SexLab Defeat

[jlttsmiley]

i have trouble with the mod, companion always got knocked down for 30 seconds eventhough i already change the setting from "All-Down" to something else. anyone have ideas?

JUST ASKING:  When you change the setting did you do a HARD SAVE. ALSO I have it best to do MCM save changes in a small cell away from enemies

[SimpleLife]

Not sure if I have a bad setting or not, but im having issues with guards.  If they defeat my character, they will walk up to her, then stop, my character would standup again, and they will continue attacking.  This repeats forever. If my character surrenders, the dialogue will progress fine, and if she submits, the animations will start (although other guards will start attacking right away) if she resists, then back to the standup/attack/standup etc.

 

No one else having issues with guards?

[chukkyjr]

 

i have trouble with the mod, companion always got knocked down for 30 seconds eventhough i already change the setting from "All-Down" to something else. anyone have ideas?

JUST ASKING:  When you change the setting did you do a HARD SAVE. ALSO I have it best to do MCM save changes in a small cell away from enemies

 

 

good point, i didn't. Might try later, in the worst case maybe all i had to do just reinstall the mod. i will report later on the finding.

 

EDIT : btw why do FNIS read sexlab defeat as "Reading SexLabDefeat V?.? ..." is this probably the cause of the error?

 

EDIT 2 : did a clean reinstall, problem still persist, might try to uninstall several other mods which might be conflicting (i got Submit too, but i kinda doubt its a mod conflic issue), oh yea the side effect of this bug is creature aggressive animation will never start, though the creature animation is indeed installed OK since i tested it with matchmaker, hentai creatures etc.

[Guest]

I've got a problem though I'm unsure if it's Defeat's fault. When my character gets raped a second time in a row the ragdoll animation plays and then my char stays on the ground as if she had died, the game doesn't freeze as I am able to open menus and load saves and the other npcs are doing their thing, it's just my character who is stuck in ragdoll animation.

 

However, the same happens if my character gets raped during any "Prison Overhaul" 's events which is why I have my doubts regarding the issue.

 

P.D: I'm using xp32 extended version 2.24 and Realistic Force setting for "Realistic Ragdolls and Force"

[nutluck]

I've got a problem though I'm unsure if it's Defeat's fault. When my character gets raped a second time in a row the ragdoll animation plays and then my char stays on the ground as if she had died, the game doesn't freeze as I am able to open menus and load saves and the other npcs are doing their thing, it's just my character who is stuck in ragdoll animation.

 

However, the same happens if my character gets raped during any "Prison Overhaul" 's events which is why I have my doubts regarding the issue.

 

P.D: I'm using xp32 extended version 2.24 and Realistic Force setting for "Realistic Ragdolls and Force"

 

Turn off the ragdoll after sex in sexlab.

 

I use both that skeleton and realistic ragdolls and force mod as well and have no issues.

[dysfunkshunal]

I am playing a female PC, and every time I get knocked down, she falls to the ground and the attacker walks away. The game is then stuck. She cannot get up, she gains no health, the camera can't even move. Any idea what mods might conflict with this? Is there a suggested load order? I have my sex mods in this order:
 

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

SexLab.esm
SexLab Aroused.esm

SexLabDefeat.esp

SexLabRomance.esp
NonSesLabAnimationPack.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp

DeviousDeviants.esp

 

I tried moving it around in my load order, but I keep seeing the same thing. One time, she DID get raped and he finished, but the same thing happened. She lay in a ball this time, and he just walked away. I could not move, nor did I see the white bar for trying to escape (and everything is toggled properly in the menu).

 

I am running all current versions of SKSE, FNIS, SexLab, etc. Thanks in advance for any help.

[Guest]

 

I've got a problem though I'm unsure if it's Defeat's fault. When my character gets raped a second time in a row the ragdoll animation plays and then my char stays on the ground as if she had died, the game doesn't freeze as I am able to open menus and load saves and the other npcs are doing their thing, it's just my character who is stuck in ragdoll animation.

 

However, the same happens if my character gets raped during any "Prison Overhaul" 's events which is why I have my doubts regarding the issue.

 

P.D: I'm using xp32 extended version 2.24 and Realistic Force setting for "Realistic Ragdolls and Force"

 

Turn off the ragdoll after sex in sexlab.

 

I use both that skeleton and realistic ragdolls and force mod as well and have no issues.

 

 

Thanks alot! It worked! I'm not sure what is causing the issue with ragdoll animation though.

[chukkyjr]

 

 

i have trouble with the mod, companion always got knocked down for 30 seconds eventhough i already change the setting from "All-Down" to something else. anyone have ideas?

JUST ASKING:  When you change the setting did you do a HARD SAVE. ALSO I have it best to do MCM save changes in a small cell away from enemies

 

 

good point, i didn't. Might try later, in the worst case maybe all i had to do just reinstall the mod. i will report later on the finding.

 

EDIT : btw why do FNIS read sexlab defeat as "Reading SexLabDefeat V?.? ..." is this probably the cause of the error?

 

EDIT 2 : did a clean reinstall, problem still persist, might try to uninstall several other mods which might be conflicting (i got Submit too, but i kinda doubt its a mod conflic issue), oh yea the side effect of this bug is creature aggressive animation will never start, though the creature animation is indeed installed OK since i tested it with matchmaker, hentai creatures etc.

 

 

looks like resetting animation registry from sexlab does the work, so far creatures from defeat is working again

[nutluck]

 

Thanks alot! It worked! I'm not sure what is causing the issue with ragdoll animation though.

 

You're welcome, it is known to happen. I am not sure anyone has ever been able to figure it out. But since it doesn't happen for everyone. Best guess is a mod conflict of some sort.

[chukkyjr]

 

 

looks like resetting animation registry from sexlab does the work, so far creatures from defeat is working again

 

 

i celebrate too soon, the issue now happens randomly

[zupra]

I was using DA with this mod and the good thing about it was that my PC could never die. Now without it if she gets too big hits she just dies. Is there any fix for that?

[Pheade]

I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, but after an hour skimming through pages I haven't really seen anything like it.

When using this mod's necrophilia option, the corses always start to see-saw a few moments into the animation. Rotating the scene calms the corpse down for a few seconds, but then it starts to flip again and it looks like the picture posted (only the body is constantly moving from to prone to... ..not...prone).

Does anyone have a fix for this? Is this an issue with mod itself? With the skeleton? I love my necromancers, and they love their corpses, and I always die a little inside when the dead guy starts acting like this.

 

 

 

Also, I apologize for using the file attachment system; I still haven't found a file-hosting site that I prefer.

 

If anyone can help, I'd be deeply appreciative.

 

Regards,

Pheade

[evilnigero]

Hello, when I'm using the mod I go to rape a person and it does a little moving animation then nothing happens how can I fix this?

[nutluck]

@Pheade It only does it on necro actions from Defeat? That is weird, honestly never even heard of that before. But since it is happening during the animation that seems more of a sexlab issue than Defeat, since all defeat does is act as a trigger to tell sexlab to start the animations.

 

@Evilnigero Do the animations work with other mods?

[chukkyjr]

anyone have idea to make creature rape works on female companions too? i've done that a few versions ago easily, but now companions only knocked down, and enemy ignores them

[nutluck]

anyone have idea to make creature rape works on female companions too? i've done that a few versions ago easily, but now companions only knocked down, and enemy ignores them

 

Do you have animals/creatures on Followers selected? There is a toggle to turn it on and off. make sure it is toggled on. By default it is toggled off I believe.

[chukkyjr]

 

anyone have idea to make creature rape works on female companions too? i've done that a few versions ago easily, but now companions only knocked down, and enemy ignores them

 

Do you have animals/creatures on Followers selected? There is a toggle to turn it on and off. make sure it is toggled on. By default it is toggled off I believe.

 

 

yea everything is checked fine, in fact it used to work, but only on certain enemies, so far i've only seen it constantly works on giants

 

on the other hand, testing using Hentai creatures starts the animation just fine, so i'm sure it isn't the problem with animation registry, settings or something

[nutluck]

I don't know it works fine for me, if I have a follower and the PC and follower go down to 2 wolves. Then each one is taken by a wolf.

[chukkyjr]

guess i try to post my load order, someone might notice something

 

 

 

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Sakura_Boots(neuner09).esp=1

Sakura_Summer_outfit(neuner09).esp=1

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i've tried clean install sexlab and every other mods that relate to that, still no success, load order problem maybe?

 

EDIT : i just noticed my PC never triggers Health threshold from defeat (i've alr checked it twice to make sure it is on), submitting works though, anyone have ideas?

[nutluck]

Well sounds like you have something wrong with defeat. Have you tried a brand new character and seen if defeat works then?

[chukkyjr]

^not yet, haven't installed the alternate start mod, i even tried to re-install defeat, anything but the creature and PC knock down doesn't work, NPC vs NPC and NPC vs PC works though (using submit option)

[Goubo]

The necrophilia problem is a problem with the ragdoll, starting a SL scene on a inconscious/dead NPC can make bugs like Pheade described, I did not find any good solution for that yet, seems limited because of the way Skyrim handle the ragdoll but if you have a way to do it properly tell me.

 

About guards, I have excluded them in the script because it would make incompatibilities with the fact that they talk to you right away asking you to surrender and shit, I did not take care of that for Surrender though apparently, I'll make some tests about that.

 

chukkyjr -> Can you take a look at the papyrus log to look for errors? Maybe the Multiple function is not working properly so your char get up because the script couldn't trigger the sex scene, also make sure that in NPC vs NPC the settings are right if your follower is ignored.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[chukkyjr]

]i'll try later, have to find a pre-spawned creatures by the game just to make sure the log will be valid

 

EDIT : Here's a log in which my follower knocked down, yet the falmer instantly switch target to me (i paused the game immediately and do a quicksave)

 

NPC Creature Rape is on and i do have those animations installed (tried with Hentai Creatures/Falmer)

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

 

 

 

 

[Pheade]

The necrophilia problem is a problem with the ragdoll, starting a SL scene on a inconscious/dead NPC can make bugs like Pheade described, I did not find any good solution for that yet, seems limited because of the way Skyrim handle the ragdoll but if you have a way to do it properly tell me.

 

From the man himself!!! Thank you so much for an amazing mod, sir. You are an artist.

Though I haven't found a permanent solution to this issue, I did a lot of testing last night. It seems the corpse is more likely to behave for the duration of the animation after very carefully arranging the body as close to flat on its back as possible. I noticed this after running the necro anims after placing the body in many and various poses, and realizing that frequently, this see-saw motion looked like the body constantly switching from prone (for cowgirl animations) to its 'dead' position.

I don't know if that helps at all, but at least for now it works more or less as desired.

 

And thank you again for such a great mod!

 

Regards,

Pheade

[jlttsmiley]

 

 

anyone have idea to make creature rape works on female companions too? i've done that a few versions ago easily, but now companions only knocked down, and enemy ignores them

 

Do you have animals/creatures on Followers selected? There is a toggle to turn it on and off. make sure it is toggled on. By default it is toggled off I believe.

 

 

yea everything is checked fine, in fact it used to work, but only on certain enemies, so far i've only seen it constantly works on giants

 

on the other hand, testing using Hentai creatures starts the animation just fine, so i'm sure it isn't the problem with animation registry, settings or something

 

Do you have MORALITY checked some npc , creature will not comment a crime quote : LYDIA NO , CAN,T DO THAT if rape is seen as a crime then MORALITY option can prevent it from happenning