[WIP] Skykids - Child races & other technical goodies - No more armor patcher! New CotS R2 Race!(6/22/15)

[en_hawk]

Well I'm glad to hear you got it working alright, I'm excited to see what you can come up with(as you already seem to be off to a better start than I am).

 

You know, for a while now I've been considering scooping up the old CotS and building it into a standalone module for SK what with it being abandoned and all, minus all the horrific technical errors, of course. I can't say I'm super keen on its base face morphs for use globally across all the vanilla races, as its really more fantasy oriented(and I'm personally not super keen on it in general). The textures are likely never going to be replaced(for the base races at least, the proposed CotS addon would likely use the CotS assets), as I've put far too much work into them and personally think their quality to be far above that of any of the other child mod assets I've come across. The face mesh on the other hand is wide open, same as the morphs. I appreciate your input and suggestions.

[Spyder Arachnid]

Well, here's something that I did. If you don't like, please feel free to say so.

 

I adjusted the face texture in Photoshop to be more smoother to match with the females, so it isn't so rough on the males while the females have the smoother look. I also adjusted the color of the skin tone, to give it more color so it wasn't so grey. And this is what I came up with.

 

(just a quick character I created for testing this)

 

 

 

 

 

Only problem is the body is rather glossy, compared to the face which is more flat. But I can work on that (hopefully) and see if I can change it to match more with the face.

 

But let me know what you think. Like I said, if you don't like it, I'll stick with the original textures and work off those.

[en_hawk]

Those look great! I was actually referring to the girl textures when I said I wasn't looking at changing, the males are wide open, and I really like what you've done with them. You seem to be running into the lower lip mouth mesh clipping issue people sometimes have, I actually made a fixed mouth mesh that doesn't have this issue that I've been meaning to post for ages now and just haven't gotten to. This guy should fix the problem. You'll obviously need to edit some strings in the file and then rename it for use on the males, but they're using female assets anyway so it should drop right in.

mouthhumanf.nif

[Spyder Arachnid]

Yeah I like the female textures, I think they are fine. It was just the male face texture that was bothering me the most lol. I attached it below so you can check it for yourself and stuff, and do whatever with it. Also threw in the recolors to the body and hands as well, so they will match up. Feel free to do whatever with it, I don't mind.

 

And thanks for the mouth fix! Was bugging me a bit lol. Only little detail is the glossy skin on the males, but it's not really a huge issue or anything. It still matches up fine. I'm not too worried about it at the moment.

 

WELL, now that all of that is taken care of, I should get started on this replacer now lol. Got Adara done, only 42 more to go!   lol

 

But thanks again for all the assistance. Greatly appreciate it. Will update when I get more done, and if I run into anymore issues.

[Spyder Arachnid]

Well so far everything is coming along well. Got several done now, still got a ways to go though lol.

 

Only issue I have run into is the eye color. For some reason they all have black irises. The eye color won't change. I've tried changing it via RaceMenu and CK, and nadda. It just gives me black irises (can still see the white and stuff, so it's not pure black eyes. Just black irises is all).

 

Other than that, everything else is just cherry!

 

Oh and here is the new male textures. I accidently packed up the wrong textures, instead of the altered ones.

new male textures.rar

[Spyder Arachnid]

Well, thought I'd upload what I have so far. Mind you, this is far from complete. It just covers 11 kids so far.

 

-Adara

-Agni

-Assur

-Aventus Arentino

-Babette

-Bottar

-Braith

-Britte

-Clinton Lylvieve

-Dagny

-Dorthe

 

Yes, I'm doing them in alphabetical order lol. Going to assume you'd want me to keep the DLC kids in seperate esps, so going to do that as well. Working on the vanilla ones at the moment, then will move onto the DLC ones. The males were made using those new textures, so it might look a bit off if you are still using the old ones.

 

Only requirements currently (well, not currently as it won't really change with the others lol) are the same requirements for SkyKids. Only difference is Apachii Hair and Oblivion Hair Pack are required as well, since all the kids wear those hairs now instead of the vanilla ones.

 

But give it a look over if you want, as I said, it's far from done at the moment. Just those 11 kids so far, but at least you'll get an idea. Still haven't figured out the eye issue, but it's a low priority at the moment as I am more focused on getting this done first before I go adjust little things like that.

Child Replacer.rar

[Rez Delnava]

Been a while since I've been able to pop in. Glad to see you're still maintaining things here, en_hawk.

I like the new faces for the guys, Spyder, thanks!

If the glossiness on the body is bothering you, I think thats controlled on the specular map (the _s one, i think). A quick adjustment with vibrance or brightness might lower the gloss.

 

One thing I've noticed when using nifmerge, is that it sometimes loses the tint mask links in the resulting nif. You'd need to restore them manually if it does (third to last slot in the terxtures block for the face, image attached for reference) It might be the the same issue causing your irises to go black.

[Spyder Arachnid]

Ah thanks Rez, I'll check that out.

 

Here is a new copy of the child replacer I've been working on. I had a derp moment and uploaded the old esp instead of the new updated one. It also has a few new ones in there too.

 

-Eirid

-Erith

-Fjotra

-Francois Beaufort

 

Hope this one works this time lol.

Child Replacer.rar

[ChipyChops]

Thanks for your work Spyder, look forward to more stuff.

[gvman3670]

I am using a slightly older version of SK. I actually just unzipped the [core] folder and inserted new textures in there. Since UNP textures work on these bodies I gave them FSC Univision sweaty textures (I don't like the sweaty specular now that I've seen it in game, though, so I'll change the _s.dds maps here in a bit). I do like the way the female SKs look with it.

 

 

 

 

 

My one issue from running this right now is that I need to run the armor patcher again (I had the mod uninstalled for some time).

[Spyder Arachnid]

Ran into one small snag. Helgi's Ghost.

 

Did everything the same as usual, but she shows up as a vanilla child, not a SkyKid. Guessing there is a different entry for her somewhere that I don't know about, but for some reason she won't change.

[en_hawk]

My one issue from running this right now is that I need to run the armor patcher again (I had the mod uninstalled for some time).

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

 

Ran into one small snag. Helgi's Ghost.

 

Did everything the same as usual, but she shows up as a vanilla child, not a SkyKid. Guessing there is a different entry for her somewhere that I don't know about, but for some reason she won't change.

Don't actually know on that one, never messed with her personally. Does the existing SK replacer handle her properly on your end?

[Spyder Arachnid]

Nevermind, I figured out the problem. I replaced Hrefna instead of Helgi. Got them mixed up lol.

 

But fixed it, and back on the treadmill again. Thanks.

[1angryDOLL]

Hey, long time lurker, first time poster. Just wanna say that this is looking pretty good and promising. I can't wait to see pics of the ghost girl. XD

[Spyder Arachnid]

2spooky4u

 

character creation version:

 

 

 

 

 

ghostly npc version:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update on progress: Got 4 more vanilla kids to do (Skuli, Sond, Svari, and Virkmund) then I'll move onto the 4 from Hearthfire and the 1 from Dragonborn and I'll be done!

 

Debating if I should make some fancy picture with them all on it so you can see them....

[gvman3670]

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

I was just saying that I need to run the armor patcher again. My SkyKids were all running around unclothed.

[gvman3670]

These are looking really good, Spyder. I'm digging the spooky ghost kid. Awesome.

[1angryDOLL]

Oh god, If I ran in to the character creation version in a dark cave I would cry while casting dual wards LoL. She looks great though.

[en_hawk]

2spooky4u

 

character creation version:

 

 

 

 

 

ghostly npc version:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update on progress: Got 4 more vanilla kids to do (Skuli, Sond, Svari, and Virkmund) then I'll move onto the 4 from Hearthfire and the 1 from Dragonborn and I'll be done!

 

Debating if I should make some fancy picture with them all on it so you can see them....

I really like how these are turning out, awesome work!

[Spyder Arachnid]

Annnnnnndddd...... it's finally finished. *throws confetti*

 

Was going to make some fancy post, with the title up top and some pictures and stuff, but I'm tired and want to get some sleep lol. Plus I would have to go and get my Skyrim all set up (install my mods and everything else) and then wander about for awhile taking pictures of all the kids. And like I said, I'm too tired for all that.

 

So rather anti-climatic, but here it is. Hope you guys like it.

 

The only requirements are:

 

-SkyKids and it's requirements

-Apachii Sky Hair (just the basic mod is fine. Doesn't require the extra hair packs)

-Oblivion Hair Pack (same as above. Just the main pack is fine. Doesn't require the additional stuff)

 

and that's it. Only one minor small issue, and that is the eyes. They all have dark eye colors. Couldn't figure out how to fix it, and it doesn't look bad or anything, so didn't want to bother with it and end up messing something else up in the process. If someone knows how to fix it, by all means go for it, I don't mind. Load order is the same as the original SkyKids child replacer. Just replace the names of the esps with the new ones is all and you should be all set to go.

 

The work is free use, so feel free to modify it or change it how you see fit. I don't mind. Just toss me a thanks is all I ask.

 

 

But there ya go. Hope you all enjoy it, and thanks to En Hawk for making such an awesome mod, who without all this, I wouldn't of even made this in the first place.

SkyKids - Child Replacer Alt.rar

[Kinky]

 

Debating if I should make some fancy picture with them all on it so you can see them....

 

Im looking for NPC replacer so pics would definately help to decide what to install.

 

[en_hawk]

 

Debating if I should make some fancy picture with them all on it so you can see them....

 

Im looking for NPC replacer so pics would definately help to decide what to install.

 

I could try and work on getting some screenshots later on, if Spyder is unable to. My skyrim is kind of a mess right now...

[Spyder Arachnid]

 

 

Debating if I should make some fancy picture with them all on it so you can see them....

 

Im looking for NPC replacer so pics would definately help to decide what to install.

 

 

 

Well I got a big ol' folder of all the pictures of each of them that I took to reference the hair and stuff. So I could always just upload that if you guys wanted. It's not the best of quality obviously, as it was taken in character creation so I could see what hair I was using on them.

 

But tomorrow after I get everything installed, I was planning on running around and getting pictures and just making a big ol' collage of all their faces. But if you scroll up and check some of my previous posts, you can get an idea of how some of them look. I have a few pictures I posted during my testing and progress stuff that you can see in my previous posts in this thread. It will give you a general idea at least till I get the main picture taken care of.

[ChipyChops]

Thanks Spyder, nice job!

[gvman3670]

Annnnnnndddd...... it's finally finished. *throws confetti*

 

Was going to make some fancy post, with the title up top and some pictures and stuff, but I'm tired and want to get some sleep lol. Plus I would have to go and get my Skyrim all set up (install my mods and everything else) and then wander about for awhile taking pictures of all the kids. And like I said, I'm too tired for all that.

 

So rather anti-climatic, but here it is. Hope you guys like it.

 

The only requirements are:

 

-SkyKids and it's requirements

-Apachii Sky Hair (just the basic mod is fine. Doesn't require the extra hair packs)

-Oblivion Hair Pack (same as above. Just the main pack is fine. Doesn't require the additional stuff)

 

and that's it. Only one minor small issue, and that is the eyes. They all have dark eye colors. Couldn't figure out how to fix it, and it doesn't look bad or anything, so didn't want to bother with it and end up messing something else up in the process. If someone knows how to fix it, by all means go for it, I don't mind. Load order is the same as the original SkyKids child replacer. Just replace the names of the esps with the new ones is all and you should be all set to go.

 

The work is free use, so feel free to modify it or change it how you see fit. I don't mind. Just toss me a thanks is all I ask.

 

 

But there ya go. Hope you all enjoy it, and thanks to En Hawk for making such an awesome mod, who without all this, I wouldn't of even made this in the first place.

Since I was using a very early version of SK, and I thought your kids looked great, I decided to redownload all the newest versions of what I needed to change out the vanilla potato heads. I made sure to get the requirements installed and the necessary files from the SK mod(s) to replace the heathens. So I installed them in MO, ran the Skyproc patcher, and used your .esp here that you uploaded.

 

Here is the result.

 

 

And here is the result with the regular child replacer .esp file, also placed in the same spot in my load order.

 

 

I've never seen anything like this before. I really do want to use your .esp since there are so many kids made over, and well done at that. So any ideas?

 

I didn't use BOSS. I got rid of it a while ago in favor of LOOT. And it seems to have worked fine with 20 kids I went to look at as long as I used the regular vanilla child replacer .esp file. So I am thinking it's something with yours.

 

Don't worry, I don't mind being a trouble shooter. My modding skills are almost nil so I like to help where I can.