SexLab Defeat

[jussmee]

yeah I agree the hideout should be a addon. thats not the main idea of the mod anyways

[TnTTnT]

When I engage an enemy in combat and reduce their health to <20%, pressing the action key (G) in my case only allows me to either kill, revive or cancel the action. Is there something I'm missing or is this what is supposed to happen? How do I trigger the other actions, such as tie up? I also can't seem to trigger the action outside of combat either. Pressing the button, even behind an NPC, does nothing.

 

Sheath your weapon.

[AwfulArchdemon]

Fully compatible with SD? When I "'lose a fight"', Defeat takes over the anims, under all circumstances. Changing the minimum health values in SD and Defeat changed nothing, and turning PC rape off still played Defeat's anims. I turned it off in the PC as victim menu, and the main settings (disabled), but it's the same shit. If I go to MCM and uninstall, there are no anims for SD, and no slavery. I've never had this problem with SD before I started using Defeat. Do you know wtf?

[moddingnoob]

I keep getting ctd when aggressor strips my character, works for followers.  Also, defeat seems to have trouble recognizing when health is below threshold.  I was not having these problems earlier, so it has to be an issue with my load order or maybe some floating around scripts of deleted mods.  I don't know how to read the logs, can someone help me?

[D_ManXX2]

btw part of hideout is still active. when i go into sneak mode i can tell companion to abduct npc, i did not use the option but it is still there.

[azmodan22]

Ok i have found some problems

 

1. In the MCM menu "ALL DOWN" appears as "$ALL DOWN" and it does not work. Only the player enters bleed out state but the aggressor do not rape her

2. In the "ORIGINAL" scenario, both the player and the companion enters bleed out but none of them is raped. aggressors just stand there.

4. In the "No Transition" scenarion player enter bleed out, raped, but only by the aggressor. no threesomes or turns. Follower is also not affected (stops fighting but not raped)

 

any ideas?

 

 

 

[magicrealm]

Heya!

 

Three questions:

I wondered if there is something you could do about what happens after rape, something like a standing up animation... I tried using the ragdoll option, but that resulted in victims getting violently smashed away after action (looks pretty funny, though). Or, if beeing tormented multiple times, not beeing able to stand up at all for a few seconds. Like in Morrowind, after getting beaten up, which resulted in beeing knocked out for a few seconds.

 

The second thing is that the animation with spiders is now totally displaced. It was fine before I updated.

 

And I've got an issue with creatures sometimes floating on the ground after animation (noticed it with Draugrs and Falmers, so far). Is there something I can do about?

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Spiders and draugr Floating flat on the flöoor is what i am writing since two weeks. i would like to have some explabation for that. im very near to make a cross in allow creatures.]

[magicrealm]

Fully compatible with SD? When I "'lose a fight"', Defeat takes over the anims, under all circumstances. Changing the minimum health values in SD and Defeat changed nothing, and turning PC rape off still played Defeat's anims. I turned it off in the PC as victim menu, and the main settings (disabled), but it's the same shit. If I go to MCM and uninstall, there are no anims for SD, and no slavery. I've never had this problem with SD before I started using Defeat. Do you know wtf?

 

there is a small Chance, if you set threshold for Player as victim with Minimum health 1%. in sd you set 0% health.

so lets say, from 20-1% you get defeat rape, at hits under 0% sanguine gets you.

 

sd is very sensitive and will break easy, spreading whatever Trouble into other mods. dont use it anymore.

 

i dislike sd because you cant Keep your equip. you have to fight it back somehow and reorder it, what a mess. and the Trouble if the maaster is at stairs, in a dark corner, in a tent. plus the Trouble with the followers.

best would be, if sd would disable capture from low health, only by capitulation. plus the possibility to disable sd shortly (or enable it shortly), plus only bosses can capture the pc. but that will never be the case, so sd is just a very annoying, disturbing, misaligning gamebreaker. sadly.

 

i wrote goobu to bring zaz animations into defeat, i wrote ashal to bring zaz animations into sexlab, doesnt look like they are happy about that idea.

[johnny2by4]

just installed and i have a bug.  its a new character and i just entered the tutorial dungeon, i activated this mod after the very first fight.  entered the second fight (area with cages and the torturer) and when i try to kill the torturer all that happens is he kneels down.  i can't kill him even when i activate (hiting E i think) and select kill, smacking him around some more doesn't work.  wouldn't bother me so much, but reliogh (what ever the nord prisoner is named) won't exit a battle stance and continue on.

 

i wonder, is this because of some scripted event found in the tutorial dungeon?  should i deactivate the mod until i'm outside the dungeon?

[AwfulArchdemon]

 @magicrealm: 

 

 

 

 

there is a small Chance, if you set threshold for Player as victim with Minimum health 1%. in sd you set 0% health.
so lets say, from 20-1% you get defeat rape, at hits under 0% sanguine gets you.

sd is very sensitive and will break easy, spreading whatever Trouble into other mods. dont use it anymore.

i dislike sd because you cant Keep your equip. you have to fight it back somehow and reorder it, what a mess. and the Trouble if the maaster is at stairs, in a dark corner, in a tent. plus the Trouble with the followers.
best would be, if sd would disable capture from low health, only by capitulation. plus the possibility to disable sd shortly (or enable it shortly), plus only bosses can capture the pc. but that will never be the case, so sd is just a very annoying, disturbing, misaligning gamebreaker. sadly.

i wrote goobu to bring zaz animations into defeat, i wrote ashal to bring zaz animations into sexlab, doesnt look like they are happy about that idea. 

I tried with each health setting. I tried every setting I have in each mod, which includes uninstalling (from MCM) Defeat, but SD stopped letting slavery work entirely. So far, that's the only thing that's not working right.

 

 

In SD, I like the alternative to death, but it's not the main reason I use it. It's everything I want in a mod. From being tied up, to punishment, to begging for food at a "price", to needing master to provide you with clothes (if you use Frostfall), rape, alternate ways to get free, spriggan armor and the whole spriggan mission, having to follow master, the others having their way with you, a demerit system, coveted, gold for the wicked...just a million things I want in a slave mod.

 

I've had tons of fun getting my armor back from the master. The second those binds are free, I just eliminate the competition with a not-so-friendly firestorm, and snag my armor off the corpse. Also gives me a way to improve my pickpocketing, without getting thugs sent after me.

 

SD works fine for me without Defeat. Slavery seems to be the only thing that dies when using Defeat. I'm torn, but if I had to choose 1 or the other, as many times I've used the mod.... I'd still have to pick SD. In fact, there's not a doubt about it. I friggin LOVE SD!

 

Yes, I know Defeat is just plain awesome. Hell yeah it works well. But seriously, all of these problems everyone else is having with SD is just surprising. I've had no problems with it, aside from the thugs taking me to places that were hard to navigate while under the game's full control (auto-walking up steps), or hard to get laid in due to furniture and steps. And, the spriggan quest doesn't say it's completed when I complete the quest, but it still let's me do the full quest again. That's it, and that's perfectly fine with me.

 

I just have to stick with my favorite mod. Defeat is badass, but it can't cost me my precious.

 

[warriorsage]

just installed and i have a bug.  its a new character and i just entered the tutorial dungeon, i activated this mod after the very first fight.  entered the second fight (area with cages and the torturer) and when i try to kill the torturer all that happens is he kneels down.  i can't kill him even when i activate (hiting E i think) and select kill, smacking him around some more doesn't work.  wouldn't bother me so much, but reliogh (what ever the nord prisoner is named) won't exit a battle stance and continue on.

 

i wonder, is this because of some scripted event found in the tutorial dungeon?  should i deactivate the mod until i'm outside the dungeon

 

Did you pick Hadvar or Ralof?  If you picked Hadvar, my guess is the torturer is marked essential.  If you picked Ralof, well, you're SUPPOSED to kill the torturer.  

 

In any case, turn off NPC vs NPC rapes.  Like, entirely.  You can turn it on when you go back outside, though personally I just leave it off.  I do find however that the escape dungeon, the NPC's are pretty scaled down, so you really shouldn't be knocked down by them anyhow (unless you just suck at the game, hah).  

[johnny2by4]

picked Ralof so i should be able to kill the guy, instead he just kneels down when i beat him close to death and selecting the kill option doesn't seem to work.  tried turning off npc vs npc and the guy still kneels, though i might have been the one to beat him to 'near' death... so i guess i will try that again. 

 

edit: nvm, it's not even this mod.  tried disabling it from nmm and reloading before the fight and he still nelt down instead of dying, maybe its submit.

 

edit2: and submit isn't it either.  tried to reload with both mods disabled and still got the same damn problem.  guess i'll try a new character and see if that helps, than maybe try skipping stages.

[allsop2604]

Is there anyway to get my summoned familiar to rape a NPC ether automatically or on command?

[AwfulArchdemon]

picked Ralof so i should be able to kill the guy, instead he just kneels down when i beat him close to death and selecting the kill option doesn't seem to work.  tried turning off npc vs npc and the guy still kneels, though i might have been the one to beat him to 'near' death... so i guess i will try that again. 

 

edit: nvm, it's not even this mod.  tried disabling it from nmm and reloading before the fight and he still nelt down instead of dying, maybe its submit.

 

edit2: and submit isn't it either.  tried to reload with both mods disabled and still got the same damn problem.  guess i'll try a new character and see if that helps, than maybe try skipping stages.

You can't kill Ralof at the beginning of the game, and I'm not sure if you can kill him after either. He is marked essential, and cannot die, because he's a part of the Civil War quest. Just like you can't kill Delphine. Beating on Ralof is an excellent way to level up, though. He won't even fight back until you've exited the cave. Then stop hitting him.

[DFC]

Ok i have found some problems

 

1. In the MCM menu "ALL DOWN" appears as "$ALL DOWN" and it does not work. Only the player enters bleed out state but the aggressor do not rape her

2. In the "ORIGINAL" scenario, both the player and the companion enters bleed out but none of them is raped. aggressors just stand there.

4. In the "No Transition" scenarion player enter bleed out, raped, but only by the aggressor. no threesomes or turns. Follower is also not affected (stops fighting but not raped)

 

any ideas?

I'm having the same problem, but at no transition I just enter bleed out and dont get raped.

[azmodan22]

 

Ok i have found some problems

 

1. In the MCM menu "ALL DOWN" appears as "$ALL DOWN" and it does not work. Only the player enters bleed out state but the aggressor do not rape her

2. In the "ORIGINAL" scenario, both the player and the companion enters bleed out but none of them is raped. aggressors just stand there.

4. In the "No Transition" scenarion player enter bleed out, raped, but only by the aggressor. no threesomes or turns. Follower is also not affected (stops fighting but not raped)

 

any ideas?

I'm having the same problem, but at no transition I just enter bleed out and dont get raped.

 

 

Have you updated to the latest FNIS? 4.1 seems to work better.

 

Even with 4.1 however, the pc sometimes enters bleed out (original scenario) but she is not raped. Overall however it works

 

I am also quite confident that "$ALL DOWN" is caused by SexLab_Aroused_v20131213_Experimental,

[Guest itsthesheppy]

Alright, I've read through most of this thread and seen other people post with my issue, and not get a response, so my hopes are not high. But! I will try anyway!

 

I installed this mod off a fresh install and confirmed that my SexLab, SkyUI, SKSE, and FNIS are all the latest versions. I installed this mod using a clean save, and FNIS says everything checks out, animations wise. 

 

And yet, this mod just doesn't seem to want to work. When I hit the threshold, my character drops their weapon and puts up their dukes. Hit more and they go into a downed state. Nothing else happens. No prompts, no options. The enemy continues to attack and nothing else happens. 

 

I'm stumped! I've tried a great many things, but I'm hoping at least one other person has experienced my issue and knows a work-around!

[AwfulArchdemon]

Alright, I've read through most of this thread and seen other people post with my issue, and not get a response, so my hopes are not high. But! I will try anyway!

 

I installed this mod off a fresh install and confirmed that my SexLab, SkyUI, SKSE, and FNIS are all the latest versions. I installed this mod using a clean save, and FNIS says everything checks out, animations wise. 

 

And yet, this mod just doesn't seem to want to work. When I hit the threshold, my character drops their weapon and puts up their dukes. Hit more and they go into a downed state. Nothing else happens. No prompts, no options. The enemy continues to attack and nothing else happens. 

 

I'm stumped! I've tried a great many things, but I'm hoping at least one other person has experienced my issue and knows a work-around!

Using any other (sex) mods?

[Kyle873]

Is this compatible with the new SL 1.3?

[Buddy16]

i tested defeat with sl 1.3 for 3 hours now and i think it is compatible but i only get the old masturbation animation not the new one from bleagh

[kamon211]

hey guys, some questions...

i've got Arousal, Defeat, and LoversVictim up and running, everything seems to be working good...

 

I like Defeat, its some insentive to NOT reload a save after things start going bad,

but is there anything I can do to escape after my PC gets defeated? Id like to be able to run away after and come back for revenge lol.

Or are you supposed to die after the attack every time?

[DFC]

 

Alright, I've read through most of this thread and seen other people post with my issue, and not get a response, so my hopes are not high. But! I will try anyway!

 

I installed this mod off a fresh install and confirmed that my SexLab, SkyUI, SKSE, and FNIS are all the latest versions. I installed this mod using a clean save, and FNIS says everything checks out, animations wise. 

 

And yet, this mod just doesn't seem to want to work. When I hit the threshold, my character drops their weapon and puts up their dukes. Hit more and they go into a downed state. Nothing else happens. No prompts, no options. The enemy continues to attack and nothing else happens. 

 

I'm stumped! I've tried a great many things, but I'm hoping at least one other person has experienced my issue and knows a work-around!

Using any other (sex) mods?

 

I have the exact same problem as this guy except for me the enemy just stands there, and I did not have this problem 1 month ago. 

I wanted to go back to skyrim, so I installed it again and SexLab and this mod and now it doesn't work, it must be a problem with the newer updates.

Either it's the newer version of SexLab or Defeat, or both.

 

Just to make sure i'm gonna install an older version of SexLab and Defeat.

 

*EDIT* Uninstalled SexLab and Defeat then I installed SexLab v124 and Defeat 4.1 and everything is working perfectly now. So there is a problem with the newest update, I would recommend using earlier version of SexLab.

[Rhino281]

I have a slight problem/question, i am against a lvl 1 NPC, sneaking from behind out of combat and yet i get upper right corner 0% resist (or something like that), any idea which option i should change, i have tried pretty much every option.

[AwfulArchdemon]

I have the exact same problem as this guy except for me the enemy just stands there, and I did not have this problem 1 month ago. 

I wanted to go back to skyrim, so I installed it again and SexLab and this mod and now it doesn't work, it must be a problem with the newer updates.

Either it's the newer version of SexLab or Defeat, or both.

 

Just to make sure i'm gonna install an older version of SexLab and Defeat.

 

*EDIT* Uninstalled SexLab and Defeat then I installed SexLab v124 and Defeat 4.1 and everything is working perfectly now. So there is a problem with the newest update, I would recommend using earlier version of SexLab.

 

 

@DFC:

I agree. It's sexlab itself. The same thing happened to me in Submit, and slavery stopped and being essential stopped working in SD. I've had no problem with Defeat though. It seems to be the only mod that's working perfectly right now.

[wardrake]

I'm running the current sexlab v1.30 and defeat v4.2.1, with no problems. (except for one) i am also running Beeing female. I am getting a miniature creature (a chicken) only when using both together. It has only appeared in my hearthfire (Unfurnished, no Steward home) at the moment) when i used console commands to place a hostile npc. This mini chicken draws the hostile away interrupting the defeat animation.