[WIP]Mermaids

[sora_akira24]

After the land animations, what's left?

[firepower02]

Kiki will only make land animations, ie walking, running, etc. The attack animations she said she won't make because it's too complicated. So after land animations, that's what's left. If you want collision detection for the tail, so it won't clip on land, that's another what's left.

[Suludi]

Btw, can't we utilize the Flame Atronach animations somehow?

[firepower02]

What exactly do you mean?

[NeverwinterKnight]

What exactly do you mean?

I believe she means, give merfolk the ability to levitate/hover in combat. (Not saying to actually make them fly, but just lift them off the ground.) In that case, there are actually a couple of AO's* that make the player levitate, and includes combat animations. In my opinion, this would be the best way to handle combat, because it would not restrict movement speed and fluidity (assuming the new land animations demand slower movement speed).

 

Hover Animation

Hovering Magic Animations

 

I do not recommend using the sneak animations, as they are the least compatible with merfolk.

 

*AO means Animation Override. It's a term I got use to from Second Life.

[Suludi]

Yes, I'm talking about the hovering and throwing fireballs (water magic in our case) animations. They look very elegant and perfectly usable for a floating mermaid. I'll be looking into it.

[firepower02]

Hi ostrichbanana, can you please help us find someone who knows how to work with hdt and collisions? We want to add it to the tailfin since it is very prone to clipping, underwater it also clips when close to the ocean floor.

 

 

Daiemonic, who made working vagina, sure knows what he's doing.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27122-working-vagina-hdt-collisions-hair-physics-now-with-belly-support/

[weedweedsocks333]

Did you ask the vagina guy? I could ask him if you want

[firepower02]

Please ask him.

[Feendra13]

Those are really nice concepts.  how about this kind of guppy? Minus the dorsal fin, just the tail and body, and make the body color blue, not white

 

 

 

 

 

 

sorry, but I'm in the process of moving right now, so i don't think I'll be able to get to it

[Mshai]

You guys are working on this mod again? How awesome is that! Keep up the good work, and yeah, as others have said work on the basics first then upgrade it in later versions! 

[weedweedsocks333]

Mkay asked him

[firepower02]

The idle animation is lifted off the ground to avoid clipping. If you look from above, it's not so obvious it's lifted. We hope to have collision detection fix ground clipping.

 

[firepower02]

Mermaid waiting in Lakerise island.

 

 

(click image to enlarge)

[firepower02]

 

mermaid crawls back to water (move forward animation)

 

 

 

mermaid rolls back to water (move sideways animation)

[KikiDelivery]

Cool preview firepower, I would just like to note that moving uphill works fine, though when the mermaid stops and returns to the idle pose on a slopey surface, the mermaid appears buried on the ground.

 

I hope we find a solution for this.

 

Anyway, here's some more screenies.

[NeverwinterKnight]

Moving uphill works fine, though when the mermaid reverts to the idle pose, it appears buried.

 

Anyway, here's some more screenies.

Absolutely beautiful, Kiki! Seeing these screenshots fills me with renewed hope for this mod!

[weedweedsocks333]

Wow that tail is really beautiful

[firepower02]

If you made going uphill right, could you make idle on an uphill look right using the same method?

[firepower02]

Going uphill, the mermaid gets buried, going downhill, she would appear floating. But there's not much we can do at the moment.

 

[KikiDelivery]

Thanks guys, lol I just realized my mesh was looking dull and dark, apparently I forgot to do face normals and update tangent space in Nifskope. I kinda like the result.

 

 

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I'm not really sure what causes it to behave like that, I've made a lot of adjustments as I could in the animations but none of them seems to fix it. I think it has something to with the foot bones' dynamic positioning.

 

If you have your mermaid face sideways when on a slope, there's rarely any clipping going on.

Also I just noticed now it looks more natural if the mermaid goes downhill via sideways movement (rolling).

 

[weedweedsocks333]

Hey a suggestion, what about giving the tail a fading look? Like this  (Btw it looks great, i know already said that but you know)

 

 

woa big picture

 

 

[KikiDelivery]

I agree with you, I like the idea of the mermaid tail seamless merging with the upperbody

Unfortunately, I'm not really good with texturing, especially when it comes to natural skin,

[firepower02]

Don't worry kiki, we'll find a good texture artist, you just worry about the mesh and animations.

It seems that the knees part of the tail is where the lowest point that would meet the ground. Whichever way the mermaid goes either up or down, the knees is the one closest to the ground.

[Halstrom]

Don't worry kiki, we'll find a good texture artist, you just worry about the mesh and animations.

It seems that the knees part of the tail is where the lowest point that would meet the ground. Whichever way the mermaid goes either up or down, the knees is the one closest to the ground.

In my experience if you get mesh and animations done and just release it with averagey textures, someone skilled will get interested