Farengar Annoyance

[Grey Cloud]

After five years or so I've decided to do something about Farengar's light spell:

I've looked in XEdit but can't see the spell or what I need to do.  Not sure where to look if it is a CK thing.

Thankingtons for any pointers.

 

Hello there to all you AE and SE users. I've just fired up my LE after not touching it for five months or so and it launched without any problems.

[Dorabella]

Having already manipulated several spells with TES5Edit , you give me the ESP watching it?

[Grey Cloud]

27 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said:

Having already manipulated several spells with TES5Edit , you give me the ESP watching it?

It's a vanilla thing isn't it?

[worik]

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

It's a vanilla thing isn't it?

Most likely ... perhaps even coming with his class https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Farengar_Secret-Fire

You would need to add your own myLovelyFarengar.esp in that case. ?

 

If it's not going to be too late today evening, I'll have a look in the CK to tell you more

[karlpaws]

Do you want him to cast the spell, not cast the spell or are you looking to change the spell itself?

 

I think I got a patch mod that made him not cast it at all, which is what I wanted.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

I have never seen him do a light spell? 

 

Is he casting light spell inside dragonsreach?  Seriously have never seen him do that. 

[Grey Cloud]

Thanks people.

I want to get rid of the light spell.

I'm totally confused now as I was convinced this was a vanilla thing - I can't remember a time when he didn't do it. He's the only person in the game who does it and he has done it through umpteen male overhauls. 

I can't even think of a magic overhaul I use as magic isn't a big thing in my games.

 

Just for the record it is the light spell that hovers over your head. You can just see the bottom of it in the screenshot.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

What mod is changing his name?  What mods does xedit say is touching PencilDick? Definitely not a vanilla thing. 

[woodsman30]

11 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Farengar's light spell:

It is not a vanilla thing that is for certain checked on xbox a 100% cannot be modded game. Maybe he is mad you named him pencil dick ?

[Grey Cloud]

44 minutes ago, woodsman30 said:

Maybe he is mad you named him pencil dick

The other way round - I named him Pencil Dick because the light thing annoys me. ?

 

 

 

 

 

 Farengar in XEdit

 

 

 

 

The only packages he has are the usual lunch, dinner, sleep type - in other words, default/vanilla.

 

As far as I can see, the only magic mod I have is Summermyst and that does not appear to have anything about Farengar.

 

I should also add that the light is not constant - he casts the spell, the light comes on, the spell does its thing and when it's died he casts again.

[woodsman30]

25 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Farengar

Yours looks very different from mine

Spoiler

 

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

Its not Pan or Usleep. 

 

Sounds like you have a quest from a mod that is firing a script to make this happen. Just giving him the spell wouldnt make him use it. Finding the quest can be hard, find the script could be easier? Maybe consider placing some of your scripts to a temp location to see if you can go into game and not get lit up from PencilPrick. 

 

I have only used MO, other users would probably be better equipped to help on this one. I lean towards finding the script would be easier, but if script doesnt have name pointing to mod it is coming from then it might be useless to find script? 

 

Gotta go make some doughnuts, hopefully you get squared up, will check when I get home, might have an idea or 2 for you. 

 

 

You surely have ran script cleaner since having the problem, right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Grey Cloud]

14 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

You surely have ran script cleaner since having the problem, right?

No. I didn't know it was a problem. Not playing vanilla Dragonreach wasn't somewhere I went that often  - mostly to use the crafting tables if everywhere else was closed. It's only the past year or so now I have a zillion followers in there that I visit so often.

I wouldn't know how to find a script on Farengar in a save file anyway.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

10 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

No

Run script cleaner on save, might get lucky.

 

Maybe someone can chime in, I'm not at desktop, but if a script could be added to an ai package you could see if you have mods overwriting his vanilla packages in xedit easy enough.

 

Throw your LO up and maybe some users can make some suggestions.

 

 

[pinky6225]

Never had farengar do this either but does sound like the behaviour of the dark elf mage thats in the giant mushroom building over on the island added in by dragonborn

 

I'd be tempted to try using removespell (spellID) on him on the console and seeing if you can remove it that way

 

Was bugging me, guys called Neloth and has

 

 

my (dirty SE) Farenger only has

 

[thesteve812]

I've seen it too, so it isn't Grey Cloud having another episode. I remember doing console command dispelallspells on him after he casts it, but maybe I was having an episode. ?

[Grey Cloud]

4 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

Was bugging me, guys called Neloth and has

My Neloth and Farengar have the same as yours. Way back when I first looked into this I was expecting Farengar to have the 'CastCandleLight' or similar.

 

4 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

removespell (spellID)

 

3 hours ago, thesteve812 said:

console command dispelallspells

I'll have a go with the console commands later but will that get rid of it forever or will it come back in a new game?

[Grey Cloud]

29 minutes ago, thesteve812 said:

Grey Cloud having another episode

Episode? I'll have you know that I have complete box-sets.

[pinky6225]

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

My Neloth and Farengar have the same as yours. Way back when I first looked into this I was expecting Farengar to have the 'CastCandleLight' or similar.

 

 

I'll have a go with the console commands late but will that get rid of it forever or will it come back in a new game?

 

Will come back on the new game, least thats what happened when i used the console to remove serana's more irritating spells

[karlpaws]

9 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Thanks people.

I want to get rid of the light spell.

I'm totally confused now as I was convinced this was a vanilla thing - I can't remember a time when he didn't do it. He's the only person in the game who does it and he has done it through umpteen male overhauls. 

I can't even think of a magic overhaul I use as magic isn't a big thing in my games.

 

Just for the record it is the light spell that hovers over your head. You can just see the bottom of it in the screenshot.

 

I am not completely sure it is vanilla either, as I could have tried a mod that made him do it, instead of one that made him not do it.   I do not think it was a magic related mod though, but something to spice up various NPCs.  What I remember, which is probably wrong, was that it affected him and several other NPCs.

[thesteve812]

On 12/1/2021 at 3:58 PM, Grey Cloud said:

Farengar's light spell:

 

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Do you have Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul installed? 

[thesteve812]

The console command "dispelallspells" will remove the candlelight effect, but he just casts it again.

[Grey Cloud]

35 minutes ago, thesteve812 said:

Do you have Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul installed?

Now you mention it, I do indeedy.

 

Edit 5 minutes later.

Well the little tinker.

 

Thank you very much. ?

[karlpaws]

18 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Now you mention it, I do indeedy.

 

Edit 5 minutes later.

Well the little tinker.

 

 

 

Thank you very much. ?

 

I used that one too, and just in case you try to remove it and wonder why things don't change... they way they apply the new custom AI packages persists through saves. You do need to start a whole new game.

[Grey Cloud]

2 hours ago, karlpaws said:

You do need to start a whole new game.

Thanks.

Nothing to do with this but I'm just setting up for a new game  - I've just finished the 7 zillion MCMs stage.