Gotta Buy A New PC

[reaper9789]

8 hours ago, Varithina said:

I would never buy a new PC just to play a specific game, my buy a new PC cycle tends to run on a 5/6 year cycle, and it just so happens I bought a new one a month or so before starfield was released.

 

As for build/buy I used to build but to be honest, it was a pain in the butt to do so, having to find the space and time to build it, sort out problems if/when they happened, get part way through it and find out I forgot something, then having to wait till that arrived before I could complete the build. 

 

The last two I bought from a custom build place, you basically go onto their website, pick intel/amd as the base, then pick your rough budget, then get a big list of options, so mb, memory etc, the start of with defaults at the bottom of your chosen budged, and next to each item is a drop down menu, where you can update, the total price with and without vat (in the uk here) automatically updates each time you change something, you can add multiple hdd or ssd, and you pretty much pick the parts you want, get to the bottom then choose, delivery and if you want quicker build options, there next page then tells you if there are any problems with your build, eg the graphics card needing 1000 watts when you only placed a 800 watt one in the build, then you finalise and order, so much easier than messing around with connectors, cables and then installing windows and drivers, and the place I picked the base build cost was trivial amounts compared to how much the actual pc cost me, and that was an eye opener, pretty much double what my previous one cost me.

I really enjoy building computers. Its super easy and fun IMO. This one has been built over the years to be what it currently is.
It has a Ryzen 9 7950x, an RX 6900XT, 32bg of ram and a total of 8 drives. 4 m.2 gen 4 drives and 4 random ssd drives.
I did all the water cooling myself, including removing the stock air cooler on the gpu and adding the water block.
But I unerstand not many people want to go down that route. Its just fun for me, Ive built myself at least 4 pc's over the years, and built my kids several as well.

[Varithina]

8 hours ago, reaper9789 said:

I really enjoy building computers. Its super easy and fun IMO. This one has been built over the years to be what it currently is.
It has a Ryzen 9 7950x, an RX 6900XT, 32bg of ram and a total of 8 drives. 4 m.2 gen 4 drives and 4 random ssd drives.
I did all the water cooling myself, including removing the stock air cooler on the gpu and adding the water block.
But I unerstand not many people want to go down that route. Its just fun for me, Ive built myself at least 4 pc's over the years, and built my kids several as well.

 

 

Where as I do not care what the insides of my PC looks like, as I always buy or choose solid sided cases, coloured lights or tubing are a complete waste of time to me and I would never bother with them.  And I have previously built myself about 7 or 8 PC's I just can no longer be bothered, I can think of better things to do with those hours than spend them building a new PC.

[DocClox]

17 hours ago, Varithina said:

 

PC Specialist https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/

 

Thanks. I'll give them a look. I'm due a new build.

[Varithina]

10 hours ago, DocClox said:

 

Thanks. I'll give them a look. I'm due a new build.

 

I had not intended to buy a new PC just yet, but constantly getting windows telling me to reboot to fix my drives, and then after spending 40-50 minutes supposedly doing that, and then within about ten minutes of rebooting getting the same message pop up again, kinda made me go eep, last thing I wanted was for it to completely die on me that would be a pain, so I ordered it for delivery when I was on my last holiday, glad I did to be honest, I was using a docking bay on my new pc and about 50% of the files I wanted to transfer won't so it looks like all the hdd, in my old pc were getting ready to die or at least had major issues with them.

 

The only odd thing I found about pc specialist, is that they are strictly monday to friday work days, they are closed saturday and sunday, kind of surprised me they did not do at least some tech support on saturday morning at least.

Edited September 29, 2023 by Varithina

[reaper9789]

On 9/29/2023 at 1:09 AM, Varithina said:

 

Where as I do not care what the insides of my PC looks like, as I always buy or choose solid sided cases, coloured lights or tubing are a complete waste of time to me and I would never bother with them.  And I have previously built myself about 7 or 8 PC's I just can no longer be bothered, I can think of better things to do with those hours than spend them building a new PC.

You would hate this case then, it has glass on every side including the top lol. It probably weighs in at 80lbs. The glass has a really dark tint.
I used clear tubing and colored fluid, which was a huge mistake, it gums up everything. It now just has clear fluid.
I built this one over 2.5 years, so it helps out for the cost, got the gpu back when the prices were insane. Then got a case and cooling last year. Then this year I added a new mobo, cpu, and memory. I use it for work, so i write everything off.

[Varithina]

3 hours ago, reaper9789 said:

You would hate this case then, it has glass on every side including the top lol. It probably weighs in at 80lbs. The glass has a really dark tint.
I used clear tubing and colored fluid, which was a huge mistake, it gums up everything. It now just has clear fluid.
I built this one over 2.5 years, so it helps out for the cost, got the gpu back when the prices were insane. Then got a case and cooling last year. Then this year I added a new mobo, cpu, and memory. I use it for work, so i write everything off.

 

I do not dislike cases that have transparent sides, I just tend not to look at them, well not unless the other things I want from a case are there, in which case price will be what I look at, as for all the glowy lights stuff, well my case sits in such a way that you can not see either the side or the back of it, and of course all those glowy lights cost you money, sure it is usually not much but they do cost more.

Edited October 1, 2023 by Varithina

[coolfreaky]

I do not get it when i see glass cases and lightened component neither : it is nice to see for once .

For me it is just a silent black case with fans , hope for silent if not it would finish inside an other box for less noises . 

Also i am a game addict that can now play after years of privation. And to worsen things i will use this PC just for a little of word and excel may be power point ( work stuff ) and a lot for gaming !!! (fun stuff ) . 

And as  reaper9789  did ; i will evolve my PC component by component as i can ( for Starfield , Elder Scroll VI , etc .... )

[Bluegunk]

When I retired 6 years ago I treated myself to a powerful gaming rig. It was a lovely piece of kit built for me by the UK PC Specialist company.  i9 10900 processor, ROG Rampage motherboard, buckets of memory and....a 2080ti 11GB.

 

Oh.  I can upgrade the 2080, but I'd need a new power box, and I'm not sure the system can cool enough to handle a 4080/4090 equivalent.  ?

Edited October 3, 2023 by Bluegunk

[Varithina]

1 hour ago, Bluegunk said:

When I retired 6 years ago I treated myself to a powerful gaming rig. It was a lovely piece of kit built for me by the UK PC Specialist company.  i9 10900 processor, ROG Rampage motherboard, buckets of memory and....a 2080ti 11GB.

 

Oh.  I can upgrade the 2080, but I'd need a new power box, and I'm not sure the system can cool enough to handle a 4080/4090 equivalent.  ?

 

If you have one of those sealed plug and play liquid coolers on your processor it probably will, unless you have a tiny case, though pc specialist do do upgrades to their systems, so it could be worth while contacting them and asking about what you want to do and if they think your old system would have any problems, though with the changes in gaming and pc, it might if you can afford it be better to in effect buy a complete new base unit, and just keep using your existing screen/mouse etc, it is pretty much the way I do things, I have a 28" screen I bought a couple of years ago, it will not get replaced unless it breaks or something changes in my setup that makes it not work correctly.

 

 

[Bluegunk]

35 minutes ago, Varithina said:

 

If you have one of those sealed plug and play liquid coolers on your processor it probably will,

Thanks for your nice reply. I do have the above - a Corsair.  I looked at PC Specialist's upgrade pages, but never thought to contact them in person. I think I'll try that.  If I bought a new base I'd keep the peripherals. I don't want to part with my ROG true HDR 21:9 screen!!

[nIn nIn nIn]

8 hours ago, Bluegunk said:

Thanks for your nice reply. I do have the above - a Corsair.  I looked at PC Specialist's upgrade pages, but never thought to contact them in person. I think I'll try that.  If I bought a new base I'd keep the peripherals. I don't want to part with my ROG true HDR 21:9 screen!!

 

6 years is a good run for a gaming rig. I agree with Varithina - replace the base system with up to date hardware. Bare in mind the 14th gen Intel CPU's are just around the corner. If you decide on 13th gen, the I7-13700K is the sweet spot. I would also avoid the 4090 graphics cards, primarily due to the cost as well as the melting power sockets. If you are building primarily for Starfield, go with the AMD 7900XTX offering instead. Much cheaper, gets the same FPS as the 4090's and uses the good old reliable 2 x 8 pin power cables.

[reaper9789]

On 10/2/2023 at 10:52 AM, coolfreaky said:

I do not get it when i see glass cases and lightened component neither : it is nice to see for once .

For me it is just a silent black case with fans , hope for silent if not it would finish inside an other box for less noises . 

Also i am a game addict that can now play after years of privation. And to worsen things i will use this PC just for a little of word and excel may be power point ( work stuff ) and a lot for gaming !!! (fun stuff ) . 

And as  reaper9789  did ; i will evolve my PC component by component as i can ( for Starfield , Elder Scroll VI , etc .... )

I never thought I would have rbg lighting. It always seemed stupid to me. But now, I actually enjoy it. Im 37 and have kids 18 and 16, they all play pc games, so when their friends come over, they are blown away by how my PC looks. Despite having 8 fans, its by far the quietest computer ive ever had, (which was the goal of the build). I just enjoy building. I dont know if you guys know about tig welding, but I bought a welder and learned, just so I could build a double walled, water cooled turbo kit for a jet ski out of stainless steel. I like building things. Not sure if anyone cares, just sharing for fun.

[Bluegunk]

9 hours ago, nIn nIn nIn said:

If you are building primarily for Starfield, go with the AMD 7900XTX offering instead

Many thanks for your advice!

I prefer to stick with NVidia due to being a Skyrim player. ENB works best on Nvidia, as Boris Vorontsov built it on that architecture.  The 4090 is expensive and I see a lot of arguments around series 3 and 4 not showing much difference in output. Hmm.

 

 

[DocClox]

16 minutes ago, Bluegunk said:

Many thanks for your advice!

I prefer to stick with NVidia due to being a Skyrim player. ENB works best on Nvidia, as Boris Vorontsov built it on that architecture.  The 4090 is expensive and I see a lot of arguments around series 3 and 4 not showing much difference in output. Hmm.

 

I must admit, as a long time NVidia loyalist, I'm very much considering switching camps for Starfield, Like you say, the 4090 offers very little gain at a heft price hike, and AMD cards seem to offer a lot more VRAM than the equivalent NVidia cards.

 

The fact that NVidia still haven't got Starfield capable Linux drivers is not influencing my opinion in the slightest. (well maybe a tiny bit )

 

[Bluegunk]

2 hours ago, DocClox said:

AMD cards seem to offer a lot more VRAM than the equivalent NVidia cards

I have to confess I have had some bad experiences with AMD graphics cards in the past. I had to throw the last one out and replaced it with a Nvidia 980 (at the time). The difference in performance and graphics sold me into Nvidia slavery!  So...maybe I'm out of date and biased.  ?

[coolfreaky]

11 hours ago, reaper9789 said:

Not sure if anyone cares, just sharing for fun

I am sure people does care and often likes to look at the result pic . 

 

40 minutes ago, Bluegunk said:

I have had some bad experiences with AMD

 

I had also a bad experience with AMD and i am generally sticking with Nvidia .

-Need to consider that AMD is an exclusif partner to starfield .

-Also that AMD is performing better and better in graphic cards .

-And last AMD is cheaper .

 

Also if you choose Nvidia 4090 look at the size of it ( it needs to fit in the case ) ! 

for the power supply as said above get advised but for me you might as well change it ( for best performance ,and modular ) .

[ShivasBane]

I built an Intel 3930k with a P9X79 Pro mobo, 16Gb Ram, liquid cooling, and originally a GTX 680 which has since been replaced with a 1660ti. It also has 2 hdd's and 2 ssd's for a grand total of over 7 Tb of storage. I built this thing over 10 years ago and it can still run Starfield on ultra settings with the shadows turned down a little at 1080p. I use a 55 inch TV as my main monitor and a 27 inch secondary. It can run Starfield on the main and stream videos on the secondary at the same time. While there is the occasional bit of screen tearing the game is easily playable on ultra settings. In testing the CPU usage was 41% while GPU usage was 97%. I would like to upgrade the GPU and RAM but that is just not possible unless I win the lottery.

[Pinute]

On 9/26/2023 at 2:20 AM, Eradoras said:

 Very interesting !  Is it really working well ?  any more experiences to share?

The game feels like it's on my local machine with both services. Nvidia runs smooth as you'd expect and looks as great as you'd expect with a 4080. For Shadow, think very good cpu with about a 3070 gpu. As usual it's all about balancing gameplay, framerate, and appearance, but on the upside I've got access to MO2 and SFSE with DLSS which gives me a very acceptable mix. For me Shadow wins the overall title.