Sexlab Submit 01SEP14 1133

[germanicus]

Thank you very much for the update.

[Srende]

Not sure if this has been mentioned in all the pages I didn't go through, but when using the hotkey to surrender in combat, all the gear (& items) on my follower just disappears. As in, it gets stripped & removed from their inventory properly, but any of the assailants never actually get it in their inventory.

[dkatryl]

Not sure if this has been mentioned in all the pages I didn't go through, but when using the hotkey to surrender in combat, all the gear (& items) on my follower just disappears. As in, it gets stripped & removed from their inventory properly, but any of the assailants never actually get it in their inventory.

Hrm, odd.  Your follower getting stripped if you have it so that the player also gets stripped is intended, and I haven't tested this in a few months, since I don't actually use the player surrender portion and I don't usually run with followers, but the last time I checked it, their gear went to one of the two assailants.

 

I'll take another look, see if something happened.

[friffy]

Hi dkatryl, tested your new version in the bannered mare, a "save haven" for an instant crash if trying to save in any way after consensual and guess what happend???

 

IT WORKED

 

Thank you so much!!! 

 

[dkatryl]

Hi dkatryl, tested your new version in the bannered mare, a "save haven" for an instant crash if trying to save in any way after consensual and guess what happend???

 

IT WORKED

 

Thank you so much!!! 

Good to hear.  I never got the crash, so I can't even begin to explain what was the fault.  However, debug logs that were posted all seemed to reference lines within the PostCoilalBliss function that were within a While loop.

 

I don't know why that would cause a CTD, and I don't experience it, and it isn't like there aren't other while loops used in both Submit and Sexlab in general (Not to mention Skyrim!), but I changed it to a more crude system did not use a While loop.

 

So, I figured it would work, but since I didn't have the CTD to test against, it was just an educated guess.  Glad to hear it is now playable.

[friffy]

 

I don't know why that would cause a CTD, and I don't experience it, and it isn't like there aren't other while loops used in both Submit and Sexlab in general (Not to mention Skyrim!), but I changed it to a more crude system did not use a While loop.

 

So, I figured it would work, but since I didn't have the CTD to test against, it was just an educated guess.  Glad to hear it is now playable.

 

 

We're talking about Skyrim, aren't we ? 

 

[dkatryl]

 

 

I don't know why that would cause a CTD, and I don't experience it, and it isn't like there aren't other while loops used in both Submit and Sexlab in general (Not to mention Skyrim!), but I changed it to a more crude system did not use a While loop.

 

So, I figured it would work, but since I didn't have the CTD to test against, it was just an educated guess.  Glad to hear it is now playable.

 

 

We're talking about Skyrim, aren't we ? 

 

Doesn't even hold a candle to Daggerbug, err, I mean Daggerfall.  And I played the shit out of that game, bugs and all.

 

I remember back when that game was new, and a "full" install was ~450mb, and that pretty much took my entire laptop's hard drive.

 

I also remember when I played Arena, and that was installed on something like 8 3.5" floppies.  Lol

[bob11]

 

 

 

I don't know why that would cause a CTD, and I don't experience it, and it isn't like there aren't other while loops used in both Submit and Sexlab in general (Not to mention Skyrim!), but I changed it to a more crude system did not use a While loop.

 

So, I figured it would work, but since I didn't have the CTD to test against, it was just an educated guess.  Glad to hear it is now playable.

 

 

We're talking about Skyrim, aren't we ? 

 

Doesn't even hold a candle to Daggerbug, err, I mean Daggerfall.  And I played the shit out of that game, bugs and all.

 

I remember back when that game was new, and a "full" install was ~450mb, and that pretty much took my entire laptop's hard drive.

 

I also remember when I played Arena, and that was installed on something like 8 3.5" floppies.  Lol

 

 

Nothing can beat Daggerfall.  Ok, it could, Daggerfall with Sexlab, but whatever xP

 

[DMCDante]

I have detected a rather small bug with the latest version, playing a female PC, and checking the option to make female PCs/followers assume the victim role does not work. Wether it's checked or not, my character always rapes males with a strap on, hilarious.

 

Not really a big problem as it just takes 1 key press to reverse roles but I thought I'd mention it.

 

Great work, two thumbs up.

[friffy]

 

 

 

 

Doesn't even hold a candle to Daggerbug, err, I mean Daggerfall.  And I played the shit out of that game, bugs and all.

 

I remember back when that game was new, and a "full" install was ~450mb, and that pretty much took my entire laptop's hard drive.

 

I also remember when I played Arena, and that was installed on something like 8 3.5" floppies.  Lol

 

Oh, I started with morrowind and the only bug I had - it took me almost two years till I could affort the pc that could handle it ... (always the same ... too much mods ...)

[dkatryl]

I have detected a rather small bug with the latest version, playing a female PC, and checking the option to make female PCs/followers assume the victim role does not work. Wether it's checked or not, my character always rapes males with a strap on, hilarious.

 

Not really a big problem as it just takes 1 key press to reverse roles but I thought I'd mention it.

 

Great work, two thumbs up.

 

I never really understood the attraction to that option.  If a woman defeats some male bandit that was looking to rape/rob/kill her (not necessarily in that order), letting him fuck her seems like a really odd way to punish him.

 

That said, I figured it would only be a day or two before someone brought it up, proving that, despite it boggling my own mind, people do indeed use it.  And in that, my prediction was pretty spot on!

 

The reason why it didn't work is... drumroll... I didn't add in the MCM check/swap code!  The actor list setup for a generic StartSex() call and the manual Thread setup is different, with the latter being required to set the undress animation off for the victims.

 

I didn't set it simply because I wasn't sure how to do it as of Sunday, and I didn't want to delay the update over a small detail, especially when there was a CTD fix that needed to go up for certain 'lucky' users regarding the Post Coital Bliss function.

 

Once I take the time to get a handle on how to set it up for that as well, I will add it back in.

[Teruke]

your logic works if it were a real woman getting assaulted or if a female player is playing a female character, however most of us are straight male players and i suppose most of us can't relate to being poked up the black hole by some chick with a strap-on, so that means we don't wanna have contact with such content, being video wise or gaming wise. Think of the various mods with ignore sex checks option, straight players will play the game with this option off.

[Kawauso]

I was thinking, what if for the speechcraft check we added a bonus/malus depending on whether you are wearing nothing/clothes/light armor or heavy armor ?

[friffy]

your logic works if it were a real woman getting assaulted or if a female player is playing a female character, however most of us are straight male players and i suppose most of us can't relate to being poked up the black hole by some chick with a strap-on, so that means we don't wanna have contact with such content, being video wise or gaming wise. Think of the various mods with ignore sex checks option, straight players will play the game with this option off.

 

So much for all that "I like this mod cause it's sooo needed for the Immersion ..." And that brings up another question. if most of  the players are straight male, why they are mostly playing female chars? Oh, of course, for the immersion 

 

[bob11]

 

your logic works if it were a real woman getting assaulted or if a female player is playing a female character, however most of us are straight male players and i suppose most of us can't relate to being poked up the black hole by some chick with a strap-on, so that means we don't wanna have contact with such content, being video wise or gaming wise. Think of the various mods with ignore sex checks option, straight players will play the game with this option off.

 

So much for all that "I like this mod cause it's sooo needed for the Immersion ..." And that brings up another question. if most of  the players are straight male, why they are mostly playing female chars? Oh, of course, for the immersion 

 

 

 

Must be just me turning all my female chars lesbian then xP  But seriously, dk's logic works better.

[dkatryl]

 

 

your logic works if it were a real woman getting assaulted or if a female player is playing a female character, however most of us are straight male players and i suppose most of us can't relate to being poked up the black hole by some chick with a strap-on, so that means we don't wanna have contact with such content, being video wise or gaming wise. Think of the various mods with ignore sex checks option, straight players will play the game with this option off.

 

So much for all that "I like this mod cause it's sooo needed for the Immersion ..." And that brings up another question. if most of  the players are straight male, why they are mostly playing female chars? Oh, of course, for the immersion 

 

 

 

Must be just me turning all my female chars lesbian then xP  But seriously, dk's logic works better.

 

Yeah, I figured people would just do what I do, play whatever gender they want, and then only target victims of their preferred gender, whether it was male and/or female.  (i.e. If they were straight males playing a female character, they'd only target female victims for teh s3xx0rz)  It makes no real difference to me, at most I just give it a  reaction, but I'm definitely a straight male myself that comes from the school of "whatever floats your boat"

 

And all that said, I poked Ashal yesterday on the subject, and he helped me see the obvious (I was trying to add the actors and THEN use the SortActor() function, as I did with the StartSex() process, when actually, I should have used the SortActor() property first, and THEN used the AddActor() function) so this functionality should be back to how it was prior to the most recent update once more.

 

The only other thing I am looking to do before updating is I want to make the player surrender 3-way default to the Arrok Devil's 3-way (FMM), because that is the only one of the 2 existing 3-way animations that feels 'nonconsensual' towards the actor in the middle, while the Arrok Tricycle (FFM) looks a bit too consensual to be fitting for the player being forced by two assailants.  Especially if both assailants are male, and then that means at least one of them goes on his knees to service the other dude, which definitely rates a "huh, I guess those bandits have a special relationship  "

[Fredfish]

So that's what Prime Minister David Cameron means when he says "Britain has a special relationship with America"

[Itski]

your logic works if it were a real woman getting assaulted or if a female player is playing a female character, however most of us are straight male players and i suppose most of us can't relate to being poked up the black hole by some chick with a strap-on, so that means we don't wanna have contact with such content, being video wise or gaming wise. Think of the various mods with ignore sex checks option, straight players will play the game with this option off.

 

While it's true that I can't relate to being poked up the black hole, i find it a fitting punishment for bandits

[dkatryl]

So that's what Prime Minister David Cameron means when he says "Britain has a special relationship with America"

So now, gentle reader, allow me to present to you the mental imagery of David Cameron, Barack Obama, and, eh, let's go with François Hollande of France, all engaged in Arrok's Tricycle animation.

 

You are welcome.

[srayesmanll]

 

So that's what Prime Minister David Cameron means when he says "Britain has a special relationship with America"

So now, gentle reader, allow me to present to you the mental imagery of David Cameron, Barack Obama, and, eh, let's go with François Hollande of France, all engaged in Arrok's Tricycle animation.

 

You are welcome.

 

 

Damn your eyes, man!!!

[Lodakai]

I submit!  make it stop!

[bob11]

 

So that's what Prime Minister David Cameron means when he says "Britain has a special relationship with America"

So now, gentle reader, allow me to present to you the mental imagery of David Cameron, Barack Obama, and, eh, let's go with François Hollande of France, all engaged in Arrok's Tricycle animation.

 

You are welcome.

 

 

You could add that to the coercion dialogue, then tell Ashal to add a mindrape animation

[jlttsmiley]

 

your logic works if it were a real woman getting assaulted or if a female player is playing a female character, however most of us are straight male players and i suppose most of us can't relate to being poked up the black hole by some chick with a strap-on, so that means we don't wanna have contact with such content, being video wise or gaming wise. Think of the various mods with ignore sex checks option, straight players will play the game with this option off.

 

So much for all that "I like this mod cause it's sooo needed for the Immersion ..." And that brings up another question. if most of  the players are straight male, why they are mostly playing female chars? Oh, of course, for the immersion 

 

 

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[Guest kimbale]

Oh, guys, i gotta jump in at this point. I play a female werewolf raping males in the wilderness out of sheer wildness. I might need to add that i am myself female. And i NEED to get back into animating to make some animations for that...

 

And while i'm here... I love the mod! I use it a lot, chatting up hot guys with the dialogue options or saving my characters ass .... eeerrrr my characters life with the submit option. And as i wrote, i even use the active rape option on some chars.

[Teruke]

 I don't know about immersion, i never used that to reason how i play games. It's just that if I play a female character i get to see a bombshell on the center of the screen at all times, sure i can play male and have a nice follower, but a female PC is where full customization is in effect, there's mods to shape your character in so many ways, a follower has a set appearance and you can have mods to enhance that but that's all you can do to followers as far as looks go, i'd rather deal with a playthrough that has a close version to how i'd imagine a "perfect"(relative to each person) woman, and for that it has to be the PC.

 

And if i play a female and want to deal with straight intercourse, then she'd have to take it no matter the circumstance, that's why i use the female in victim role option; i'd prefer to have more on that, so far there's M/M(works so far), M/F(usually it's straight intercourse or males abusing females or females abusing males with strap-ons *basically females in male role*, there's no female dominant intercourse, and i mean the mistress type, a complete whore but ruthless at that) and F/F(usually females with stap-ons doing other females).

 

Having a female PC makes me feel like a porn director, i tell her to go here, go there, get it on with this, get it on with that. So yeah, that's pretty much it.