[WIP] Skykids - Child races & other technical goodies - No more armor patcher! New CotS R2 Race!(6/22/15)

[Reiyichi]

Just tried out that new NPC replacer, and now Lucia is practically naked, with a boy's head... Any reason for this?

[en_hawk]

Just tried out that new NPC replacer, and now Lucia is practically naked, with a boy's head... Any reason for this?

Well she shouldn't be, you likely have something conflicting(causing her to not have any clothes, I guess?). Try selecting her in the console and typing 'resurrect', after you've made sure there aren't any conflicts(that will reset her inventory, hopefully giving her clothes).

 

I am hoping that you will be getting a patch out for Inconsequential NPC's fairly soon.

I'm bad at making faces, so... I mean I could do a down-and-dirty quick patch that just sets them to the SK racial defaults if all you want is them to not look like potatoes, but anything more involved than that would take a substantial time commitment, and there are other things on the list in front of it unfortunately.

[Reiyichi]

As to the being naked, I believe I forgot to install the armor pack, but as for having a boys head, I am stumped as to why Lucia would have a boy head instead of a girls head, unless the 'resurrect' trick will work on facegen data as well, I think it is a problem with the mod or the way I have it installed.

[en_hawk]

As to the being naked, I believe I forgot to install the armor pack, but as for having a boys head, I am stumped as to why Lucia would have a boy head instead of a girls head, unless the 'resurrect' trick will work on facegen data as well, I think it is a problem with the mod or the way I have it installed.

That's just the hairstyle she has, consult the screenshot I posted above.

[johann7124]

 

Just tried out that new NPC replacer, and now Lucia is practically naked, with a boy's head... Any reason for this?

Well she shouldn't be, you likely have something conflicting(causing her to not have any clothes, I guess?). Try selecting her in the console and typing 'resurrect', after you've made sure there aren't any conflicts(that will reset her inventory, hopefully giving her clothes).

enb 2014_05_07 06_39_13_51 copy.jpg

 

I am hoping that you will be getting a patch out for Inconsequential NPC's fairly soon.

I'm bad at making faces, so... I mean I could do a down-and-dirty quick patch that just sets them to the SK racial defaults if all you want is them to not look like potatoes, but anything more involved than that would take a substantial time commitment, and there are other things on the list in front of it unfortunately.

 

 

I decided to try out my hand on the quick and dirty patch myself, I am going to see how they look with default looks.

 

I even decided to see how Babette looks as a Skykid.

[Reiyichi]

 

As to the being naked, I believe I forgot to install the armor pack, but as for having a boys head, I am stumped as to why Lucia would have a boy head instead of a girls head, unless the 'resurrect' trick will work on facegen data as well, I think it is a problem with the mod or the way I have it installed.

That's just the hairstyle she has, consult the screenshot I posted above.

 

Whew, thanks, I thought I had messed up again... Now hopefully I can FINALLY finish Skyrim...

[DjangoMango]

I'm new to modding skyrim and I'm having some difficulty getting custom armor sets to work with skykids.  I've got the x117 set and the fox armors installed and I can get them to show up on adult characters but when I put them on child characters it shows that they're equipped and applies the stats but the armor itself is invisible on the character.  I've tried disabling pretty much all other mods I've got installed, aside from the skykids stuff and the armor mods, with no luck.  I even disabled the sk child armor swapper thinking maybe that was the cause but it didn't help.  Any ideas how I could get these armors to work with skykids?

 

Here's my current mod load order:

 

Skyrim esm
Update esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch esp
Dawnguard esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch esp
HearthFires esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch esp
Dragonborn esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch esp
ApachiiHair esm
ApachiiHairFemales esm
OblivionHairPackAIO esm
RaceCompatibility esm
fox_shop esm
HmmWhatToWear esm
Skykids esm
SK Monli Race esm
SK Drow Child Race esm
HighResTexturePack01 esp
HighResTexturePack02 esp
HighResTexturePack03 esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch esp
RaceMenu esp
RaceMenuPlugin esp
FoxMerged esp
monli preset1 esp
monli preset2 esp
monli preset3 esp
SK Vanilla Child Replacer esp
SK Vanilla Child Replacer HF esp
SK Vanilla Child Replacer DB esp
TheEyesOfBeauty esp
SK TheEyesOfBeauty esm
SK Lolydia esp
SK Child Armor Swapper esp
SK ApachiiHair esp
SK ApachiiHairFemales esp
SK OblivionHairPackAIO esp
x117set2 esp

[en_hawk]

I'm new to modding skyrim and I'm having some difficulty getting custom armor sets to work with skykids.  I've got the x117 set and the fox armors installed and I can get them to show up on adult characters but when I put them on child characters it shows that they're equipped and applies the stats but the armor itself is invisible on the character.  I've tried disabling pretty much all other mods I've got installed, aside from the skykids stuff and the armor mods, with no luck.  I even disabled the sk child armor swapper thinking maybe that was the cause but it didn't help.  Any ideas how I could get these armors to work with skykids?

 

Here's my current mod load order:

There may be other elements at play, but I'll go with the obvious one first; you have armor mods that aren't recognized by BOSS and are loading after the armor swapper esp. This is even covered, with a solution, in the FAQ section of the OP 'Armor mod X isn't working with the armor swapper:', read that first.

[DjangoMango]

 

There may be other elements at play, but I'll go with the obvious one first; you have armor mods that aren't recognized by BOSS and are loading after the armor swapper esp. This is even covered, with a solution, in the FAQ section of the OP 'Armor mod X isn't working with the armor swapper:', read that first.

 

 

I learned how to edit the BOSS userlist and got that stuff taken care of but it didn't fix the problem.  Turns out I needed to run the skyproc patcher again and that fixed it.  Thanks for the help!

[Guest Xxxxxxxx4688]

Awesome mod.

Looking forward to Babette.

 

Also are you going to make patches for mods like Interesting NPC's and Inconsequential NPC's that add a few kids to the game?

[color]

Hello en_hawk! Are you still working on Skykids?
It looks successful and near complete. I am interested on using it in other project.
 

[poodynosia]

Has anyone else ran into this issue? I have all plugins recognized by BOSS and did the proc thing... but the armor still dose not want to change for any of the races, the neck seem is still there.

[poodynosia]

I got BOsS to know where the plugins go, and uses the PROC thing. But skykids still wont fit in any of the armor.. Is there a Armor set they wear with there name on it, or should all armor work?

[en_hawk]

Hello en_hawk! Are you still working on Skykids?

It looks successful and near complete. I am interested on using it in other project.

Yes, I'm still working on it.

 

Has anyone else ran into this issue? I have all plugins recognized by BOSS and did the proc thing... but the armor still dose not want to change for any of the races, the neck seem is still there.

Post your load order, and your debug log located at 'skyrim\Data\SkyProc Patchers\SKArmorPatcher\SkyProcDebug\=--Debug Overview--=.txt'.

[poodynosia]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g3hs0vu7zoyv49u/%3D--Debug%20Overview--%3D.txt

 

 

How do I post load order? and do you mean the order of your mods or all of my mods?

[johann7124]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g3hs0vu7zoyv49u/%3D--Debug%20Overview--%3D.txt

 

 

How do I post load order? and do you mean the order of your mods or all of my mods?

 

He wants your load order for all mods.

 

Go into NMM, click on the plugins tab, on the left will be 6 "buttons", select the export your current load order and copy it to the clipboard.

 

Then paste it into a reply using the spoiler tags.

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

BBLuxurySuite.esm=1

LevelersTower.esm=1

GeneralStores.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

RCOTS-RACES.esm=1

MFVM.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

Bow Of Destruction.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

My Home Is Your Home.esp=1

Blades Light Armor Version 2 - v2.0.esp=1

WATER DG.esp=1

SexLab Cumshot.esp=1

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1

more plants all extra.esp=1

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1

NeutralHjerim.esp=1

AshenFollowers.esp=1

AshenFollowers - MFVM Patch.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

CraftableCloudStorage(GS).esp=1

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

CWINPCApachiiSkyHair.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RCOTS-Ellie.esp=1

BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp=1

MerethicSpells-Destruction-x2.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

BlacksmithGirl.esp=1

RCOTS-FriendChildren.esp=1

RCOTS-Aeta.esp=1

RCOTS-HostilesNPC.esp=1

RCOTS-followers.esp=1

Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1

RCOTS-Armorpack(english).esp=1

RCOTS-Morestuff.esp=1

Aspen Manor.esp=1

RichMerchants.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

WATER DB Waves.esp=1

Solitude A City Of Trade.esp=1

SexLab Romance.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

RCOTS-ApachiiHairPlugin.esp=1

RCOTS-ApachiiMaleHairPlugin.esp=1

CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp=1

WaterfallsHomeV4.esp=1

00TheSanctuary.esp=1

SkyfallEstate.esp=1

RedspireManor.esp=1

TheWhiteHouse.esp=1

klwRiftenHouse.esp=1

BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp=1

BBLSapachii.esp=1

increasedlootinchests1.0.esp=1

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp=1

Waterwalking.esp=1

better master spells.esp=1

TwilticManor.esp=1

BBLSVisitors.esp=1

BBLSGeneralStoresbyNatilde.esp=1

Equip more Rings (4).esp=1

SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

simple house4.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp=1

BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp=1

BBLSspouse.esp=1

skyhavenexteriormapmarker.esp=1

Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1

Thieves_Guild_for_Powerusers_2.esp=1

DawnstarSanctuaryExpanion.esp=1

septimsmithing.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp=1

WhiterunInEnhanced.esp=1

RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp=1

TAVEWindhelm.esp=1

TAVESolitude.esp=1

TAVERiften.esp=1

MLLY - MAIN HF.esp=1

MLLY - FEMALE HF.esp=0

MLLY- Mini-Mannequins.esp=0

MLLY - RESET HF.esp=0

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

 

 

[poodynosia]

Okay figured out how to use Tags lol and thank you for your reply.

 

 

 

 

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
DynamicLoot.esm=1
Skykids.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
BLEED.esp=1
Hunterborn.esp=1
Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
DrSKnapsacks.esp=1
duskguardamulet.esp=1
DynamicLoot_DB.esp=1
DynamicLoot_DG.esp=1
mmmoveablesachel.esp=1
SkyRe_Main.esp=1
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp=1
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp=1
riversidelodge.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
xvisionchildren.esp=1
YChildren of the Sky.esp=1
SK Vanilla Child Replacer.esp=1
SK Vanilla Child Replacer HF.esp=1
SK Vanilla Child Replacer DB.esp=1
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp=1
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
fortifyenchantment.esp=1
Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1
UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp=1
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp=1
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp=1
skyrim unbound.esp=1
DeadlyMutilation.esp=1
RealShelter.esp=1
Purewaters.esp=1
RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp=1
ReProccer.esp=1
SK Child Armor Swapper.esp=1
vampire mage robes.esp=1
X117 Male Pack.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1

 

[color]

 

Yes, I'm still working on it.

 

Good. All the best.

 

1) What about making children of different ages? (In this version there are teens, may be will be good to add children of 7-10 age)

2) Will be mods, which add more children in really small for middle-age society vanilla Skyrim families?

3) Do you planning to publish it on Nexus or something?

[poodynosia]

okay this is odd, the Armor Proc only works for females?  I did a sex change and there was no lines on the neck, I thought it was for all genders.

[Spyder Arachnid]

okay this is odd, the Armor Proc only works for females?  I did a sex change and there was no lines on the neck, I thought it was for all genders.

 

I'm going to take a guess, and say you are trying to wear your x117 armors for males on your male SkyKid right? From looking at your load order, the patcher is not recognizing the mod, thus why it is not showing up.

 

I answered your problem in your other thread, but guess you missed it. You need to add your unrecognized mods to your BOSS userlist. This way the patcher will recognize them and add them to the patch. Then your male can wear the armors.

 

 

But if you don't do that (add your unrecognized mods to your userlist so they get recognized), then they won't work.

[poodynosia]

 

okay this is odd, the Armor Proc only works for females?  I did a sex change and there was no lines on the neck, I thought it was for all genders.

 

I'm going to take a guess, and say you are trying to wear your x117 armors for males on your male SkyKid right? From looking at your load order, the patcher is not recognizing the mod, thus why it is not showing up.

 

I answered your problem in your other thread, but guess you missed it. You need to add your unrecognized mods to your BOSS userlist. This way the patcher will recognize them and add them to the patch. Then your male can wear the armors.

 

 

But if you don't do that (add your unrecognized mods to your userlist so they get recognized), then they won't work.

 

No I was wearing clothing that comes with non modded skyrim, on male skykids.. I noticed only the female skykids can wear vanilla  clothing where males can not.

 

I also placed all mods in the User rules.

[en_hawk]

 

Yes, I'm still working on it.

 

Good. All the best.

 

1) What about making children of different ages? (In this version there are teens, may be will be good to add children of 7-10 age)

2) Will be mods, which add more children in really small for middle-age society vanilla Skyrim families?

3) Do you planning to publish it on Nexus or something?

 

1. Multiple age ranges are going to be a thing, yes, though the present age group is not supposed to be the teens. If you want a younger look, at least for the females, try grabbing the female skeleton out of the monli addon and replacing the normal skykids one with it, it adjusts the proportions in an attempt to get a younger look.

2. I'm not sure I understand you entirely, do you mean adding extra child NPCs to the game in random locations/families? If so, probably not officially, though I welcome anyone who wishes to do so of their own accord.

3. Not a chance, I can't stand the nexus. If someone else wants to volunteer to wade through the filth that is required to run something over there, then maybe, but I'm personally not going anywhere near that place.

 

 

 

okay this is odd, the Armor Proc only works for females?  I did a sex change and there was no lines on the neck, I thought it was for all genders.

 

I'm going to take a guess, and say you are trying to wear your x117 armors for males on your male SkyKid right? From looking at your load order, the patcher is not recognizing the mod, thus why it is not showing up.

 

I answered your problem in your other thread, but guess you missed it. You need to add your unrecognized mods to your BOSS userlist. This way the patcher will recognize them and add them to the patch. Then your male can wear the armors.

 

 

But if you don't do that (add your unrecognized mods to your userlist so they get recognized), then they won't work.

 

No I was wearing clothing that comes with non modded skyrim, on male skykids.. I noticed only the female skykids can wear vanilla  clothing where males can not.

 

I also placed all mods in the User rules.

 

Well like Spyder said, your armor mods need to be properly sorted above the armor swapper esp in order to get patched. Additionally, if they were not being patched you would simply appear naked vs having a seam. All the vanilla clothing and equipment has been converted and is provided in the armor pack, and comes without seams. The only issue I can think of is the x117 male pack in your load order, as it is designed for a different male body with a different UV, which will cause problems(in that case you would have to look into using our alternate male body, which uses the female UV like the x117 male body does).

 

If you're still having trouble, post some screenshots along with the exact equipment that isn't working.

[poodynosia]

 

 

Yes, I'm still working on it.

 

Good. All the best.

 

1) What about making children of different ages? (In this version there are teens, may be will be good to add children of 7-10 age)

2) Will be mods, which add more children in really small for middle-age society vanilla Skyrim families?

3) Do you planning to publish it on Nexus or something?

 

1. Multiple age ranges are going to be a thing, yes, though the present age group is not supposed to be the teens. If you want a younger look, at least for the females, try grabbing the female skeleton out of the monli addon and replacing the normal skykids one with it, it adjusts the proportions in an attempt to get a younger look.

2. I'm not sure I understand you entirely, do you mean adding extra child NPCs to the game in random locations/families? If so, probably not officially, though I welcome anyone who wishes to do so of their own accord.

3. Not a chance, I can't stand the nexus. If someone else wants to volunteer to wade through the filth that is required to run something over there, then maybe, but I'm personally not going anywhere near that place.

 

 

 

okay this is odd, the Armor Proc only works for females?  I did a sex change and there was no lines on the neck, I thought it was for all genders.

 

I'm going to take a guess, and say you are trying to wear your x117 armors for males on your male SkyKid right? From looking at your load order, the patcher is not recognizing the mod, thus why it is not showing up.

 

I answered your problem in your other thread, but guess you missed it. You need to add your unrecognized mods to your BOSS userlist. This way the patcher will recognize them and add them to the patch. Then your male can wear the armors.

 

 

But if you don't do that (add your unrecognized mods to your userlist so they get recognized), then they won't work.

 

No I was wearing clothing that comes with non modded skyrim, on male skykids.. I noticed only the female skykids can wear vanilla  clothing where males can not.

 

I also placed all mods in the User rules.

 

Well like Spyder said, your armor mods need to be properly sorted above the armor swapper esp in order to get patched. Additionally, if they were not being patched you would simply appear naked vs having a seam. All the vanilla clothing and equipment has been converted and is provided in the armor pack, and comes without seams. The only issue I can think of is the x117 male pack in your load order, as it is designed for a different male body with a different UV, which will cause problems(in that case you would have to look into using our alternate male body, which uses the female UV like the x117 male body does).

 

If you're still having trouble, post some screenshots along with the exact equipment that isn't working.

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I do not see how X117 would interfere with Skykids body, they have there own folder but oddly x117 female seems to fit in the clothing I was placing her in, but when i change to male it dose not show it fitting, my guy is never nude.. so I would believe I got the order right?

 

I will throw in the alternate body to see if things will start working.

 

 

(( Okay yes just tested it the alternate body is what was needed for it to work for skykids, could i use that body to replace x117 so I dont have to restart my play file?))

[en_hawk]

I do not see how X117 would interfere with Skykids body, they have there own folder but oddly x117 female seems to fit in the clothing I was placing her in, but when i change to male it dose not show it fitting, my guy is never nude.. so I would believe I got the order right?

 

I will throw in the alternate body to see if things will start working.

 

 

(( Okay yes just tested it the alternate body is what was needed for it to work for skykids, could i use that body to replace x117 so I dont have to restart my play file?))

Yes, you can switch the body and armor meshes out mid playthrough without issue.

[DjangoMango]

I'm trying to create a teen character and I'm wondering, is there any way to alter the skykids body to give them breasts?  I noticed in your file "girl body assets" (that seems unavailable here on LL) that there is a teen skeleton and textures.  I attempted replacing the normal skykids female skeleton and textures with what was in that file, and while the texture seemed to work, the breast size stayed flat (I did read that those files are modders resources, I just don't know how to go about using them.)  There are sliders for the breasts in the character creation screen that don't seem to work, I'm not sure if those are from skykids or from one of its required mods, but it would be nice to be able to use those.