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13 minutes ago, sirsleepy said:

I had an idea for Size Queen a few days ago and want to see what anything thinks. The idea came after reading this post:

 

So what about if

  • 0-5 = Fucking Soreness, more without lube, less with lube, more with Sensually Tight = normal, no traits/name
  • 5-10 = Fucking Soreness, barely any without lube, none with lube, more with Sensually Tight = Size Queen title at 5
  • 10+ = Instead of soreness, results in bonus pleasure/happy = Size Goddess (name TBD) at 10?

 

 

Yes, this option is more interesting, but after 10+, the Queen of Size can give out some of the moodlets to the partner, like "This is a huge hole"

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Other "cons" I've heard of (negative sides) are bigger dicks can become bent or "folded" during "energetic" or aggressive sex which is apparently a pretty painful experience, also I'm told you tend to "wear out partner's parts faster" though that would probably mean making a whole new system to keep track of something like that, then there is of course the "awkward boner" (which I could see being more of an issue with teens) where when you get a boner it can be harder to hide in public due to the size (I could see something like that having a pro and a con at the same time, maybe attracting a new interest on the one hand while also feeling embarrassed at the same time).

 

As far as positives I didn't really see covered, compliments before or after sex (which would boost confidence) maybe?..

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16 hours ago, Sutsiua said:

Like a gaping buff?

 

I like this idea. For size queens this should be a mandatory buff after lvl 10+ haha  and i dont know if you can do it  but this is more proper for anal queens so after lvl 10+ of anal gape buff can show up for the girl during or after sex action :)

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1 hour ago, asdurgico said:

I'm wondering if there is a way to automatically apply the bbc trait to all male npc sims. I have a world with only black people so that would make sense i guess ?.

 

Not in v1.

 

In v2 (currently working on now. planning to release in Feb), the traits will be included in WW Wicked Attributes. So you will be able to 

  1. Click on Sim
  2. Click "Wicked..."
  3. Click Personalization
  4. Click Wicked Attributes
  5. Click Give ALL Sims Wicked Attributes
  6. Unselect "None" and Select "Males"
  7. WW selects the first dozen or more males, so you need to select the rest by hand
  8. Click Ok
  9. Select "Big Black Cock" from the list of traits
  10. Done

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, sirsleepy said:

 

Not in v1.

 

In v2 (currently working on now. planning to release in Feb), the traits will be included in WW Wicked Attributes. So you will be able to 

  1. Click on Sim
  2. Click "Wicked..."
  3. Click Personalization
  4. Click Wicked Attributes
  5. Click Give ALL Sims Wicked Attributes
  6. Unselect "None" and Select "Males"
  7. WW selects the first dozen or more males, so you need to select the rest by hand
  8. Click Ok
  9. Select "Big Black Cock" from the list of traits
  10. Done

 

 

 

 

Does this mean we won't have to use the cheat menu in game and type in a command with big and small percentages to distribute the perks randomly? Because that's not a very user friendly method IMO. I know that WW already has a way to distribute body parts randomly, so why not perks?

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You will be able to use the Wicked Whims randomize Wicked Attributes feature. I've tried that before and it never worked well for me, but if that works for you then great :) Also, I have no idea how the %s work with Wicked Whims (because then WW controls the %s), but yes that will be a feature since it'll be included in WW Attributes. (I need to test to confirm, but in theory the traits are registered with WW and show up in WW, so the WW random thing should work.) I also have the traits set up with "conflicting traits", so there's no way to add 2 "conflicting dick" traits. If WW tries to add both Big and Small, then the second trait will not get added. I think that's where I had issues with WW randomizer before (it would add traits that had thematic conflicts, or something like that).

 

To be honest, I feel like writing my own WW randomization code, because myself (and I've seen other posts) who didn't really like the WW randomizer. I love WW attributes, but I feel it needs a bit more logic (like some traits work better together, some are thematically opposite, some are more feminine, and others are more masculine, etc.) and I think the WW randomizer is totally random random. I feel it should be random with some logic/checks.

 

 

I will be building a UI. I've just been working on building the features first. I hope to have a UI in v2. I'm finishing up my last big new feature (hopefully today), then I'm going to move onto UI next week and then testing the week after that, and then release around mid-late Feb.

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17 hours ago, asdurgico said:

I'm wondering if there is a way to automatically apply the bbc trait to all male npc sims. I have a world with only black people so that would make sense i guess ?.

 

hey, I was thinking about this. It would only take a small bit of code, so I could add in a console cheat for this. Since this is one of those rare cases, I won't add it to the UI menu system, but I can add it to the console commands.

 

Okay. In my dev version (soon to be v2)

 

I cloned the "bdp.randomize_npc_dicks" command (which randomizes between BD and SD) to create "bdp.randomize_npc_dicks_bbc" command which will randomize between BBC and SD. So you can use "bdp.randomize_npc_dicks_bbc 0 0.999999" to give NPCs a 0% chance of SD and a 99.9999 chance of BBC. it's not 100% chance, but if you put enough 9s there, it should be virtually everybody. The process and %s work the same as the base command (randomize_npc_dicks), so it will reset any traits before randomizing and only work on non-played/NPC sims. It will also automatically change their penis meshes (if pre-configured).

 

This will be one of the "hidden commands", since it's one of those rare cases. I'll make sure it's documented here in the support thread.

 

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1 hour ago, sirsleepy said:

You will be able to use the Wicked Whims randomize Wicked Attributes feature. I've tried that before and it never worked well for me, but if that works for you then great :) Also, I have no idea how the %s work with Wicked Whims (because then WW controls the %s), but yes that will be a feature since it'll be included in WW Attributes. (I need to test to confirm, but in theory the traits are registered with WW and show up in WW, so the WW random thing should work.) I also have the traits set up with "conflicting traits", so there's no way to add 2 "conflicting dick" traits. If WW tries to add both Big and Small, then the second trait will not get added. I think that's where I had issues with WW randomizer before (it would add traits that had thematic conflicts, or something like that).

 

To be honest, I feel like writing my own WW randomization code, because myself (and I've seen other posts) who didn't really like the WW randomizer. I love WW attributes, but I feel it needs a bit more logic (like some traits work better together, some are thematically opposite, some are more feminine, and others are more masculine, etc.) and I think the WW randomizer is totally random random. I feel it should be random with some logic/checks.

 

 

I will be building a UI. I've just been working on building the features first. I hope to have a UI in v2. I'm finishing up my last big new feature (hopefully today), then I'm going to move onto UI next week and then testing the week after that, and then release around mid-late Feb.

How to wait until mid-February? :bawling:

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39 minutes ago, urayxor said:

How to wait until mid-February? :bawling:

Depends if I finish this today and how difficult the UI part is and how many things issues I find during testing. It could be as early as next weekend, if I finish this today and the UI only takes a day or two. Once I get into testing phase, then I'll let everyone know.

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Okay. I think I finally got WW attractiveness working. I feel I need a few days to thoroughly test this since I feel like there's got to be some issues I missed.

 

Right now, I have it working in 2 out of 3 locations.

  1. Inside of CAS, in the same section as the WW preferences, there's two new prefs of "Dick Size - Big" and "Dick Size - Small" with "Like" and "Dislikes" buttons just like the other WW prefs (in same group as big/small breasts/butts)
  2. You can manually add/remove the Likes/Dislikes traits via cheats (just like everything else)
  3. Not working yet -- I don't have it added to when you click on a sim and click "Attractiveness" and use the WW dialogs to pick the prefs there. 

 

Initial Testing

Not my first tests, but the first full test cycle that worked and where I'm stopping at for today

 

With my initial test, using Bella and Mortimer. A "1" is extremely attractive and they already had a 1.24 (WW attractiveness) score by default, so that's our baseline here. The score is Bella's attraction towards Mortimer.

 

Bella no preference (no likes or dislikes big/small dicks)

  • Mort with no traits = 1.24
  • Mort with BD = 1.24 (no change)

 

Bella Likes Big Dicks

  • Mort with no traits = 1.09 (-13%)
  • Mort with BD = 1.37 (+10%)


Bella Dislikes Big Dicks

  • Mort with no traits = 1.40 (+12%)
  • Mort with BD = 1.02 (-18%)
     

I need to clean up this code a bit, but I think I finally got it working. I just need to make sure there's no bugs anywhere with the various parts.

 

I also need to figure out how to do those pop-ups that say "You just did X. Would you say you LIKE X?" (or whatever those pop-ups say). And then have that pop-up after the first BD and SD sex encounters.

 

* Note 1 - this also works for SD. I just didn't test the numbers, because I thought they should be the same. But I'll test SD specifically soon just to confirm.

* Note 2 - And the math is all WW. All I can do is add the traits into the mix. I did give it a higher weight than others, but I have no idea if or how that is used or if I added the number and it doesn't do anything at all. I can't see inside the magic of WW attraction.

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2 Things that I Don't know they had been mentioned in the already 6 pages

 

1st) Big dicks can also have sometimes problems with getting a normal standing/hard errection

it happens that the dick is to heavy so that it doesn't stand upright when errected it still hangs more or less down

so if normal not errected would be 0° 

and errected would be 150°  

the guy with the big dick only gets something aournd 90°

 

2nd)

Not sure but I find it a bit strange if Mother, adult Sister get a flirty buff when around their son/brother who has big dick

or if the doughter gets flirty when her father with big dick is around...  would be ok if they got the ww incest trait but for normal people thats

a bit wired

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Chlodwig said:

 

 

2nd)

Not sure but I find it a bit strange if Mother, adult Sister get a flirty buff when around their son/brother who has big dick

or if the doughter gets flirty when her father with big dick is around...  would be ok if they got the ww incest trait but for normal people thats

a bit wired

 

 

 

That's fixed in next version.

 

For the medical stuff, yeah. I've been thinking of that stuff as well. There's ED issues (which can be calculated based on fitness %, age, etc.), penile fractures, etc. that eventually I want to add. Also, condom breaking (for regular sizes) and add in custom object for larger condom size (which won't break).

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Just thought of something... you might of already thought of it before... Nisa has a few features that this mod goes well with...but some i see there might be a game play conflict. Mainly the succubus and the dolls... any plans on making the big dick not affecting them with soreness since they are two features designed to have alot of sex? or maybe have it so the male ends up with a soreness due to them being more demanding of them? just shooting ya idea's

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30 minutes ago, Monson said:

Just thought of something... you might of already thought of it before... Nisa has a few features that this mod goes well with...but some i see there might be a game play conflict. Mainly the succubus and the dolls... any plans on making the big dick not affecting them with soreness since they are two features designed to have alot of sex? or maybe have it so the male ends up with a soreness due to them being more demanding of them? just shooting ya idea's

 

Good ideas. Thanks

 

 

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17 hours ago, Monson said:

Just thought of something... you might of already thought of it before... Nisa has a few features that this mod goes well with...but some i see there might be a game play conflict. Mainly the succubus and the dolls... any plans on making the big dick not affecting them with soreness since they are two features designed to have alot of sex? or maybe have it so the male ends up with a soreness due to them being more demanding of them? just shooting ya idea's

 

Added exclusions for "Fucking Sore" for WickedWhims Porcelain Dolls and Nisa's Succubus (while unrestrained only).

 

I think the exclusions is a good idea, and it fits in where I was going with Size Queen. After Size Queen becomes Size Goddess which won't get any pain, but instead SG will get pleasure at the same rate as others get pain (future feature, not yet available). I haven't started on SG yet (I still have a few SQ things to finish), but my idea is that it'll require 2x SQ sex encounters and multiple BD/BBC partners (not at same time, but... maybe that's not a bad idea either). If SQ is 5 encounters, then SG could be 10 encounters, 3 BD/BBC partners, and 1 three-way with 2 BD/BBC partners.

 

 

I'd also like to create a SQ-like trait/path for lovers of SDs, but I'm unsure of it's name--I'm sure there's a name for that out there somewhere, so if anyone knows, just let me know (either post here or DM). It would be exactly like SQ, but with SD sex encounters, etc. Instead of "Fucking Sore", it would just get happy buffs or something else? Thanks

 

 

Also, I just thought of this last night. I think it would be funny of BD/BBC could "crack/fracture" porcelain dolls, which would have sharp edges around/inside a specific orifice which will injure/cut anyone entering that orifice, until it's been "repaired". I don't have ideas on how it could be repaired yet--maybe the Doll needs someone to use Handiness skill? Or if there's an arts & crafts type career? I just thought that might be funny.

 

 

For status update -- I'm started work on the UI yesterday and I'm still doing testing/confirmation of previous features as I work on UI (finding things, fixing things, optimizing code). If things go well, maybe I'll have the UI done by the weekend.

 

 

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3 hours ago, sirsleepy said:

I'd also like to create a SQ-like trait/path for lovers of SDs, but I'm unsure of it's name--I'm sure there's a name for that out there somewhere, so if anyone knows, just let me know (either post here or DM). It would be exactly like SQ, but with SD sex encounters, etc. Instead of "Fucking Sore", it would just get happy buffs or something else? Thanks

I think that this is basically the sensually tight trait. Sims with this trait should be happy with SD. Maybe "sensually tight" could vanish after several (painful) encounters with BD. For the SD the combination with high self esteem could block any sadness or frustration. 

If you figured out how to distinguish between vaginal and oral sex, would it be possible for SD to satisfy a SQ orally? If so, she should still have the need for BD from time to time.

Did you consider to have a "BBC only" trait? Or a "never inside" commitment between SD and SQ?

3 hours ago, sirsleepy said:

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, weener000 said:

I think that this is basically the sensually tight trait. Sims with this trait should be happy with SD. Maybe "sensually tight" could vanish after several (painful) encounters with BD. For the SD the combination with high self esteem could block any sadness or frustration. 

If you figured out how to distinguish between vaginal and oral sex, would it be possible for SD to satisfy a SQ orally? If so, she should still have the need for BD from time to time.

Did you consider to have a "BBC only" trait? Or a "never inside" commitment between SD and SQ?

 

 

I was thinking Sensually Tight is more of a physical trait (like BD, SD). Size Queen is a personal preference of BD/BBC. I was thinking there should be a personal preference for SDs, too. There's bound to be a group of people who prefer SD over average or BDs. I just don't know the name of that group.

 

I did figure out how to distinguish between different animation categories. So you're saying if a SD only does oral animations with a SD, then SD won't be unsatisfied? (If so, would that extend to hand and foot jobs as well?)

 

What is the "BBC only" trait? You mean someone that only prefers BBCs? You'll be able to do that with the attraction preferences (it won't be "only", but it'll be a preference). You can "Like BD" and then in WW Attractions "Like" and "Dislike" particular skin colors (pretty sure that's an option, at least there is data in the "attractiveness preferences" for each group, so there should be a way of picking those).  I have no idea how WW knows what skin colors different Sims are, since most of my Sims use skins rather than the basic color palette.

 

Would that "never inside" commitment be only for those in a relationship (engaged, married)? I can see it working like a "promise" (that's an option for teens called promise rings or something like that, I think) In that scenario would oral count as "inside"?

 

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2 hours ago, Monson said:

group that would probably like SD men.... gold diggers lol joking OfCourse...  

 

but something that strikes me as odd is.. why BBC and BD.?I mean if BD was named BWC I could see it but why the need for BBC if BD covers those sims too.

It makes sense in the mod this mod was based on, which would give a "blacked" trait and "size queen" trait separately, some people wanted that legacy to continue.

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3 hours ago, Monson said:

but something that strikes me as odd is.. why BBC and BD.?I mean if BD was named BWC I could see it but why the need for BBC if BD covers those sims too.

It's a common trope/stereotype in porn (and in general but that's a different story...).

 

Going to most porn sites they have categories and one of the more popular ones is BBC. BD might have their own as well? But the focus is on BBC or BD because that has been the norm for years. If you want any other dick from any other group they have them listed by ethnicity.

If porn sites or other people wanted to start saying BWC then they can, sure (I'm sure some have). But then where is the BSAD, BEAD. BMD or other ethnic group acronyms? It has to become a lot more common to be widely used by most.

(Are they? I honestly haven't heard about them. Everyone is obsessed with BBC or BBW according to most porn stats,)

 

Anyways...

 

I am not a fan of the BBC stereotype for a lot of reasons and prefer just simple BD, Average, Above Average, Small, Really Small (or whatever)

 But I do understand that as far as mods like this go, it's for people who like to use that language themselves with their partners/ about themselves or in general. Or they personally might not use that type of language but roleplay as a sim/sims that would because it's what they seen on porn/society in general.   

Or for people who are just like... "He/They have a BBC. Why wouldn't I make that clear? ?‍♀️"

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54 minutes ago, RozseTww said:

It's a common trope/stereotype in porn (and in general but that's a different story...).

 

Going to most porn sites they have categories and one of the more popular ones is BBC. BD might have their own as well? But the focus is on BBC or BD because that has been the norm for years. If you want any other dick from any other group they have them listed by ethnicity.

If porn sites or other people wanted to start saying BWC then they can, sure (I'm sure some have). But then where is the BSAD, BEAD. BMD or other ethnic group acronyms? It has to become a lot more common to be widely used by most.

(Are they? I honestly haven't heard about them. Everyone is obsessed with BBC or BBW according to most porn stats,)

 

Anyways...

 

I am not a fan of the BBC stereotype for a lot of reasons and prefer just simple BD, Average, Above Average, Small, Really Small (or whatever)

 But I do understand that as far as mods like this go, it's for people who like to use that language themselves with their partners/ about themselves or in general. Or they personally might not use that type of language but roleplay as a sim/sims that would because it's what they seen on porn/society in general.   

Or for people who are just like... "He/They have a BBC. Why wouldn't I make that clear? ?‍♀️"

and you missed the whole point of my post...... quit think racially please.... because a quick search does show BWC in search engines also there is swirl and many other ethnic searches.... my point is BBC and BD in the mod are exactly the same... there is no difference between the two.

 

 

on the side note

if you really want to be realistic then BBC would  not be a thing considering the Jonah falcon, a white male has the biggest penis in the world...just saying that stereotypes are for little kids and i'd like to see less work on mods for frivolous things... us players tend to be real demanding on modders... and i'd rather see them keep modding instead of saying "screw it, this is too much work"

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6 hours ago, Monson said:

and you missed the whole point of my post...... quit think racially please.... because a quick search does show BWC in search engines also there is swirl and many other ethnic searches.... my point is BBC and BD in the mod are exactly the same... there is no difference between the two.

 

Nah dude, you missed the point.

 

It's labeled BBC because there's a specific fetish about it. BD and BBC are functionally the same, so you can use BD for everyone guy if you want. BBC is for people who specifically want that kind of fetish.

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