Being a Cow (Alternate Version)

[Ricordi]

4 hours ago, safado said:

 

The 2.1.3 video do not show overlay resets, it shows Normal maps resets. The female skin's MSN files are the object\Mesh Space Normals that define fake skin shader details like under boob shadow or muscle definition details. 

 

Guessing: 

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  You are likely using Acro's "Mu Dynamic NormalMap", maybe the issue is with that reacting to a mesh\morph or setSkin update, because it uses vector data to update normals at runtime.

 Are you using SLIF? It is set up for step update or instant(default)?, I guess step will make the normals update each step of morph changes.  Troubleshoot by uninstalling the Acro mod, if you use it.

 

 

Nope. I already mentioned this in my previous comment. Acro's mod has nothing to do with it. I'm sure of this because I've played with and without it—the result is the same. Take a look at the facial expressions from 1:37 to 1:43—it's clear the problem goes beyond a simple overlay reset. Something weird happened in version 2.1.3, and now the bac is affecting things it’s not supposed to in its update tick. Maybe it’s related to that:

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• added a debug option to MCM to reset BAC's stuck reequip quests, this option will automatically trigger once on game load

, or maybe it’s something else—I don’t know. And, as you can see, nothing like this happens at all in the video with version 2.1.2.

 

[botticelli]

12 hours ago, Ricordi said:

The first video demonstrates BAC 2.1.3, and the second demonstrates BAC 2.1.2. The reset of overlays and expressions is clearly visible when using MDNM (the mod itself isn’t the cause, but merely a symptom). I’d also like you to pay attention to the facial behavior.

Funny. BAC starts applying tats with stage 8 (fur) – maybe a little earlier with UntamedMilk, Veins1 or other Mutations, – but not at stage 1. What it does at that stage, though, is to reserve the overlay slots needed by assigning a non-existing texture path to them (no normal maps, etc., just the texture). That texture has the path data\textures\bac\blank.dds and is not included in the package thus essentially creating a null texture which normally isn't visible. It also was not included in 2.1.2 which makes me wonder as to why it works with that version.

Can you please copy an existing blank texture (e. g. Data\textures\actors\character\SlaveTats\blank.dds) to data\textures\bac\blank.dds and check whether that works?

4 hours ago, Ricordi said:

added a debug option to MCM to reset BAC's stuck reequip quests, this option will automatically trigger once on game load

That doesn't affect anything. Before that change, in a save with stuck quests, you'd simply get the next working quest in row. If there was none left, you'd not see any changes happening.

Edited July 31 by botticelli

[Ricordi]

5 hours ago, botticelli said:

Can you please copy an existing blank texture (e. g. Data\textures\actors\character\SlaveTats\blank.dds) to data\textures\bac\blank.dds and check whether that works?

I did what you asked. The result is the same (expressions and overlays reset every 6 seconds).

[botticelli]

2 hours ago, Ricordi said:

I did what you asked. The result is the same (expressions and overlays reset every 6 seconds).

Well, I put a console log event into BAC's texture commit function (the only place in all of BAC where NiOverride.ApplyNodeOverrides() is called) to check for myself. I do get occasional texture flickers, only not as often as you do. The console message never appeared, though. I tried it with and without Overlay fixes enabled. Without, the flickers seem to occur a little more often but they definitely don't originate from BAC.

Incidentally I searched my script sources for any mod using NiOverride.ApplyNodeOverrides() and apart from BAC found these:

• cc_bimbotatapplicator.psc [BoS]
• racemenu.psc
• SlaveTats.psc (should only do it when called from somewhere)
• SOS_Addon_PH_QuestScript.psc [SOS's pubic hair addon]
• ypsUtility.psc [YPS]
• _wai_Function.psc [Who Am I mod, uses that only when one of its potions is equipped]

That call commits all overlays (not just those the mod in question just changed) and may very likely cause that flickering. Also, that list may not be complete as there might be more scripts hidden in BSAs that I didn't search.

Edited July 31 by botticelli

[Ricordi]

14 hours ago, botticelli said:

That call commits all overlays (not just those the mod in question just changed) and may very likely cause that flickering. Also, that list may not be complete as there might be more scripts hidden in BSAs that I didn't search.

 

I think I found the bug. Claude pointed out that in version 2.1.3, a line was added to `bac_alias` right before the timer is re-registered:

bac_storage.UpdateModelWeight(acActor)

which wasn't there in 2.1.2.
I removed it from the disassembled .pas file, recompiled it, and voilà—the problem is gone.
Thanks for your attention. I’m off to enjoy the gameplay. 😜

bac_alias.pex

Edited August 1 by Ricordi

[botticelli]

19 hours ago, Ricordi said:

 

I think I found the bug. Claude pointed out that in version 2.1.3, a line was added to `bac_alias` right before the timer is re-registered:

bac_storage.UpdateModelWeight(acActor)

which wasn't there in 2.1.2.
I removed it from the disassembled .pas file, recompiled it, and voilà—the problem is gone.
Thanks for your attention. I’m off to enjoy the gameplay. 😜

bac_alias.pex 32.13 kB · 1 download

Allright, I'll remove that, too. Can't remember why I put it in there anyway. As to why UpdateModelWeight() (essentially NiOverride.UpdateModelWeight() plus Actor.QueueNiNodeUpdate() if not on a mount) affects textures is beyond me. Those functions are meant to apply body morphs.

Also weird: I didn't put that into bac_cow_alias.psc which is the npc cow alias, so it looks to me like some leftover from an experiment.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Just curious: why decompile it? The sources are included as well...

Edited August 2 by botticelli

[Ricordi]

1 hour ago, botticelli said:

Just curious: why decompile it? The sources are included as well...

I can't compile your source code because the compiler keeps complaining about missing dependencies that I don't know where to get, and version differences for those dependencies—as is the case with MME scripts, etc. So that's not an option for me.

[botticelli]

Btw. the Overlay fixes mod implements the reverse (i. e. LE) overlay order as a default, meaning, you'd need to edit the ini file Data\SKSE\Plugins\OverlayFix.ini and make sure
 

[overlayfix]
reverse=false

is in there for BAC's overlays to appear in the correct order in SE/AE/VR.

[Skifts]

@Ricordi - I apologize for asking for this but is there any chance you could re-up your original mod list file you had on gofile a while back (Was around 140gb-ish)? I used it in the past and it worked great but lost files recently and want to start fresh. 

[bord521ag]

On 9/23/2025 at 5:41 AM, Ricordi said:

Releasing a completed patch for the UBE body  . For the 'ultimate' experience.

 

 

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What’s been done:

• Properly patched all meshes in Armor/ArmorAddon: horns, ears, hooves, udders, tails, nose rings, etc. (based on a very rough patch originally shared in the UBE Discord channel);

• Tweaked all Bodyslide meshes and recreated semihooves with UBE ones (3BA morphs replaced with UBE ones).

• Tweaked tails (they now use a different texture path for compatibility). Based on tails made by @Unknown22923 ;

• Adapted head meshes: used @Dudemers' Bodyslide as reference (details below);

• Textures baked using the tool provided by @AhuwgaZ: now textures display correctly across the whole body with smooth (as much as I could achieve) transitions between meshes. Body textures were also AI upscaled to 4K;

• Optional file with morphs adapted for the UBE body.

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Important notes before using the patch (to avoid issues)

 

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1. For head stages to work, I added FormLists into the original UBE body ESP. To activate them in-game, go to BAC MCM → Custom Race, and in the Mod Name List field select ube_allrace.esp. The corresponding Custom Race Form IDs and Custom Race Head Part FormList IDs are provided in the table below.

 

Race	Race Form ID	HeadPart Form ID
UBE_Breton	04005734	04002FA5
UBE_DarkElf	0405A198	0400A6AE
UBE_HighElf	0405A1A2	0400A6AF
UBE_Imperial	0405A179	0400A6B0
UBE_Nord	0405A184	0400A6B1
UBE_Orc	0405A1B0	0400A6B2
UBE_Redguard	0405A18E	0400A6B3
UBE_WoodElf	0405A1AC	0400A6B4

 

 

     2. The UBE body uses slot 53, which caused udders to display incorrectly. I reassigned them to slot 52. To make this “fix” work in-game, go to

         BAC MCM → Dynamic Armor Slots and change the udders entry from slot 53 to slot 52.

 

 

 

nice to meet you.
I recently started playing Skyrim again.
This time, I’m playing using the UBE environment with BAC installed, and I used your posts as a reference.
Everything is running almost perfectly, but I’ve run into an issue with the feet.
It works fine up to the "semihooves" stage, but a gap appears when it finally switches to "hooves." How can I get it to display cleanly like in your images?

 

I’ve attached an image.
This is my first time posting, so the image size might not be quite right.
I apologize if it is difficult to see.

[Ricordi]

On 8/17/2026 at 5:20 PM, bord521ag said:

 

nice to meet you.
I recently started playing Skyrim again.
This time, I’m playing using the UBE environment with BAC installed, and I used your posts as a reference.
Everything is running almost perfectly, but I’ve run into an issue with the feet.
It works fine up to the "semihooves" stage, but a gap appears when it finally switches to "hooves." How can I get it to display cleanly like in your images?

 

I’ve attached an image.
This is my first time posting, so the image size might not be quite right.
I apologize if it is difficult to see.

Hi. Currently I’m taking a break from Skyrim, so I won’t be able to fix it if this mesh lacks the corresponding sliders.
First of all, try to rerun bodyslide.

If no help, open Outfit Studio, load bac_hooves_spots —> Add Project and choose UBE body —> set UBE body as reference —> delete all sliders that don’t affect legs —> Conform all —> delete UBE body from project —> save file as a new project and build it in Bodyslide.

[Augwow]

Tried using this mod along with the GTS mod size matters and found a possible minor bug with character scaling. Whenever the regular bac updates happen (about every 6 seconds or 60 with the plugin posted here before) it seems like my body scale blips to 1 for a nanosecond and back to normal. It usually started when loading a save with the curse active, even without any mutations applied yet. Seems like everything else still works fine though so not sure if its worth looking in to but figured I should mention it.

[botticelli]

15 hours ago, Augwow said:

Tried using this mod along with the GTS mod size matters and found a possible minor bug with character scaling. Whenever the regular bac updates happen (about every 6 seconds or 60 with the plugin posted here before) it seems like my body scale blips to 1 for a nanosecond and back to normal. It usually started when loading a save with the curse active, even without any mutations applied yet. Seems like everything else still works fine though so not sure if its worth looking in to but figured I should mention it.

Did you try replacing the bac_alias script from this post? (Upon installation it resides within the bsa, just drop that extra script into data\scripts and remember that you did so when installing a new version of BAC, because then you need to delete it again).

[Augwow]

8 hours ago, botticelli said:

Did you try replacing the bac_alias script from this post? (Upon installation it resides within the bsa, just drop that extra script into data\scripts and remember that you did so when installing a new version of BAC, because then you need to delete it again).

wow I guess the answer was right in front of me, that seemed to work thanks. (and to ricordi for making it)

 

Also quick sidenote, I saw the size matters mod has possibly better crawling animations than the beastess one. The hands stay on the ground, isn't that crazy?

[Naruzimo]

Hello all. I've just recently gotten back into playing. everything seemed to run fine. I'm using a wabbajack modlist  (NEFARAM.) I added BAC, and Im using Ricordi's SMP udder variants using the batch processing in bodyslide. the picture I've attached shows the small udder. but it is stretched downward and doesn't move. Anyone else encountered this before? I spoke with Ricordi and will be assessing the weight values in outfit studio. Once I learn more about outfit studio and how to use it. 

[bord521ag]

On 2026/8/20 at 午後2時2分, Ricordi said:

こんにちは。現在スカイリムをプレイしていないため、このメッシュに対応するスライダーがない場合、修正することができません。
まずは、bodyslideを再度実行してみてください。

解決しない場合は、Outfit Studio を開き、bac_hooves_spots をロードします。→ プロジェクトを追加し、UBE ボディを選択します。→ UBE ボディを基準として設定します。→ 脚に影響しないすべてのスライダーを削除します。→ すべてを調整します。→ プロジェクトから UBE ボディを削除します。→ ファイルを新しいプロジェクトとして保存し、Bodyslide でビルドします。

Thank you for the reply.

I followed your advice and tried using BodySlide and Outfit Studio, but that didn't fix the issue.

However, it worked after I adjusted the "feet" and "leg" files within the JSON file.

[Dudemer]

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[dragongodmod117]

16 hours ago, Dudemer said:

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Ok, THAT looks great! Especially if everything is SMP'ified, the udder could bounce on the legs properly (I know you said its not your cup of tea but still.) Awesome!

[Alisss]

On 8/27/2026 at 5:38 AM, Dudemer said:

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Looks great, especially the udder. This would need multiple versions of tats for the udder, i think, due to the mesh being stretched as much as it gets, possibly even more if >100% scaling works.

Additionally, is there, perchance, a future content update somewhere on the horizon @botticelli? I've been checking this mod page every couple days so excited to possibly have an update.

[botticelli]

7 hours ago, Alisss said:

Additionally, is there, perchance, a future content update somewhere on the horizon @botticelli? I've been checking this mod page every couple days so excited to possibly have an update.

Despite having made the settings for Steam *not* to upgrade me automatically, my game version has been updated to 1.7.99 and I'm currently locked out since no SKSE for that version exists yet. As a consequence I cannot name a date. I would have liked to publish it this week.

[Explodington]

3 hours ago, botticelli said:

Despite having made the settings for Steam *not* to upgrade me automatically, my game version has been updated to 1.7.99 and I'm currently locked out since no SKSE for that version exists yet. As a consequence I cannot name a date. I would have liked to publish it this week.

 

Same thing happened to me. I was able to roll back to 1.6.1170 pretty easily. Here's the instructions I used if you're interested. It took steam a long, long time to download those depots, though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/1vtnsga/skyrim_newest_17990_downgrade_back_to_161170/

 

[WipeLawn]

2 hours ago, Explodington said:

 

Same thing happened to me. I was able to roll back to 1.6.1170 pretty easily. Here's the instructions I used if you're interested. It took steam a long, long time to download those depots, though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/1vtnsga/skyrim_newest_17990_downgrade_back_to_161170/

 

I did that to download some missing content for my game without nuking all my Skyrim setup, can confirm it works like a charm.

[Alisss]

13 hours ago, botticelli said:

Despite having made the settings for Steam *not* to upgrade me automatically, my game version has been updated to 1.7.99 and I'm currently locked out since no SKSE for that version exists yet. As a consequence I cannot name a date. I would have liked to publish it this week.

Ah, the unbridled joys of Vortex. Luckily, I followed the guide for Special/Anniversary edition when I upgraded so I'm stuck unupgraded.

[botticelli]

8 hours ago, Alisss said:

Ah, the unbridled joys of Vortex. Luckily, I followed the guide for Special/Anniversary edition when I upgraded so I'm stuck unupgraded.

Has nothing to do with Vortex. The problem is the Steam setting "Wait until I launch the game". I launch the game via SKSE loader, all is well. I launch the CK, this triggers and updates the whole game 😡. I used the downgrade from above and the same happened all over when launching the CK.

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[EstJava]

58 minutes ago, botticelli said:

I launch the CK, this triggers and updates the whole game 😡

launch CK from shortcut created by Steam? dont touch this shortcut it will trigger update

Edited August 30 by EstJava