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24 minutes ago, whooptyscoop said:

Coming back to this mod after a while, seeing that ostim can be run with it as a soft dependency. Just wanted to ask if anyone runs both sexlab and ostim at the same time with DoM and if they can be run alongside each other?

It should be possible. Main problem is In don't use Ostim, so I need more reports from users to correct the interface with DOM. 

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So I got a new strange one here.

 

Been focusing on leaving slaves in HSH this time for breaking and brainwashing as mentioned before.

And while they started kicking in naturally from trauma buildup and regular playtime, I got one that became charmed.

Isn't that something exclusive to hired slavers? She was a regular captured bandit that was never assigned as a DoM slaver/henchwench

Or at least a normal captured non-unique encounter anyway, I think another issue I have found is that somethings are lost, or perhaps not writing correctly, if you try to write their jsons while they are in HSH. As her memory capture origin related stuff did not show anything when i tried writing her json in HSH to look for any weirdness as to why she's charmed. (other than that the only odd thing I saw was her base emotionality was set to -1)

 

the only thing i can possible think of she was currently training a slave in HSH when this happened, but i don't know if my other inlove, and one loyal slaves were trainers or trainees in HSH when they got brainwashed (I'm just guessing the 1 loyal never had any sex/flirt while in HSH when the trauma reset)

 

pics and her json while in hsh.

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00068ACA_Freja.json

 

 

update: a little more time later and +2 more charmed HSH slaves, both were training someone, but i can confirm some of my inloves were trainers as well so it could be something else that part of the equation like maybe honesty or something

Edited by McLovin3
Posted (edited)

Hi TAK, I've been redoing my Load Order because I finally decided to update to the latest version. What a effing nightmare having to update a looooooot of stuff. Obviously, your mod is a must-have. I just want to confirm, your great mod no longer needs the original Pahe or HSH, right? I want to keep things as simple as possible, I don't want to have to deal with CTD due to some carelessness of mine and we already know what Skyrim is like on this subject.

Edited by 深淵の神
Posted
7 hours ago, McLovin3 said:

So I got a new strange one here.

 

Been focusing on leaving slaves in HSH this time for breaking and brainwashing as mentioned before.

And while they started kicking in naturally from trauma buildup and regular playtime, I got one that became charmed.

Isn't that something exclusive to hired slavers? She was a regular captured bandit that was never assigned as a DoM slaver/henchwench

Or at least a normal captured non-unique encounter anyway, I think another issue I have found is that somethings are lost, or perhaps not writing correctly, if you try to write their jsons while they are in HSH. As her memory capture origin related stuff did not show anything when i tried writing her json in HSH to look for any weirdness as to why she's charmed. (other than that the only odd thing I saw was her base emotionality was set to -1)

 

the only thing i can possible think of she was currently training a slave in HSH when this happened, but i don't know if my other inlove, and one loyal slaves were trainers or trainees in HSH when they got brainwashed (I'm just guessing the 1 loyal never had any sex/flirt while in HSH when the trauma reset)

 

pics and her json while in hsh.

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update: a little more time later and +2 more charmed HSH slaves, both were training someone, but i can confirm some of my inloves were trainers as well so it could be something else that part of the equation like maybe honesty or something

Charmed is for non slaves. But there is a bug for HSH slaves. It will be corrected next update.

Posted
6 hours ago, 深淵の神 said:

Hi TAK, I've been redoing my Load Order because I finally decided to update to the latest version. What a effing nightmare having to update a looooooot of stuff. Obviously, your mod is a must-have. I just want to confirm, your great mod no longer needs the original Pahe or HSH, right? I want to keep things as simple as possible, I don't want to have to deal with CTD due to some carelessness of mine and we already know what Skyrim is like on this subject.

Pahe is optional. HSH and AYGAS are add-ons.

Posted

I have a question. If I leave a task Mistress she trains all the HSH slaves right? They have a dialogue option to return to there trainer. 

But I also have two dedicated trainers there and they are training specific slaves with the dialogue I want you to train a slave. These are all via HSH.  Will the task Mistress train all slaves there's including the ones set to the dedicated trainers? 

Also the slaves don't seem to increase there sex skills even though I told them to all play with other slaves and practice there sensual arts on the other slaves. 

So if I add a DOM slaver they should train all the slaves the task Mistress is training? I'm not sure if the task mistress just speeds up training or trains slavers herself and will she speed up training for a DOM slaver who is training the slaves at the same location who has been assigned to make that same cell there home Base?

Like is the most efficient way to train slaves to have a task Mistress, dedicated HSH trainers, and then a DOM slaver or trainers assigned to the area or to guard the cell? I can make a DOM slave into a trainer too without freeing them, I guess that's the same as a slaver?

Posted (edited)
50 minutes ago, natybs said:

I have a question. If I leave a task Mistress she trains all the HSH slaves right? They have a dialogue option to return to there trainer. 

But I also have two dedicated trainers there and they are training specific slaves with the dialogue I want you to train a slave. These are all via HSH.  Will the task Mistress train all slaves there's including the ones set to the dedicated trainers? 

Also the slaves don't seem to increase there sex skills even though I told them to all play with other slaves and practice there sensual arts on the other slaves. 

So if I add a DOM slaver they should train all the slaves the task Mistress is training? I'm not sure if the task mistress just speeds up training or trains slavers herself and will she speed up training for a DOM slaver who is training the slaves at the same location who has been assigned to make that same cell there home Base?

Like is the most efficient way to train slaves to have a task Mistress, dedicated HSH trainers, and then a DOM slaver or trainers assigned to the area or to guard the cell? I can make a DOM slave into a trainer too without freeing them, I guess that's the same as a slaver?

Taskmistress gives a bonus to the trainers and plans which kind of training should be done.

 

Slavers just do their stuff unaware of their trainees being HSH or not, for the moment.

 

Most efficient training is the player's. Then if you have a full HSH house with good trainers, taskmistress and a slaver guard also set to train the slaves there, you're maxed.

Edited by TrollAutokill
Posted
1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

Taskmistress gives a bonus to the trainers and plans which kind of training should be done.

 

Slavers just do their stuff unaware of their trainees being HSH or not, for the moment.

 

Most efficient training is the player's. Then if you have a full HSH house with good trainers, taskmistress and a slaver guard also set to train the slaves there, you're maxed.

Ok good to know. I noticed the HSH trainers seem to evenly increase stats unless you tell the task Mistress to increase a specific stay like sex or combat. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, MortiferusX said:

Where is 7.10 in the Downloads now?

 

I have currently 7.10.0a, the Download-Page is numbered as 7.10.1a but in the Downloads, I sea only 7.9 Versions.

There was something weird going on with Loverslab's download. The latest version is on Patreon, there is a free subscription option.

Posted

Does anyone else experience that the Ostim scenes with the slaves work wonderfully, but with the lovers they don't work at all? How can I fix this? Sexlab doesn't appear in my load order, only Ostim and all the other mods work without problems.

Posted (edited)

I tried some P+, and here’s a list of what works for me and what doesn’t:

Works:

- Starting scene

- Had sex counter

- Praising for having had sex with correct attributes (though sometimes “had gangbang” shows up for no reason)


Does not work:

- Virginity loss (could be my slave is bugged)

- Never got her to orgasm apart from masturbation (sounds real tho, could be a feature 🤔)

- Slave sex stats do not increase with sex, only with masturbation, praising, etc.


In both End of Scene (Legacy) and Orgasm Stage modes, the player comes at the event. If I activate the separate orgasm function, the player only comes on the first event (also, the function in DoM is grayed out, so I can’t test that). “Player comes” means the DoM message is played.

Of course, the regular SexLab problems still apply — SexLab recognizes the orgasm while DoM says it never happened (arousal removal, etc.). This also applies to regular SexLab. I never figured out how that was supposed to work, even back in the old days.

 

Would be nice if someone could share their experience with P+ (maybe my test slave is just a tough one). What works for you and what doesn’t? What are your settings?

 

Edit: Also discovered arousel beeing stuck at 100% on the NPC after testing.

 

Edited by DieHans
Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, DieHans said:

I tried some P+, and here’s a list of what works for me and what doesn’t:

Works:

- Starting scene

- Had sex counter

- Praising for having had sex with correct attributes (though sometimes “had gangbang” shows up for no reason)


Does not work:

- Virginity loss (could be my slave is bugged)

- Never got her to orgasm apart from masturbation (sounds real tho, could be a feature 🤔)

- Slave sex stats do not increase with sex, only with masturbation, praising, etc.


In both End of Scene (Legacy) and Orgasm Stage modes, the player comes at the event. If I activate the separate orgasm function, the player only comes on the first event (also, the function in DoM is grayed out, so I can’t test that). “Player comes” means the DoM message is played.

Of course, the regular SexLab problems still apply — SexLab recognizes the orgasm while DoM says it never happened (arousal removal, etc.). This also applies to regular SexLab. I never figured out how that was supposed to work, even back in the old days.

 

Would be nice if someone could share their experience with P+ (maybe my test slave is just a tough one). What works for you and what doesn’t? What are your settings?

 

Edit: Also discovered arousel beeing stuck at 100% on the NPC after testing.

 

I saved your post for later. P+ will come after HSH and AYGAS.

 

Meanwhile, I will allow the SLSO option if P+ is detected.

Edited by TrollAutokill
Posted
7 hours ago, Komandante88 said:

Does anyone else experience that the Ostim scenes with the slaves work wonderfully, but with the lovers they don't work at all? How can I fix this? Sexlab doesn't appear in my load order, only Ostim and all the other mods work without problems.

So you mean you see stats being trained and all, for slaves, but for free NPCs? Or does the scene not even start for free NPCs?

Posted
9 hours ago, MortiferusX said:

Where is 7.10 in the Downloads now?

 

I have currently 7.10.0a, the Download-Page is numbered as 7.10.1a but in the Downloads, I sea only 7.9 Versions. 

 

9 hours ago, a_random_user said:

There was something weird going on with Loverslab's download. The latest version is on Patreon, there is a free subscription option.

I guess the 7.10.5 file got stuck somewhere on LL servers. I can't upload it now even with a name change. I hope it will work with next update and a different file.

Posted

Using DOM 7.10.5; no PAHE; HSH & AYGAS with current DOM patches

 

Finally managed to get a newly trained slave to sell in Whiterun!  To Nazeem. 🙂 The skinflint wasn't paying much though.  And I did screw up on the outfit change settings so she reverted to some of her earlier stuff, rather than the DDs she was sold in, although they are still in her equipment, just not worn

 

Sale records OK in AYGAS etc

 

The fun, and intriguing part, is that his new acquisition follows him around, posing in stocks ocasionally, and so on, but, additionally, he 'talks' to her.  I don't remember ever seeing that in PAHE+HSH+AYGAS 

 

Anyone else encountered this?  Has TAK slipped in a few tweaks to AYGAS already?  Or are they just something I missed in previous DOM versions? 

 

Whatever, it's fun to watch ☺️

 

DQW

 

===============

 

PS:  Tip for anyone struggling to find trainers.  

 

Just Cheat!  It's a magical world, so get and use Creature Summons spells - using some of the ABC creaturre equipped mods.  Paralyse whichever one you summonsed - for a reasonable time to do the next parts - and then use the console to ....

 

setfactionrank DOMPotentialSlaverFaction 1

 

.... and subsequently - whilst making sure you don't kill them, whack them until their health reduces to the point where you get the 'DOM Recruit' text box, select that, and you have one brand new trainer, with unquenchable enthusiasm and stamina.  Trolls (may need 'Trolls Speak' mod), Orks etc are particularly good.

 

Note - only summon creatures that can be paralysed - eg draugr based creatures can't be and will kill you once you whack them - and those that can 'talk'.  Some can't and will either kill you first, or are as much use as silent chocolate teapots

 

DQW

Posted
5 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

I saved your post for later. P+ will come after HSH and AYGAS.

 

Meanwhile, I will allow the SLSO option if P+ is detected.

 

If it helps, I've been using P+ for a while (3 months) with DOM:

- when orgasm is set to separate (not legacy, which is the default), then slave orgasms in SL sense. Reading @DieHans's message I realize there was a DOM system I never saw because I always used P+.

- Virginity loss seems to work factionwise for me but not all the time. My early conclusion was that it might be an animation tag problem.

- Same for sex stats: sometimes I would do oral and it's another sex skill that would increase. This might be due to the fact P+ handles animations differently and is not compatible with tools like SLATE which I think improve the tagging for many mods.

- Yesterday I've had a first time bug repeatedly with SLP and DOM both failing: the DOM wheel doesn't work for certain slaves = it doesn't show up but the dialogue works + the SL MCM is frozen/inaccessible -> saving and reloading the new save seems to fix it, and when I reload, the DOM wheel pops up as many times as I had prompted it earlier + the SL MCM is accessible again. So it's not gamebreaking, just weird.

- This one might be more related to HSH but since it involves SL scenes as well: In a HSH cell, when asking the taskmaster to not train slaves in sex, the trainers will still do it.

- The rest seems to work flawlessly with SLP+

 

I'm using:

  • SexLab Framework PPLUS - V2.15.7 - 1.6.1170
  • PAH Diary Of Mine 7.9.4a_SE_fomod
  • PAH_HomeSweetHome_1.33b_SSE

 

I'm happy to report this, and I would also like to make a tiny suggestion for the readme regarding enslavement, especially to first time users, after testing standard Pahe for 8 months and DOM for 3 months:

- Yes, non-unique NPCs can be enslaved, and it works for the most part. And it doesn't crash. It's not a major issue.

- However, over time, I can safely say it completely fucks up the slave list names as it merges non-unique names with uniques. Example: list contains Nazeem and bandit warrior. over time bandit warrior becomes Nazeem, and Nazeem potentially vanishes from the list. The editor ID in the console is still bandit warrior XXX though. This is problematic for mods like Skyrimnet for example, where the LLM heavily relies on names for everything: conversation, actions. 

- Worse, non-unique NPCs seem to become buggy over time. I have had the case several times that when I just leave them for a while in a different cell and I come back, they are not slaves anymore. If I open the wheel, it says 'abduction' and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I just end up killing them because it's annoying so no big deal and no crash but it's definitely weird.

 

FYI I'm using the following mods that add some generic NPCs and that could be the cause - again it's not Pahe/DoM fault, but would be great if there was a word of caution about enslaving non-unique NPCs for people like me who didn't understand until recently that non-uniques are regularly flushed by the system and not permanent in the right sense, which can fuck up the game a little bit.

  • OBIS SE - Organized Bandits In Skyrim Special Edition: just adds more non-unique bandits
  • Ambient Slaves SE v0.4b (with Mister X fix): adds more non-unique NPCs, some building meshes around cities, patrols but they are heavily bugged with DOM: enslavement doesn't work well, names get mixed up in the list. Again, probably the way they implemented it is the cause.
  • Enemy Plus: adds a lot of hostile creatures that are really cool. names get also mixed up over time in the slave list because they are generic though
  • VIGILANT SE AE v173: adds a whole new world with quests, many enemies (think Dark souls like DLC). I tried to enslave some of them, it works but breaks over time because they are non-unique
  • So very different mods as you can see, and I'm pretty confident the common denominator is non-unique NPCs, which seem to be flushed over time, and messes up with Pahe/Dom slave lists. The beauty, for sure, is that gameplay wise nothing breaks 🎊 but a short word of warning about which actors to enslave (unique) would be helpful
Posted
1 hour ago, Fraying9981 said:

when orgasm is set to separate (not legacy, which is the default), then slave orgasms in SL sense. Reading @DieHans's message I realize there was a DOM system I never saw because I always used P+.

what does in the SL sense mean? does it mean that sometimes the DoM "slave orgasmed"-message pops up and the orgasm counter of that slave goes plus one? in that case i have to futher investigate that option.

 

as far as I understand in the DoM sense player always orgasms at event and slaves sometimes controlled by internal values. In SL-both will orgams at the event (that is the definition of the event). ofcause other mods like SL aroused also listens for the SL events. not the dom events causing some inconsistencies. i never understood how dom handels these internally.

Posted
17 minutes ago, DieHans said:

what does in the SL sense mean? does it mean that sometimes the DoM "slave orgasmed"-message pops up and the orgasm counter of that slave goes plus one? in that case i have to futher investigate that option.

 

as far as I understand in the DoM sense player always orgasms at event and slaves sometimes controlled by internal values. In SL-both will orgams at the event (that is the definition of the event). ofcause other mods like SL aroused also listens for the SL events. not the dom events causing some inconsistencies. i never understood how dom handels these internally.

 

i meant in the sexlab sense of orgasm = the enjoyment bar is full, orgasm is complete.

I'm not referring to DOM orgasm which until your message I had absolutely no idea it existed.

Posted
1 minute ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

I'm not referring to DOM orgasm which until your message I had absolutely no idea it existed.

no wonder i've read that p+ works fine now... the p+ part always worked fine that was never a problem (at least in most p+ versions 😅). its more some events are not recognized as they should leading to missing functionality and probably some indirect bugs after playing a while. 

 

The thing with the tags sounds interesting tho. for my test npc i added all virginity factions via ssedit to the npc (maybe thats the problem). and not one animation removed one of them. you can reconize virginity loss by a lot of mechanics being able to praise the slave for it. and the windows in the info wheel. the slave feels like a virgin during inspection. also the slave begging you constantly to take it. if your slave says "please master fuck me in the ass. i have never..." while fucked in the ass, something is probably wrong. thought beeing able to speak while having oral sex is a completely different kind if bug xD

Posted

@TrollAutokill I believe I referenced this to another person months ago, I was wondering I there something in you mods that changes the relationship ranks? Why I ask is that with the mod Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim, one of the skills/abilities is called blood bond, it happen once you get that ability and enables the one bite can be married/come on on as a follower and they normally will keep the rank as lover/in love, with the slaves, the rank is always reset after a short time, a few days in game, is there anything you could do to work that in to your mod, something like if the rank starts to change the slave will develop a kink to be bit/blood drain, something like they will come to and request to be bit.

Posted

Hi i have a question about the mines in HSH. i have not started the quest, as i wanted to wait until the mod is updated for DOM stuff, more so then it already is. Is there a way i can use the mines without doing the quest because using the quest line is optional choice prevents me from doing the quest in the future and it cant be turned off again, and the mines dont see to work if i do this. 

Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, tonitrulupus said:

@TrollAutokill I believe I referenced this to another person months ago, I was wondering I there something in you mods that changes the relationship ranks? Why I ask is that with the mod Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim, one of the skills/abilities is called blood bond, it happen once you get that ability and enables the one bite can be married/come on on as a follower and they normally will keep the rank as lover/in love, with the slaves, the rank is always reset after a short time, a few days in game, is there anything you could do to work that in to your mod, something like if the rank starts to change the slave will develop a kink to be bit/blood drain, something like they will come to and request to be bit.

Yes relationship ranks are changed with the mood. When a loving NPC becomes a slave there is a huge chance this feeling will decay and another one needs to grow.

 

What you need is a patch so your bite will act like a love potion. I will see what I can do.

Edited by TrollAutokill

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