Naked Defeat AE/SE

[LordsDu71]

On 10/17/2021 at 10:28 PM, Nymra said:

 

erm... yes of course.

the log saves stuff that Naked Defeat and Sexlab are doing during the "bug situation". this might give me a hint on what goes wrong.

 

just on a sidenote: when that "happens" do you wear any Devious Devices?

 

The bug happened again, I save just after. Here's the log.

Papyrus.0.log

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, LordsDu71 said:

The bug happened again, I save just after. Here's the log.

Papyrus.0.log 1.39 MB · 0 downloads

 

hmm, from what I see I cannot tell anything related to Naked Defeat here.

 

Guessing from the log I would try to find out if the following mods are responsible by uninstalling them one by one and then trying again:
 

1. whorecraft
2. something called "gip"? no idea from what mod that might be.

 

those two spam alot of stuff in the log before it ends, maybe one of them causes the CTD.

[LordsDu71]

8 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

hmm, from what I see I cannot tell anything related to Naked Defeat here.

 

Guessing from the log I would try to find out if the following mods are responsible by uninstalling them one by one and then trying again:
 

1. whorecraft
2. something called "gip"? no idea from what mod that might be.

 

those two spam alot of stuff in the log before it ends, maybe one of them causes the CTD.

I think "gip" is Gossip mod, a simple fame mod.

 

Maybe whorecraft then, I'll try to uninstall it and see.

[gurugeorge]

On 10/19/2021 at 1:28 AM, Nymra said:

 

technically yes. technically meaning: as far as I understand the DAR instructions on nexus ?

 

thx for testing anyway!

 

(keep in mind that, when I understand it correctly and u are using Naked Defeat 3.01 without any BETA

you should, with that condition, be able to turn DAR on and off by turning on and off guard punishment.

 

 

OK I added the thing to the conditions in the idles, ticked the Guards on and went nekkid into a few tussles in Embershard mine and it seems to work, I haven't seen any interfering idles in 3 or 4 tries (from the same save position), and the mod played through to "run!" successfully.  What I did see a couple of times (but not more than that) was the character going into an idle for just a fraction of a second but, so to speak, thinking better of it and shifting back into whatever ND pose they were doing (this would be inbetween "events" when the char is kneeling, hands behind head, etc.).

Edited October 21, 2021 by gurugeorge

[Nymra]

Naked Defeat - 4.0 (FULL)

Updated -Extra- Files: "Naked Defeat - EXTRA - DDe (all versions) Outfits (LE+SE)"
Updated the file path for all DDe versions (3.xx/4.xx/5.xx and also future releases should all work now).
Please report any issues.

PATREON:
I have a Patreon now.

❤️ https://www.patreon.com/nymra ❤️
Please consider supporting me if you like my mods. each patreon will increase the development speed.
Plus I will work on features I personally do not need in Naked Defeat based on the support level:
12$ - work on one feature
24$ - work on two additional features
and so on
Additional features will get a vote system soon so patreons can vote for their wishes. Features can be: Advanced DD support, Better male actor support,  Better Hair Shaving, Toys Support (if possible), also the patreon community can make requests

UPDATING MAIN MOD (3.01 to 4.00)
- RUN FNIS!
- it is advised to update from 3.01 version instead of the betas.
- if you update from a BETA, disable Naked Defeat, uninstall it, clean save and then install new Version (might be superfluous but better save than sorry)

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS:
- PC should no longer be pushed around between sex or during whipping (for VR players: use VR fix to stop spinning, but you will be pushed around then sadly)
- added alot of checks to prevent the mod from beeing stuck in certain rare situations
- added a check for some furnitures to NOT allow whipping (usually when the victim is too low on the ground -> also needs more work)
- added check for the player beeing in water (you have time to leave water before you are forced to the ground) -> untested, please check this out maybe
- added cooldown for combat moan (3 secs) and moan on whipping (3 secs), will add a slider for that too in the next version
- fixed that the whipper sometimes does not appear (made sure only humans are whippers) and also teleport the whipper to the player when he is too far away (could be improved further tho)
- further improved expressions, especially during whipping and furniture game
- rapers will no longer fight each other (hopefully...)
- attackers should be calmed earlier now, no longer attack you after you get up from bleedout (please report back how and if that works for you)
- moaning should play victim sounds now (before it just played normal vanilla sex sounds)
- improved overall timing and idles (idles now included in the mod - RUN FNIS) and have more variety throughout
- improved animation selection for group Sex (less 5P scenes, more 4P and 3P scenes now + you can customize chances now)
- improved sex tags, normal scenes supress leadin (foreplay) and golden showers now nativly
- alof of stuff I probably forgot to write down
- bathing now cleans blood too

SMALL NEW FEATURES:
- added a toggle option to allow the player to die on bleedout (please test if this works for you) -> this is NOT for compatibility with other defeat mods. It could break naked defeat at the moment if you do NOT reload on Death.
This means when you reach 0 HP you DIE and reload. Only way to start Naked Defeat is Critical Defeat or Surrender Key
- add random difficulty for escape game(missing MCM toggle)

NEW FEATURE: Ghost Rape
- if you are downed (0 HP) and no viable raper is around, the mod will spawn 4 human ghosts who take care of the "problem"
- will be expanded further with more ghost types and scenarios
- will get a toggle if you dont like it (did not make it into this version)

NEW FEATURE: Critical Defeat
- when you use combat strip and are hit, there is now an additional chance to start Defeat Scenario (1st dice roll: combat strip chance -> 2nd dice roll: critical defeat chance)

NEW FEATURE: Alot of moaning
- sexlab victim moan on hit in combat (toggle in MCM Extras)
- moaning sound on whipping
- moaning should now correctly use victim sounds (it did not before it seems...)

NEW FEATURE: Scenarios
- Scnearios change the idles played, the sex scenes played (only for humans) and the escape game.
- can set the chance in the MCM.
- yoke and cuffs currently only, each has 50% chance to play. set scenario chance to 100% for testing
- responsive idles for whipping and escape game wiggle
- tons of more scenarios planned

BIG NEW FEATURE: Public Rape
This is a complete overhaul of the Guard Punishment feature and it is only just the beginning.
- when you enter cities or villages a timer will start (10 secs)
- each timer tick the mod will check if you are running, sprinting, sneaking, dirty (the more dirt the higher the chance to raise exposure), armed, naked, barefoot, cumsoaked
- the more from the list above you have the higher the chance to increase "exposure"
- each timer tick will also check for current exposure (exposure vs 100, so 5 exposure is 5% chance of rape)
- if you get too close to ppl when the tick happens or if guards are nearby you will have a temporary increase of exposure
- if nobody is close, you have a 50% chance of your exposure to go down 1
- if you leave the city or village, your exposure will drop to 0 again

Rape is currently identical to the normal Naked Defeat Combat Rape and respects all its settings. I plan on further distinguish both and add more options for Public Rape.
But this is another big step in my mod development and will take some time, since other stuff has priority atm.

NOTE: when you place ZAP Furnitures in cities and towns (or use mods for it, like from tara or Prison overhaul), Naked Defeat will find and use those furnitures for the escape game to use!
NOTE2: allied NPC and Followers currently do NOT count and do NOT increase exposure. I will add options for this in the future
NOTE3: enable debug messages to see the current exposure value of your character periodically
NOTE4: I will add toggles for what kind of stuff can trigger the Rape later

The Rules of the game:
- Behave when you are in the city. Ideally only use "walk" (not even "run"), be clothed and clean, wear shoes and as a hot girl, be armed!
- dont get too close to people and avoid guards
- even when you behave, if there is a guard around, there is a very small chance that he likes your ass too much anyway

Compatibility
- added VRfix to stop spinning (comes from vehicle mechanic used to lock PC in place)
- added SSEfix to prevent equiping HDT enabled items during Scenario Yoke and Cuffs Escape game
- rule out some actors (FEC mod compatibility)
- defeat binds no longer have ZAP keywords (do not break idles and allow combat after escaping)
- toggle for godmode during defeat (not recommended. will prevent stamina damage and sweating from wet function)

Hotkeys:
- improved how the keybinds work when you asign them
- you can only surrender while in combat now among other improvements
- debug hotkeys in whipping could lead to unwanted bugs and stuck quests

Golden showers/pee
- no more pee effect in furnitures when "Forced bathing" is set to 0%

- fixed male Pee not appearing 

Furnitures:
- more furnitures for different enemies (Trolls/Giants)
- toggle to delete last furniture

[NexusRefugee]

>>Warning: Inconsistent mod NakedDefeat. Number of animations differs between FNIS List (93) and corresponding behavior file (97)<< o.O so safe to keep going? 

after running FNIS*

no old version either.

Edited October 21, 2021 by MuchW0W

[Nymra]

1 minute ago, MuchW0W said:

>>Warning: Inconsistent mod NakedDefeat. Number of animations differs between FNIS List (93) and corresponding behavior file (97)<< o.O so safe to keep going? 

after running FNIS*

no old version either.

 

yes that is save to continue. 
 guess I forgot to update the behaviour. but the missing anims will never show in this version.

thx for the info tho, will fix it in the first hotfix that I m sure will be necessary at some point  

[Wayward1]

Gave the new PR feature a test run and, while I like the idea, it was a bit rough in the current iteration. It triggered very easily on the default setting with a PC wearing regular clothes and a weapon and each time my NFF followers were among the attackers.

 

Overall, though, great mod. Thank you for your hard work!

[Nymra]

16 minutes ago, Wayward1 said:

Gave the new PR feature a test run and, while I like the idea, it was a bit rough in the current iteration. It triggered very easily on the default setting with a PC wearing regular clothes and a weapon and each time my NFF followers were among the attackers.

 

you can lower the chance by adjusting the exposure value (the higher the value, the lower the chance. 

getting close to guards or ppl. in general can increase the probability temporaily, so your hot chick needs to try and stay away from ppl and especially guards

 

I also advise to toggle "show debug messages" in the System MCM to see the current exposure value to see the mod work.

 

I will add more options tho and yeah, the feature still needs some tuning for the standard values.

 

Followers will also be worked on, I need to add compatibility for all the follower frameworks of which I use exactly none  

 

16 minutes ago, Wayward1 said:

 

Overall, though, great mod. Thank you for your hard work!

 

thx alot, glad to hear

[iAlopex]

You're awesome i love you man, i love your mod. ❤️

[DocClox]

Out of curiosity ... how incompatible with Sexlab Submit is this? Specifically, if I turn off the "Victor" and "Victim" sections of Submit and just use the speech part?

[Nymra]

21 minutes ago, DocClox said:

Out of curiosity ... how incompatible with Sexlab Submit is this? Specifically, if I turn off the "Victor" and "Victim" sections of Submit and just use the speech part?

 

never tested it really, submit was very unstable even by itself, hmm. 

 

Out of curiosity: which part of submit is it that makes you keep it in your LO next to Naked Defeat? What exactly do you mean with "Speech part"? (its been years that I had it installed, sorry)

edit: Naked Defeat will get machine voiced dialogue and comments as soon as I know how to do it

Edited October 22, 2021 by Nymra

[tznvlw]

Naked Defeat 4.0_FNIS_NakedDefeat_Behavior.7z

 

Fix the problem for FNIS_NakedDefeat_Behavior.hkx. Install manually or with the mod manager

[axone_zero]

How to tag a sexlab? I click on the menu - nothing happens.

The same with outfit tags.

PS Skyrim VR

[monsta88]

Hello there,

 

I think I found an issue. V4.0 SE. I cleaned the save game before installing it.

 

I have the Public Rape and Punishment checked.

 

I had an ongoing sex scene (in public), which was not initiated by this mod. Suddenly this mod triggered as well (not followiung the rules). It didn't even work properly, as ND couldn't find enough attackers, although it happened in an inn, with 5+ NPCs. Maybe their relation was not low enough?

 

Anyway, I think sex scenes should not be interrupted by game mechanics like this.

 

Peace,

M

[evilbom]

  

4 hours ago, tznvlw said:

Naked Defeat 4.0_FNIS_NakedDefeat_Behavior.7z 7.49 kB · 6 downloads

 

Fix the problem for FNIS_NakedDefeat_Behavior.hkx. Install manually or with the mod manager

Thank for Fix

Edited October 22, 2021 by evilbom

[DocClox]

5 hours ago, Nymra said:

never tested it really, submit was very unstable even by itself, hmm. 

 

The conversational sex part is pretty solid. That's all I use from the mod.

 

5 hours ago, Nymra said:

Out of curiosity: which part of submit is it that makes you keep it in your LO next to Naked Defeat? What exactly do you mean with "Speech part"? (its been years that I had it installed, sorry)

 

You get a menu item where you can say "hold up, there's something I want to discuss" or words to that effect. Then you can suggest sex with the other person or try and intimidate them into it.And if you get speech xp and for a successful consensual scene, there's a disposition bump. All of which I find quite useful.

 

I don't actually use Naked Defeat, I should add. I just noticed it in the d/l section (it's been a while since my last trawl through the files) and it looked quite cool. Then I read "incompatible with Submit" so I thought I'd ask.

 

Anyway, that's all I was asking.

[Blue Astra]

Would it be possible to make it so creatures like the falmer don't trigger the simple slavery outcome?

[Nymra]

8 hours ago, axone_zero said:

How to tag a sexlab? I click on the menu - nothing happens.

The same with outfit tags.

PS Skyrim VR

 

erm.... I have no idea what you are asking, sorry

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Blue Astra said:

Would it be possible to make it so creatures like the falmer don't trigger the simple slavery outcome?

 

hmm, technically I could add a toggle. currently all humanoids can sell to SS

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, DocClox said:

 

The conversational sex part is pretty solid. That's all I use from the mod.

 

You get a menu item where you can say "hold up, there's something I want to discuss" or words to that effect. Then you can suggest sex with the other person or try and intimidate them into it.And if you get speech xp and for a successful consensual scene, there's a disposition bump. All of which I find quite useful.

 

I don't actually use Naked Defeat, I should add. I just noticed it in the d/l section (it's been a while since my last trawl through the files) and it looked quite cool. Then I read "incompatible with Submit" so I thought I'd ask.

 

Anyway, that's all I was asking.

 

ah, interesting, never occured to me that the mod has something like that.

 

technically both mods should work together, as long as submits defeat part can be disabled. 
Naked Defeat triggers on bleedout (you reach 0 hp) primarily.

 

Other ways to start naked defeat is via a critical hit in combat (optional) or a surrender key (when you are in combat).

Using those options it could be possible to use both mods combined. 

if you try it, feel free to report back how it worked out. thx

[Nymra]

7 hours ago, monsta88 said:

Hello there,

 

I think I found an issue. V4.0 SE. I cleaned the save game before installing it.

 

I have the Public Rape and Punishment checked.

 

I had an ongoing sex scene (in public), which was not initiated by this mod. Suddenly this mod triggered as well (not followiung the rules)

 

which rules? 

 

7 hours ago, monsta88 said:

 It didn't even work properly, as ND couldn't find enough attackers, although it happened in an inn, with 5+ NPCs. Maybe their relation was not low enough?

 

relation is totally irrelevant for naked defeat, but probably could not find the PC  since PC was already in a scene

 

7 hours ago, monsta88 said:

Anyway, I think sex scenes should not be interrupted by game mechanics like this.

 

yes, agree. I wanted to add a DHLP suspend check but forgot for 4.0 version.
Probably, now that I think about it... DHLP suspend will not be sufficient since many mods do not use it (while they should) and so I will think about checks for running scenes, too.

thx for the feedback! I ll give this priority for the next patch.

[monsta88]

37 minutes ago, Nymra said:

which rules? 

I don't know, what the description mentions. Probably don't be naked in public and such.

 

[Nymra]

56 minutes ago, monsta88 said:

I don't know, what the description mentions. Probably don't be naked in public and such.

 

 

aaah, I see yes, of course, hehe. My bad. 

 

[PerFylk]

8 hours ago, monsta88 said:

Hello there,

 

I think I found an issue. V4.0 SE. I cleaned the save game before installing it.

 

I have the Public Rape and Punishment checked.

 

I had an ongoing sex scene (in public), which was not initiated by this mod. Suddenly this mod triggered as well (not followiung the rules). It didn't even work properly, as ND couldn't find enough attackers, although it happened in an inn, with 5+ NPCs. Maybe their relation was not low enough?

 

Anyway, I think sex scenes should not be interrupted by game mechanics like this.

 

Peace,

M

As soon as a sexlab scene start you are connsidered naked and Whisle blows. Total caos of animations fighting each other. Turn this feature of until the mod maker hopefully fix this. A lot of stress to Naked Defeat og Sexlab and everything fails