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2 hours ago, mikewest123x said:

Thank you for your help, after a bit of work after your tip, i managed to find the psc files for every mod needed.

 

but one more quick question for anyone who might know, what psc files contains PAH_gender and Checkgender, i have i believe everything but still getting compiling error saying those funtions/properties don't exist, i assumed these were pah and sexlab things but i have all those source files. But thought i would just ask before i start digging through the scripts trying to follow a bread crumb trail.

 

for the exact error

CheckGender is not a function or does not exist

PAH_gender is not a property on script pahcore or one of its parents

 

You might also need the scripts from the PAHE sexlab extension, keep in mind they are in a BSA archive and need to be extracted.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, bnub345 said:

 

You might also need the scripts from the PAHE sexlab extension, keep in mind they are in a BSA archive and need to be extracted.

That was it, Thanks for the help, It would have probably taken me an embarrassingly long time to figure that one out. Funny enough i already extracted those pscs but i put them into source/scripts because last time i did anything like this was LE, not learning until a bit later the path was changed for SE/VR and just forgot to move them over.

 

EDIT:

"- MCM options to change poses when in posing behavior"

Does this mean when the next update is working for SE/VR i will be able to mess around with the GSposes directly in the MCM?

Edited by mikewest123x
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, mikewest123x said:

That was it, Thanks for the help, It would have probably taken me an embarrassingly long time to figure that one out. Funny enough i already extracted those pscs but i put them into source/scripts because last time i did anything like this was LE, not learning until a bit later the path was changed for SE/VR and just forgot to move them over.

 

EDIT:

"- MCM options to change poses when in posing behavior"

Does this mean when the next update is working for SE/VR

Sorry that was a typo, it was supposed to read "SE only". Sorry LE users, sorry @Gräfin Zeppelinoo

 

1 hour ago, mikewest123x said:

i will be able to mess around with the GSposes directly in the MCM?

Yes just write in the pose name and next tick update the slave will use the new pose.

 

You also have two new spells "pose for me" and "pose for me again" for which you can set the pose in the MCM (defaults are idle reset). They are mostly for debugging and don't actually change the pose, they just send the animation event once to the actor.

Edited by TrollAutokill
Posted (edited)

Hello!

I am playing with Immersive UI and so the HUD is turned off most of the time.

I noticed that this mod displays some rather important information in blue font, but that is also invisible with the turned off HUD.

 

I really would like an option to have these information show as normal messages additionally, which appear in the screen corner. Can that be done, please, dearest modder? :)

Or does that already in exist in the newest version?

 

Thank you in advance for a reply!

Edited by effrenatus
Posted (edited)
57 minutes ago, effrenatus said:

Hello!

I am playing with Immersive UI and so the HUD is turned off most of the time.

I noticed that this mod displays some rather important information in blue font, but that is also invisible with the turned off HUD.

 

I really would like an option to have these information show as normal messages additionally, which appear in the screen corner. Can that be done, please, dearest modder? :)

Or does that already in exist in the newest version?

 

Thank you in advance for a reply!

I believe there is a check for "widget" somewhere in MCM, turn that off and it will display as normal messages.

Edited by mikewest123x
Posted

I'm loving all the new bondage options, but a few in the dialogue options just list them as Pose #.

Also the Tie to Cross option, when you untie the slave, the cross will remain still interactable (in which nearby NPCs will get themselves stuck in)

A v3 bug I totally forgot to mention (no idea if it still happens in the v4 beta versions) is if a Slave is set to maid duty and there is a zaz device in the same cell, the slave will eventually get stuck in it (there was also a special widget message when it happened too) and you have to untie them from it.

 

The "I'm going to be nice to you" having sex dialogues will act aggressive (like punishment or Sexlab/SLSO treating it as rape) even if the slave is fine with it.

 

Not sure if these should be mentioned since its a beta and all and many compatibility things need to be made for them. But here's how things worked trying the other PAH mod family mods from the previous v4.04 version.

These were tested with the latest versions with their DoM Patches not installed

 

 Even though Brothel dialogues appear on DoM slaves, they will refuse to do them regardless of their training. They have no problem doing brothel or turning tricks at inns when transferred back to PAH.

Unfortunately the disappearing name bug from Sex Slaves in DoM also happens to AYGAS slaves in the prostitution system as well. So far I haven't had name loss in HSH or regular PAH (and this is with the current PAH-Sex Slaves compatibility patch)

Even though you can't sell a DoM slave yet. Attempting to sell a slave to someone in AYGAS on PAH is now quick and reliable now that DoM is out of the picture, however the sell price of any slave is always at 0. Although I haven't tested the Restless Hunter auctions in the 4.0 betas, I'm going to assume the prices are a mess as well

HSH training is not progressing at all. I can wait a day, get messages that a slave is done training, yet no stats have increased at all.

I have no idea if this is related to it but the DoM MCM NPC training speed will always be 1/100th of what I set it to after leaving the MCM

 

On the bright side, I found a fix for the SlaveTats issue on transferred Sucubuss Slaves. Using the reclone option from PAH will fix it along with displaying the Tattoos that was supposed to be displayed on the original slave (They lose the status they were in the Sucubus Slave system but meh whatever). RapeTats is also working for me as well (I'm guessing it was an issue with an older version of PAH)

Kind of pondering if I should get Tat additions so that rape training should either pretty them up or objectifying them as sex slaves. (Wonder if this should be a DoM feature too)

Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

I'm loving all the new bondage options, but a few in the dialogue options just list them as Pose #.

Also the Tie to Cross option, when you untie the slave, the cross will remain still interactable (in which nearby NPCs will get themselves stuck in)

WIP

17 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

A v3 bug I totally forgot to mention (no idea if it still happens in the v4 beta versions) is if a Slave is set to maid duty and there is a zaz device in the same cell, the slave will eventually get stuck in it (there was also a special widget message when it happened too) and you have to untie them from it.

That's a problem with sandboxing, I believe. I could put a check in OnSit to forbid cleaning slaves to use bondage furniture, but they would also not be able to follow such orders from the player.

 

17 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

The "I'm going to be nice to you" having sex dialogues will act aggressive (like punishment or Sexlab/SLSO treating it as rape) even if the slave is fine with it.

Are you sure you don't have the PAH always aggressive flag on?

 

17 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

Not sure if these should be mentioned since its a beta and all and many compatibility things need to be made for them. But here's how things worked trying the other PAH mod family mods from the previous v4.04 version.

These were tested with the latest versions with their DoM Patches not installed

 

 Even though Brothel dialogues appear on DoM slaves, they will refuse to do them regardless of their training. They have no problem doing brothel or turning tricks at inns when transferred back to PAH.

That's expected. We will need a patch, later.

 

17 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

Unfortunately the disappearing name bug from Sex Slaves in DoM also happens to AYGAS slaves in the prostitution system as well. So far I haven't had name loss in HSH or regular PAH (and this is with the current PAH-Sex Slaves compatibility patch)

Screenshots would help to understand the problem. Also does it happen immediately or after sometimes? Which mod is the prostitution system?

 

17 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

Even though you can't sell a DoM slave yet. Attempting to sell a slave to someone in AYGAS on PAH is now quick and reliable now that DoM is out of the picture, however the sell price of any slave is always at 0.

Turn DoM off, reinstall AYGAS and try a again with a new slave to see if the problem is on the AYGAS side.

 

17 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

Although I haven't tested the Restless Hunter auctions in the 4.0 betas, I'm going to assume the prices are a mess as well

HSH training is not progressing at all. I can wait a day, get messages that a slave is done training, yet no stats have increased at all.

This and the problem above sounds like AYGAS/HSH patches for DoM where installed. Maybe wait for next version from @Musjeyit will ignore DoM4.

 

17 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

I have no idea if this is related to it but the DoM MCM NPC training speed will always be 1/100th of what I set it to after leaving the MCM

Could be just a display problem. Will check.

 

17 minutes ago, McLovin3 said:

 

On the bright side, I found a fix for the SlaveTats issue on transferred Sucubuss Slaves. Using the reclone option from PAH will fix it along with displaying the Tattoos that was supposed to be displayed on the original slave (They lose the status they were in the Sucubus Slave system but meh whatever). RapeTats is also working for me as well (I'm guessing it was an issue with an older version of PAH)

Kind of pondering if I should get Tat additions so that rape training should either pretty them up or objectifying them as sex slaves. (Wonder if this should be a DoM feature too)

You could also try apropos2 for more contextual tats.

 

Edited by TrollAutokill
Posted (edited)

Can't remember if i had PAH aggressive sex on. I saw it more of an issue because Comfort sex from shocked slaves never had this problem with me.

 

The Prostitution system was from AYGAS were once unlocked you can tell a slave to work at the cell you picked that dialogue (brothels let you do it at your owned cells and they make more compared to leaving them turning tricks at inns). AGYAS's MCM has a slave list just like PAH/DoM but without the renaming function.

The problem with this nasty bug is just like the original PAH bug is it feels like it happens at complete random, I can look away from a slave for a split second regardless on what i did or did not do to him/her and their name will be gone. But the common scenario is cell changes.

It won't be easy trying to take pictures of this of both instances of DoM and AYGAS next time I encounter this.

 

I was originally thinking maybe that old NPC wealth modifier in the DoM Debug MCM setting or something else may be messing with AYGAS and HSH even though i did not have their DoM patches checked.

But I guess I'll just have to fiddle turning off DoM and even Sex Slaves over the next week with playthroughs and see whats up and let you and Musje know if needed.

 

It was a long time since I played with Apropos, The problems I had was it only worked on Uniques (so no cloned PAH slaves), the tattoos were more wear and tear, but I was able to fiddle with it a bit to make them more Dirt like, and it messed with my game and papyrus log, and added some nasty script lag. All I believe someone made a patch for recently

Edited by McLovin3
Posted

Damn. You really made these slaves complex.

A story of Bandit(f) and Forsworn(m). Not beta.

 

First there was Bandit. She's one of those easy personalities. Before long she was head over heels for me with stockholm love. Once we got there we had a great time. She's always horny, she's a decent fighter, she'll do whatever I want her to do. I had all her trust. I made her happy.

 

Then came Forsworn. I decided to expand the roster. This was a horrible mistake. This guy. Don't even get me started. Almost unbreakable. Worst personality ever. I beat him black and blue, insulted him constantly. Of course, praised him when he eventually did something right. I really had to ride this guy, long and hard.

 

The worst part tho, is that he broke Bandit. Because she absolutely hates his guts. I spent so much time training Forsworn without really paying attention to Bandit. She has lost the will to live. She went from "You have all my trust. You make me happy" to "I am deeply Jealous. I have no will to live".

 

Congratulations. You're really built something special here. But also damn you, how could you let this happen to my sweet Bandit. I have to fix her now.

Posted
57 minutes ago, Ghostman7nz said:

just got beck to playing and spotted a dialog oops in 4.0.5b, the undress now dialogue only appears for non slaves and won't appear for slaves.

It was moved to top dialogue. I forgot to put the check on slave faction so you might have it on all NPCs, yes.

 

But it should be there for slaves too, maybe down the list since CK won't let me set the dialogue priority.

Posted (edited)

I looked all over and still don't see the undress now on slaves, Also noticed that the redress option in the wheel menu always returns the notice that the slave agrees but doesn't have clothes even when they have multiple. the dialogue option to redress does appear to work.

 

another thing when trying to interact with the slaves using dialogue they will have a back log of general complaint responses from using the wheel menus so you have to activate the slaves multiple times before the dialogue will trigger. Don't know if there is a way to force the dialogue to trigger after the complaint line is spoken by the slave. A workaround is to activate them a second time before the first complaint response finishes and that will allow the dialogue menu to activate.

 

When capturing a slave their inventory is duplicated and occasionally will triplicate during the capture process. 

one more thing to note When a slave dies from random world events, like a spike wall trap, they lose all of the items given to them and their inventory is filled with random low level items.

 

Wanted to note also this is on a new fresh start game

Edited by Ghostman7nz
Posted
42 minutes ago, Ghostman7nz said:

Something I forgot to post, there are several options in the MCM menu that a showing $ prepended to the name. I'm guessing that is caused by a formatting error.

That's because the language files were updated but not the script. So the script is looking for the wrong string. This will je fixed next update.

Posted
2 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

That's because the language files were updated but not the script. So the script is looking for the wrong string. This will je fixed next update.

I'm glad it's an easy fix.

 

Another bug to note, any time a slave is set to fight for you and they enter an attention pose while their weapon is drawn their weapon gets stuck and they will enter combat but never actually attack they just run up and stand in front of the mobs doing their absolute best to get directly between me and the thing I am trying to magick to death. I'm going to venture a guess and say that them entering any pose while their weapons are drawn will cause this.

Posted

I have a suggestion regarding the drawn weapon issue. I think it would be beneficial to set the slaves to draw their weapons when the player enters an in combat state rather than when the player has their weapons drawn. This would at least in some part limit the drawn weapon in pose bug but also prevent the slaves from drawing their weapons while they are being punished.

Posted

MCM
- typo "trining speed for slavers"

 

wheel:
- slave stopped posing, covered self, cowered: no punishment's option generated in wheel
   - whipping slave generated message with reason (so the reason was recorded) 
   - "slave minded own business" and option was presented with three options present (race condition?)
- chock, public: failed to animate or remove reason

- can't be sure what caused it, but the slave shot up in the air when drunk animation was running
  -following this  the slave was free and required an adduction 
- clothing>be naked : removed gag (binding remained)
- punish>pain : bond slave stood (still wearing chains) before whipping
   - wheel> tied : was presented as an option, attempting it had the slave knee for a second then resume standing

 

dialog:
- you appear to be in bind appears twice 

 

mics:

- abduction ends with slave standing, prefers cowering

- it would be nice if slave's expression changed to fear just as they understand they will be punished (ie just before rape/chock/public animation or whipping starts)

Posted
14 hours ago, Ultima1990 said:

Damn. You really made these slaves complex.

A story of Bandit(f) and Forsworn(m). Not beta.

 

First there was Bandit. She's one of those easy personalities. Before long she was head over heels for me with stockholm love. Once we got there we had a great time. She's always horny, she's a decent fighter, she'll do whatever I want her to do. I had all her trust. I made her happy.

 

Then came Forsworn. I decided to expand the roster. This was a horrible mistake. This guy. Don't even get me started. Almost unbreakable. Worst personality ever. I beat him black and blue, insulted him constantly. Of course, praised him when he eventually did something right. I really had to ride this guy, long and hard.

 

The worst part tho, is that he broke Bandit. Because she absolutely hates his guts. I spent so much time training Forsworn without really paying attention to Bandit. She has lost the will to live. She went from "You have all my trust. You make me happy" to "I am deeply Jealous. I have no will to live".

 

Congratulations. You're really built something special here. But also damn you, how could you let this happen to my sweet Bandit. I have to fix her now.

Great story. I am a sucker for screenshots though! (with spoilers)

Posted

So i dont know what is going on but i dont have all of the dialog for diary of mine. like once i capture the slaves i thought that for version 4 there would be the option to ask how are you feeling slave but its not there. So i downgraded to version 3 to see if it would work but still doesnt show up. everything else shows up but not that. so what else can i do? 

Posted
3 hours ago, RuthlessOutlaw said:

So i dont know what is going on but i dont have all of the dialog for diary of mine. like once i capture the slaves i thought that for version 4 there would be the option to ask how are you feeling slave but its not there. So i downgraded to version 3 to see if it would work but still doesnt show up. everything else shows up but not that. so what else can i do? 

Did you try a fresh game? Are you on LE or SE?

Posted

The dialogue option to tie slave to a cross, the cross appears but the slave never gets tied to it and the cross never despawns after the slave is released. Personally I would prefer being able to place the cross and then tie the slave to it. This way we would have more control of the placement and direction of the cross, but I understand if that would be too much work.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Ghostman7nz said:

The dialogue option to tie slave to a cross, the cross appears but the slave never gets tied to it and the cross never despawns after the slave is released. Personally I would prefer being able to place the cross and then tie the slave to it. This way we would have more control of the placement and direction of the cross, but I understand if that would be too much work.

This dialogue is WIP. It will work like the chains with a Zaz pose including a cross, it will not use already existing furnitures, and the furniture will disappear when the pose is over.

 

The method you are describing already exists. Use Zap to put the cross where you like, then ask the slave to do you a favor. That would place the actor in favor mode, and you tell them to use the cross by selecting the cross. When sitting on the cross the slave will be put in restrained behavior.

 

Edited by TrollAutokill
Posted
On 1/15/2023 at 9:01 AM, Good Provider said:

MCM
- typo "trining speed for slavers"

Fixed.

On 1/15/2023 at 9:01 AM, Good Provider said:

 

wheel:
- slave stopped posing, covered self, cowered: no punishment's option generated in wheel
   - whipping slave generated message with reason (so the reason was recorded) 
   - "slave minded own business" and option was presented with three options present (race condition?)
- chock, public: failed to animate or remove reason

Will check.

On 1/15/2023 at 9:01 AM, Good Provider said:

- can't be sure what caused it, but the slave shot up in the air when drunk animation was running

Your slave tripped and fell. Some very clumsy slaves might attempt to fly and sometimes in a very unrealistic way.

 

On 1/15/2023 at 9:01 AM, Good Provider said:

 


  -following this  the slave was free and required an adduction 

If the slave was shot far enough from the player, that's expected.

 

On 1/15/2023 at 9:01 AM, Good Provider said:


- clothing>be naked : removed gag (binding remained)

Should be fixed next version.

 

On 1/15/2023 at 9:01 AM, Good Provider said:


- punish>pain : bond slave stood (still wearing chains) before whipping
   - wheel> tied : was presented as an option, attempting it had the slave knee for a second then resume standing

Will check.

 

On 1/15/2023 at 9:01 AM, Good Provider said:

 

dialog:
- you appear to be in bind appears twice 

This is Zaz dialogue. No idea why it appears twice. Try on a HSH/PAHE slave to see if you have it twice too.

 

On 1/15/2023 at 9:01 AM, Good Provider said:

 

mics:

- abduction ends with slave standing, prefers cowering

Should be cowering if using the perk with the activate key. Should be end of animation if using abduction key.

 

On 1/15/2023 at 9:01 AM, Good Provider said:

- it would be nice if slave's expression changed to fear just as they understand they will be punished (ie just before rape/chock/public animation or whipping starts)

On todo list.

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