Best SL Defeat Option in 2024

[huhyeahso]

I cant get DDe to work with naked defeat, it says theres 0 outfits in the list even tho i installed the naked defeat DD outfits.

[maptk]

On 12/6/2024 at 3:21 PM, Wonko486 said:

I was using naked defeat... till I actually got to fighting people, then when I was knocked down: the screen did this. It never fixed itself. Maybe I didn't wait long enough to see if the animations were over, but... I literally paid for laser surgery so I don't have to see that shit, why would I put up with it in my game? Could not figure out what setting did it. If I can figure it out, I might try ND again, because up until the astigmatism: it worked very well. Smooth and responsive.

for me the deflag of Blur in MCM naked defeat was working

[Casandor26]

On 1/7/2025 at 4:53 PM, belegost said:

Bane Defeat

When using simple defeat, if I drop the enemy's heath below certain threads hold, the sex scene is forced to happens without the player's decision. What I want is the enemy, when below a certain health, will enter the crouching/defeated state and the player can interact with that npc to decide the scene will happens or not. Does Bane's defeat fulfil this requirement? And does it support creature animations?

[belegost]

9 hours ago, Casandor26 said:

When using simple defeat, if I drop the enemy's heath below certain threads hold, the sex scene is forced to happens without the player's decision. What I want is the enemy, when below a certain health, will enter the crouching/defeated state and the player can interact with that npc to decide the scene will happens or not. Does Bane's defeat fulfil this requirement? And does it support creature animations?

It's a bloody harvester combine, it does everything.

[Crocop777]

I agree. I tried almost all defeat mods and nothing can beats Sexlab Defeat BANE edition.  It has everything and it is very smooth with no bugs.

 

The download link is kinda hidden in the original sexlab defeat thread tho , BaneMaster the author of the Bane Edition , refuses to create a new thread. But i'm sure you can find it if you look at BaneMaster profile page.

[belegost]

I've figured out the problems I had with dying in Bane's Defeat. Turns out that was na error on my part. Every time I was setting up the mod I set "Wounds - threshold minimum" to 0% from the initial 5% becasue I completely misunderstood what this option does. However I once left it at default and suddenly - no dying out of the blue. there are still instances, where DOTs proccing after knock down will kill my character, but that's very rare.

 

Other than that, I was surprised by how stable and how consistent it works against all types of enemies and sources of damage. Bane's Defeat is the best defeat mod that currently exists. It does exactly everything you want it to and covers player, followers, NPCs, has varied outcome scenarios, supports DD, SS++, DCL and is relatively fast.

 

It is the GOAT.

Edited March 7, 2025 by belegost

[Roggvir]

4 hours ago, belegost said:

I've figured out the problems I had with dying in Bane's Defeat. Turns out that was na error on my part. Every time I was setting up the mod I set "Wounds - threshold minimum" to 0% from the initial 5% becasue I completely misunderstood what this option does. However I once left it at default and suddenly - no dying out of the blue. there are still instances, where DOTs proccing after knock down will kill my character, but that's very rare.

 

Other than that, I was surprised by how stable and how consistent it works against all types of enemies and sources of damage. Bane's Defeat is the best defeat mod that currently exists. It does exactly everything you want it to and covers player, followers, NPCs, has varied outcome scenarios, supports DD, SS++, DCL and is relatively fast.

 

It is the GOAT.

Do you have a link?
I used to use Bane's version, but i forgot where i got it and can't find it anywhere now.

[belegost]

3 hours ago, Roggvir said:

Do you have a link?
I used to use Bane's version, but i forgot where i got it and can't find it anywhere now.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/19941-sexlab-defeat/page/556/#comment-3583646

 

[Roggvir]

1 hour ago, belegost said:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/19941-sexlab-defeat/page/556/#comment-3583646

 

Thank you very much.

[xxxstupidfastxxx]

Yeah sorry to ghost this one, found banes ages ago. Its perfect. Use it. Links above. Case Closed.

[belegost]

1 hour ago, xxxstupidfastxxx said:

Yeah sorry to ghost this one, found banes ages ago. Its perfect. Use it. Links above. Case Closed.

Change the topic to current year please.

[stephenchow3008]

On 1/22/2025 at 10:18 AM, Crocop777 said:

I agree. I tried almost all defeat mods and nothing can beats Sexlab Defeat BANE edition.  It has everything and it is very smooth with no bugs.

 

The download link is kinda hidden in the original sexlab defeat thread tho , BaneMaster the author of the Bane Edition , refuses to create a new thread. But i'm sure you can find it if you look at BaneMaster profile page.

necrophilia didn't work, are you ok?

[Nymra]

Yeaah, welp, some Info here:

Performance Issues 
- Naked Defeat is not "stressing" anything. It played it on a potatoe on LE without issues. 
- if things take long, its usually just papyrus (and particularly Sexlab) beeing slow in general
- if you are on SE, it should also auto switch on the "Lag Fix", which was a performance issue for ALL Mods that disabled player controls
---> if player "USE/ACTIVAT" controls are ALL disabled the papyrus enginge would lag alot due to its engine limitations. This is fixed now from Nades side at least

-> Complex Mods like Naked Defeat are a good benchmark for how bad your Loard Order is in general
The mod works lightning fast and perfect in a minimal Load Order. Its just Skyrim modding for you. 
 

Stuff you dont like
the MCM is vast. you can disable almost everything
you can toggle off:
- Whipping
- Capture
- DDs 

- Chain Rapes/Scenarios
- fine tune creatures 
- find spot and escape crawl
- number of sex scenes (chain rape 0%) and many more

Quest mode
with Alt+K (debug wheel) you can enable "Quest Mode" which always only triggers one scene (sex, whip or escape) and is done much faster.

In general Naked Defeat has these main goals:
- make every aspect of Vanilla Skyirm kinky dangerous, especially combat
- punish the player with a time loss (what is the point of a FAST defeat mod, the immersion is zero. but welp, Naked Defeat can even be that via its MCM)
- utilize the vast resources of ZaZ Animation Pack and other mods to add variety and fun instead of an always repeating scenario
- now includes DDs
- be as compatible as possible 

Im also good at making bugs, no question. But I m also active in the support thread and try to be fast on fixes

NOTE:
Naked Defeat is fully compatible with Acheron, Sexlab Aroused Creatures (other than many other defeat mods), Sexlab Defeat (when configured correctly) and also has patches for combat mods that fuck up whipping (Precision etc.)


 

[NNS10]

Baka's version of Defeat says it solves compatibility issues with BaboDialogue.

 

Does Bane's version of Defeat also have those fixes?

[belegost]

32 minutes ago, NNS10 said:

Baka's version of Defeat says it solves compatibility issues with BaboDialogue.

 

Does Bane's version of Defeat also have those fixes?

Babo Dialogue has issues even with Babo Dialogue.

[DocClox]

 

On 11/12/2024 at 4:19 AM, NoppaiKohai said:

I don't understand how the authors intend for you to actually play the game and go out and do quests etc when you are hobbled and move at 0.0000000001% move speed, or are locked in a perpetual rape fest that leads to more rape fest etc until you can't even stand up for more than 5 seconds at a time between animations

 

Yeah. I love the idea of defeat mods, but I can't play them for long. Usually I play until my poor DB gets really deep in trouble, then I think "well, that's the end of her story", and it's back to PAH and DoM.

[SubuSubu]

Haven't played Skyrim for years, what's the best defeat mod for futa NPC's (if there's one) for SSE ?

[belegost]

20 hours ago, SubuSubu said:

Haven't played Skyrim for years, what's the best defeat mod for futa NPC's (if there's one) for SSE ?

Defeat mods do not care about your character's gender.

Edited May 7, 2025 by belegost

[Kamikatana]

On 5/3/2025 at 2:05 PM, belegost said:

Babo Dialogue has issues even with Babo Dialogue.

That is the funniest thing I have read in a while, and so true.... LOL

[Kamikatana]

On 5/3/2025 at 9:27 AM, Nymra said:

Yeaah, welp, some Info here:

Performance Issues 
- Naked Defeat is not "stressing" anything. It played it on a potatoe on LE without issues. 
- if things take long, its usually just papyrus (and particularly Sexlab) beeing slow in general
- if you are on SE, it should also auto switch on the "Lag Fix", which was a performance issue for ALL Mods that disabled player controls
---> if player "USE/ACTIVAT" controls are ALL disabled the papyrus enginge would lag alot due to its engine limitations. This is fixed now from Nades side at least

-> Complex Mods like Naked Defeat are a good benchmark for how bad your Loard Order is in general
The mod works lightning fast and perfect in a minimal Load Order. Its just Skyrim modding for you. 
 

Stuff you dont like
the MCM is vast. you can disable almost everything
you can toggle off:
- Whipping
- Capture
- DDs 

- Chain Rapes/Scenarios
- fine tune creatures 
- find spot and escape crawl
- number of sex scenes (chain rape 0%) and many more

Quest mode
with Alt+K (debug wheel) you can enable "Quest Mode" which always only triggers one scene (sex, whip or escape) and is done much faster.

In general Naked Defeat has these main goals:
- make every aspect of Vanilla Skyirm kinky dangerous, especially combat
- punish the player with a time loss (what is the point of a FAST defeat mod, the immersion is zero. but welp, Naked Defeat can even be that via its MCM)
- utilize the vast resources of ZaZ Animation Pack and other mods to add variety and fun instead of an always repeating scenario
- now includes DDs
- be as compatible as possible 

Im also good at making bugs, no question. But I m also active in the support thread and try to be fast on fixes

NOTE:
Naked Defeat is fully compatible with Acheron, Sexlab Aroused Creatures (other than many other defeat mods), Sexlab Defeat (when configured correctly) and also has patches for combat mods that fuck up whipping (Precision etc.)


 

 

Thanks Nymra for the note above.   After reading this, decided to give Naked Defeat a try, and although I needed to get quite a few things (i.e. SLAL's from various sources, etc.), it installled really easily and seems to be working very well.  Thanks.

[SSJjohsey]

I've tried practical defeat, simple defeat, bane defeat, and yamete. The only one that procs regularly and for all followers (I usually have 3) is simple defeat. I kind of miss the additional features in bane with the struggling animation and resist mini-game but I can do without those. I like that the PC is given the option to interact with defeated NPCs/creatures and it's not automated if you don't check anything for PC in MCM, just use the wheel key instead. 

[prefabricatedusername]

i'm new into AE and mod organizer 2 warns me that SL defeat uses a plugin form 43 instead of 44 which is allegedly a problem with AE/SE. has this been a problem for any of you? i used to use both defeat and submit on LE (didn't really need submit but there wasn't the slightest issue with compatibility between the two) and defeat worked very well with one follower in all situations

Edited June 10, 2025 by prefabricatedusername
unclear wording

[prefabricatedusername]

On 4/11/2024 at 6:57 AM, Kristus Kringle said:

I'm using Practical Defeat, it gets the job done. It worked from lvl 1 without a problem although for some reason I've died a couple times lately and it didn't trigger.

 

Another one I really like is Battlefuck. Not sure why I didn't use it this playthrough, maybe it doesn't work with the last update.

 

Nothing really beats the original (or one of the variations) but I think it's been strung along through too many versions. I would love to see something new with all the functionality of the original but it doesn't seem that will ever happen. 

 

 

does practical defeat work well with one follower?

[belegost]

2 hours ago, prefabricatedusername said:

plugin form 43 instead of 44

It doesn't matter, ignore it.

[AlyssaAwoo]

Practical Defeat is really nicely done with it's little scenes of getting bound after failing the struggle, enemies leaning down, commenting on and grabbing your loot and armor, little comments and transitions between scenes and all. A lot of other defeat mods just skip straight to the SL scene, none of the NPCs ever say a single thing to you, bind you in some devices and teleport you away, which is just very bland. In PD they even recognize you and mock you for coming back and getting defeated again, it's great. There's also the fact that there's the Simple Events mod where enemies can cut your hair off, write stuff on your body and smother your face with makeup. Just overall really cool!

 

Naked Defeat seems to do a lot too, especially with it's furniture, though the mod just feels very bloated in some areas.

Edited June 15, 2025 by AlyssaAwoo