Caracter becomes skinny on undressing

[Saryon8]

Hi

I had an old version of CBBE 3BBB so i decide to update to the new 3BA version. I redo the FNIS and BodySlide. When the caracter is clothed it works fine, but when i undress she becomes skinny (see images).

Does someone know where the problem come from and how to solve it?

[Oldwolf58]

either another mod is overwriting the body or you can go into the cbbe folder and delete the female body nif then use body slide to make just the nude body using your preset. ensure you have the build morphs box checked.

 

Sometimes for whatever reason the body in the cbbe folder won't get overwriten with the new body. thats why you should try deleting it then rebuild it in the bodyslide.

 

Edited July 27, 2021 by Oldwolf58

[Psalam]

16 minutes ago, Saryon8 said:

I redo the FNIS and BodySlide.

Did you rebuild the naked body in Bodyslide as well? To my eye it looks as if you have two Bodyslide settings working there. 

[Saryon8]

Rebuild the naked body? I do as i always do with Bodyslide, i choose CBBE 3BBB Amazing, i put the sliders for the high weigh body to what i want, then i click batch then build. And yes i have build morph check.

And i suppress the old Bodyslide files before doing that naturally.

It was working just fine like that before i update the 3BBB: so it seems unlikely to be a mod conflict.

In Mod organizer it seems like the BodySlide output isn't replacing anything, seems to be the source of the problem, but how to solve that?

Edited July 27, 2021 by Saryon8

[Evaloves4]

 

What's wrong with being skinny? I am and I like skinny girls

(Please, pardon me for the joke)

[Saryon8]

Also if i try to create a new caracter, she becomes skinny when she undresses, so the problem don't seem to be coming from my particular save.

When i try "showracemenu" after that, the caracter is also skinny, even if she wasn't before and even with 100 weigh slider!

Nothing wrong with being skinny haha, i just personnaly like more girls with a little more something on the bones haha

Edited July 27, 2021 by Saryon8

[Oldwolf58]

Try opening an outfit in nifscope that has very little clothing and no shoes with it. then strip the body and replace the femalebody_1.nif in Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\Meshes\actors\character\character assets with it. you can also replace the femalebody_0.nif with the stripped 0 body of the clothing. The problem is a lot of the clothing mods remove the body under the outfit so you have to find an outfit that has the full body underneath. Try the Prisoner clothes, they usually are really skimpy and have a full body underneath .

 

The last time I ran into a problem like you describe bodyslide was NOT replacing the nif files and I had to be sure to delete the femalebody_1.nif and the 0 nif then make them in bodyslide. It's almost like bodyslide sees a nif there that is read only and can't replace it. Usually if you delete the nif it will write the new one.

[judge007]

7 hours ago, Saryon8 said:

Hi

I had an old version of CBBE 3BBB so i decide to update to the new 3BA version. I redo the FNIS and BodySlide. When the caracter is clothed it works fine, but when i undress she becomes skinny (see images).

Does someone know where the problem come from and how to solve it?

 

It sounds like body was created with the preview on 100%, and game played with body not at 100%

 

Other option, clothes/armors run through Bodyslide on a different preset.

When you wear the armor, you get body from there, when naked is body from other preset.

 

Last option, you're utilizing a custom race or unique character/player mod and haven't updated meshes to match desired preset.

[Kristus Kringle]

I had this issue after one of the 3ba updates, it kept using the vanilla body instead of my bodyslide, no matter how many times I built it. I don't remember the exact solution but I believe there was a mesh in overwrite causing the problem. If you don't have that problem, rebuild all the outfits, all the nude bodies, then build the 3ba body again and see if that helps. 

[Saryon8]

On 7/27/2021 at 10:59 PM, judge007 said:

 

It sounds like body was created with the preview on 100%, and game played with body not at 100%

 

Other option, clothes/armors run through Bodyslide on a different preset.

When you wear the armor, you get body from there, when naked is body from other preset.

 

Last option, you're utilizing a custom race or unique character/player mod and haven't updated meshes to match desired preset.

I'm absolutely sure i run armor and body just right in bodyslide because it was working just fine before i update. Also i redo it a few time and it didn't help. No custom race too.

I always keep overwrite free as they say you should do in the guide here at loverslab.
 

 

On 7/27/2021 at 9:36 PM, Oldwolf58 said:

Try opening an outfit in nifscope that has very little clothing and no shoes with it. then strip the body and replace the femalebody_1.nif in Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\Meshes\actors\character\character assets with it. you can also replace the femalebody_0.nif with the stripped 0 body of the clothing. The problem is a lot of the clothing mods remove the body under the outfit so you have to find an outfit that has the full body underneath. Try the Prisoner clothes, they usually are really skimpy and have a full body underneath .

 

The last time I ran into a problem like you describe bodyslide was NOT replacing the nif files and I had to be sure to delete the femalebody_1.nif and the 0 nif then make them in bodyslide. It's almost like bodyslide sees a nif there that is read only and can't replace it. Usually if you delete the nif it will write the new one.

How can i access those? I mean that everything in data folder is in bsa form.

Does a way exist to tell bodyslide to send the nif elsewhere? If yes, maybe i can just put the nif in bodyslideoutput at the end of the loading order, so it will replace anything.



 

[Oldwolf58]

5 hours ago, Saryon8 said:

I'm absolutely sure i run armor and body just right in bodyslide because it was working just fine before i update. Also i redo it a few time and it didn't help. No custom race too.

I always keep overwrite free as they say you should do in the guide here at loverslab.
 

 

How can i access those? I mean that everything in data folder is in bsa form.

Does a way exist to tell bodyslide to send the nif elsewhere? If yes, maybe i can just put the nif in bodyslideoutput at the end of the loading order, so it will replace anything.



 

You can have bodyslide send the body to a different folder if you hover over the build button for the body it will tell you to hold control while clicking to create the body in the bodyslide directory. You can then copy the bodies from there and do what you want with them.

[Saryon8]

Just try it: i recreate the right path and put the nif in the bodyslideoutput at end of load order. First weird thing: MO2 don't see any conflit here! Second weird thing: it doesn't work, problem is still the same.

[Tlam99]

If you see no conflict, the path is wrong.

Meshes/actors

 

I guess you set data/meshes

[Saryon8]

No i put it in meshes/actor/character/character assets just like it was in the 3BBB folder, i make a copy paste in fact: that's precisely why i don't understand why MO don't see a conflict.

Edited August 25, 2021 by Saryon8

[Tlam99]

Did you do this ?

 

Racemenu Body Morph Sliders Users should look at this!!

Before updating from v1.50 or below to v1.51 or higher, things you need to look at or do.

 

1. Adjust all Morph sliders value to 0.

 

2. Remove the old Racemenu BodyMorph slider related files.

 

3BBB-RaceMenuMorphs.esp
Scripts/RaceMenuMorphs3BBB.pex

 

3. Update the CBBE to v1.6.0 or higher. (Select and install the Racemenu BodyMorph slider option on CBBE)

 

4. Update the Racemenu to the latest version.

 

5. Finally, select and install the Racemenu BodyMorph slider option in this mod.

 

Additional sliders are generated at the bottom of the CBBE Morph category.

[Saryon8]

I try those but still doesn't seems to work. I have CBBE and Racemenu last version. Problem seems to only affect female which indicate the problem is likely to come from 3BA and not from BodySlide itself.

But reading again the 3BA page, i find something that can maybe explain the problem. I seems that outfit need to be convert to 3BA body and i didn't do that.

If i have to do them one by one (no batch method apparently) it will sure take a while with all the custom outfits i have...

Edited August 26, 2021 by Saryon8

[Saryon8]

I download the brand new version of Bodyslide, redo the batch and... it mysteriouly works: maybe that bug was correct in this last version.

Edited August 26, 2021 by Saryon8

[Tlam99]

Now we got a happySaryon, don't we ?

Grats !

[anjenthedog]

4 hours ago, Saryon8 said:

I download the brand new version of Bodyslide, redo the batch and... it mysteriouly works: maybe that bug was correct in this last version.

Well darn, maybe it's time for me to finally try updating CBBE-3BBB. I'm still using v1.38 because of similar issues after it underwent a "major -ish" overhaul after 1.38

 

thanks for the indirect heads-up.

 

[Tlam99]

The new version is much much better than your 1.38

[anjenthedog]

4 hours ago, T-lam said:

The new version is much much better than your 1.38

I'm sure, but I dread having to basically start over (delete presets, zero everything, etc) 

 

I spent quite a bit of time on my Bodyslide work for my female player and for several followers and have around a dozen or so custom presets, that if I read the directions correctly, will have to be deleted along with zeroing everything out in racemenu. 

 

In any case, having read the OP's report, I'm seriously considering it.  I had much the same symptoms when I updated to 1.52 (my last attempt). 

[Saryon8]

Unfortunatly it doesn't work again. Still the same bug: Bodyslide don't do his job, so clothes don't adapt to body of the people. Seems like with every update this mod become more and more buggy.

With 3BA it totally doesn't work anymore, i try touched by dibella, i can make the batch at least just right, it use the clothes i said it should but character become skinny when putting it on.

I work on this nearly all week end with no result, i'm quite desperate.

[greenmango12]

Did not you install mods which may change PC and NPC mesh path etc?   If I were you,, I may check the body.nif by nif-scope .  I suppose you already clear understand to get nif which currently used from your mod manager. (eg MO2 right pane data tab). Then check the nif in nif-scope. so you can see 0 to 1 body. if it is what you generated in body slide,,,  it means body slide and 3BA actually generate mesh  correctly. 

 

and you should check "generate morph" and generate tri too. (Just confirm)  

 

And if you can not confirm body slide  generate (then overwrite) mesh to the character mesh Data path correctly, , try  ctrl option.  I sometimes use it to avoid auto overwrite current actor mesh.  with ctrl key and generate mesh, BS generate mesh on to the directory where  bodyslide.exe installed.

 

 

 

(as my case I already generated body meshes with ctrl,  and make mods , so it overwrite current one,  if you do not have mesh in the location, new mesh will be generated in overwrite directory of MO2, after generate mesh and check in nif-scope, you locate it correctly then keep as new Mod (which only include Actor mesh only, then put those files should overwrite other mod offer mesh (if you remain old ones) 

 

I recently up-date BS and 3BA but for me it seems work without problem, though I need to re-generate armor  later..  (It somehow complex because some amor not have 3BA slider but CBBE only, and some mesh were I hand made,, so may need to confirm one by one again...) but about Body at least for me it work (though I use CBPC only option, then do not test about 3BA HDT options)

 

 

 

[airnox]

On 8/26/2021 at 11:23 PM, anjenthedog said:

I'm sure, but I dread having to basically start over (delete presets, zero everything, etc) 

 

I spent quite a bit of time on my Bodyslide work for my female player and for several followers and have around a dozen or so custom presets, that if I read the directions correctly, will have to be deleted along with zeroing everything out in racemenu. 

 

In any case, having read the OP's report, I'm seriously considering it.  I had much the same symptoms when I updated to 1.52 (my last attempt). 

 

No worries. Im using old version 1.52 from last year lol. My pc is basically skinny, so alot of sliders are in the negative except her big ass. Hell no am i going to redo all these lol. Took me days to make it 'perfect' 

and then there is the edits and clipping i fixed on almost every outfit i wear. HELLL NOO am i going to redo all that lol. 

 

I was just reading the changelog and fixes and tbh, i dont notice any of those problems in my game. I mean "slightly improved CBPC vagina physics" yeah no thanks, im good. Also alot of fixes are for SMP wich i dont use anyway. 

[Saryon8]

For 3BA it was working with the last 3BBB version but anymore now that's 3BA. Problem is it most of the outfit i have only appears in the first windows, not in the second, when doing the batch, so i an choose betwen different versions. They appear with TBD so the problem seems to come from 3BA.

I have CBPC and HDT, i follow the guide here to the letter and this week end i made a full reinstall (that's why i'm so annoyed).

I will try what you propose, i agree there is chance that work.