Latex Collar, Orgasm Curse and Fetish Dreams

[kurotatsu]

Idea for possible devices:

Combined / fused.

It replaces several body devices with one more restrictive and more effects.

For example replace boots, gloves, suit, armbinder with KFT straitjacket, leather full suit or amputee rubber suit (call this one portal suit, i.e. hands and legs are not cut off but in some portal device).

Add slider for this to happen in the MCM and it will be OK for everyone, I guess.

[copen]

I am new to this mod, installed it yesterday. Problem is when player wear clothes or accesories then massage says "This cloth feels very unconfortable" and cannot  run, so can't wear any clothes.(vanilla outfit too) how can i do?

[izzyknows]

5 minutes ago, copen said:

I am new to this mod, installed it yesterday. Problem is when player wear clothes or accesories then massage says "This cloth feels very unconfortable" and cannot  run, so can't wear any clothes.(vanilla outfit too) how can i do?

Turn off the SAKR outfits in the MCM.

Then review the first page for how it works, and the SAKR mod page too. It's a bit complicated.

[awesomeSPAS]

9 hours ago, kurotatsu said:

Idea for possible devices:

Combined / fused.

It replaces several body devices with one more restrictive and more effects.

For example replace boots, gloves, suit, armbinder with KFT straitjacket, leather full suit or amputee rubber suit (call this one portal suit, i.e. hands and legs are not cut off but in some portal device).

Add slider for this to happen in the MCM and it will be OK for everyone, I guess.

 

Thank you for the idea. This will require some thinking, mostly from gameplay perspective. I do not want to restrict  character from moving, shooting and finding people to do collar tasks. For this i need non-restrictive devices (only using DD armbinder to force player not to ignore collar for too long, expectations are players will never get things so far to get armbinder equipped)

 

I also want to build up some gradual pressure on player to perform tasks. For this I need minimum 4 devices, but 6 works better. Its like player thinks "2 devices I can ignore no big deal", but then things get little more tense

 

I also want character to look sexy\slutty in the process. And KFT has no high heels. KFT also has most things occupying slot 33 so there are no too many variations once you get any kind of bounding.

 

But yes I want to make things more variable.

[awesomeSPAS]

10 hours ago, copen said:

I am new to this mod, installed it yesterday. Problem is when player wear clothes or accesories then massage says "This cloth feels very unconfortable" and cannot  run, so can't wear any clothes.(vanilla outfit too) how can i do?

 

Yes in nut shell - once you get "sexy SAKR outfit" you only allowed to wear that outfit till you clear player's mental confusion. If you wear something else (there are some exceptions) you will not be able to run. But this is just one of 3 major components of this mod, you can turn it off (set probability to 0) and experience Dreams and/or Devices. Although I think  cursed SAKR outfits are pretty cool when you have enough SAKR mods installed and everything is working

[JemappelleRedacted]

On 10/8/2024 at 10:05 AM, awesomeSPAS said:

 

Thank you, I'll think about it. I don't want to compete with Raider Pet, or similar mods, there is Mutants Breeder mod as well, and also so far LCC philosophy was to minimize prescriptive path and randomize everything. So re-playabilty is big focus for LCC since I want it to be not a QUEST but ENVIRONMENT. What you suggest seems interesting, but somewhat contradicts the idea. But may be I can pivot from this somehow, will think. All ideas are welcome!!

 

So, I had a thought on this...narrative dreams. Doesn't have to be elaborate, but could add variety and I think some non-nightmare dreams could be good...particularly if you've got the collar on and you don't get to orgasm because it was consensual and vanilla, like the conceiving Shaun, working at a strip club to pay off your law school debt, or Nate going to town with all the BDSM gear you may or may not have had before the war.

 

Further, you could have it start as a dream, then devolve to a nightmare that adds actors from the wasteland. For example, prewar loving sex with Nate and your "neighbour" comes to complain about your "dog", and it's a supermutant complaining about your pet deathclaw. Or the bombs drop after round 1, and you run to the vault entrance and get caught by ghouls or something and get to watch the bombs drop from the elevator as a feral on human orgy breaks out. 

 

You can go from as basic as a few vignettes with fixed actors and furniture to replacing the "it was a dream, or was it?" with "That was a vivid dream of that time I <insert story concept>", all the way up to elaborate dialogue trees with different actors and props if you feel particularly inspired.

 

Just food for thought that hit me last night, hope it provides some inspiration!

[awesomeSPAS]

18 hours ago, JemappelleRedacted said:

 

So, I had a thought on this...narrative dreams. Doesn't have to be elaborate, but could add variety and I think some non-nightmare dreams could be good...particularly if you've got the collar on and you don't get to orgasm because it was consensual and vanilla, like the conceiving Shaun, working at a strip club to pay off your law school debt, or Nate going to town with all the BDSM gear you may or may not have had before the war.

 

Further, you could have it start as a dream, then devolve to a nightmare that adds actors from the wasteland. For example, prewar loving sex with Nate and your "neighbour" comes to complain about your "dog", and it's a supermutant complaining about your pet deathclaw. Or the bombs drop after round 1, and you run to the vault entrance and get caught by ghouls or something and get to watch the bombs drop from the elevator as a feral on human orgy breaks out. 

 

You can go from as basic as a few vignettes with fixed actors and furniture to replacing the "it was a dream, or was it?" with "That was a vivid dream of that time I <insert story concept>", all the way up to elaborate dialogue trees with different actors and props if you feel particularly inspired.

 

Just food for thought that hit me last night, hope it provides some inspiration!

 

Yes this would be great. But i would need to team up with someone to develop scenarios and quests stages for those kind of dreams. This is pretty big task.

[copen]

On 10/20/2024 at 5:13 PM, izzyknows said:

Turn off the SAKR outfits in the MCM.

Then review the first page for how it works, and the SAKR mod page too. It's a bit complicated.

 

On 10/21/2024 at 3:10 AM, awesomeSPAS said:

 

Yes in nut shell - once you get "sexy SAKR outfit" you only allowed to wear that outfit till you clear player's mental confusion. If you wear something else (there are some exceptions) you will not be able to run. But this is just one of 3 major components of this mod, you can turn it off (set probability to 0) and experience Dreams and/or Devices. Although I think  cursed SAKR outfits are pretty cool when you have enough SAKR mods installed and everything is working

 

Thank you, I didn't understand what this mod intended. Now I knew how its concept genius.

[awesomeSPAS]

11 hours ago, copen said:

 

 

Thank you, I didn't understand what this mod intended. Now I knew how its concept genius.

 

Thanks for nice words

[JemappelleRedacted]

I just need to inflict this on someone (and hopefully get it out of my head), feel free to ignore.

 

Nora and Nate having an anniversary dinner of lobster and a mirelurk breaks in screaming "Brother! NOOOOOO!"

 

On 10/22/2024 at 7:23 AM, awesomeSPAS said:

 

Yes this would be great. But i would need to team up with someone to develop scenarios and quests stages for those kind of dreams. This is pretty big task.

 

I think crowd sourcing ideas would be a good start, but then it's overloading you with extra work

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, JemappelleRedacted said:

Nora and Nate having an anniversary dinner of lobster and a mirelurk breaks in screaming "Brother! NOOOOOO!"

Actually if you change it to Norita and the OB.......

That would be really funny in the context of Nuka Ride.

[JemappelleRedacted]

Arguably Nora and Music would be more funny than Norita and OB, since Music started it 😅

[izzyknows]

11 hours ago, JemappelleRedacted said:

Arguably Nora and Music would be more funny than Norita and OB, since Music started it 😅

Nora or Norita would work.

In the Nora run, at the moment, it would be really funny as the OB is trying to get the Queen to leave the bottling pant and Beagle is part of his plan.

The OB would get pissed and make Nora/Norita and Music figure out how to get rid of her. But, Beagle would be pissed at them and they would have to gain the Frat Boys help in calming Beagle down.... Kali might even be on Beagles side and be happy to do a little "extra" training with the girls on Beagles behalf.

 

[izzyknows]

@awesomeSPAS

The Faction check, could you add a condition so dead NPC's are ignored during the check. I've had several that passed on from totally natural causes, popup as having errors. I guess being deceased does kinda cause an error or 3.

 

[awesomeSPAS]

5 hours ago, izzyknows said:

@awesomeSPAS

The Faction check, could you add a condition so dead NPC's are ignored during the check. I've had several that passed on from totally natural causes, popup as having errors. I guess being deceased does kinda cause an error or 3.

 

 

Added in 1.28

[squidwardd]

Collar works just fine for me but I'm having this weird issue with the dreams. This wasn't present for me in 1.15 and the older versions but ever since 1.21 this has been a reoccurring issue for me. Every time one is triggered after waking up my controls are locked and my screen is black and white, normal so far I suppose, if I am in 3rd person before sleeping I can either see myself or sometimes I will be forced into first person. After a few seconds any devices equipped by the dream are removed and my screen returns to normal color with regained controls, after that every npc in the world is non-hostile to me. Raiders, mutants, ghouls, nothing will attack me and even if I attack them they will lose my location after a second or two and return to being passive. I have tried from a clean install and a mid game one but this issue is reoccurring in both, I'm not sure why this is happening and it could be user error but I have no idea what I could be doing to make this happen. Having a collar equipped or not, having low or high arousal, changing mcm settings, all things I have checked to see what my issue may be but none of these have had any results for me. I can see a message when I load a save that says the dream actor check is healthy or something like that but I'm just not sure if that's correct or if it should be appearing on every load. Once again the standard collar works perfectly fine for me so if this isn't a deal breaker for me, I've enjoyed the mod very much so far and will continue to use it regardless of my situation. This is probably user error but I'd rather be embarrassed with a working game instead of not being able to use the full functions of the mod. Thanks for any help and sorry if this is a pain.

[awesomeSPAS]

17 hours ago, squidwardd said:

Collar works just fine for me but I'm having this weird issue with the dreams. This wasn't present for me in 1.15 and the older versions but ever since 1.21 this has been a reoccurring issue for me. Every time one is triggered after waking up my controls are locked and my screen is black and white, normal so far I suppose, if I am in 3rd person before sleeping I can either see myself or sometimes I will be forced into first person. After a few seconds any devices equipped by the dream are removed and my screen returns to normal color with regained controls, after that every npc in the world is non-hostile to me. Raiders, mutants, ghouls, nothing will attack me and even if I attack them they will lose my location after a second or two and return to being passive. I have tried from a clean install and a mid game one but this issue is reoccurring in both, I'm not sure why this is happening and it could be user error but I have no idea what I could be doing to make this happen. Having a collar equipped or not, having low or high arousal, changing mcm settings, all things I have checked to see what my issue may be but none of these have had any results for me. I can see a message when I load a save that says the dream actor check is healthy or something like that but I'm just not sure if that's correct or if it should be appearing on every load. Once again the standard collar works perfectly fine for me so if this isn't a deal breaker for me, I've enjoyed the mod very much so far and will continue to use it regardless of my situation. This is probably user error but I'd rather be embarrassed with a working game instead of not being able to use the full functions of the mod. Thanks for any help and sorry if this is a pain.

 

Please send me LCC.log and LCC_AM.log from user folder, I'll take a look. Verbose logging should be ON in LCC MCM Debug

 

 

Edited October 25, 2024 by awesomeSPAS

[deathmorph]

On 10/20/2024 at 8:05 PM, awesomeSPAS said:

And KFT has no high heels.

 

Oh, I'm curious. I use the High Heel Training mod, and after completing the training my character can no longer run without high heels.

 

But something different. Are there alternatives to the armbinders? In my case at least, the character can no longer grip properly, it seems displaced. But I don't know if it's a local problem or not.

 

Unfortunately I can't upload any pictures right now, the relevant function in the forum is broken.

[awesomeSPAS]

10 hours ago, deathmorph said:

 

Oh, I'm curious. I use the High Heel Training mod, and after completing the training my character can no longer run without high heels.

 

But something different. Are there alternatives to the armbinders? In my case at least, the character can no longer grip properly, it seems displaced. But I don't know if it's a local problem or not.

 

Unfortunately I can't upload any pictures right now, the relevant function in the forum is broken.

 

I really wanted to use KFT arm binders because of variety, and they look cool, but they conflict with DD boots on slot 33 (and may be some other items). Other option is handcuffs but that's boring for this scenario...

Edited October 26, 2024 by awesomeSPAS

[deathmorph]

15 hours ago, awesomeSPAS said:

I really wanted to use KFT arm binders because of variety, and they look cool, but they conflict with DD boots on slot 33 (and may be some other items). Other option is handcuffs but that's boring for this scenario...

 

Is it possible to make the subsequent devices dependent on chance, so that you don't necessarily get the armbinder? And would it be possible to exclude certain DDs? I don't mean the armbinders in particular, but a transparent suite that is the size of a super mutant and not my character and unfortunately can't be adjusted to the body via FG. 

 

I set the warnings about additional devices to zero and thought that would stop the warning, but unfortunately it still appears. Could this warning be deactivated by setting it to 0, for the element of surprise?

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, deathmorph said:

but a transparent suite

Don't you have the FG conversion, or does it not include the transparent cat suit?

LCC does include the restrictive corset, but not the cat suit.

 

I'm sure you've figured out the armbinder can still be unlocked normally, which is great btw.

 

Edited October 27, 2024 by izzyknows

[deathmorph]

1 hour ago, izzyknows said:

Don't you have the FG conversion, or does it not include the transparent cat suit?

LCC does include the restrictive corset, but not the cat suit.

 

I meant this one. It had once manifested itself after the armbinders. And yes, I installed the FG conversion, but it doesn't work for the suit. Unfortunately.

 

(The armbinder's hands obscure most of the scope when aiming.)

 

1 hour ago, izzyknows said:

I'm sure you've figured out the armbinder can still be unlocked normally, which is great btw.

 

I hadn't even tried that yet! Disgrace  - on to the next workbench 

Edited October 27, 2024 by deathmorph

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, deathmorph said:

And yes, I installed the FG conversion, but it doesn't work for the suit.

This one includes the Cat Suites. Has a patch for the missing cat suit sliders, so might need that.

[deathmorph]

2 hours ago, izzyknows said:

This one includes the Cat Suites. Has a patch for the missing cat suit sliders, so might need that

 

Thanks for the tip, I had a different version installed.

1501125251_Devious_Devices_Fusion_Girl_BodySlide_Conversion_(HHS)_1.3.4.7z

I've now uninstalled it and replaced it with the new one. However, I now have the problem that after putting on the DD my character no longer has a petite figure, but a fuller one. Even though I selected petite in Bodyslide. Strange.

 

Or does the above version have to be installed additionally?

 

PS; The workbench didn't work, so I had to collect bottles  

Edited October 27, 2024 by deathmorph

[izzyknows]

53 minutes ago, deathmorph said:

Or does the above version have to be installed additionally?

That I don't know... don't use FG. Normally don't use mods of MA I've had to block. Which is only 2!