nafeasonto Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 I got it pretty stable by cleaning every master file, except the main Skyrim.esm. I even cleaned the update.esm. It was defintely more stable. But Skyrim in and of itself, is very unstable. If you can get at least 3 hours of play without crashing or Freezing, that's pretty normal. The game needs to be restarted every 3 hours or so. It just starts getting unstable for no reason. But that's just the way the engine is. If you are crashing a LOT without even an hour in, there is something with one of your mods or configuration of Skyrim settings. Bad scripts, missing scripts, invalid papyrus settings, etc etc.
Hayleyrose2323 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Well I am happy to say my skyrim is very stable. I solved any crazy errors and CTD's using over 100 mods too.Ive used less mods than that and have had many issues so not sure what i did differently this time around but hey im not complaining. It used to be so bad that I haven't been able to get far into skyrim so now that i am able im having a blast!
DeepBlueFrog Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 A few tips I learned to get a fairly stable Skyrim: 1- Use a solid state drive if you can. A large amount of crashes come from accessing the drive for textures, meshes and sounds. Make this part as quickly as possible. 2- Use a video card with a large amount of VRAM (1 or 2 Gb). All those textures have to go somewhere 3- Pick your battles and chose high res textures only for what is absolutely necessary. I run with a very low resolution rock texture since rocks are used everywhere and I don't really care to see individual cracks on every single rock. 4- Avoid SKSE mods if possible. If you can't avoid them, save often and use a blank save to jumpstart your game. 5- Make regular backups of your whole Skyrim folder - you may have to revert back to an earlier stable state if you mess around with mods too much. 6- Inject new mods or updates to mods one at a time, so you will have a sense of what is causing crashes if your game suddenly starts acting out.
Guest Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 Well I am happy to say my skyrim is very stable. I solved any crazy errors and CTD's using over 100 mods too.Ive used less mods than that and have had many issues so not sure what i did differently this time around but hey im not complaining. It used to be so bad that I haven't been able to get far into skyrim so now that i am able im having a blast! What is the load order you use and have such stability?I made a recent thread asking for suggestions here hoping for more stability ( http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22426-seeking-advice-before-starting-again-a-new-playthrough-stability/ ) Is it comparable to mine?
Rayblue Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 4- Avoid SKSE mods if possible. If you can't avoid them, save often and use a blank save to jumpstart your game. Not all SKSE mods are bad; it's a matter of the modder who should produce and test stable code. SkyUI and iHud are the reasons why I use SKSE.
DeepBlueFrog Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 4- Avoid SKSE mods if possible. If you can't avoid them, save often and use a blank save to jumpstart your game. Not all SKSE mods are bad; it's a matter of the modder who should produce and test stable code. SkyUI and iHud are the reasons why I use SKSE. Oh I completely agree... what I meant is that I have a *very* stable skyrim until I started tinkering with SKSE plugins. But since I have no clue about which script is causing crashes, it is just a hunch at this time. It could also be completely unrelated to SKSE and started happening around the same time I tried them out. SKSE is fundamental to some of the best mods around. I wouldn't trade it for anything else
ThatGuyJonus Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Another thing to keep in mind is Bethesda engines hate two things frame rates over 60 and overclocks. In my experience an over clock that may be stable for everything else in your game library will cause skyrim/fallout etc to up and iimpload.strongly suggest testing with a default clock if your an over clocked if nothing else seems to work.
hryh23k9823u Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 I comitted the mistake of nuking my skyrim installation and start all over even when I was sure I did everything right and sudently got CDTs. CDTs doesnt mean at all your savegame is corrupted. A savegame is only corrupted if and when the game clearly states 'this savegame is corrupted and won't open', other than that, its mostly memory problems, or bloating, or bad mesh/skeleton compatibility, or a etc., etc. Memory problems can be easily solved aswell as bloating issues once you identify the plugin, do some clean through papyrus data transfer, savegame cleaner, and such, and continue with your conflicting plugins removed. Yeah, you'll have a dirty save, but a very stable one, I don't quite understand the obsession for 'clean saves'; nor dirty saves have anything to do with corrupted or not corrupted save, nor 'clean saves' has anything to do with game stability. Of course its better following some stepts, keeping backups, but if you're walkthroughed 10 quests and 20 dungeons and suddently you find a plugin burning your savegame, it's preferably keep in calm, do some cleaning here and there and continue. Btw my current stable loadorder Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ApachiiHair.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm HentaiPregnancy.esm SGHairPackBase.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp Dark NightsB.esp Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp LoversComfort.esp MF_RadiantProstitution.esp SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp SkyUI.esp iHUD.esp Cloaks.esp FlameAtronachArmor.esp FullBootForKKSA.esp Lady of Death.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp TERAArmors_CBBE.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp SDpatch - dawnguard.esp SDpatch - dragonborn.esp SDpatch - frostfall.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp CutthroatMerchantsHard.esp Headtracking.esp LiFEv1.1.esp mjhReducedGoldRewards.esp HPSoulGemBirth.esp SexLab Romance.esp SexLab Submit.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp Sit Anywhere.esp SGHairPack06.esp SGHairPack05.esp SGHairPack04.esp SG Hair 220 AllinTwo.esp SGHairPack01.esp SGHairPack03.esp SGHairPack02.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp navetsea female face preset.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp Basvanbeu MuscleTextureChanger with Navetsea set.esp CharGen Morphs.esp CharGen ECE Morphs.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Guest Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Two Recent thingies: One, The screen goes very black before a CTD. Like maybe, I'm walking along, Blackness ensues, and the desktop appears. Before, CTD's would happen a lot quicker; I'm not complaining, it's as if the film broke and the theater goes dark, which is better than ordinary crashes. Two, ten minutes ago, those rotating doors in Potema's catacombs have a very distinctive sound, the kind you'd hear in a sadistic tomb somewhere in an Indiana jones movie. So, the sound plays everywhere now. In the palace, In the Halfmoon Mill, It's haunting me. I googled it but apparently this is unique, Or I didn't read enough posts yet. Apologies in advance, This is not a helpful reply, unless you're googling these problems 6 months from now. If I had to guess, and I do, My scripts have gotten so massive and plentiful the game has trouble carrying on.
Luna_Natsume Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I am absolutely the WORST type of mod user you can possibly imagine. I download indiscriminately, install dirty mods, slap conflicting mods together, don't back up my saves/files, probably install in the incorrect order... name it, I have probably done it. However, I usually run a pretty stable game, up until about level 30+ and I begin to run into a few crashes here and there. I keep going, just ignoring and reloading and saving every couple of minutes or so. I keep crashing, and crashing... soon I give up and scrap the save, and start another from the very beginning. Funny thing is... I have installed mods CORRECTLY, in the CORRECT ORDER, and fixed the dirty edits, and downloaded various crash protection mods, and unofficial patches, and spent 40+ hours of crash free game play, only to end up with the same result. Crashity crash crash. I honestly don't think it's reasonable to assume that you will EVER have a fully stable Skyrim... perfect mods or not... it's just how the game is.
Guest Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Modding Skyrim is like having unprotected sex. It might feel good riding bareback, especially when you've had a few Smirnoffs. But sooner or later you're going to get a nasty CTD. All it takes is one single slip up and you can find yourself with a bun in the oven and on a one-way Greyhound to Crash City. Translation for the teetotal virgins among us - the only real recipe for a relatively trouble free long term save is to firmly establish a load order of mods that are well proven to be tickety-boo, and that means everything that's been remotely iffy in the past is ruthlessly thrown overboard regardless of how essential it might seem. No swapping out or modifying at all at any point in the playthrough, just an inert load order of solid mods with a proven history of stability. And even that's no guarantee the engine won't just shake itself to bits anyway. Entropy's a bitch.
Epic Gamer Frey Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 My Skyrim is stable... For now.... 50 hours played on my current character. mods installed and uninstalled mid-game. I'm using the Civil War Overhaul and fortunately I'm having no problems this time. But.... something might just happen at any time and fuck the save up.
Guest Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 My Skyrim is stable... For now.... 50 hours played on my current character. mods installed and uninstalled mid-game. I'm using the Civil War Overhaul and fortunately I'm having no problems this time. But.... something might just happen at any time and fuck the save up. There's always one.... edit: I'm not being horrible btw GV, but whenever this subject comes up someone inevitably says "I do lots of shit and I don't CTD". Maybe you're in a slim majority for all I know. I Doubt it though.
wulfgear09 Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I hardly ever ctd maybe once every 8 hours of continuous play ( i know get a life) but... loading games can be a bit prickly . if a save wont load i go to a new chr creation and once the game loads in go to the save load and presto i am in. according to my pap its mostly frostfall slugging it out with my cpu. Frostfall causes me grief but it is still one of my favorite mods.
Epic Gamer Frey Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 There's always one.... I've had a PC since Jan 31st 2104 and been modding Skyrim since the day I got it. The game was never "stable" for me until december 2014. But then I did some of the Civil War (Was using the previous version of the CWO) And the save started to mess up once I did the battle for Whiterun. quests breaking, dialogue boxes not showing and some other stuff, but rarely getting CTDs. Then the CWO updated, I started new game with the updated version and this time things are stable. I've got far in the war this time (just got the battle for Solitude to do) and things are looking fine. I've got a feeling I'll finish the war with no problems, then I'll continue with the MQ and the save will corrupt before I finish it. And IF that happens, I'll probably give up on playing as Valenira. Would have probably given up on modding Skyrim if I still used NMM. Mod Organizer is just soooo sexy! Edit: I didn't see your post as horrible. I know what you mean. Thing is, my game looks stable, but I do know the game could just mess up at any time. Also, I never used to be able to Alt-Tab in and out of it, but I have been able to for a few weeks now.
Supreme_pop@yahoo.com Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I currently have the max esms / esps allowed by skyrim (244). Though stacked upon one another mods in general, I'd say roughly around 300-400 (or more). Skyrim itself on my PC is probably around 50+ gigs. I only recently started getting CTDs, but what sucks is that my most recent file is seriously bugged in which I cannot remove vampirism/ can't feed / get attacked by everything in a 100ft radius. Even with save cleaning and such / console commands/ race changing / cure disease / statues. (but this is why we use backup saves losing an hour / days worth of content). Point being, mine seems to be pretty stable and resilient. You may want to try some unnofficial patches (I just recently got), or save cleaning / wyre bask / boss etc. they work wonders, and with my 300+ hours on hand in skyrim (mostly loitering / trying new characters / searching for random followers before i learned to properly use the console command to summon them/ new clothing mods / random dungeons), I don't really have many issues. Although after getting the RCOTs / interesting npcs / other overlapping mods I have been getting an issue with characters not wearing clothing but script resetting helps that. (though progress will be lost in the process).
FauxFurry Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 After months of trial and error,my Skyrim finally attained a state of perfectly stability...but then the hardware failed. I'll try to run the same set up of stability enhancing mods on a new installment on the PC that I'm slowly futzing around with constructing ever so carefully at this very moment then I can be sure whether or not it was merely a fluke or not.
Guest Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 Would have probably given up on modding Skyrim if I still used NMM. Mod Organizer is just soooo sexy! Yeah same here, when I moved to MO it was the last chance saloon for Skyrim, I was just about a spent force at that point.
AgendaDysphoria Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 I keep adding mods as I play. I'm currently at 380 mods and surprisingly, I almost never CTD. I use Perkus Maximus and all
KumamonTheWorshiper Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 200+ esps I never check for mod confllcts. At all. Using quality enb for gameplay 100% of the time. With a not-so-high-end pc. Only crash 1-3 times per week. I'm one lucky son of a bitch.
z00b Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 I keep adding mods as I play. I'm currently at 380 mods and surprisingly, I almost never CTD. I use Perkus Maximus and all What's your load order and blocklist for Perma Patcher? Trying to get a setup working that includes lots of mods, then SexLab + Perma.
Guest Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Yes. However, I do (or did) the following: Use ENBoost Cleaned master files with TES5Edit Adjust memory usage with Memory Blocks Log Keep the number of script-heavy mods down Only install mods that I absolutely know I will use for a play-through Don't make .ini tweaks when I have no idea what I'm doing Keep mods patched and updated No adding nor removing mods during a play-through Use a mod organizer, LOOT, and USLEEP Refrain from playing on hot days Clean my PC every 2 months or so Act conservatively with texture mods Use a good PC And most importantly: R.F.M. When something goes wrong, it is almost always on the user's end. Overall, I typically have about 100 .esps activated during a single play-through.
NickNozownik Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 It's stable. I'll get a CTD after 5-6 hours of gameplay if I'm really unlucky. So here's what I did: 1. Avoid shit like 8k snowflake textures 2. Use only few heavily scripted mods that are constantly active (RND, SL Aroused) 3. Use heavily scripted mods that are activated only via dialogue, so basically you won't have sex until you'll talk to someone or be in a specific location (TDF prostitution, Pet Collar, Skooma Whore, Eager NPCs) 4. Use Imaginator instead of ENB 5. Double check every new mod for possible conflicts 6. Use SkyTweak instead of a massive combat overhaul 7. Tweak your game with 50 small plugins instead of a one massive overhaul 8. Make a hard save before trying out a new mod. If it causes script lag, CTD or lag in general then nuke the shit out of it 9. Avoid mods with description like "lol it adds and changes stuff lol idk try it urself u guise r 2 lazy" And remember to save like a fucking maniac, no matter how stable your game is. EDIT: No mod organizers used. I dump everything into my Data folder.
dTd Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Very stable game with 280 mods , 174 plugins. Sometimes I have to load a small save before loading the main one and sometimes I will get a ctd if I repeatedly test animations with SL over and over while trying to adjust things like positions. I have one lvl45 save where that PC has completed dawnguard, dragonborn and the main questline, working on the mage line now. load order Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1OBlHairFinal.esm=1SGHairPackBase.esm=1hdtHighHeel.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1SexLab.esm=1Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1Inn Girls Resources.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1SexLabAroused.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1Devious Deviants.esp=1SexLab-Stories.esp=1SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp=1Sexlab Release.esp=1SLAnimLoader.esp=1KomAnimObjects.esp=1NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp=1SexLab Extra Voices.esp=1SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1SexLabSquirtR.esp=1SexLab Cumshot.esp=1posesivecorpses.esp=1LanternsOfSkyrimELFXpatch.esp=1SGHairPackAIO.esp=1Hair Physics Project.esp=1HHairstyles.esp=1KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1Beards.esp=1SGEyebrows.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp=1Babette.esp=1Cutting Room Floor.esp=1HFFF.esp=1YngolBarrowButtonFix.esp=1FloraRespawnFix.esp=1Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp=1UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1HoldBorderBanners.esp=1EGAl_NoMageBackSprint.esp=1No Magic Ninja Dodge.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1When Vampires Attack.esp=1SkyrimSpeeds.esp=1fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp=1DiversePriests.esp=1ElderOutfit.esp=1Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1Comprehensive Whiterun Bug Fix 1.1.esp=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - for Purity.esp=1EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1LOS ELFX Consistency Patch.esp=1Purity.esp=1dawnguard sentries.esp=1Populated Skyrim Merged - dTd.esp=1Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp=1Immersive NPC in the dark.esp=1Extended Encounters.esp=1DFB - Random Encounters.esp=1Rebirth Monster.esp=1OBIS.esp=1OBISDB.esp=1Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp=1Immersive Wenches.esp=1Deadly Wenches.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1LostLongSwords.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1GDO-IA-PATCH.esp=1CircletHelms.esp=1DawnguardCirclets.esp=1CircletHelmsDragonborn.esp=1SVS LadyTemplar.esp=1Assassin's Armour.esp=1Merta Assassin Armor.esp=1Berserk Mule Armor - Light Armor.esp=1Katarina.esp=1ale_studded.esp=1K2 HDT Boots.esp=1K2JiggleHarness.esp=1K2JiggleDragonscale.esp=1K2 Jiggle Draugr.esp=1Kaffemannen.esp=1Aradia Kato Outfit.esp=1Simplechainarmor.esp=1msAMV - PunisherArmor.esp=1rosarmor.esp=1FA Hide Armor.esp=1UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp=1BlackLaceMiniDress.esp=1DG High Heels.esp=1DG Leather Clothes.esp=1Emfy Cleric Robes.esp=1Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp=1LightBladesArmor.esp=1WestWindMisfit.esp=1WestWindAssault.esp=1EldgammelArmorforDreamGirl.esp=1Cassandra Frost Witch.esp=1Bikini-MTM.esp=1RevampedDSArmorDG.esp=1Ranger's Berne Armor.esp=1Draugr Marauder Light Armors combined.esp=1NewmDaedricBikTA.esp=1EC Clothes.esp=1BikiniArmorsDreamGirlTBBP-Merged.esp=1AllInOneBikiniLight.esp=1WildHuntress.esp=1EliteRogueArmour.esp=1RinjiinArmor.esp=1BarbarianSteelArmor.esp=1RemodeledArmorStandaloneMerged.esp=1SSLToys.esp=1StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp=1SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp=1Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp=1Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1Revenge of the Enemies Patches - Rebirth Monster - Patches Merged - dTd.esp=1SassyTeen.esp=1Mango.esp=1JetteCragJumper.esp=1Aeril.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1CassandraFARtoSTAR.esp=1FISS.esp=1UIExtensions.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp=1XPMSE.esp=1SOSRaceMenu.esp=1FNIS.esp=1FNISSexyMove.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1RaceMenuOverlays.esp=1RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp=1VioLens.esp=1TimingIsEverything.esp=1TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1Dynamic Dialogue Followers.esp=1PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp=1PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp=1UnderPants.esp=1LPSleep.esp=1Feminine Females.esp=1AutoUnequip - dTd Merged.esp=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1BijinAIO-2016_3.1.esp=1The Ordinary Women.esp=1Serana.esp=1SexLab Eager NPCs.esp=1SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 I use NMM with a couple of different profiles. One is basic unmodded, the other is full mods which Is what I mainly use. My PC is very mediocre, being a phenomx4 with 4G of ram and a gtx 750 ti. I have merged some armor mods and some scripted mods myself to reduce esp count as well as run wrye bash for merging level lists and stuff.
fgambler Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Jiub's quest left unfinished or not even started after leaving Soul Cairn was responsible of dozens of crashes I had. It seems to be a problem in the game engine, acknowledged by the SKSE team. I started doing that quest when setting foot on Soul Cairn on new playthroughs, and my heavily modded game now only CTD after long sessions (6~8 hours), which is really no problem. The Soul Cairn-related CTD was happening at any time no matter the hours spent on a session.
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