Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Connovar]

HI..About Naked Defeat 3-0 full (SE) whit  latest Naked Defeat 3.2 BETA 3 (PATCH!)

The defeat say All is lost I'm in bleedout an then the fight restart..

The Public Rape & Punishment feature  even at 300  doen't work  there is  the exposure notification  but nothing else...

 

 

[axone_zero]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

can you try this fix and see if it works for you?

 

Yes, everything works now, thanks.

 

VR spinning fix works too

[Nymra]

12 minutes ago, Connovar said:

HI..About Naked Defeat 3-0 full (SE) whit  latest Naked Defeat 3.2 BETA 3 (PATCH!)

The defeat say All is lost I'm in bleedout an then the fight restart..

The Public Rape & Punishment feature  even at 300  doen't work  there is  the exposure notification  but nothing else...

 

hmm, this should have been fixed. Try to press the surrender key once when out of combat (K per default), this should fix it. (while technically I also installed a fix for it solving itself automatically, hmm.

 

when in doubt, please try to disable and enable the mod and/or when this does not suffice reinstall it on a clean save (while both steps should not be necessary, hmm) 

 

[Someone92]

Noticed that if you have no available anims the public rape feature breaks.

I was put into handcuffs, and after finding no anim the PC stayed in cuffs and the public rape function did not run anymore.

[Nymra]

25 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

Noticed that if you have no available anims the public rape feature breaks.

I was put into handcuffs, and after finding no anim the PC stayed in cuffs and the public rape function did not run anymore.

 

payprus.log please...

 

also which version did you use? any of the BETAs or no beta at all? 

 

also, could you move or not? meaning were the cuffs just cosmetic? and you mean the exposure did not change anymore?

Edited September 22, 2021 by Nymra

[Connovar]

Ok now it seems working....I think in some way paradise halls was interfering..I didn't change anything but a clean save switching way phae and it start working..( damnit..in the midle of the fight a whiterun guard decided to punish me whipping... and that got myself defeated,,,?...)

[Nymra]

36 minutes ago, Connovar said:

Ok now it seems working....I think in some way paradise halls was interfering..I didn't change anything but a clean save switching way phae and it start working..( damnit..in the midle of the fight a whiterun guard decided to punish me whipping... and that got myself defeated,,,?...)

 

hehehe.

I am might add conditions that prevent public rape, like when the PC is in combat. Drawing a weapon might also interrupt the attempt, allowing the player to fight their way out.

But that is for future updates. 

[Miriam]

36 minutes ago, Nymra said:

I am might add conditions that prevent public rape, like when the PC is in combat. Drawing a weapon might also interrupt the attempt, allowing the player to fight their way out.

But that is for future updates. 

 

For now I managed to escape a few times by running away as fast as I could. It would seem that having a dagger on my hip does not register as 'being armed'. I'll try heavier weaponry next time.

[Nymra]

1 minute ago, Miriam said:

 

For now I managed to escape a few times by running away as fast as I could. It would seem that having a dagger on my hip does not register as 'being armed'. I'll try heavier weaponry next time.

 

running away will not help you

when you pass close to a guard and the 10 sec tick is at that point, you cannot outrun punishment.

funny enough, when you run your exposure is increasing even faster since running and sprinting also increases it. 

 

I just checked the code and the dagger should register.

Did the mod say "Seems like you are unable to protect yourself without a weapon. Let me take care of you"?

 

Beeing armed is not protecting you from exposure, but beeing UNARMED is increasing the exposure even faster

 

so when you are clean, no cum, no dirty, clothed AND armed, you still get exposure for running or sprinting for example.

You have to behave perfectly to keep exposure low or zero.

 

[Miriam]

17 minutes ago, Nymra said:

"Seems like you are unable to protect yourself without a weapon. Let me take care of you"?

 

It did specifically mention this line, yes. Twice now I've been assaulted with this line while actually carrying a dagger on me and being on my absolute best behavior. It might possibly be because of the way the VRIK (VR player avatar) mod that I'm using 'registers' weapons (you can carry many at once on your body, in different slots).

 

But I can happily report that the punishments for bad behavior seem to be working fine for me. I got 'corrected' pretty fast for both sprinting and being naked. I love that whistle sound; it really makes you realize you just goofed.

[astor]

Do spells count as equipped weapons?  As a mage, i don't typically carry weapons (why have the extra weight when i can just summon what i need?).  Also, that whistle is incredibly loud and jarring, makes my tinnitus hate me even more.

[Someone92]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

also, could you move or not? meaning were the cuffs just cosmetic? and you mean the exposure did not change anymore?

Newest version of the beta, official versions don't have public rape yet, do they?

I could still move somewhat, pressing left and right instead moved the PC forward / backward and through some objects.

edit2:

And yeah, no exposure notifications popped up anymore, so without anims it seems to completely break.

 

Have reinstalled all my mods and tried to get it working properly, so the log file of that test was messy. Redid the test.

Animation played this time, but after whipping I just broke free automatically.

 

One of the red messages seems to be missing some text, or not showing it all.

 

"You feel a uneasy" (uneasy what?) Also, shouldn't it be an uneasy?

 

 

 

edit:

Oh, and a suggestion I totally forgot to mention the first time:

What about slightly different rules for guards and citizen?

E.g. a guard doesn't like if you have weapons equipped (or even drawn), while citizen are scared of the PC when they have a weapon equipped, and afraid when drawn.

 

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

Edited September 22, 2021 by Someone92

[Connovar]

Hi Nymra just a quick question... i was wondering if it's possible make work Public Rape & Punishment feature even for the npc..??!!

[Nymra]

27 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

Newest version of the beta, official versions don't have public rape yet, do they?

I could still move somewhat, pressing left and right instead moved the PC forward / backward and through some objects.

 

I have no clue at all what might cause this. Never experienced anything like that nor do I have anything in the scripts that I could think of leading to that behaviour.

Sometimes the camera can break in a very weird way, maybe you experienced that? There are several types of camera breaking tho...

One of them is not recoverable (your cam angle stays the same and you cannot rotate anymore, but when you move your character moves, but the camera does not shift with him).

But when you are able to move through objects... well....

Worst case might be that some other mod is interfering in an unusual way. To find out which mod you would have to unintall them step by bulk.

Or, just to be sure, start a new game with a minimal load order to see if naked defeat still behaves the same. 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

edit2:

And yeah, no exposure notifications popped up anymore, so without anims it seems to completely break.

 

how much time did you let pass? the exposure scan has a cooldown after the rape, so it can be 30seconds, maybe a minute depending on script load to start ticking exposure again.

 

27 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

Have reinstalled all my mods and tried to get it working properly, so the log file of that test was messy. Redid the test.

Animation played this time, but after whipping I just broke free automatically.

 

You are not providing enough details again. whipping in furniture? or whipping in Devious Devices? 

I see the captivequest started, but also it seems you did not press the debug key... hmm.

at least the quest terminated itself in a proper way at least as far as the log goes... so everything after that should have worked normally.

 

You lack the RapeTattoos and FadeTattoos soft requirement btw. I dont think that can lead to that behavioour. but at least it is the only unusual behaviour I can see.

 

27 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

 

One of the red messages seems to be missing some text, or not showing it all.

 

"You feel a uneasy" (uneasy what?) Also, shouldn't it be an uneasy?

 

 

thx, corrected. should just be you feel uneasy lol

 

27 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

 

edit:

Oh, and a suggestion I totally forgot to mention the first time:

What about slightly different rules for guards and citizen?

E.g. a guard doesn't like if you have weapons equipped (or even drawn), while citizen are scared of the PC when they have a weapon equipped, and afraid when drawn.

 

I am working on more parameters on how exposure behaves, yes. I plan on making weapon drawn a deterent against beeing raped, but maybe lead to the guards attacking you instead. Just not sure how to pull that off yet.

[Nymra]

8 minutes ago, Connovar said:

Hi Nymra just a quick question... i was wondering if it's possible make work Public Rape & Punishment feature even for the npc..??!!

 

not planned. In fact I do not plan to add any feature centered around NPC vs NPC behaviour at all at this point. Only followers will be integrated bit by bit.

[Nymra]

53 minutes ago, astor said:

Do spells count as equipped weapons?  As a mage, i don't typically carry weapons (why have the extra weight when i can just summon what i need?).  Also, that whistle is incredibly loud and jarring, makes my tinnitus hate me even more.

 

spells only count when you have them "in your hands" (weapon drawn). They are invisible in all other cases

So I guess mages have to get creative a bit. Or just wear a dagger to appear protected. 

 

I searchend and picked the most annoying whistle I could find, haha!

Edited September 22, 2021 by Nymra

[Nymra]

55 minutes ago, Miriam said:

 

It did specifically mention this line, yes. Twice now I've been assaulted with this line while actually carrying a dagger on me and being on my absolute best behavior. It might possibly be because of the way the VRIK (VR player avatar) mod that I'm using 'registers' weapons (you can carry many at once on your body, in different slots).

 

But I can happily report that the punishments for bad behavior seem to be working fine for me. I got 'corrected' pretty fast for both sprinting and being naked. I love that whistle sound; it really makes you realize you just goofed.

 

The script is using a vanilla function to check for weapons, so it might as well be that this function just checks for regular equiped items. 

It looks in your left and right hand tho, so if the dagger has a "L" or "R" displayed next to it in the inventory/SkyUI favourites menu it should technically still be recognized.

But what do I know.. .hmm. When I find the time I will test with different weapons, maybe something else is not working right.

[Miriam]

  

1 minute ago, Nymra said:

 

It looks in your left and right hand tho, so if the dagger has a "L" or "R" displayed next to it in the inventory/SkyUI favourites menu it should technically still be recognized.

 

 

Yeah, that's probably the issue. In VRIK you just put your weapon somewhere on your body (shoulder, back, wrist, etc), which doesn't set it to "L" or "R" in the inventory. I think VRIK is pretty script heavy with how it stores and recalls weapons in this way, so I don't think there'd be an easy way to prevent me from getting constantly unfairly molested besides me turning the entire public R&P option off, sadly.

[Nymra]

14 minutes ago, Miriam said:

  Yeah, that's probably the issue. In VRIK you just put your weapon somewhere on your body (shoulder, back, wrist, etc), which doesn't set it to "L" or "R" in the inventory. I think VRIK is pretty script heavy with how it stores and recalls weapons in this way, so I don't think there'd be an easy way to prevent me from getting constantly unfairly molested besides me turning the entire public R&P option off, sadly.

 

in a later stage I might add toggles for individual "laws", even when that is basically ruining the whole concept a bit (I wanted the low probability and possibility to make toggles superfluous).

But for such cases... hmm, might be helpfull

[Someone92]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

how much time did you let pass? the exposure scan has a cooldown after the rape, so it can be 30seconds, maybe a minute depending on script load to start ticking exposure again.

Don't remember exactly, but I was running around in the Bannered Mare and then in Whiterun a bit, sneaking in front of people, so it assume more than a minute.

But then again, the test was when I enabled and disabled mods a lot to figure out what triggers my black-faced wenches...

 

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

You are not providing enough details again. whipping in furniture? or whipping in Devious Devices? 

I don't have DD installed, so I guess whipping in furniture?! The PC was bound by their wrists and ankles on a kind of bar hooker.

Afterwards I got the message, like "your captor has secured you extra tightly" or something to that effect, then I was freed the next second. "Better not break the rules the next time".

 

 

 

 

[Nymra]

52 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

Don't remember exactly, but I was running around in the Bannered Mare and then in Whiterun a bit, sneaking in front of people, so it assume more than a minute.

But then again, the test was when I enabled and disabled mods a lot to figure out what triggers my black-faced wenches...

 

hm. ok. maybe just have a look at it some more and report back. I will also try to rerun public rape several times just to double check.

 

 

52 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

I don't have DD installed, so I guess whipping in furniture?! The PC was bound by their wrists and ankles on a kind of bar hooker.

Afterwards I got the message, like "your captor has secured you extra tightly" or something to that effect, then I was freed the next second. "Better not break the rules the next time".

 

I had this happening once, but never was able to reproduce this issue. Might be script lag messing things up, but I see if I can find the circumstances that lead to this.

please see if you have this behaviour all the time or if this was only occuring in a special situation. the log shows me the script part where it happens so I will also try to reproduce this. 

[astor]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

in a later stage I might add toggles for individual "laws", even when that is basically ruining the whole concept a bit (I wanted the low probability and possibility to make toggles superfluous).

But for such cases... hmm, might be helpfull

Wouldn't mind a toggle for the barefoot law.  

[axone_zero]

On 9/23/2021 at 1:54 AM, Nymra said:

Naked Defeat latest 3.2 BETA 3 available 

 

Sometimes (I haven't figured out why yet - maybe after the ghosts) the CalmQuest variable gets stuck at 1000. Perhaps after that, no rape occurs - the bandits just become peaceful and that's it.

How can you reset this variable to zero? Disable-enable didn't help.

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, axone_zero said:

 

Sometimes (I haven't figured out why yet - maybe after the ghosts) the CalmQuest variable gets stuck at 1000. Perhaps after that, no rape occurs - the bandits just become peaceful and that's it.

How can you reset this variable to zero? Disable-enable didn't help.

 

papyrus log plz
1000 is the "end state" for the quest, so that is not stuck.

If this happens the mod thinks the defeat quest is still running while in fact its not.

 

try to press the debug hotkey (K by default) once, to see if that fixes it. 
if not, I will see if I can add even more debug functionality to the hotkey in a quick fix.

 

[axone_zero]

32 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

papyrus log plz
1000 is the "end state" for the quest, so that is not stuck.

If this happens the mod thinks the defeat quest is still running while in fact its not.

 

try to press the debug hotkey (K by default) once, to see if that fixes it. 
if not, I will see if I can add even more debug functionality to the hotkey in a quick fix.

 

Papyrus log

Script.zip