Someone explain "Skimpy Armors" to me.

[gsguns]

There was another thread that some dude asked for why "Sex" mods? 90% of the guys who answered said it was for immersion. Understandable

 

But, now I need someone to explain me, why people are obscessed with those skimpy stuff. It is lore breaking seeing women walk around semi naked, even more, because the armors were meant to protect not to be cute. 

[Halstrom]

Not because we want to, because we can.

 

I've got no idea how my semi-naked Fallout women keep interfering with your Skyrim game, you must have installed something wrong, Load Order?

[Mud]

Because sometimes people just don't give a damn about immersion and lore breaking. Other times, people don't lose their immersion just because someone's walking around with huge cleavage.

 

I personally fall somewhere in between the two - I don't much care about keeping Skyrim in line with its "original" incarnation, the absolute malleability is why I like Elder Scrolls at all - it sure ain't for the plotlines and gameplay, I tells you. At the same time, I have no problem imagining my current save's game world telling a persisting story while a pink-haired anime catgirl sells an enchanted golden bikini to a female shopkeeper who happens to be clad in an outfit three sizes too small for her.

[Kamen Rider Kuuga]

Because I have a body replacer and damnit, I'm gonna see it!

[Guest airdance]

Another reason is because this game  is played mostly by young men (and women) at the peak of their sexuality who get to immerse themselves in their favourite fantasy without hurting anyone. 

  But here is the best part....if you do not like the mods, do not use them.

 

 Because when all is said and done this is Just A Game.  If it feels good do it, if you like it, do it again.

[Spyder Arachnid]

Because it's their game and if they want skimpy outfits they can have them. Do you really need a reason why someone likes something?

[Mumin]

Most people like porn.

 

Most people hate admitting they like porn.

 

Hence dodgy answers like "immersion" for sex mods (even though it may at least partially be true in some cases.)

 

Further, has anyone actually said they wanted skimpy armor for immersion?

 

[Koko.Hekmatyar]

Personally I like the Skimpy Armors because I use body tatoos and I like to be able to see them without having to completely strip down my character.

 

P.s. I'm an adult female btw not some adolescent kid who likes to look as semi naked 2D chars.

[dboura]

Regardless of popular belief, skimpy armors within this time-framed style is lore. Granted the various styles are not very lore friendly, but skimpy and nudity was actually used by celts and some other civilizations in conjunction with war paints when going into battle.

 

The same can be said about lore friendliness when it comes to full plate styled armor too. They were way to heavy, hot, and bulky to actually have been any use in true battles and were primarily used for ceremonies and other activities where hampered movement didn't really matter, like jousting.

 

But in games, eye-candy, styles, fantasy, .. many reasons and within the world their fantasy portrays, it is lore friendly. Regardless to true lore, when it comes to actual games and gamers, actual lore from devs is always a guideline that is more often than not, pieced apart by those playing the game into their own fantasy design. That's what makes the immersion more realistic to the gamer, is that they combine the lore from the dev's with their own fantasy style and feel part of it as it now becomes a part of their fantasy world.

 

At least that's how I have always viewed lore to be within all the gaming styles I've done. PNP, CG, Console, etc..

[winny257]

Another reason is because this game  is played mostly by young men (and women) at the peak of their sexuality who get to immerse themselves in their favourite fantasy without hurting anyone. 

  But here is the best part....if you do not like the mods, do not use them.

 

 Because when all is said and done this is Just A Game.  If it feels good do it, if you like it, do it again.

 

no no, not just young men, I'm an old man!

 

because a young assassin with "crunchy ass" and "bouncing breasts" looks ten times better as a woman leader in heavy plate armor. you must cancel out a horse with a crane.

 

german \ deutsch !

 

nein nein , nicht nur junge männer , ich bin ein alter mann !

 

weil eine junge assassinin mit "knackigen arsch" und "prallen titten" zehn mal besser aussieht , wie eine frau in schwehrer plattenrüstung . die man mit einem kran auf ein pferd heben muß .

[gsguns]

''Regardless of popular belief, skimpy armors within this time-framed style is lore. Granted the various styles are not very lore friendly, but skimpy and nudity was actually used by celts and some other civilizations in conjunction with war paints when going into battle.

 

The same can be said about lore friendliness when it comes to full plate styled armor too. They were way to heavy, hot, and bulky to actually have been any use in true battles and were primarily used for ceremonies and other activities where hampered movement didn't really matter, like jousting.''

 

We're talking about Skyrim lore not real life history, there aren't any Celts or Gauls in Tamriel.

 

[Endiness]

All wrong. Less clothing means less work in both design and rigging. That's it.

[TheDriedFinger]

I'm gonna stick with "for immersion", as my personal reason. If you're running Niruin's Business Plan or my mod, then it's pretty important for immersion that the player's "employees" look visually appealing.

[Kaz Aanh]

I've always thought that there is a lack of interesting full-plate female armour designs. 

[Lodakai]

It really depends on your imagination and what you like to feed it.   People Include sex and skimpy armors for the same reason that comic books feature skintight clothing.. and why romance novels are popular.   It is not the visual representation itself.  As has been expressed in the other thread you alluded to, there is plenty of porn to be found on the internet.  But there is a big difference between porn (offering little in the way of sparking ones imagination) and artistic representation.

 

Immersion is not about being lore friendly or even realistic.  It is about being able to lose yourself in a thought, idea, situation, or event that you would either not normally be able to.. or that is outside the range of what you would normally do within reality.   People who would never take a flamethrower to a goat... would gladly torch one in skyrim because of the effect. 

 

There is, of course, another reason.  It just looks better to the person using it.  The female form can be digitally or artistically rendered and still be beautiful. It does not have to be real. 

 

edit: I should say the Human form.. there are some ladies and a few men who appreciate the structure of the male form as well.   

[gsguns]

All wrong. Less clothing means less work in both design and rigging. That's it.

You're talking about mesh modelling or real life tailoring?

[Suludi]

Besides, Celtic women didn't go into a fight naked. And women usually just don't run through the world killing people and exploring dungeons. There is nothing "medieval" or "immersive" about that.

 

In this case, I say screw it. I find most armour, robes and clothing in Skyrim hideously ugly, and the modded schoolgirl / porn actress stuff does nothing for me. So my current char runs around naked. Since she has a werewolf and a permanent fire atronach as followers and shifts to werewolf in a fight herself, it works quite well. Needless to say, I don't use Frostfall. The white stuff in the North doesn't bother her one bit. She's a pixel woman and doesn't know cold.

 

So why skimpy? Cause sexy.

[Veladarius]

Because I play in 3rd person all the time (Fallout and Oblivion too) and if I am going to be staring at my characters rear I may as well enjoy it. Everyone else is a bonus.

[Athenaa]

This is like asking about stripping at a strip club..

[winny257]

It really depends on your imagination and what you like to feed it.   People Include sex and skimpy armors for the same reason that comic books feature skintight clothing.. and why romance novels are popular.   It is not the visual representation itself.  As has been expressed in the other thread you alluded to, there is plenty of porn to be found on the internet.  But there is a big difference between porn (offering little in the way of sparking ones imagination) and artistic representation.

 

Immersion is not about being lore friendly or even realistic.  It is about being able to lose yourself in a thought, idea, situation, or event that you would either not normally be able to.. or that is outside the range of what you would normally do within reality.   People who would never take a flamethrower to a goat... would gladly torch one in skyrim because of the effect. 

 

There is, of course, another reason.  It just looks better to the person using it.  The female form can be digitally or artistically rendered and still be beautiful. It does not have to be real. 

 

edit: I should say the Human form.. there are some ladies and a few men who appreciate the structure of the male form as well.   

 

very well spoken!

[Mumin]

Well, men in short skirts (and a sensibly protected abdomen) have been quite common through history........but that's not terribly representative of the kinds of skimpy armor we can find here



Ironic side note:
One of the few rpgs I found sufficiently immersive and mature for unnecessary porn to be detrimental to the atmosphere was.....The Witcher Oversized boobs felt a bit unnecessary in games like Planescape Torment and Risen too.

[Nite_Star]

I love bounty tits, sexy butts and bush,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Oh and SEX,SEX,SEX,SEX...

[cornbreadtm]

...Because I'm a grown ass man and can do whatever the fuck I want...

[Ruskii420Sama]

Let me ask a question: Why do you give 2 fucks? I mean, I give less fucks than Tyler, the Creator gives about LeBron James Asshole tattoo, but I dont go around asking people why they like it... Just saying, they pick their shit, they post it, or keep it to their self. We have fun, we laugh, fap, play, cry, and come back looking for moar! God Damnit we love some tits, you must be homosexual if you dislike the sight of massive titties flopping down the stairs from the cload district of Whiterun...

[germ]

For me personally I just don't prefer them. It's stupid and unrealistic, I prefer realism in the games I play, I could care less about skyrims lore. In turth, I wish Skyrim was a different game, I wish it was a game set in the real world with real history. But since there is no single player rpg with mods out there like that I'm stuck in Skyrim. I like to download armors that are sexy, but not skimpy with only a thong and a top that's so skimpy it might as well not even be there.

 

It's one of the only downsides to using CBBE, all the armors are shitty unrealistic crap. There's only a few armors that are actually decent, where as with UNP there is tons of options. But I LIke bodyslide, I like being able to create the body the way I like it, so I'm stuck with CBBE. Yes I'm aware that UNP has a bodyslide mod, but it's not the same.

 

 

Edits

hands are froze up from training jeet kune do all day, effecting my typing.