Is your Skyrim stable? Is it even possible?

[rawr22]

I have spent so many hours researching and testing mods to try and get a stable version of a modded Skyrim, but here I am yet again about to nuke yet another install and another save game due to CTDs.  I think I use best practices; new saves, bashed patch, BOSS, cleaned .esps, etc.

 

Has anyone with more than a few mods been able to get Skyrim to stay stable for any length of time?

 

If so what is your mod list?  Do you think it would be possible to compile a community 'safe' list?

[johnnyboy88]

There already is a guide.

 

http://wiki.step-project.com

[kolbjorn]

I played about 1/4 of the game without mods. And it CTDed a couple of times for no discernable reason. So keep in mind that the game could crash even without any mod.

 

My current Skyrim setup has 100+ mods and manual edits. And I'm even surprised that is still working =)

 

My advice: don't stack mods. Have just one per feature you want modded. For example, don't mix Deadly dragons with Dragon Combat Overhaul.

 

 

[Guest]

My current build is pretty stable with 90 plugins, but I'm on the third of a recent spate of reinstalls so not taking it for granted it'll stay that way. I did a load of dirty edit cleans which may have helped. Having said that, I just recently had the dreaded infinite load at Whiterun and managed to resolve it with a 31 day wait and some interior hard saves and not had any problems since, touch wood. 

 

I don't follow STEP to the letter, not sure I totally agree with their purist philosophy tbh, but I have taken their advice to some extent this time around when it comes to mod install order, I think they're definitely onto something there. 

 

Scripts are usually the source of my woes. I've gone with just Skyre and Frostfall this time around, rather than a bunch of mods that do essentially the same things. 

[dobmc]

Skyrim just didn't get enough love to overcome it's challenges... Or it could be because Skyrim was made initially on the console. It just feels so backwards when a console game gets ported to the pc. 

[Rayblue]

Did a clean reinstall, but this time a big deal of replacers and half a dozen mods that are script driven but have been tested and confirmed for stability (i.e. Frostfall). Of course cleaning and BOSS-reordering has become a necessity.

[BSnake]

I have about 250 mods in my load order, most of which are texture replacers and gameplay enhancements recommended by STEP, as well as armor/weapon/hair mods. My game runs stable for the most part, although the combination of high-res textures and my ENB preset tax my PC. I only use BOSS for discerning incompatibilities, preferring to set my load order manually while following suggestions from mods.

 

Making sure that mods are compatible with one another is a no-brainer. As b3ast1e mentioned, script-intensive mods (ex. those that spawn additional enemies) are known to cause CTDs, especially if you have a weak PC. If you use ENBSeries, I recommend trying out the latest binaries since Boris implemented ENBoost for reduced memory usage. You might have to adapt your ENB preset based on how old of a binary you're currently using.

[dove-cosy-fad]

My Skyrim works Rock stable. 

I just get CTDs, when I switch my mod profile, because then some mods overwrite others and I have to manually reorder them. 

I have like 130 *.esps/*.esm activated. 

 

I didn't followed any threads or suggestions. Just the fact that I only use the Mods I really need and that I only use one mods for one aspect of the game.

[Ailsa]

I currently have 189 mods in my game and normally get a CTD after 5 or 6 hours of gameplay.  I consider that to be very stable 

[rawr22]

I started with STEP, as suggested, but that guide has way more mods than I would ever consider installing, as while my FPS is fine with that many texture mods, load times suffer hugely.  So again I create a new install with a few texture mods, armor mods, several fixes and patches, Skyre, Frostfall, and one or two NPC or quest mods taking care not to install something unless it's something I really don't like playing without and keeping script heavy mods to a minimum.  Before you know it I'm up to 91 plugins, but most are popular and well tested.

 

After about 6 hours of gameplay, no CTDs.  Finally a stable install!  Then for no reason with no changes I start getting CTDs every 5 minutes, randomly.  Interiors, exteriors, loading, saving, doing nothing, it's completely random.  There goes another save.

 

I don't know how you guys do it.  I never had such trouble with Oblivion, FO3, on NV.  I'm tempted to give up on Skyrim for good and hope that Bethesda's next title does not keep script info in save games.

 

/rant

[Madmartigan34]

I NEVER crash indoors.

 

My crashing in Skyrim always happens if I go outside and just start to wander on foot or horse.

 

Its gotten to the point where i just COC around the map.

[有限な]

I never CTD. I always check for incompatablities and that seems to do it for me. o_o

[Captain Cobra]

Skyrim is the most stable Bethesda game I have, even though it's the most modded one.  I've never have a CTD while during normal play.

 

Then again, I've never used any of the endless wave of ENB mods, so that is probably why.

[Taskmaster]

It's sometimes disheartening how unstable the game can be.

 

I crash during play or infinite load at least 5 per day of playing(if I were to try and play like 4 hours or so on a given day). 

 

End up troubleshooting more than playing, and I have about 160 plugins, I think I might just shave that down to single digits.

[Sophisa]

ENBoost works wonders, I can tell you that much - playing on my 3-ish year old laptop with graphics settings near max and a hundred and .... sixty-something mods? Can't recall off the top of my head. Had a fair bit of frame dropping, added ENBoost, game runs like a charm. Had one or two CTDs, so pruned the mod list a little, but they're very rare. Big thing is just to check out a mod before you install it, read the comment pages, see if there's any likely issues, and if there are, how to get around them or safely uninstall the mod (Claralux is a good example of this, avoid that thing like the plague)

[Mud]

With over 200 mods, my Skyrim's just about the polar opposite of stable. Cities like Whiterun and certain towns like Ivarstead will freeze without fail if I try to run around outside while too many of the town's inhabitants are out and about, possibly because I'm using an NPC overhaul mod with fancy hair and all, necessitating the use of COC to warp to the facilities I need to access. Combat bears a chance of freezing in seemingly random places. A couple of dungeons, like Shroud Hearth Barrow or Raven Rock Mine, refuse to allow me entry via the front door, instead freezing or crashing, yet when I use COC to enter, the entire place is fine. Loading new environment objects when travelling on foot can cause freezes. When the game has a heavy load of stuff to... well, load, I could crash by opening my inventory, looting something, or simply trying to pause the game. Dustman's Cairn gets ridiculously crashy when I try to loot Silver Hand corpses. Radiant events could crash my game when they spawn. The Bannered Mare and Bee and Barb have a penchant for crashing when I enter for some reason. The list goes on.

 

Just about the only silver lining is that dungeon delving, beyond that issue with a handful of them, is largely smooth and error-free.

[s.eden]

CTD and Memory patch ENBoost

In case, this one does help quite a bit as to smoothering the game up.

Then, they are some options as to Ingame change to .ini and others configuration settings (using Skyrim Configuration Menu for example).

As to a stable "mega" mod, the way to go is almost always the same, with some twists.

A tool like TES5Edit is quite mandatory, as to merge & trial (as example, there will be quite some mods making changes to the same NPC, so, as to adress conflicts (losing one important part, this said, in some case, not having the dedicated hair/face given can be a sorry result). 

So, install all your selected mods (not the data : bsa & meshes/textures, yet).

Run BOSS if some mods are not correctly set, make a correct report to the team.

Then, time to merge, example : items.
Select all the new item and merge them, of course, see to erase (not add to merged file) the npc/locations, this being seen later).

When you have declutered your load order, it is time to see to manage theire file (which require you did see to keep the archives in a correct fashion (categories) beforehand).
So, extract bsa and "merge" the files belonging to the now merged "categorie" esp.
(Keep archive of the merged esp, if an update is done it will proove usefull).

When the merges are dones (just merging items & "compatibility patchs" by category could be quite a large opening as to avalaible place).

Take care not to merge to much (at last try to keep over a distinct type of content, even if your esp is small, as to compatibility..)

Using WryeMash, it is then time to make a bashed file, mostly as to lists.
At this point, TESC is needed.

First, loading all the mods who make changes to the cells (quests, immersion, etc) and double check there are no conflict, if so, correct them all in a new customised "cell master" esp (who will be loaded after all theses mods of course). Of course, seeing to navpath is mandatory.


When done, guess it depend of the selected mods, some have specific requirement, like quest being completed, locations discovered etc, so, going on a multi tiers mod add setup could be usefull.

As to Skyrim himself, that 3GB max for data is prooving being quite worrysome. Still, if crashing upon loading (infinite), try to use fast travel, thus going without the previous data kept in memory (freeing space). 

I guess they are quite some others points to consider, for now, that should be alright as to a headstart.

Oh, btw, do not merge skse & MCM mods !

 

[sickzpack]

I'd love to see some mod lists and load orders posted from anyone with a stable-ish game

[Sophisa]

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm
JSwords.esm
NewStyleEyes.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Xvision Children.esm
AsharaMerchantNPC.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
uskp_addon.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Xvision Children - Complete.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
SplashofRain.esp
Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp
Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Book Covers Dawnguard.esp
Book Covers Hearthfire.esp
Book Covers Dragonborn.esp
Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp
Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
AlynShirArmor.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-7.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ArmoredCircletsQuickFox.esp
AsharaRadiantRaiment.esp
AsharaRomanticOutfit.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
Bikini-MTM.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
DemonHunterArmor.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
LostLongSwords.esp
DemonHunterV2armor.esp
DemonHunter_Scarf.esp
SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp
skyforgedShields.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Remodeled Armor.esp
Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
Craftable Invisible Helmets.esp
3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp
zzTmBallGown.esp
Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
RiverwoodHuntingCabin.esp
Enchanting - IDWIW.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Half Weight).esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp
CorrectGenderAnimations.esp
CorrectGenderAnimations-DG.esp
CorrectGenderAnimations-DB.esp
Crafting-MakeSteelFromIronIngots.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
skyforgedWeapons.esp
TGLNordArmor.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
SGHailPackAllinOne.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
UFO - Dragonborn AddOn - Unofficial.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
No More Glowing Edges.esp
WATER.esp
WATER Plants.esp
WATER DB Waves.esp
amk Border Lace Lingerie.esp
ME3 Reckoner Knight Armor.esp
Witch Of The Wild.esp
SBF Aranea.esp
SBF Brelyna.esp
SBF Borgakh.esp
SBF Adelaisa.esp
SBF Jenassa.esp
SBF Anneke.esp
SBF Aela.esp
SBF Eola.esp
SBF Mjoll.esp
SBF Njada.esp
SBF Illia.esp
SBF Jordis.esp
SBF Rayya.esp
SBF Ingjard.esp
SBF Frea.esp
BW Iona.esp
BW Lydia.esp
Uthgerd.esp
Mjoll.esp
Serana.esp
AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp
AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp
AAA_FyTy_Fixes_RelationshipRankQuests.esp
Xvision Children - USKP.esp
prod80_CoT_patch.esp
ExtraIngotOptions.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp
StormLord.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Craft your gear - Dragonborn.esp
StalhrimExtraCrafting.esp
chfshImbuedSword.esp
fine goods from morrowind.esp
ChitinHeavyShield.esp
NeverJoinCollege.esp
Hearthfire Cheat Chests.esp
Llewellyn Dragonborn Comes.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Goldwatch.esp
mtMC.esp
mtHornrichHearthNoMans.esp
Potema and Mjoll Quest Fix.esp
Dawnguard Radiant Quest Adjustment.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

 

 

You'll notice most of it is simple, low impact stuff, with as little script additions as possible. Mostly just cosmetics, armour, sounds, better followers. It's not that hard to have a stable-ish modded game (I don't ctd often, but Whiterun loads pretty slowly, and going near blacksmiths causes a bit of stutter with SMIM, for example) so long as you pay attention to load order, don't use more than one thing that affects the same game element (meaning major elements like quests, sound, npcs, perks, combat ai, etc), use any compatibility patches needed, and be ready to uninstall things if they cause havoc.

 

That said, something in this list plays a bit of havoc with starting a new game, so I always make sure to load from a save I made *just* before the creation menu comes up, which had no mods loaded at the time.

[rawr22]

Xvision Children.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

 

I've had instability after installing Xvision, so I no longer play with that.  I'm pretty sure Climates of Tamriel was the cause of a CTD I kept getting when the weather changed outside Windhelm as removing it stopped the crash.  I'd like to play Enhanced Dark Brotherhood too but I removed that one just because of the huge amount of Papyrus spam.  I'm glad their all stable for you, perhaps it was their interactions with other mods that caused problems for me.

 

I've also noticed I seem to have more problems with later ENB versions with the memory management.  I seem to CTD more often and my game stutters much more in exteriors (yes I have the correct settings).  I have a much smoother and more reliable game with older versions pre memory management.  I'd prefer to not use ENB at all but damn those vanilla shadows are so bad.

 

My new build is as minimalistic as I can get it and I've not used a load of mods I really like in an attempt to get a stable game, seems stable for the most part so far, only played about 4 hours on new char so far though:

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

Ket_ARMONIZER_v2.esm

Omegared99-Compilation.esm

SPIKE.esm

XFLMain.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Bijin Warmaidens UNP One esp.esp

Serana.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

enb_reference.esp

RevampedExteriorFog.esp

Blackout_Skyrim.esp

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

GypsyEyesCaravan.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Character Creation Overhaul.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

UIExtensions.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-NoGuards.esp

DragonbornArmorFix.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

imp_helm.esp

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones_Fix.esp

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp

SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

CorrectGenderAnimations.esp

CorrectGenderAnimations-DG.esp

CorrectGenderAnimations-DB.esp

db-nightshade-replacer.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Headtracking.esp

Ket_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.esp

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

NoSneakAttackSound.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

psikoticsnecromancy.esp

vImmersiveBeds.esp

3DNPC.esp

3DNPCEFF.esp

XFLConfig.esp

XFLDialogue.esp

XFLPanel.esp

XFLPlugins.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

SkyRe_Races_Fix.esp

ENB Snow FX.esp

WATER.esp

WATER DG.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DB.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Pre ReProccer IW aMidianSS IA Patch.esp

ReProccer.esp

qotsafans Books HF Patch.esp

qotsafans Ingestibles HF Patch.esp

 

 

 

[Veladarius]

Unfortunately even mods that are stable by themselves can be sabotaged by a single conflicting mod. Many mods work well together but sometimes a seemingly simple mod can step all over their toes and make them look bad. I have learned to figure out what is causing issues in my game because I add and remove mods constantly. Sometimes it breaks things to the point that I start a new game but I usually learn what works and what doesn't with the mods I already have. I think I am pushing my Skyrim game to the limit much of the time but I have been able to get more out of the game than I did before. I think one of my issues right now is with the newer series ENB causing problems with crashing on loading saves but without it my game would not look anywhere near as good as it does or run as fast. Once it is going it is fairly stable. Right now my mod list is light compared to my usual of maxed out (only 244 esm/esp's):

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1
3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
JSwords.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
Omegared99-Compilation.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SPIKE.esm=1
TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
xazBondage.esm=1
HentaiPregnancy.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1
TERAArmors.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1
RelightingSkyrim.esp=1
Relighting Skyrim - Update.esp=1
Relighting Skyrim - HearthFire.esp=1
Relighting Skyrim - Dragonborn.esp=1
Orc&ElfFix4TBBP.esp=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
SplashofRain.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1
_pocketempirebuilder.esp=1
AK- Placeable Statics.esp=1
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1
buttplug-calyps.esp=1
Craft, Temper, Smelt.esp=1
Dead Body Collision.esp=1
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp=1
ItemRewardsForBounties.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp=1
LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
LoversComfort.esp=1
LoversHook.esp=1
mcCampingLite.esp=1
Moss Rocks.esp=1
Real Clouds.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1
Skyrim Expanded Loot Tables.esp=1
Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=1
TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp=1
ZazResources.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1
vAutosaveManager.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
Customizable Camera.esp=1
Grimy Utilities Interface.esp=1
bobsarmory.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
Earrings Set1.esp=1
ElvenWeaponry.esp=1
Gatti14Yumiko.esp=1
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Insanity's Shields.esp=1
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1
LadyKdCirclets.esp=1
Lanterns.esp=1
Nicoroshi Creations.esp=1
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp=1
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp=1
PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp=1
Really Radiant Raiment.esp=1
TERA Weapons.esp=1
UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp=1
3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp=1
3rdEraWeapMoS-rareCraft.esp=1
zarias_restraints.esp=1
DragonSwarms.esp=1
ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp=1
Convenient Horse Herding.esp=1
CZHCAD.esp=1
CZHCAD_DG.esp=1
CZHCAD_HF.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
Immersive Dawnstar.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
ShezriesHFKitchen.esp=1
ShezriesHFKitchenHel.esp=1
ShezriesWinstadHearthfireKitchen.esp=1
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp=1
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp=1
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp=1
Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
Headtracking.esp=1
LaFemmeLycana.esp=1
LFox Vendors Have Arrows.esp=1
no_essential_COs.esp=1
NoHelmet.esp=1
Proper Aiming.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
SOS - Dawnguard Armors.esp=1
SOS - Dragonborn Armors.esp=1
SexLab Romance.esp=1
SkyFalls - Distant Waterfall Overhaul.esp=1
Stormcloaks_n_Guards_with_Face.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1
Zarias_Piercings1.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
Beautiful Cities.esp=1
Realistic Lighting.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp=1
Relighting Skyrim - Dawnguard.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
Diseased.esp=1
Northern Bathhouses.esp=1
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1
LFox No Werewolf Form Cooldown.esp=1
Scriptless werewolf bonus.esp=1
ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp=1
ToL_SKSE_by_Brevi.esp=1
Vampire's Underwater suffocation FIX 1.2.esp=1
WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp=1
Werewolves.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
ASX_Spells.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
Enchanting Freedom.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
Uncapped Perks - Magic.esp=1
Uncapped Perks - Combat + Stealth.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Vampirelordroyal.esp=1
BVandRB_Formlist.esp=1
Werewolf Loot- Dawnguard version.esp=1
Brows.esp=1
MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp=1
MTOH.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
Improved Freckles Skyrim.esp=1
EpicElves by zzjay.esp=0
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp=1
ajd_domhearthfirestewards.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1
Map Markers Complete.esp=1
TERAArmors.esp=1
TERAArmors - Leveled Lists.esp=1
Devious Devices - Chastity.esp=1
CrossbowsRevamped.esp=1
UnlockUniqueEnchantments.esp=1
BetterMagic_FULL.esp=1
xazBondage.esp=1
DeadlyDragons.esp=1
DeadlyMonsters.esp=1
SexLabZaZAnimations.esp=1
SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp=1
SexLabProcreation.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1
SexLab Solutions.esp=1
SMPC.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
_zzhairscombined.esp=1
HairCombo1.esp=1
TradeBarter.esp=1
HPSoulGemBirth.esp=1
mslZaZArachnophobia.esp=1
No more butch females - Vanilla.esp=1
Vampire_NoSunDamage_Hoods&Helmets.esp=1
NN_ElvishDresses.esp=1
SkyHeels.esp=1
SummerRobeNM.esp=1
RRElphintos.esp=1
bestrape.esp=1
CarlottaValentiaHappyEnding.esp=1
OblHairsCombined.esp=1
SGHairPackCombined.esp=1
ETaC - Villages Complete.esp=1
Tongueswcript.esp=1
mortenhairs.esp=1
GrassOnSteroids_Short.esp=1
Flowing Cape.esp=1
Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp=1
zzTravellerHoods.esp=1
zzAharaPOTWHood-Hair.esp=1
TravelMounts.esp=1
PrivateNeeds.esp=1
PrivateNeeds-Sexlab.esp=1
PrivateNeeds-RND.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
NausicaaWeps.esp=1
sword_rapiers.esp=1
LPSleep.esp=1
Upgraded Daedric Artifacts.esp=1
ShezHelGreenhouse.esp=1
Swift Steeds Replacer.esp=1
NS_Eilhart_Dress.esp=1
Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp=1
GauldurAmuletUpgrade.esp=1
Player Size Adjuster.esp=1
o3dDeviceBondage.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1
CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1
NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1
Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp=1
Osare GothicLolita.esp=1
LiFE.esp=1
westninja.esp=1
HISvalleAmor.esp=1
enb_reference.esp=1

 

[torkenstiem]

 

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
CharGen Morphs.esp=1
Dead Body Collision.esp=1
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
Gatti14Yumiko.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1
zarias_restraints.esp=1
zz_GDRAHoods.esp=1
Northern Bathhouses.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
Headtracking.esp=1
Housecarls Mixed Feminine Armor Makeover Essential Level cap v5b.esp=1
MoreTraining_50.esp=1
SexLab Romance.esp=1
SexLab Solutions.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1
dD-No Screen Blood.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1
Werewolves.esp=1
dovahkiinrelax.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
No Kill Moves.esp=1
Sit Anywhere.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
ESPv1_1.esp=1
Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp=1
Bestiality_NudeBears.esp=1
bestrape.esp=1
Private Needs.esp=1
SexLabSquirt.esp=1
SexLabProcreation.esp=1
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1
sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1

i only have 50+ mods installed and lot of them are WIP. sometimes i can play for hours withouta random crash but usually i get a CTD when i first start playin. most of the time its around the RIFT area. but its more stable now than it use to be. IMO,  Skyrim is the most delicate game ive ever played.

 

[sickzpack]

My load order is pretty much the same as yours. But I don't use ENB's, my crappy pc can't handle em

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I have spent so many hours researching and testing mods to try and get a stable version of a modded Skyrim, but here I am yet again about to nuke yet another install and another save game due to CTDs.  I think I use best practices; new saves, bashed patch, BOSS, cleaned .esps, etc.

 

Has anyone with more than a few mods been able to get Skyrim to stay stable for any length of time?

 

If so what is your mod list?  Do you think it would be possible to compile a community 'safe' list?

 

It depends on so many things, your PC your config, what your running in background, how many mods installed, size of all mods, mods that can work together or not.

 

Have you updated all to latest versions(dont update if it works fine, unless there is realy something you want and need update)?

 

Have you boss/edit all(also the unreconize seems many forget those to clean up)

 

TEST all mods one by one if it couse crash problem.

 

Have you format lately or is your OS and all installs year old?

 

Is your PC a desktop or laptop is it a new one with latest tech or old one from 6 years ago, powerfull enough to run it all?

 

So many reason where it can go wrong.

 

I had many CTD crashes also but over time ive learn what my PC can handle and what mods work perfectly together also don't install to many mods.

 

Its realy not that hard just readme if mod is competible with others and see if they work fine together.

 

I have a highend PC from 1.5 year ago(ivybridge) with AMD 7970 and my game looks gorgeous and stable but i make sure mods all work together are cleaned up and not way to many installed.

 

Also when i play i dont have to many other programs running in background.

 

Good luck!

 

P.S I use realvision(v215 stable)/hrk ENB-Cot-RLO-FloraOverhaul.

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Allso if posible install the data folders through NMM so you can if it couse problems easly uninstall it, other wise if you just copy past into data folder its hard to keep track of there go in what folder and remove it later.

 

Name DATA folder as mod name and just install through NMM make it all much smoother avoid complications and frustrations later:)