Bloodfang Posted August 30, 2013 Author Posted August 30, 2013 My first play through was actually done as an Imperial. I felt it would be the most appropriate race to play as, given that the entire line of Septim emperors were all Imperials as well. Surely it would make more sense if the Dragonborn (which might also be the next legitimate heir to the throne) was also an Imperial. A Nord would also be the next logical choice for obvious reasons. I sided with the Empire mainly because I value law and order above all else, aside from the fact that Ulfric's argument for starting the war is pretty pathetic to begin with. Can't stand his nor Galmar's voice either. Besides, with another war with the Thalmor looming over the horizon, Ulfric's little rebellion army will get completely destroyed by the high elves and the army of other subjugated races supplementing their ranks. The Empire is really the only well-equipped, drilled, and cohesive fighting force around. Really they're Tamriel's only hope of stopping the Thalmor. Oh, and I think I saw somewhere in-game that Delphine is actually a Breton, not an Imperial. Doesn't help that Ulfric easily came off as a racist. Sure, they should be able to worship which deity they choose, and sure the Thalmor are a bunch of intolerant pricks as well for enforcing their brand of morality, but, I;ll say they don't force people to live in slums just because they aren't nords. If Ulfric was really that racist, you wouldn't see anything other than Nords in Windhelm. However it was Ulfric who gave them the Grey Quarter to live in because they were looking for shelter. Now, I see that 2 High Elves (one alchemist and one merchant) did quite well in the city, the alchemist have even a Nord apprentice. I think that the High Elf woman was right : Dark Elves are lazy. Not only here in Windhelm but everywhere : they're often tricky, sneaky backstabbers, rudes and are power-thirsty. Sure they're not all like that but still, why single persons can do well as non-Nords and they can't ? Something's not right here. The only Dark Elf that seems to have done something is the bard in the tavern of Windhelm, yes she's a Dark Elf and still very much alive despite the 2 racist beggars you see the first time in the entrance of Windhelm. Oh and did you know that Dunmers had their slave market back in Morrowind ? most of them were argonians by the way. So in a sense, argonians invading what we can call now the wasteland of Morrowind are right to do so. They were the racists and still are even in Skyrim imo. I'm not racist because even if I'm white, I'm from a black & white familly. But God, I hate those dark elves. Some are nice though, especially those in Solstheim. Also, in every city (even under imperial control) you'll never see any Khajiit who are (in my opinion) way better and funnier than argonians or elves. So no, Ulfric isn't racist despite the popular saying. Nothing proves it. Even Galmar argues about him not being racist and that every warrior is welcome under the stormcloak banner, even if it's a Nord cause because Nords are the natives of Skyrim.
Captain Cobra Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Yes, my first playthrough was an imperial male named Mr. Fister. However, being that there was no Hand to Hand skill he ended up using maces, the most fistlike of the one handed weapons.
Bloodfang Posted August 30, 2013 Author Posted August 30, 2013 Yes, my first playthrough was an imperial male named Mr. Fister. However, being that there was no Hand to Hand skill he ended up using maces, the most fistlike of the one handed weapons. I think you can find some Hand-to-Hand mods in the nexus or even here, but as far as I know they weren't quite balanced.
Koko.Hekmatyar Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 Here is my Imperial Assassin Kallista she doesn't look that bad. P.s. she has a lot of blue on her cause it was meant to be a joke as one of the Dark Brotherhood says blue gives him a headache.
kurisu7885 Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 My first play through was actually done as an Imperial. I felt it would be the most appropriate race to play as, given that the entire line of Septim emperors were all Imperials as well. Surely it would make more sense if the Dragonborn (which might also be the next legitimate heir to the throne) was also an Imperial. A Nord would also be the next logical choice for obvious reasons. I sided with the Empire mainly because I value law and order above all else, aside from the fact that Ulfric's argument for starting the war is pretty pathetic to begin with. Can't stand his nor Galmar's voice either. Besides, with another war with the Thalmor looming over the horizon, Ulfric's little rebellion army will get completely destroyed by the high elves and the army of other subjugated races supplementing their ranks. The Empire is really the only well-equipped, drilled, and cohesive fighting force around. Really they're Tamriel's only hope of stopping the Thalmor. Oh, and I think I saw somewhere in-game that Delphine is actually a Breton, not an Imperial. Doesn't help that Ulfric easily came off as a racist. Sure, they should be able to worship which deity they choose, and sure the Thalmor are a bunch of intolerant pricks as well for enforcing their brand of morality, but, I;ll say they don't force people to live in slums just because they aren't nords. If Ulfric was really that racist, you wouldn't see anything other than Nords in Windhelm. However it was Ulfric who gave them the Grey Quarter to live in because they were looking for shelter. Now, I see that 2 High Elves (one alchemist and one merchant) did quite well in the city, the alchemist have even a Nord apprentice. I think that the High Elf woman was right : Dark Elves are lazy. Not only here in Windhelm but everywhere : they're often tricky, sneaky backstabbers, rudes and are power-thirsty. Sure they're not all like that but still, why single persons can do well as non-Nords and they can't ? Something's not right here. The only Dark Elf that seems to have done something is the bard in the tavern of Windhelm, yes she's a Dark Elf and still very much alive despite the 2 racist beggars you see the first time in the entrance of Windhelm. Oh and did you know that Dunmers had their slave market back in Morrowind ? most of them were argonians by the way. So in a sense, argonians invading what we can call now the wasteland of Morrowind are right to do so. They were the racists and still are even in Skyrim imo. I'm not racist because even if I'm white, I'm from a black & white familly. But God, I hate those dark elves. Some are nice though, especially those in Solstheim. Also, in every city (even under imperial control) you'll never see any Khajiit who are (in my opinion) way better and funnier than argonians or elves. So no, Ulfric isn't racist despite the popular saying. Nothing proves it. Even Galmar argues about him not being racist and that every warrior is welcome under the stormcloak banner, even if it's a Nord cause because Nords are the natives of Skyrim. My mistake ,sorry, I guess if Ulfric had better accomodations to offer he would have. I guess it would be the Thalmor then since they see their waysas so superior.
Bloodfang Posted August 31, 2013 Author Posted August 31, 2013 My mistake ,sorry, I guess if Ulfric had better accomodations to offer he would have. I guess it would be the Thalmor then since they see their waysas so superior. Hey no problem, anyone can have his/her opinion, I just told mine I think the only problem in Windhelm it's the fact that it is the most old city in Skyrim and it explains why the city is in that shape, also the weather doesn't help. Imperials have good sides too, but I guess I watched too much of the Spartacus series to even consider being in their ranks and follow Tullius hahaha
kurisu7885 Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 My mistake ,sorry, I guess if Ulfric had better accomodations to offer he would have. I guess it would be the Thalmor then since they see their waysas so superior. Hey no problem, anyone can have his/her opinion, I just told mine I think the only problem in Windhelm it's the fact that it is the most old city in Skyrim and it explains why the city is in that shape, also the weather doesn't help. Imperials have good sides too, but I guess I watched too much of the Spartacus series to even consider being in their ranks and follow Tullius hahaha Well, giving that it's mostly stone and ice can fuck up stone...
Bloodfang Posted September 5, 2013 Author Posted September 5, 2013 There she is, I'm still hesitating between Imperials and Stormcloaks, but nevermind I'll make my decision later. What do you think ? I had to use the Kawaii face mod and a few other mods but I think that this new character is ok. ^^
Neko91 Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 My character does a lot of things she normally wouldn't do because she's working undercover -- she's a Penitus Occulatus agent. Haven't done the Civil War questline yet but she's spent plenty of time lurking in the shadows of Ulfric's palace eavesdropping on rebel plans! And Commander Maro has just ordered her to infiltrate the Companions to see which side they'll support -- normally she would have no interest in the Companions or becoming a werewolf. And she gets to wear a lot of different costumes and change her hair style/color because she's usually in disguise -- as a hunter, traveling mercenary, bard, tavern wench etc. She looks very sharp in her Penitus Occulatus armor though (the Remodeled Armor version)! ETA: And she is an Imperial -- ran away from Cyrodiil because her parents were marrying her off to an old, rich merchant in order to save their failing business -- she wanted a life of adventure and she got it!
00ptic Posted September 7, 2013 Posted September 7, 2013 I personally haven't been able to play as a race I consider to be relatively unimposing physically (e.g., races that aren't Nords, Orcs or Redguards) yet. Also in order to avoid siding with either Tullius and Ulfric, who are both highly unappealing to me, I intend to use the plugin to become High King/Queen myself. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/41087//?
javamonsoon Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 My first play through was actually done as an Imperial. I felt it would be the most appropriate race to play as, given that the entire line of Septim emperors were all Imperials as well. I'm wondering about this. According to lore, only a person with the blood of a dragon can lit the dragonfires (that keep shut the jaws of Oblivion) and be emperor. That means that all emperors were dragonborn. (supported by lore, btw) Now here's my conumdrum. 1) Player is the last known dragonborn. (Prophecied to kill the world-eater, as the wheel turns towards the last dragonborn) That means: 2)The current emperor isn't dragonborn. (Otherwise the current emperor would be the one to have to confront Alduin. The book of the Dragonborn is found in Helgen Keep well before the player emerges as a DB) Ergo: The dragonfires aren't lit. Thus: Why TF is Mehrunes Dagon sitting on his thumbs? Why is the DB as soon as he/she is identified as dragonborn, not carted off to Cyrodiil and bumped to emperor status? (In lorebooks in the game it's quite a common practice, even.) I don't play as an imperial because of that. A dragonborn imperial is like a dream come true for the empire. Yet, when you start the main quest and then go to Solitude to join the imperials... you might as well be a mere mortal. Being an imperial in TES V makes no sense at all.
00ptic Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I think there is a difference between being born with the blood of a dragon (e.g. Martin Septim) and being born with the soul of a dragon (e.g. Tiber Septim). The latter likely guarantees the former, however. This is the reason why Tiber Septim being dragonborn was significant; he had both the blood and soul of a dragon. Later on in-game, when they use the terms interchangeably, I believe it is just a minor issue of semantics.
javamonsoon Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I think there is a difference between being born with the blood of a dragon (e.g. Martin Septim) and being born with the soul of a dragon (e.g. Tiber Septim). The latter likely guarantees the former, however. This is the reason why Tiber Septim being dragonborn was significant; he had both the blood and soul of a dragon. Later on in-game, when they use the terms interchangeably, I believe it is just a minor issue of semantics. Yeah, there's that. I got the same *scratch head* feeling in Borderlands 2. Only six sirens can exist in the universe at the same time. Three of them are on the exact same planet? In an ifinite universe, three Sirens of six possible end up on Pandora at exact same time? The chances to that astronomically close to nill. Sometimes I overthink gamestories too much. Either that, or studios must start to hire writers that can keep lore consistent. It's one of the two. ^^
00ptic Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 As far as I know, Pandora is the only source of eridium, and it probably draws them subconsciously. However: I've given borderlands a pass on everything ever since it occurred to me that the player can use New-U machines but the owner of Hyperion couldn't. Their lore is somewhat inconsistent and changes whenever they want it to anyway. While they do give it some thought, they probably are more than willing to sacrifice the continuity for gameplay and comedy, especially comedy.
Deep Red Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I'm wondering about this. According to lore, only a person with the blood of a dragon can lit the dragonfires (that keep shut the jaws of Oblivion) and be emperor. That means that all emperors were dragonborn. (supported by lore, btw) Now here's my conumdrum. 1) Player is the last known dragonborn. (Prophecied to kill the world-eater, as the wheel turns towards the last dragonborn) That means: 2)The current emperor isn't dragonborn. (Otherwise the current emperor would be the one to have to confront Alduin. The book of the Dragonborn is found in Helgen Keep well before the player emerges as a DB) Ergo: The dragonfires aren't lit. Thus: Why TF is Mehrunes Dagon sitting on his thumbs? Why is the DB as soon as he/she is identified as dragonborn, not carted off to Cyrodiil and bumped to emperor status? (In lorebooks in the game it's quite a common practice, even.) I don't play as an imperial because of that. A dragonborn imperial is like a dream come true for the empire. Yet, when you start the main quest and then go to Solitude to join the imperials... you might as well be a mere mortal. Being an imperial in TES V makes no sense at all. I remember reading an in-game book about what happened after Martin Septim sacrificed himself during Oblivion. Something along the lines of someone essentially crowning himself emperor of Cyrodiil. After the whole Oblivion Crisis I think people just wanted anyone to lead them because they were left without an heir to the throne. The new line of emperors were more than likely not even related to the Septim bloodline at all, but rather your average Joe kind of people. I say it makes more sense if they Dragonborn was an Imperial because I don't think the current Emperor might even be one himself. It would be a great sigh of relief for the people of Cyrodiil to have a person of Imperial descent leading them. A Nord would would also make sense because I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) Tiber Septim was a Nord or at least part Nord. Putting an elf of any kind on the throne would be a huge no-no given the hostilities between the Aldmeri Dominion and the Empire. Crowning a khajiit or argonian would really be the biggest WTF of the century in TES lore lol. A redguard would certainly never be made emperor because the Empire had to denounce Hammerfell. A Breton would be weird, but okay I suppose since they're at least human.
Jexsam Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I'm about 80% sure that what happened with Martin and the Avatar of Akatosh at the Temple of the One had some sort of effect that nullified the need for the Dragonfires. The shattering of the Amulet of Kings had something to do with it. But damned if I can find anything on it - even UESP, my go-to source for all the lore minutiae you could want, doesn't have a page on the Dragonfires and doesn't really say anything that I can find on why they're no longer necessary. As for the present Mede dynasty and their claim to the throne. They may not be Dragonborn, but they won it the same way Tiber Septim did; conquest. Based on their family name and what I know of their first names (Attrebus, Titus), my guess is they are indeed Imperials. As for Tiber, he was a Nord. But this isn't really unusual. Nords are the root humans of Tamriel, preceded by the Nedes of Atmora, and begetting the Bretons and Imperials. Redguards are the only humans on Tamriel unrelated to Nords in some fashion (raising the question if they are even human, or if they were somehow related to Nedes in a time before the landing at Hsarik Head).
javamonsoon Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 Johnnyred, The Empire retreated from Hammerfell and awarded the Redguards self-rule. The Empire aids Hammerfell covertly still. While surrendering Hammerfell to the Redguards, the Empire discharged a lot of vets (dubbed 'war-invalids'), who went on to join the Redguards in their defeat of the Dominion. The Hammerfell army was for a part akin to the french foreign legion. I guess it is safe to say that both sides are now friends with benefits. ^^ I agree that being an Imperial Dragonborn makes sense, but it isn't supported in play. Tullius should be bending over backwards to have an Imperial Dragonborn at his side. I'm thinking that at the very least, an Imperial Dragonborn should be the cause of a civil war in Cyrodiil... I don't play Khajitti either. They're not trusted and not allowed in the cities, but here goes your DB.., walking straight up to Jarl Balgruuf and becoming Thane of Whiterun. I just can't get past the nagging feeling that something is wrong when I try to play as one. And then asking a Khajitti caravaneer to tell you more about Elsweyr... huge WTF-moment for me. A high-elf... Being a High-Elf should lock-out becoming a Stormcloak. Of course there are High-Elves who have nothing to do with the Dominion, but Ulfric should not be jumping at the chance to add one to his ranks. Bosmer... Your religion states that felling trees is a crime, enough to start a war over. You can't be friends with Gerdur and Hod... they should be your arch-enemies... And not even talking about Hearthfire-DLC as a Bosmer... Buying lumber to build your mansion... Breton... Luckily you can have a negative disposition towards the Forsworn. But sadly you can't join the cause, the game forces you to denounce your partisan brethern. Though if you roleplay a silent sympathizer, I guess that joining the Stormcloaks is a no-no. All other elves are more or less invisible/servants/living in apert poverty... Doesn't matter which side of the coin they're on. All in all, the only race that can be roleplayed without much 'but.., heeeeyyyyy...' are the Nords, in my perspective.
Kamen Rider Kuuga Posted September 12, 2013 Posted September 12, 2013 I always play as an Imperial, and I always side with the Legion. I even go so far as to murder the random farmer encounters that pop up and say they're going to join Ulfric's little pity party he calls a rebellion. But after the first play through, I never kill Ulfric; it's too far beneath me to give him that kind of satisfaction.
ElvenScoundrel Posted September 15, 2013 Posted September 15, 2013 javamonsoon, I just want to clarify something about the Bosmer religion: They're only banned from felling woods WITHIN Valenwood, as those trees are sacred to them and are probably linked to Yffre. They actually export wood from outside Valenwood to use in their craft etc, so I think it's safe to say they CAN cut wood, just not within Valenwood's borders. That said, I don't think Bosmer should be joining either side. They're too laid back and somewhat pacifistic to join either side, and seeing a Bosmer in either Imperial or Stormcloak uniform is really off-putting, IMO.
Veladarius Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I am currently playing as an Imperial and I use the Alternate Start: Live another Life mod so I usually avoid the normal opening. I used to support Ulfric most of the time when I played but after reading the info the Thalmor had on him it changed my opinion of him. Here is a picture of my Imperial: I used ECE to create the character.
Kamen Rider Kuuga Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 You should read The Bear of Markarth to find out what manner of villainous scum Ulfric is.
Caturday Posted September 22, 2013 Posted September 22, 2013 You should read The Bear of Markarth to find out what manner of villainous scum Ulfric is. eek D: I was considering joining his side, regardless of the fact that Ive had skyrim for a long time already, I never completed it, or actually did anything for the main missions, always just thief + dark brotherhood guilds =3 There she is, I'm still hesitating between Imperials and Stormcloaks, but nevermind I'll make my decision later. What do you think ? I had to use the Kawaii face mod and a few other mods but I think that this new character is ok. ^^ Shes cute. Mines an imperial too.
kungfudiesel Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Hello, I wanted to know if some people here are playing as imperials, since I may make a brand new game with a female imperial. (tanned girls ftw!) I will also surely join the stormcloaks as I think the Imperial Legion feels like... well.. imperialism. And I just disliked them since Morrowind they just want to control every single thing on Tamriel. Overall I hate their corruption, manipulation, and the false Emperors that came after Martin Septim. But I was wondering, what could bring an Imperial to join the Stormcloaks? Will they say anything about this (beside Galmar when you join them), I know that Delphine (imperial woman) and Ulfric know and I suppose respect each other. As far as I can remember I didn't come to anything related to my race as a Redguard. As a Nord however you hear people sayin' "ah a fellow nord" or "you're a disgrace to your own kind!" and stuff like that. But nothing else about my race. I'm not sure if I'll have my imperial even fight in the war, but he is against the Empire if anything; my character is self-centered, narcissistic, and has no 'racial pride' or any attachment to culture. That being said, the fact that the Empire tried to execute him while he was trying to cross the border didn't sit well with him. He generally kills legion soldiers on site; however, he doesn't care about politics, so joining either army doesn't matter to him. I've got some other ideas for actually joining them though: --He's seen how ruthless the Empire is, and feels their tyrannical reign betrays what being an Imperial is about. --He's self-centered and immature, and wants to pay them back for attempting to take his life --He is sensitive to the struggles of anyone in distress, and feels an entire culture is in danger of being lost --He has a sense of noble morality, and acts to right wrongs, no matter what factions are involved
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