N***s shenanigans

[Yinkle]

Not sure where I should post this so I figured here is maybe appropriate until someone says otherwise or deletes it. I installed a very well known mod (remaining nameless) by a patreon whore that adds dialogue to a certain well known vampire character in the Dawnguard DLC. After this mod was installed I noticed errors and warnings totalling well over 200 in my papyrus log that weren't there before.

 

I thought it might be a good idea to let the mod author know so I decided to report the issue on the mod page. Suffice to say the fallout was hilarious - "you don't know what you are talking about" etc etc from random folk and zero response from the mod author.

 

I removed the offending mod from my load order

[27X]

At least he credited bethesda, unlike the top patreon earner, whom still has one mod out of the 60 on his patreon that he actually wrote and doesn't belong to someone else.

[Gukahn]

And you're telling us that without mentioning the Mods Name why?  Might be nice if someone knowing said Mod might gave input to the Errors and giving others a heads up to avoid it after they testify it ?

Not saying you are Lying but just randomly call someone names and trash talking about a Mod you don't even name is a  useless waste of space

[27X]

17 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

you don't even name is a  useless waste of space

 

 

ooor you could do a bit of research.

[Yinkle]

33 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

randomly call someone names and trash talking about a Mod you don't even name is a  useless waste of space

Are you the mod author? Seems like a strong reaction! ?

[yorpers]

36 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

Might be nice if someone knowing said Mod might gave input to the Errors and giving others a heads up to avoid it after they testify it

I wouldn't worry about it. If it's the mod I'm thinking of; it's just a script checking for soft dependencies, coming back void, and therefore the script stops there since the soft dependency is not present. If that's the case it's normal papyrus shit doing normal papyrus things.

[Mr. Otaku]

24 minutes ago, 27X said:

ooor you could do a bit of research.

 

ooor the mod name could just be mentioned.

[Gukahn]

30 minutes ago, 27X said:

ooor you could do a bit of research.

Why? Simple telling the name about something you blew off your steam would be the rational thing to do

 

 

10 minutes ago, Yinkle said:

Are you the mod author? Seems like a strong reaction! ?

 

Nope, never made a Mod. And it's not a strong reaction asking for specifics. Rather a strange one not telling people what mod you complain about.

 

11 minutes ago, yorpers said:

I wouldn't worry about it. If it's the mod I'm thinking of; it's just a script checking for soft dependencies, coming back void, and therefore the script stops there since the soft dependency is not present. If that's the case it's normal papyrus shit doing normal papyrus things.

Giving the Thing a Name Would still be the normal thing to do. ?

 

[yorpers]

Just now, Gukahn said:

Giving the Thing a Name Would still be the normal thing to do. ?

Well yeah, but that would actually let people help them with something. Can't have that going on when there is drama to be had.?

[Yinkle]

2 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

Rather a strange one not telling people what mod you complain about.

To be honest the topic is less about the mod in question than the general atmosphere on the Nexus website.

[27X]

27 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

 

ooor the mod name could just be mentioned.

 

Nah. LL has a rather strict policy of name and shame, and there already purple names in the browsing tab. You have to be incompetent/thief/greedy on the level of Baka or IceCreamAss to actually get an unopposed critique.

Edited August 23, 2022 by 27X

[Gukahn]

14 minutes ago, Yinkle said:

To be honest the topic is less about the mod in question than the general atmosphere on the Nexus website.

I can understand your Frustration about things. While reading some bug reports or shouts for help in their comments who never got even a little bit of attention or things like "learn to mod" there isn't much support there. Reason why most people come here and ask about nexus mods. But since you wrote about a specific mod first, that's where my a bit irritated comment came from ^^ If you need to blew off steam, more power to you everybody needs to do that and people know i can be a stupid fuck sometimes when commenting. So I'm not a saint either.

 

[Mr. Otaku]

18 minutes ago, 27X said:

Nah. LL has a rather strict policy of name and shame, and there already purple names in the browsing tab. You have to be incompetent/thief/greedy on the level of Baka or IceCreamAss to actually get an unopposed critique.

 

That still doesn't change the fact that complaining about a mod from a different site without naming it is ultimately useless gossip fuel. And if it's just about pointing out how the Nexus atmosphere is wack then it's been done to death already, there are no new grounds to break here. It's like starting an issue over how wet water is.

Edited August 23, 2022 by Mr. Otaku
Ninja Edit

[davisev5225]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

 

It's like starting an issue over how wet water is.

 

Well apparently water isn't wet enough for automotive use... 

 

[Mr. Otaku]

26 minutes ago, davisev5225 said:

 

Well apparently water isn't wet enough for automotive use... 

 

 

Of course not, if you want bigger numbers you need wetter waters.

 

[davisev5225]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

 

Of course not, if you want bigger numbers you need wetter waters.

 

 

... except I showed you a genuine product that you can buy at your local auto parts store.

https://www.redlineoil.com/waterwetter

Edited August 23, 2022 by davisev5225

[Mr. Otaku]

10 hours ago, davisev5225 said:

 

... except I showed you a genuine product that you can buy at your local auto parts store.

https://www.redlineoil.com/waterwetter

 

Well damn lol. Next you're gonna tell me they sell oilier oil too XD

 

(To be clear you can actually buy that blinker fluid, it's just a prank product)

[travelmedic]

14 hours ago, 27X said:

 

 

ooor you could do a bit of research.

 

The problem with that, is that maybe someone's research is flawed, and then they come to the mistaken belief that Mod A and it's author is a bucket of sh*t, when in reality everyone else was really talking about Mod B and the problems Mod B has.

 

Ultimately problems are going to be unfairly ascribed to a mod/mod author who actually goes out of their way to help people and and provide a quality add-on.

[27X]

10 minutes ago, travelmedic said:

 

The problem with that, is that maybe someone's research is flawed, and then they come to the mistaken belief that Mod A and it's author is a bucket of sh*t, when in reality everyone else was really talking about Mod B and the problems Mod B has.

 

Ultimately problems are going to be unfairly ascribed to a mod/mod author who actually goes out of their way to help people and and provide a quality add-on.

 

The mods that change said given attributes are available from exactly two authors, a very short list. One of them throws about 13 errors per con check, one of them throws about 250 and actually causes dialog firing to hang even on a system otherwise capable of running @8K with full per-character SMP, each with unique per-body entries for each potential follower/snusnu target running at 60-80fps because it's looking for strings or entries from another mod the author was also running when said mod was created, which is exactly the kind of "I'm terribly sorry i was masturbating thinking about how many dl I was going to get when I should have been playtesting under various builds and save conditions" thing you do not do as a modder, even on your first time.

 

Literal accidental dependency.

 

In an environment where MO/2 exists this is what's known as "you're not terribly good at this, are you", and the foremost problem other than said dependency is the nexus will swoop in without remotely actually reading a fucking thing and being smearing politics and subjective faux 'courtesy' all over said issue and thus simply compounding the issue from both author and potential recipient.

 

By all means especially under the nexus it is entirely possible to mistake cause and effect and to cram things together in the worst way possible because of that, but the entire point is the nexus' behavior nannies compound both potential sides of said issue without the slightest vetting or testing, so the scenario you posit as happening is actually MORE likely to occur by mod management design.

 

In this particular case because the waifu in question is the absolute pinnacle of waifus any content made for a bethesda game any content involving said npc is to be defended to the absolute death and any rise in the terrain is to be held no matter how much of a retard it makes you look like, when there are literally similar mods for similar things that can opened and viewed to avoid this exact and completely preventable occurrence and said techniques are open and free to be taken in or copied.

 

Also speaking of the above, one of the two main body mods recently got a totally not borrowed and copied update by someone mentioned in this very thread and literally lacked a means to fucking unzip the downloaded file thereof without altering the file and any user that pointed this out in their thread had said post deleted by nexus staff for "unconstructive criticism".

[davisev5225]

8 hours ago, Mr. Otaku said:

 

Well damn lol. Next you're gonna tell me they sell oilier oil too XD

 

(To be clear you can actually buy that blinker fluid, it's just a prank product)

 

Well I'll be damned, I thought it was just a photoshop.  ?