Starfield will have no sex.

[buzzbombr]

11 hours ago, Varithina said:

 

That gives me the mental image of a battleship doing things with its main turret guns, to some poor hapless destroyer, and no I do not mean shooting them, or at least not shooting them the normal way you would expect when talking about warships.

Companion: Oh shit, you mean we're boarding THAT way, AGAIN!!?? You're a sick fuck, Captain!

Captain: Just get in the shoot. I'll be there... in a bit. I just need a few minutes here with my external camera feeds. I'll be there after I mop up, err, to help mop up. Yeah.

[Kathylady]

Do we have to wait for the creation kit before modders can add nude skins and sex animations?

[cetuximab]

On 8/31/2023 at 1:14 AM, Kathylady said:

Do we have to wait for the creation kit before modders can add nude skins and sex animations?

 

Nude bodies requires at a minimum someone to reverse engineer the textures, and possibly the NIF meshes and skeleton.  Jiggly parts will probably require someone to create an, "enhanced" skeleton a la XPMSE.  Functioning anatomy will most definitely require a new skeleton and meshes.

 

Sex animations will require scene management, which needs the CK to create scenes and possibly register "idle" animations if it works like past Creation Engine games. 

[Mushano]

One difference between Starfield and Skyrim/Fallout 4 seems to be the way equipment is done.

Looting body armour/headwear from an NPC doesn't remove it from their body model / equip them with a nude version.

 

I hope there's a simple fix for that in the future.

[South8028]

5 hours ago, cetuximab said:

 

Nude bodies requires at a minimum someone to reverse engineer the textures, and possibly the NIF meshes and skeleton.  Jiggly parts will probably require someone to create an, "enhanced" skeleton a la XPMSE.  Functioning anatomy will most definitely require a new skeleton and meshes.

 

Sex animations will require scene management, which needs the CK to create scenes and possibly register "idle" animations if it works like past Creation Engine games. 

All beth games work with havok. Accordingly, what is needed here is not reverse engineering, but the version of hct with which the engine works. ) Accordingly, either beth will release official bgs tools or not. If there are no tools, there will be no animations either. Because pirated hct after 2015 is not possible. fo4 uses a pirated hct2014 because people downloaded it before Microsoft bought havok. Otherwise, there would still be no custom animations for fo4.

[Anonymous]

On 4/25/2023 at 11:13 PM, Wandering_Mania said:

And did you really expect anything different from Bethesda? They don't even have default naked body models in any of their games.

Technically Khajiits and Argonians in Morrowind were butt naked, no?

[Varithina]

1 hour ago, Anonymous said:

Technically Khajiits and Argonians in Morrowind were butt naked, no?

 

If you are into the fuzzy side then yes they did, but most people are thinking of the well human races when talking about this, so no.

[Wandering_Mania]

1 hour ago, Anonymous said:

Technically Khajiits and Argonians in Morrowind were butt naked, no?

Don't know. I never played that one. But ever since the Oblivion era, there has been nothing but the default 'everyone has rag undies'. So if they where that way in Morrowind, then it shows that BGS took a step backward a long time ago.

[Qtaro]

Is there even like...a release date for the Starfield CK?

[jfmherokiller]

just want to say from the frontlines that xedit is being worked on currently.

[sen4mi]

On 9/1/2023 at 8:19 PM, Mushano said:

One difference between Starfield and Skyrim/Fallout 4 seems to be the way equipment is done.

Looting body armour/headwear from an NPC doesn't remove it from their body model / equip them with a nude version.

 

I hope there's a simple fix for that in the future.

 

But weapons disappear when you loot them. So the game has some of the mechanisms for updating the displayed models on loot.

 

Edit: but I often find people carrying stuff that they clearly are not wearing, so ... I guess a fix would involve having them equip stuff they are carrying?

Edited September 4, 2023 by sen4mi

[Sledge1964]

Well I have faith in the good modders of this community - heaven knows the current in-game romance sucks - it's as stiff as a broomstick, and not in a good way....  No chance of a hug, or a kiss, let alone  ANYthing that might involve emotion... sigh.  What WERE they thinking?  It's like two robots talking to each other.
Humour also seems to be on the short side - at least FO4 had some great one liners, and Skyrim too (thanks to the modders).  I'd love to see a mod for a companion in the same vein as Sophia, the fully voiced companion from Skyrim - she was a hoot, and with Loverslab, a shirt load of fun!

 

 

Edited September 5, 2023 by Sledge1964

[sen4mi]

I don't know about that lack of humor ... I had a ship load of tourists trying to flirt with me today.

 

Thing is, Bethesda employs a lot of people. This is not many when compared to their total audience, or even when compared to modders. But it's still a lot of people and different people have different approaches. And this shows up in the game.

[Sledge1964]

I hear what you're saying, it just seems to me, they're trying so hard to be  politically correct, and not to offend anyone, that it's made it, well dry.... Tourists tryin to flirt with ya eh?  Sounds like fun... lol.  

Romance so far, imho, has been as much fun as signing a merger between two corporate giants.  Actually in hindsight, that'd probably be more fun.
Playing the game, its the same mechanics as skyrim and fallout, I mean, who still uses loading screens these days to enter a building or even a room?  Most games you can just seamlessly walk wherever you want...  And thats just one of the minor irritations that persist after all these years.  I get shivers down my spine when I think of all the problems that occured when modding skyrim or fo4, when games would ctd on loading screens... sigh.  But overall, like all their games, I'm  loving it.  Just feels as if this game is missing something vital..  The funniest thing I've encountered so far is Sarah getting up one morning (I married her in another lifeless scene) and saying 'You know, just for a change we should really  try sleeping one night'...

Edited September 8, 2023 by Sledge1964

[hogsmaws]

On 4/25/2023 at 11:07 AM, kamoewarrior said:

Here's hoping whatever framework modders develop for it will be at least on par with SexLab. Forget AAF that thing is janky af

 

a long time ago i asked why there wasn't a FO4 SL equivalent and the response was that the modders didn't like FO4 enough to be inspired to make a framework for it. not sure about starfield but it seems that it may follow suit. a lot of ppl are saying how boring it is. 

 

 

[Stiffon67]

On 9/8/2023 at 8:27 AM, hogsmaws said:

a lot of ppl are saying how boring it is. 

 

 

I'm 60 hours in and loving it! The first few hours are not the best, but once you get a handle on things and past that, it's awesome! (imo anyway lol). Fingers crossed the important sex modders here enjoy it!

[VideNoir]

Autistic dump about sf for why its fucking shit:

 

Spoiler

I had to force myself to keep playing for hours and hours hoping it gets better at some point, i -almost- had fun -once- during ryujin quests but then it absurdly ended as if they just cut the rest of the quests, stuck as a shitty senior operative with 2000c per bounty which is always the same quests just like damn preston's missions except even more boring

i literally cant find one good thing to say about it except maybe the new integrated knockout mechanic for non lethals, otherwise its a fallout 4 reskinned fangame that demands an ssd and unreasonably high specs. I guess only way to make it tolerable is such mod. Im so frustrated i gotta write this shit somewhere. Its like a patience test more than a game, even with the ungodly amounts of loading screens being about 2 seconds thanks to ssd, every quest is straight up terrible and go there, talk to him, come back sort of shit constantly which, you guessed it. 50 more loading screens. I honestly had so frustrated i should be getting paid to play this fucking garbage.

guns look like ass, 2023 and still bethesda dont know how a loaded and unloaded gun reloads, gun selection is ass despite having more than f4 i think, suits look like ass, procedural planets are ass, resource collection is ass, unlike fallout which you could just collect shit you seen to get mats you now have to do one of the most agonizing work of mining for hours without end to get much of anything or buy it with the little ass 2k bounties give you cause the main and side quests are so uninteresting you cant get yourself to travel across the godforsaken galaxy and go through 10 load screens to talk to one npc and go wherever the off planet fuck they send you to just to get another 10 load screens to do the job. lockpick minigame was fine at first with difficulty but then it started to get SO tedious with how much time it consume you are better off welding your ass to your seat. Other than that, spongy ass far cry new dawn ass enemies with disgusting resistance to bullets which cyberpunk also have until laters in game but cyberpunk gets a free pass for being absolutely perfect in every way except free roam interaction option variety. anyway aside all that, ship builder was first surprising to see but it was quickly crushed by the whole gun limit and variety crap, could have just let it and managed required power and group assignments accordingly, there is already just about 4-5 types of weapons. About companions, none really seem to have much.. depth or appeal or maybe it is my introvertness but i never really wanted any of them to tag along with me since the first time i talked to em, even the robot despite it saying your name like codsworth its chunky ass isnt fun to have around when stealthing.

anyway, so procedural planets and stuff, there is barely much interesting things going on and i saw there is hardly any variety of fauna, plantlife or anything except maybe 3-4 things all slapped in one planet, agonizingly long empty walks across places as just like expected, no vehicles cause bethesda is afraid of them. Only thing i sorta liked doing was 0-g combat in a ship but then you cant stealth and it wasnt great for the build. Anyway so yeah biggest massivest issue is half finished ass, absolutely uninteresting side quests that just make you feel like you are there working a damn trucker job with how much you travel and see the god forsaken loading screens and repeating cutscenes, and the occasional action is your breaks from the truck driving job, which is also shitty cause sponge enemies and their wallhacks, and as usual unkillable named enemies even though i have no interest in ever getting involved with whatever quest they may have or so on. I wish i didnt waste hours hoping it gets slightly fun somewhere but i mean i expected this from the start seeing how f76 turned out back then.

 

In conclusion its agonizing and a complete waste of time to play, where is the "rising corporate ranks" their paid sponsors were talking about in tik tok? not here. Its all a lie like everything they said, this is even more half finished than cyberpunk on release, just less bugs but even worse, there is no fun and engaging quests at all, or anything to do in free roam.if not questing, once again they say role playing game not space sim, i see none of that here. Nor a proper space sim nor a good damn rpg, small ass cities dont even feel like cities they are basically one street except new atlantis, neon is one street, akila is slightly more than one street.

 

"You are our greatest asset", no promotion above senior, we'll give you a coffin like office and make you do 2000c worth of bounty quests that are the same ones every time in god fucked ass planets far away forever. UNTIL you get bored and tortured enough of doing it and try other things in the game that dont even interest you, because you have to. Cause we dont got nothing more for ryujin or any actual finale for anything it was all. a small shitty side quest that meant nothing in the end and your whole character development until now is basically just a joke, go become a fucking ranger in akila or something cause it makes sense right?

 

and i did not even begin about the engine and copy paste mechanics from fallout. Oh boy this rant will NEVER end.

 

Edited September 11, 2023 by VideNoir

[Miauzi]

Am 11.09.2023 um 01:09 Uhr sagte Stiffon67:

Ich bin seit 60 Stunden dabei und liebe es! Die ersten paar Stunden sind nicht die besten, aber wenn man die Dinge erst einmal im Griff hat und darüber hinaus, ist es großartig! (meinte jedenfalls lol). Ich drücke den wichtigen Sex-Moddern hier die Daumen, viel Spaß!

 

If the former mod authors don't feel like it - because the game is too boring for them (some have already made this known here)

AND

the outstanding and all-surpassing Mr. Todd H. officially declares "that boredom is part of the game concept".

THEN you and all the others who like the game so much will finally have to get out of your "consumer comfort zone".

AND

Start designing and programming mods yourself.

Not a single line of good wishes has been written down yet.

[Sledge1964]

Hey  - I said I have faith in the good modders of  this  community, to be able to breathe a bit of life into the game... @Miauzi  ...or is that not what you meant?

 

[VideNoir]

did he seriously just fucking say that the boredom is intentional? holy fuck

[Miauzi]

Vor 34 Minuten sagte VideNoir:

Hat er im Ernst gerade gesagt, dass die Langeweile Absicht ist? heiliger Scheiß

 

Yes he did ... at the insignificant provincial paper "NewYork Times" ... space in general is boring - already the Apollo astronauts had essentially -> boredom during their ground missions on the moon.

Well that's his view ... and his game also does everything to make space boring ... not to mention the dirt balls aka moons and planets.

Now I compare this with a flight in "Elite" through the outer layers of the corona of a star ... to refuel my ship... after all, I have 15,000 light years ahead of me ... that's how far it is to the Super Black Hole from the centre of the galaxy ... I have already covered 10,000 light years in 30-35 light year jumps.

And when the proverbial "oats prick me" - I use the jet stream of a white dwarf or a neutron star as a "booster" to make up to 500 light years in one ride ... compared to that, a stay in a washing machine is pure deep relaxation.

In the meantime I have rescued 3 people from rock caves ... because I wanted to. And an aggressive miner who was always going "Golum" (that's my darling - get lost or I'll shoot you in the head) ... I put him out of his misery aka life ... double shot in the head - he doesn't have to guard a pile of dirt any more.

(Nothing about it is funny to me - it feels empty and sad - to have something like this shoved under your nose as a AAA title!)

 

[Miauzi]

Vor 3 Stunden sagte Sledge1964:

Hey – ich habe gesagt, dass ich den guten Moddern dieser Community vertraue, damit sie dem Spiel ein bisschen Leben einhauchen können … @Miauzi … oder hast du das nicht gemeint?

 

 

I don't know what there is to misunderstand.

The mod authors will spend hundreds if not thousands of hours of their (probably increasingly scarce) free time on it over the years ... if they see any sense in it at all.

So far there are no working tools available and how much of the game might work ... is pure speculation.

So why should they do the work for Bugdesta to make a decent game on "StarField"?

Because they can? Why do these people have to prove their skills to anyone?

The only ones whining here ... are the many lazy and incompetent ones - who use mods but would never think of writing any.

I can't do that either, by the way - but I don't stand here and post long wish lists full of sexual fanatasies ... half of which have already been seen in the film "Barbarella".

[Erenlor]

On 9/11/2023 at 2:36 AM, VideNoir said:

Autistic dump about sf for why its fucking shit:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

I had to force myself to keep playing for hours and hours hoping it gets better at some point, i -almost- had fun -once- during ryujin quests but then it absurdly ended as if they just cut the rest of the quests, stuck as a shitty senior operative with 2000c per bounty which is always the same quests just like damn preston's missions except even more boring

i literally cant find one good thing to say about it except maybe the new integrated knockout mechanic for non lethals, otherwise its a fallout 4 reskinned fangame that demands an ssd and unreasonably high specs. I guess only way to make it tolerable is such mod. Im so frustrated i gotta write this shit somewhere. Its like a patience test more than a game, even with the ungodly amounts of loading screens being about 2 seconds thanks to ssd, every quest is straight up terrible and go there, talk to him, come back sort of shit constantly which, you guessed it. 50 more loading screens. I honestly had so frustrated i should be getting paid to play this fucking garbage.

guns look like ass, 2023 and still bethesda dont know how a loaded and unloaded gun reloads, gun selection is ass despite having more than f4 i think, suits look like ass, procedural planets are ass, resource collection is ass, unlike fallout which you could just collect shit you seen to get mats you now have to do one of the most agonizing work of mining for hours without end to get much of anything or buy it with the little ass 2k bounties give you cause the main and side quests are so uninteresting you cant get yourself to travel across the godforsaken galaxy and go through 10 load screens to talk to one npc and go wherever the off planet fuck they send you to just to get another 10 load screens to do the job. lockpick minigame was fine at first with difficulty but then it started to get SO tedious with how much time it consume you are better off welding your ass to your seat. Other than that, spongy ass far cry new dawn ass enemies with disgusting resistance to bullets which cyberpunk also have until laters in game but cyberpunk gets a free pass for being absolutely perfect in every way except free roam interaction option variety. anyway aside all that, ship builder was first surprising to see but it was quickly crushed by the whole gun limit and variety crap, could have just let it and managed required power and group assignments accordingly, there is already just about 4-5 types of weapons. About companions, none really seem to have much.. depth or appeal or maybe it is my introvertness but i never really wanted any of them to tag along with me since the first time i talked to em, even the robot despite it saying your name like codsworth its chunky ass isnt fun to have around when stealthing.

anyway, so procedural planets and stuff, there is barely much interesting things going on and i saw there is hardly any variety of fauna, plantlife or anything except maybe 3-4 things all slapped in one planet, agonizingly long empty walks across places as just like expected, no vehicles cause bethesda is afraid of them. Only thing i sorta liked doing was 0-g combat in a ship but then you cant stealth and it wasnt great for the build. Anyway so yeah biggest massivest issue is half finished ass, absolutely uninteresting side quests that just make you feel like you are there working a damn trucker job with how much you travel and see the god forsaken loading screens and repeating cutscenes, and the occasional action is your breaks from the truck driving job, which is also shitty cause sponge enemies and their wallhacks, and as usual unkillable named enemies even though i have no interest in ever getting involved with whatever quest they may have or so on. I wish i didnt waste hours hoping it gets slightly fun somewhere but i mean i expected this from the start seeing how f76 turned out back then.

 

In conclusion its agonizing and a complete waste of time to play, where is the "rising corporate ranks" their paid sponsors were talking about in tik tok? not here. Its all a lie like everything they said, this is even more half finished than cyberpunk on release, just less bugs but even worse, there is no fun and engaging quests at all, or anything to do in free roam.if not questing, once again they say role playing game not space sim, i see none of that here. Nor a proper space sim nor a good damn rpg, small ass cities dont even feel like cities they are basically one street except new atlantis, neon is one street, akila is slightly more than one street.

 

"You are our greatest asset", no promotion above senior, we'll give you a coffin like office and make you do 2000c worth of bounty quests that are the same ones every time in god fucked ass planets far away forever. UNTIL you get bored and tortured enough of doing it and try other things in the game that dont even interest you, because you have to. Cause we dont got nothing more for ryujin or any actual finale for anything it was all. a small shitty side quest that meant nothing in the end and your whole character development until now is basically just a joke, go become a fucking ranger in akila or something cause it makes sense right?

 

and i did not even begin about the engine and copy paste mechanics from fallout. Oh boy this rant will NEVER end.

 

Fallout 4 frustrated me so much I wrote the exact same rant about it. ? I completely understand your agony, friend.

Edited September 16, 2023 by Erenlor

[steveklaasen]

I read the topic and all I could think was "You know nothing John Snow."

[Celedhring]

To paraphrase Malcolm from Jurassic Park:  "Sex will find a way"