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Skyrim SexLab - Sex Animation Framework v1.62 - UPDATED Jun 3rd 2016


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Interesting phenomena with SL 1.60.2 and SL Cumshot 1.7.1. After the sex my Player have cum traces only on lips and chest, but once he dresses up, cum traces are visible on his armour and sword too. See the pictures:

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This also happens without cumshot. I don't use it and my characters often have splashes on clothes they weren't wearing during sex.

 

 Interesting. :) I didn't have that with SL 1.59c.

 

 

No, I don't remember it before 1.60 either.

 

I don't mind it, though. Maybe my girl just doesn't clean herself up properly and gets that stuff smeared all over everything when she gets redressed? :lol:

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No, I don't remember it before 1.60 either.

 

I don't mind it, though. Maybe my girl just doesn't clean herself up properly and gets that stuff smeared all over everything when she gets redressed? :lol:

 

As you say  - it's not a big deal, but it's unusual that cum stays on my armour much longer then my cum on my female follower's ass. I wish it opposite... :)

 

 

I have the exact same issue except I don't have SL Cumshot installed and never have.

 

Check out me flash hood boss!

 

:D :D :D - well she has unique hood in whole Skyrim - cum covered hood..man it's a new Skyrim fashion trend.  :lol: 

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Now I'm playing with 1.59c again, with PapyrusUtil 3.1, and no freezes whatsoever.

 

I've attached a papyrus log and PapyrusUtilDev.log with freeze/Error R6025 happening just before animation start. zbfSexLab.psc from Zaz shows up for no apparant reason. It does so everytime with 1.60.2 animating and then game crashing, but is absent in 1.59c logs. SexLab isn't registered in Zaz btw.

Literally proof from your own words that it's a problem with your other mods and NOT the framework. The only difference between 1.59c and 1.60 that would cause a c++ errors is PapyrusUtil 3.1. The fact that you're "playing without freeze/error" on 1.59c + the same version of papyrus util as 1.60 says you have an botched install or a mod incompatible with 1.60, and are drawing the entirely wrong conclusion. Not to mention the PapyrusUtil log you attached shows it was doing literally nothing of consequence at the time your game crashed/froze.

 

1.60 is fine. This same advice I've already given over and over again applies here as much as it does practically 95% of the other posts about "1.60 being broken" for the past 5 pages and yet nobody seems to bother doing it:

 

Uninstall SexLab and clean the save file with http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53045/? before reinstalling the framework, and only the framework, after the framework has installed on a clean save, save and install your other sexlab mods. And you almost certainly have an incompatible sexlab mod you're trying to use. Post your load order and check http://www.loverslab.com/topic/51543-sexlab-16x-compatible-mods/

 

 

Because of errors mentioning zbfSexLab.psc in logs with 1.60 installed, I now added Zaz Animation Pack to the uninstall/install process.

 

Et voilà, looks like my problem is solved.

 

 

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I'd like to slap a virtual thigh and shout HUZZAH!!  for Sexlab 1.60.2 and Ashal.

all my character's rumpy pumpy starts sooner and runs smoother than ever before.

with the new wave of animations, and incredible mods like Body Alchemy, ( which makes me feel like I'm directing my own porn movie! " louder moaning please Remy " I wish!), I feel like I'm playing a diffrent game.

 

three cheers for Ashal! hip hip!

 

 

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why is it that my game crashes whenever sexlab animations want to start... there is something wrong with it... and appears im not the only one... and it doesnt even matter what mod triggers the sexlab animations... sometimes they just crash...

have you tried this from a new game yet or are you still trying to salvage an old game

I wasn't able to install the updated papyrus engine to an old game without issues even before the new sexlab was finished with beta

I mean sure it would play for a bit or play for couple hours sometimes, but had ctd's randomly that weren't there before the update with nothing new in the logs to represent why so went back to older papyrus engine and made it stable again for that game until new sexlab finished beta then started a new game with all the updates and added the hotfixes as they came in...

maybe you need a new game as well to get it stable

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There is definitely something fishy with SetScale() 

 

Commenting out any instance of SetScale() in sslActorAlias.psc and recompiling solved 90% of my CTDs.

 

I went from a crash every other sexlab animation to one crash a day maybe...

 

I know that doesn't help anyone who cares about NPC scale and racial profiles but it is worth reporting anyway.

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New version is up: 2.9.1. This is largely a maintenance release. As such, it should be safe to update mid-savegame.

Changelog:

  • Bugfixes (Bad math, missing ground objects, etc).
  • Numerous optimizations.
  • New support for HDT belly compression, to avoid corset/belt belly clipping. 
  • Scaling Framecode changed to utilize NiOverride (XPMSELib), for better mod interoperability. 

The majority of this update was provided by T3h0th3r: Thank you!

 

 

Another release is likely to happen fairly soon, expanding beast race support, and providing support for the upcoming Sexlab release.

 

 

There is definitely something fishy with SetScale() 

 

Commenting out any instance of SetScale() in sslActorAlias.psc and recompiling solved 90% of my CTDs.

 

I went from a crash every other sexlab animation to one crash a day maybe...

 

I know that doesn't help anyone who cares about NPC scale and racial profiles but it is worth reporting anyway.

that might be your issue with scaling, I noticed somebody's log had that version of dd i'd apparently missed for months and already tried old dd with the new sl and get no issues....when I tried updating to the new dd with a new game I started getting ctd's at weird times as well

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well i threw requiem out so i am gonna start a new game... perkus max this time as a overhaul mod...

this one changes less stuff in game so maybe i could avoid more crashes this way... so yeah... starting a new game now and deleting all old ones... so its a fresh clean one...

the other one was kinda an older save from before sexlab was installed in... but still relatively new... 

 

so... should i also not use the automatic scaling of characters to avoid more crashes or what?

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well i threw requiem out so i am gonna start a new game... perkus max this time as a overhaul mod...

this one changes less stuff in game so maybe i could avoid more crashes this way... so yeah... starting a new game now and deleting all old ones... so its a fresh clean one...

the other one was kinda an older save from before sexlab was installed in... but still relatively new... 

 

so... should i also not use the automatic scaling of characters to avoid more crashes or what?

 

I, too, am getting those random crashes.  Also having problems with the Free Camera option where I can't control my character after sex.  So, currently I'm updating some of my other mods I just learned were outdated.  Going to clean up my mod list some more and start a new game.

 

I'll try disabling scaling and see if that makes a difference.  If not I'll try the previous suggestion of commenting out 'SetScale'.

 

On another note, I also noticed the cum texture being applied over clothing as well.  To be honest, I like this feature/bug.  I think it'd be great if there was a toggle for players to choose between applied to skin or over clothing/armor.  I thought it was hilarious when I saw cum stains on Lydia's shield!

 

A bit off topic, but I want to ask: Has anyone had a character name only show up in lowercase letters?  Tried naming a character Chance but in save files and other places it came up as 'chance'.  Changed the character name in the racemenu to something else and it was just fine.  Changed it back to Chance and it was all lowercase again.

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guess you have to ask about that in some racemenu mod... i am pretty sure this place doesnt deal with character names in any way what so ever... but you can wait for someone smarter to answer...

 

i also am now cleanin up my modlist, updating everything to the latest possible date... hmm better vampires now has a requiem compatibility patch... who knew eh... well... its gone anyway...

 

and just had a little bit water form on my left eye as i deleted all the saves i had... almost feeling like a wow freak deleting his max level chars to give up wow...

 

on another note... i also like the cum on clothes thing... having it everywhere to show that... you did it you dirty little horndog you... :D loved it when i had it smeared over my sword... damn that was a hot sight... dont know why :D

 

btw... what does "commenting out 'setscale' " mean... since i have no idea what you mean by that...

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guess you have to ask about that in some racemenu mod... i am pretty sure this place doesnt deal with character names in any way what so ever... but you can wait for someone smarter to answer...

 

i also am now cleanin up my modlist, updating everything to the latest possible date... hmm better vampires now has a requiem compatibility patch... who knew eh... well... its gone anyway...

 

and just had a little bit water form on my left eye as i deleted all the saves i had... almost feeling like a wow freak deleting his max level chars to give up wow...

 

on another note... i also like the cum on clothes thing... having it everywhere to show that... you did it you dirty little horndog you... :D loved it when i had it smeared over my sword... damn that was a hot sight... dont know why :D

 

btw... what does "commenting out 'setscale' " mean... since i have no idea what you mean by that...

 

Regarding the saves, yeah I feel your pain.  I used to back them up... until I realized I never used them again.  The ache will pass.

 

So, cum on your sword, eh?  Now that's awesome!  If this 'feature' ever gets fixed I think I'll request a mod just to bring it back!  Call it the 'Messy Orgasm' mod!  Have it put cum all over both partners after a custom animation and particle effect or something.

 

And as for "commenting out setscale", that was mentioned earlier in this topic.  It means to go into the appropriate script file and edit out commands.  It could turn out messy if you make a mistake.

 

Now, for an update.  I've updated a couple mods and restarted from scratch.  So far, using the default settings I haven't noticed any problems.  The Scaling feature is disabled by default so I've left it alone.  After a few encounters I was rather pleased; even noticed my Sex Journal was updating properly.  Then I enabled Free Camera to see if that has been fixed.  Nope, my character just stands there unmoving.  *sigh*  If anyone has any suggestions or needs extra details, like a mod list, just ask.  I'm currently at a loss, but I'm loathe to revert back to 1.59.  I wanna see this one work!

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I suspect there's a very simple answer to this so will apologise in advance for being stupid. How do you align animations that your character is watching but not involved in? Thanks

 

Look at one of the actors then press the target actor hotkey (which defaults to 'N') It should then prompt you if you want to take control of the scene or not.

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Wanted to report/confirm (although it was probably reported already) CTDing on hight adjusting in SL 1.60.2 that happens quite often. I just reported now.

Have all requirements listed in OP and did installation according to instructions. This is a new game and new character.

 

 

SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - AnimationEnding
[09/08/2015 - 08:49:00AM] [slainternalscr <sla_Internal (18083137)>]: Adam Archer got -42 exposure for having orgasm
[09/08/2015 - 08:49:01AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Camilla Valerius]  - Resetting!
[09/08/2015 - 08:49:01AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Adam Archer]  - Resetting!
[09/08/2015 - 08:49:01AM] [slainternalscr <sla_Internal (18083137)>]: Camilla Valerius had orgasm date updated
[09/08/2015 - 08:49:01AM] [slainternalscr <sla_Internal (18083137)>]: Camilla Valerius got -42 exposure for having orgasm
[09/08/2015 - 08:49:01AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Event Hook - AnimationEnd
[09/08/2015 - 08:49:01AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0]  - Auto saving adjustments...

 


 

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so i was strolling down to riverwood... met some imperials with a prisoner... killed the imperials... extracted some blood from them... had sex with my prostitute... then drank some blood from a bottle... then continued towards riverwood... oops... teleport... YAY im Flying :D... ow... shit... that hurt... opponent doesnt accept surrender... and i turn into ashes... this problem was mentioned earlier here too i belive... i forgot where i teleported but it had a few giants... i died from the fall... not from giants...

some basin i think it was... 

 

anyways... papyrus log if it helps... and yes... its a clean new fresh game started with alternate life from whiterun... all mods up to date, sorted with loot... properly placed...

 

Papyrus.0.log

 

also my load order and mod order (mod order on the left in MO starting from the last)

 

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
SkyUI.esp
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
P1FlyingRing.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
MorePP.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
PermanentLegendaryBonus.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
Uncle Sheo.esp
WerewolfMastery.esp
UIExtensions.esp
VioLens.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
Better Vampires.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Shop.esp
Vampirelordroyal.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
UnblockActivateNoWereNoMap.esp
VL No AoE Drain.esp
BVandRB_Formlist.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
CharacterMakingExtender.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
SexLabTools.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp
 
 
AND Mod Order
 
# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
+FNIS-GENERATED
+Patchus-GENERATED
+SexLab - CumShot
+Sexlab Framework 2
+SL tools anim
+VioLens - A Killmove Mod
+SexLab - Submit
+TDF Aggressive Prostitution
+NetImmerse Override
+SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - 3.00.004
+MoreNastyCritters
+Radiant Prostitution 3.2.1
+Non-SexLab Animations Pack
+ZazAnimationPack
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton - XPMS
+Realistic Ragdolls and Force
+SexLab Aroused
+SexLab Cum textures
+SexLabFramework
+DVA Dynamic Vampire Appearance
+Fine Face Textures for Men by Urshi
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
+Vampire Lords can Loot and Activate
+Royal Bloodline - Vampire Lord perk tree - abilities - and more
+Better Vampires 7.1
+Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul
+Werewolf Mastery
+Immersive College of Winterhold
+Permanent Legendary Bonuses
+UIExtensions
+Uncle Sheogorath
+ApachiiSkyHair
+Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice
+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles
+Smart Cast
+Forgotten Magic Redone
+Animated Dragon Wings
+Flying Mod Beta
+Fire and Ice Overhaul - Version 3.3
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS
+More Perk Points per Level and Dragonsouls to Perk Points
+Enhanced Character Edit
+SkyUI
+-----SKSE SCRIPTS----- 1 07 03
+Unofficial High Resolution Patch
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
+Unofficial Skyrim Patch
 

 
 
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and i quote :
Runtime Error!

 /TESV.exe

R6025

- Pure Virtual Function Call

 

 :endquote

 

log...Papyrus.0.log

 

happened after arrok anal finished... a weird animation... is it only me or do arrok ap and leito animations have serious problems... arrok half of the time lines up with 2 characters on totally different pages, sometimes not even on the same floor -_- ... leito is just... too straight... and ap has weird twists...

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In case nobody reported this one yet. I have been getting several Pure Virtual Call runtime errors at or soon after SexLab's global adjustment profile.

 

It have Animation Profile set to #1 with Race/gender adjustments set to OFF and Even actor Height set to OFF as well.

 

Usually, these errors seem to happen after a dialogue topic where my character receives an item (begging in SexLab Dialogues).

 

Edit:

 

Here is a typical example of log when that happens:

 

 

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [Zad]: OnSleepStop()

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [sLRArousalPollingScript ]: Running update...

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [sLRArousalPollingScript ]: Isn't aroused enough yet.

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [Zad]: Finished processing events. Re-Polling..

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [Zad]: ZadNpc::OnUpdateGameTime()

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [Zad]: CheckAllEvents()

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [Zad]: ZadNpc::DoRegister(1.499992)

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [CF][Framework] Didn't add active actor ["Bailey" [Actor < (B506D8C3)>]]; already active

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [sD] SLavery exposure: 158 - level: 6

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [sLH] Bimbo status update - Days transformed: 20

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] [slh+] bimbo transformation level: 0

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] SEXLAB - GetByTags(ActorCount=1, Tags=Masturbation,F, TagsSuppressed=, RequireAll=TRUE)

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:50AM] SEXLAB - Found Animations(5)

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - Entering Making State

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] SexLife: OnUpdate start work function

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] [sLH] Days since Sex acts : 1

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Lucrecia) -- TRUE -- HIT

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] [Zad]: Player is in a sexlab scene. Not starting new vibration effect.

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] SEXLAB - ActorAlias[Lucrecia] SetActor([Actor < (00000014)>]) - [sslActorAlias ]

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] [Zad]: Player is in a sexlab scene. Not starting new vibration effect.

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - Using Bed Type: 3

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] - Filtered out '0' Primary Animations with tags: ["Furniture", "Standing"]

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] SEXLAB - NOTICE: ValidateActor(Jesper) -- TRUE -- HIT

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] [Zad]: Processing [Trip over]

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] [Zad]: Config Interval:1.500000. Total number of events: 1. Next staggered update in 1.500000

[09/06/2015 - 09:54:51AM] SEXLAB - Thread[0] Adjustment Profile - Global

 

 

 

I don't know about globals, but I know I tried updating to dd 2.9.1 after reading about it in somebody's log and started a fresh game with it after then started getting those Pure Virtual Call runtime errors

In 1.59c, my game crashed half of the time I tried to start animations, now in 1.60 it crashes when the animations finish.  I'll also get a runtime error message (Visual C++ Pure Virtual Function Call R6025) just as often as the CTDs. 

 

I have my skeletons installed correctly and FNIS, so why am I always getting these errors and problems? 

 

I'd also like to mention that my computer isn't the greatest, I can't run Skyrim anything above the low ini settings so is it just my system that can't handle these animation mods or something else I'm doing wrong? 

 

Please Help!

always post your papyrus log when asking for help with a crash

 

 

Here's a log from a crash on load.  This is one of the three types of crashes I've been having for quite a long time on Skyrim now.  The other two being CTD on saving and the animation crashes I mentioned before. 

 

I haven't had the opportunity to start a Sexlab animation in this playthrough for a while, but I will post that crash log just as soon as it happens again. 

 

I'm hoping the CTD problem can be found, even if it's something I can't fix.

Papyrus.1.log

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Since updating to 1.60.2 all of the aggressive tagged animations play duirng non-aggressive scenes, and loving animations like foreplays and foot fetish plays during rape scenes. I do not have the checkmark that allows for use of Aggressive during non-aggressive scenes.

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Since updating to 1.60.2 all of the aggressive tagged animations play duirng non-aggressive scenes, and loving animations like foreplays and foot fetish plays during rape scenes. I do not have the checkmark that allows for use of Aggressive during non-aggressive scenes.

ive had that happen for quite some time now... but since most of my animations involve 2 males... i thought there just werent any other animations available for the current situation... but yeah... any animation that is registered... goes... no matter what the situation is...

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Here's my CTD problem.  It happens way too often.  I mostly notice the crash after playing for a while (bandit killing, quests, etc.)  then I'll start a sex dialogue in a random town or something, then BAM!  CTD before or after the animation. 

 

I'll also get CTDs on loading saves from the main menu, and sometimes loading a save after dying causes CTD.  The third and probably the worst one is CTD on save. Once I reach a certain point in a playthrough, the game instantly crashes whenever I try to save.  I try save cleaning and just about everything else but it will crash anyway.  then I have to start everything over.

 

I don't even know what mod might be causing it, or if it's just that my computer can't handle the all of memory.  I'd like to at least identify the problem.   

 

Here's the logs from an animation crash and a crash on loading (no save CTD on this playthrough yet, sorry)  and I'll even include the load order. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

Papyrus.1.log

loadorder.txt

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Here's my CTD problem.  It happens way too often.  I mostly notice the crash after playing for a while (bandit killing, quests, etc.)  then I'll start a sex dialogue in a random town or something, then BAM!  CTD before or after the animation. 

 

I'll also get CTDs on loading saves from the main menu, and sometimes loading a save after dying causes CTD.  The third and probably the worst one is CTD on save. Once I reach a certain point in a playthrough, the game instantly crashes whenever I try to save.  I try save cleaning and just about everything else but it will crash anyway.  then I have to start everything over.

 

I don't even know what mod might be causing it, or if it's just that my computer can't handle the all of memory.  I'd like to at least identify the problem.   

 

Here's the logs from an animation crash and a crash on loading (no save CTD on this playthrough yet, sorry)  and I'll even include the load order. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

 

Well... I guess you can find a clue in the 138-THOUSAND lines of errors and warning from the "ORD_Performer_Quest_IrresistibleDance" quest.

I am asuming that come from the Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim mod. Try disabling that mod and see if that makes a difference with respect to the CTD's?

 

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Here's my CTD problem.  It happens way too often.  I mostly notice the crash after playing for a while (bandit killing, quests, etc.)  then I'll start a sex dialogue in a random town or something, then BAM!  CTD before or after the animation. 

 

I'll also get CTDs on loading saves from the main menu, and sometimes loading a save after dying causes CTD.  The third and probably the worst one is CTD on save. Once I reach a certain point in a playthrough, the game instantly crashes whenever I try to save.  I try save cleaning and just about everything else but it will crash anyway.  then I have to start everything over.

 

I don't even know what mod might be causing it, or if it's just that my computer can't handle the all of memory.  I'd like to at least identify the problem.   

 

Here's the logs from an animation crash and a crash on loading (no save CTD on this playthrough yet, sorry)  and I'll even include the load order. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

 

Well... I guess you can find a clue in the 138-THOUSAND lines of errors and warning from the "ORD_Performer_Quest_IrresistibleDance" quest.

I am asuming that come from the Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim mod. Try disabling that mod and see if that makes a difference with respect to the CTD's?

 

 

 

I just installed that mod a few days ago and this CTD has been going on much longer than that.  the performer quest has something to do with the Perform perk added to the Speechcraft tree.  I used that a few minutes before the crash but I don't know why that would be a problem. 

 

the dialogue to start the animation that crashed was from Sexlab Solutions.  But these crashes seem totally random to me, that's why it's been so hard for me to figure out what's causing them. 

 

Edit:  Is there something wrong with my load order?  I run LOOT all of the time but I notice that when I move some plugins around, then sort them again, they remain there anyway.  Should I move the Sexlab related plugins toward the bottom,  or maybe some other plugin that is causing all of these CTDs?

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