Skyrim keeps crashing and I don't know why

[Boyoroony]

So I've recently decided to have another annual run through Skyrim and throw in some mods into the mix as well. Now most of the mods I understand seeing as I've used a good amount in the past but not the LoversLab ones. I know that I'm doing something wrong somewhere, but I need help.

 

So the game crashes 1 out of every 3 times that I save, so sometimes I go awhile without saving, which is problematic.

Sometimes the game just crashes on start up, then it's fine after that.

A LOT of times when I go into areas it crashes straight to desktop. Recently it's been around Riverwood for some reason. When I try to save or walk into a building it crashes immediately, sometimes it even crashes just when I press Esc. to open the save menu. Usually I just reload the game a couple of times, then the game is fine for the next 10 minutes or so. But it's getting to a point where I just can't anymore.

 

Here is my load order:

 

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
CompanionArissa.esm
Vigilant.esm
EFFCore.esm
JSwords.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
SexLab.esm
OSA.esm
Cutting Room Floor.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
lordship.esp
Dark Souls Gameplay 1.2.esp
Billyro Swords.esp
SkyUI.esp
PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp
10 extra effect.esp
Echelon.esp
Mage Glass Sword.esp
Voam.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
HonedMetal.esp
RSChildren.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
3DNPC.esp
Cataract.esp
JaxonzRenamer.esp
DCR_Blade_Set_Reloaded_v1_0.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp
BlackthornManor.esp
OBIS.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
Recorder Follower Base.esp
Recorder Follower Patch.esp
quest_pitfighter.esp
KnightsRest.esp
SOS - Shop.esp
MakeSkyrimStraightAgain.esp
No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp
City Shrines 001M7.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
A Felicidade.esp
Imaginator BETA.esp
Evil MasterMind Armor.esp
Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp
TradeBarter.esp
SkyTweak.esp
FISS.esp
UIExtensions.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-EFFPatch.esp
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
dovahkiin_weapons_shield.esp
DCR_Heavy_Weapons_Set.esp
DarkKnight.esp
JaxonzMapMarkers.esp
RaceMenu.esp
ResplendentArmor.esp
FNIS.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales - Mighty Beasts.esp
Peacekeeper Armour.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
XPMSE.esp
The Paarthurnax Ultimatum.esp
dad_jokes.esp
spawners_10xrichermerchants.esp
Stronger Dragonplate armor.esp
OBISDB.esp
Contractor Armor.esp
Vigilant Voiced.esp
Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Ysolda.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp

 

 

I've also added my Papyrus Script crash log for the last time it happened and an earlier incident.

 

Just some extra details:

- I've run FNIS and everything loaded properly, there were no errors.

- I've run LOOT and everything is apparently in working order there.

- I've run everything through TES5edit and there were no problematic errors there either.

- I do use Vortex, probably to many people's dismay. I just find it more simplistic and easier to use than something like Mod Organizer.

 

This is the first forum post I've made so please let me know if I did anything wrong.

Thanks in advance for any help ?

 

 

Fuck_Knows.txt Earlier_Fuck_Knows.txt

[Grey Cloud]

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimLE:2.10.0

 

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/

 

Pay special attention to the parts about setting up and configuring your game before you install mods.

[plutocene]

Your Skyrim behavior does not make sense to me, but it does indicate a fundamental problem when it crashes on startup already, potentially involving different causes, as a crash on save is associated with corrupted save files. Verify the game files, update graphic driver, verify that your SKSE version is compatible with Racemnu etc. For SKSE for example the latest version in SkyrimSE is incompatible with Racemenu and will crash the game. I dont know whats the status in Skyrim. You also need to upload the netscriptframework crashlogs, the vanilla logs are not particularly helpful. You can further disable all mods and see if the game still crashes on start.

[CaptainJ03]

LE? Try to dump Better Quest Objectives, that crashed my game when adding the DLCs to Oldrim.

And looking in your weirdly renamed Papyrus log, you seem to have massive problems with the XPMSE skeleton and the associated weapon styles. That might need a kick with a nailed boot.

[Psalam]

10 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

That might need a kick with a nailed boot.

You don't need to keep XPMSE in your load order. You need to keep the mod loaded but you do NOT need to activate the esp except for a very few mods (most notably Dual Sheath Redux) none of which I see in your load order.

[belegost]

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A LOT of times when I go into areas it crashes straight to desktop

3 hours ago, Boyoroony said:

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

This is most likely your culprit.

[Boyoroony]

Thank you so much for everyone that has responded!

 

I'm going to take a hot minute and test all of these, then I'll come back and let you all know how it went.

[Boyoroony]

6 hours ago, Psalam said:

You don't need to keep XPMSE in your load order. You need to keep the mod loaded but you do NOT need to activate the esp except for a very few mods (most notably Dual Sheath Redux) none of which I see in your load order.

 

6 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

LE? Try to dump Better Quest Objectives, that crashed my game when adding the DLCs to Oldrim.

And looking in your weirdly renamed Papyrus log, you seem to have massive problems with the XPMSE skeleton and the associated weapon styles. That might need a kick with a nailed boot.

 

7 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimLE:2.10.0

 

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/

 

Pay special attention to the parts about setting up and configuring your game before you install mods.

 

4 hours ago, belegost said:

This is most likely your culprit.

 

Partial success!

I did almost all the things you guys suggested and it seems a lot more stable. I played for about an hour before the stuff started popping back up.

 

I got a crash report from Crash Fixes once that said:

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Skyrim has crashed while setting up FootIK. Some things you

can try to fix this problem:

1. Reduce the amount of installed animations.

2. Try reload the save until it works

I unfortunately had to type it out because my computer was being weird and I had to snap a picture of it with my phone so I'm just transcribing it for you guys.

I don't know what this crash report means seeing as I only have 4 animation mods installed. Maybe they're loading to much stuff? I don't know.

 

I also attached the lastest crash report. This last part keeps popping up and I don't know if that's what's causing the problems.

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warning: Property SexLabGenderFaction on script SOS_ActorMagicEffect_Script attached to Active effect 2 on  (242A4C9F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

 

 

 

6 hours ago, mikovic76 said:

You also need to upload the netscriptframework crashlogs

I don't know what those are. I Googled it and it seems like it's a mod for Skyrim SE, I might just be dumb though.

 

 

I also forgot to mention in my original post that I'm playing on Skyrim LE, if that makes any difference.

 

Thanks again for any help in the future ?

Papyrus.0.log

[Grey Cloud]

8 hours ago, mikovic76 said:

Verify the game files, update graphic driver, verify that your SKSE version is compatible with Racemnu etc. For SKSE for example the latest version in SkyrimSE is incompatible with Racemenu and will crash the game. I dont know whats the status in Skyrim.

Only the last sentence is worth reading.

 

6 hours ago, belegost said:

This is most likely your culprit.

On what basis? Crashing in random areas is 99% memory related. If it was CoT then I doubt the mod would be as popular as it is and has been for a number of years.

 

2 hours ago, Boyoroony said:

I Googled it and it seems like it's a mod for Skyrim SE, I might just be dumb though.

You do not 'need' them and no, you aren't being dumb.

 

2 hours ago, Boyoroony said:

I also forgot to mention in my original post that I'm playing on Skyrim LE, if that makes any difference.

It can make a difference but your load order already told us you are on LE.

[belegost]

9 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

On what basis?

On basis of my own experience. CoT is outdated and was never completely stable to begin with. It was cool back then because there were no alternatives, nowdays there are other weather mods that supercede it.

 

It is "popular" because it has been there a long time and racked up a lot of downloads over the years so it will always come first in any searches but that doesn't mean it's relevant anymore.

[Grey Cloud]

57 minutes ago, belegost said:

On basis of my own experience.

How did I know that this would be the answer? Your single experience against the experience of thousands of others. Rather than waffle about CoT being "outdated" I'll stick with the well documented:

10 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Crashing in random areas is 99% memory related.

 

[belegost]

5 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Crashing in random areas is 99% memory related.

 

That's exactly what CoT does.

[Grey Cloud]

18 minutes ago, belegost said:

 

That's exactly what CoT does.

Er, no.

[Boyoroony]

Well I believe everything is solved on my side, for the most part!

 

I didn't really do anything other than what you guys suggested here and it seems the problems have mostly stopped. I still get the occasional crash here and there but what would Skyrim be without a crash or two.

 

Everyone has been super helpful, so thank you to everyone that gave suggestions! ?

 

1 hour ago, belegost said:

CoT is outdated and was never completely stable to begin with

I unfortunately thought that I had to use it. I don't have a very strong rig so I used "I Can't Believe It's Not ENB" to make the game look a little bit more visually appealing to the eye. After you suggested that I remove it I did a bit more reading and it was apparently not even required for the visual overhaul to run, just suggested so that the visuals look closer to what the mod author intended it to be. I'd rather part ways with it if there's a 5% chance of it causing issues down the line. Though, I will admit, with past playthroughs in which I used CoT I didn't have any trouble with it, so who knows, it may have been the culprit, maybe not. 

 

 

Regardless though, thank you to everyone!

[Grey Cloud]

On 8/25/2021 at 10:08 AM, Boyoroony said:

what would Skyrim be without a crash or two

Properly configured it is quite possible to go a very long time (days/weeks) without Skyrim crashing. Skyrim LE used to be flaky but since 2016 there is no excuse for having a flaky game.

[worik]

On 8/25/2021 at 10:43 AM, belegost said:

That's exactly what CoT does.

? Hmmm, no!

On 8/25/2021 at 11:01 AM, Grey Cloud said:

Er, no.

? Yes.

Anecdotal evidence:

Skyrim LE with COT 5 since Christmas 2015. Using it e.g. in an uninterrupted game for more than 4 years RL, 3 years in game and a few thousands of saves.