SMP Mouth and Throat

 

Thanks in advance for your tips if you have any! Really want to make this work

 

 

Hi, if the sltriggers script "resolved" issues in your game then = your sexlab or other framework has broken scripts, that where not opening the mouth, most people just remade the whole game to solve properly, now about the head not having SMP, ( there is no animation, just SMP), install the mod again and let it replece anything asked, and set the corrrect priority, test, if still not having the smp, maybe it is FSMP confg about wigs with hair, disable it, is still not having SMP, go in to Race menu, and change the face part slider to default head again, save, reaload then change to HP head again, save the preset, export the sculpt, save the game, and realod preset and sculpt. if all this not solve, your game is broken.

[ChitoPC]

On 4/3/2025 at 8:35 PM, ChitoPC said:

Thanks a lot for the response.

 

1.- i tinkered with the penis XML and left it on a really good spot, thanks for the advice

 

2.- so increasing inertia means less jiggly face then? ill try it out

 

3.- i thought the same thing, just dont know wich tongue is it or how to private it or where, i know the tongues with problem are from sexlab utils plus but cant pinpoint where the mod gets the tongues from, since if i manually try the hdt tongues that come from baka fill_her_up they dont have any issues at all and behave nicely.

 

Again, thanks for the mod and the help, ive been in the skyrim nsfw modding scene for 8 years or so and bjs were always a main weakpoint that looked really off, and this mod not only fixes them but its literally perfect, fixes all the bj necessities the nsfw modding for skytim always needed.

 

Truly genius work my friend.

 

If someone finds a way to remove collisions from the tongues that sexlab utils plus uses, do let me know, there must be a way to ignore tongues but don't know how.

 

Kinda of a bummer that the tongues get broken when doing ahegao expressions but I'll keep tinkering see if I can find an alias or something to ignore the tongues.

 

Thanks in advance if someone does find a solution tho !

[Predator-RJ]

7 minutes ago, ChitoPC said:

If someone finds a way to remove collisions from the tongues that sexlab utils plus uses, do let me know, there must be a way to ignore tongues but don't know how.

 

Kinda of a bummer that the tongues get broken when doing ahegao expressions but I'll keep tinkering see if I can find an alias or something to ignore the tongues.

 

Thanks in advance if someone does find a solution tho !

Hey, but i did told you, is the XML that is in the same folder as the tongues, set the tongue shape to private, or remove it.

[Fraying9981]

6 hours ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, if the sltriggers script "resolved" issues in your game then = your sexlab or other framework has broken scripts, that where not opening the mouth, most people just remade the whole game to solve properly, now about the head not having SMP, ( there is no animation, just SMP), install the mod again and let it replece anything asked, and set the corrrect priority, test, if still not having the smp, maybe it is FSMP confg about wigs with hair, disable it, is still not having SMP, go in to Race menu, and change the face part slider to default head again, save, reaload then change to HP head again, save the preset, export the sculpt, save the game, and realod preset and sculpt. if all this not solve, your game is broken.

 

 

thank you so much, I believe it works now. wow this is some crazy high tech stuff!!!! 

 

what did it for me - really beginner stuff, I know, but posting it here for beginners like me:
1. Sexlab aligning actors hotkeys: I never used them before lmao. Now my animations are aligned and collisions work

2. loading the head as high poly in racemenu: i had installed HPH on an existing save with a non HPH face. so it was a default head