SMP Head HPH or UBE

[Predator-RJ]

On 12/22/2024 at 3:13 AM, satanfist said:

Maybe I'm missing something. I get the lip collison, but I've yet to see the throat collison (with either method), as illustrated in many posts here? Just penetration through the back of the head.

Throat depends 99% on the size, and animations, some autors just "scale the penis" down inside the head so it wont clip out... problem is then this anim will do nothing in the throat, only anims that the autor actually animated the whole penis to bend, and pass near the throat will work, test with a chaurus.....   now im still cant get your script to work too XD

Edited December 23, 2024 by Predator-RJ

[Tikos_pony]

Can you please post the video to the cloud? There are problems with Twitter access. And in general, the site is not for convenient video viewing.

edit: When downloading the file, I found an Mp4 file. Is this the same video as on Twitter?

Edited December 24, 2024 by Tikos_pony

[Predator-RJ]

4 hours ago, Tikos_pony said:

Can you please post the video to the cloud? There are problems with Twitter access. And in general, the site is not for convenient video viewing.

edit: When downloading the file, I found an Mp4 file. Is this the same video as on Twitter?

Hello, first of all, the video on twitter is the original compilation of the videos that the gifs are based on, as I described on the page, the video next to the mod, on the download page, again as described on the mod page, is a video to help users on how to transfer the SMP to other HP heads that do not have the SMP, such as NPCs or custom followers.

[johnhamm]

Does this work on NPCs if they have HPH?

[alain31]

Hello,

I just tried this mod thinking i would have to switch everything to full smp but it works very well with my 3ba full cbpc configuration.
The only problem i have is with the smp wind.
The lips tremble slightly with the wind.
Is there a way to disable the smp wind setting only for lips?

Thanks for the mod

[Iroha]

On 10/15/2024 at 11:56 PM, Predator-RJ said:

High poly Head SMP lips and Throat

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Just tested.

This. Is. AWESOME!!!:)

[Deathevn35]

I haven't seen anyone else bring this up so it could be a conflict or config issue somewhere outside of this mod but when I use it, it only works for me when I'm human. If I become a vampire the SMP from this mod stops working. All other SMP works fine. Even if I create my character and use the Hi Poly vampire head, the moment I become a vamp, I still lose the mouth and throat physics.

[Predator-RJ]

12 hours ago, alain31 said:

Hello,

I just tried this mod thinking i would have to switch everything to full smp but it works very well with my 3ba full cbpc configuration.
The only problem i have is with the smp wind.
The lips tremble slightly with the wind.
Is there a way to disable the smp wind setting only for lips?

Thanks for the mod

Hi, thanks! unfortunatelly SMP wind is a "ALL" confg, not per item, if there was a cofng per item would be good : )

[Predator-RJ]

53 minutes ago, Deathevn35 said:

I haven't seen anyone else bring this up so it could be a conflict or config issue somewhere outside of this mod but when I use it, it only works for me when I'm human. If I become a vampire the SMP from this mod stops working. All other SMP works fine. Even if I create my character and use the Hi Poly vampire head, the moment I become a vamp, I still lose the mouth and throat physics.

if vampires use another head nif, then thats why, this is only the Human famale default mesh

[Iroha]

18 hours ago, alain31 said:

The only problem i have is with the smp wind.
The lips tremble slightly with the wind.
Is there a way to disable the smp wind setting only for lips?

 

 

5 hours ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, thanks! unfortunatelly SMP wind is a "ALL" confg, not per item, if there was a cofng per item would be good : )

I think swapping fsmp wind to smp-wind (it's mod for fsmp from fsmp 1.49.0 or later) can be possible solution (UPD. And it is - if you are on AE, and thus can you SMP Wind from p.1):

1) base smp-wind

2) smp-wind-ng  (if you on 1.5.97) UPD. 1.0.1 of SMP Wind NG doesn't support settings for certain bones. So no workaround if you are on 1.5.97 for now.

3) how-to-config-wind-per-item (first sticky post)

4) probably  and we need to disable wind in fsmp main config, but i'm not sure.

 

Bones to add in SMP wind.ini (when it will be created):

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[Bones]
L Breast00=0
L Breast01=0
L Breast02=0
L Breast03=0
R Breast00=0
R Breast01=0
R Breast02=0
R Breast03=0
NPC L FrontThigh=0
NPC R FrontThigh=0
NPC L RearThigh=0
NPC R RearThigh=0
NPC L Thigh [LThg]=0
NPC R Thigh [RThg]=0
NPC L RearCalf [LrClf]=0
NPC R RearCalf [RrClf]=0
NPC L Calf [LClf]=0
NPC R Calf [RClf]=0
NPC L Butt=0
NPC R Butt=0
Upper Lip Center=0
Upper Lip Right=0
Upper Lip Left=0
Corner Lip Right=0
Corner Lip Left=0
Bottom Lip Center=0
Bottom Lip Right=0
Bottom Lip Left=0
Cheeck Side R=0
Cheeck Side L=0
Throat Center 1=0
Throat Center 2=0
Throat Center 3=0

 

 

 

Edited December 26, 2024 by Iroha

[Angel019]

Hello, love this mod and it works great on my pc, need a little help tho, i tried to add this to my follower Lydia like shown in the video but it didn't work out for me, not sure what i was doing wrong. Basically im using MO2 and Lydia is an overhaul from Coldsun's Visions AIO npc's, so basically i don't know which femalehead.nif files i need to tranfer? maybe someone has some tips, thanks

[Iroha]

8 hours ago, Iroha said:

 

I think swapping fsmp wind to smp-wind (it's mod for fsmp from fsmp 1.49.0 or later) can be possible solution (UPD. And it is - if you are on AE, and thus can you SMP Wind from p.1...

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I realised there is one more way to workaround undesired throat and mouth physics outside of sex-scenes:

we can just move "SKSE\Plugins\hdtSkinnedMeshConfigs\HP_Head SMP\HP_Head.xml" (NiStringExtraData) from head.nif, to any equippable item, and use item than needed. In advance we can create simple mod that will equip item on sexlab-scene-start event, for example.

 

UPD. Tried that. With no luck for some reason - equipped item didn't activated SMP for head.

Edited December 26, 2024 by Iroha

[satanfist]

On 12/22/2024 at 6:32 PM, Predator-RJ said:

Throat depends 99% on the size, and animations, some autors just "scale the penis" down inside the head so it wont clip out... problem is then this anim will do nothing in the throat, only anims that the autor actually animated the whole penis to bend, and pass near the throat will work, test with a chaurus.....   now im still cant get your script to work too XD

Thanks for your reply, sorry I have not replied sooner, Christmas and all. My high poly head appears to be the same as yours, so I simply replaced the two. I think I'm having issues with SL Triggers at present. Despite including debug flags in the code, none of them showed when I ran the script. The revision should better utililize the code loop, and it should be working better than the original script I posted. Give it try, if it still doesn't work then perhaps you're right, manually reseting SMP might be the only solution.

 

Just extract the archive to your SL Triggers, commands folder (SKSE\Plugins\sl_triggers\commands). The setup in game is the same as my previous post.

SMP Reset v1.1.7z

Edited December 27, 2024 by satanfist
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[GumballMachine1]

On 12/15/2024 at 12:03 AM, SlattKingg said:

So my player character's tongue has collision during sex scenes but the face and mouth don't. Im wondering what the issue could be i have all physics installed and smp fully functioning. I used a different preset and still same result. 

 

 

 

EDIT: I literally found the fix dude i've been playing skyrim this whole time thinking i had High Poly Head installed not knowing you have to go into racemenu and move the head slider to high poly. For anyone else as dumb as me make sure your high poly head is correct in racemenu

Thank you so much

[TELETENTA]

how to install or use this mod?

[Predator-RJ]

On 12/27/2024 at 2:11 AM, satanfist said:

Thanks for your reply, sorry I have not replied sooner, Christmas and all. My high poly head appears to be the same as yours, so I simply replaced the two. I think I'm having issues with SL Triggers at present. Despite including debug flags in the code, none of them showed when I ran the script. The revision should better utililize the code loop, and it should be working better than the original script I posted. Give it try, if it still doesn't work then perhaps you're right, manually reseting SMP might be the only solution.

 

Just extract the archive to your SL Triggers, commands folder (SKSE\Plugins\sl_triggers\commands). The setup in game is the same as my previous post.

SMP Reset v1.1.7z 254 B · 14 downloads

Oh no problem, I tested this since you posted, it seems to work "occasionally" from what I could "see" since nothing appears in the console about the reset happening or not, but when it doesn't happen the problem is visible in the mouth, and sometimes it didn't happen, I suppose the script worked, I think it depends on the animation, some take longer than others, there are too many variables to predict, only with more people testing your script will we have a conclusion, anyway thanks for trying to find a way to improve the mod, and for the attention!!! let's see what people post about the script over time....

[Albinodoggo1]

Do you have to do the SMP Reset for everytime you start an animation?

 

[Predator-RJ]

17 hours ago, TELETENTA said:

how to install or use this mod?

mod page description

[Predator-RJ]

2 hours ago, Albinodoggo1 said:

Do you have to do the SMP Reset for everytime you start an animation?

 

 Hi, yes, or you can try the script for SL triggers, see mod page description

[saltandsour]

Remember once asking about if we could add cbpc type physics or collision to face, lip and tongue. Seems like this mod is almost it. Btw does it add physics to tongue as well? Do you think its possible to add this to other male heads?

[Predator-RJ]

18 hours ago, saltandsour said:

Remember once asking about if we could add cbpc type physics or collision to face, lip and tongue. Seems like this mod is almost it. Btw does it add physics to tongue as well? Do you think its possible to add this to other male heads?

Hi, only female head, you can try to transfer it with aligning the two heads, but will need a manual edit, there is tongues with SMP, but no collions, since adding it would just make them break a lot.

[Neyri LL]

What a mod, but unfortunately I can't make it work  . I'm an experienced modder and troubleshooter, I've tried everything in this whole thread and more, short of testing on a clean mod setup. Might do that later... Anyhow, thanks for your work, I'm sure I'll get it to work some day, but for now I'm skipping (I really really really REALLY wanted this😭😭)

 

 

Edit: All of my other SMP collisions work fine

Edited January 2, 2025 by Neyri LL

[Dorabella]

Is it possible to turn the mod into CBPC? Is there a tutorial guide on creation?

[Predator-RJ]

13 hours ago, Neyri LL said:

What a mod, but unfortunately I can't make it work  . I'm an experienced modder and troubleshooter, I've tried everything in this whole thread and more, short of testing on a clean mod setup. Might do that later... Anyhow, thanks for your work, I'm sure I'll get it to work some day, but for now I'm skipping (I really really really REALLY wanted this😭😭)

 

 

Edit: All of my other SMP collisions work fine

Thanks! well are you using FSMP? if not you should, also have you activated SMP head parts in the FSMP mcm menu? and also disable that confg to hairs and wigs?  disable that because the head sometimes get confused by smp as a wig also in the FSMP mcm menu, TNG need the patch, my one or user one, creatures need ABC from baka, and you sure your character is useing HP head? Race menu wont use HP head as default, there is a slider there that you need to change for the game actually use HP head.

[Predator-RJ]

1 hour ago, Dorabella said:

Is it possible to turn the mod into CBPC? Is there a tutorial guide on creation?

Yes possible, dont know about CBPC tutorials, and other problems that will come with it.