stellaris [mod] Family Oriented [4.1 Shadows of the Shroud Update]

[Reignlief]

would love a way to stop the AI always picking inbreeding, I always love the idea of my empire being the only one but ususaly its 99% of the galaxy.

[dragondxlv]

4 hours ago, Reignlief said:

would love a way to stop the AI always picking inbreeding, I always love the idea of my empire being the only one but ususaly its 99% of the galaxy.

Doesn't seem like it's super common, out of 12 empires only 2 have inbreeding in my current game. I'll adjust the values a bit lower just in case.

[Prime Nexus]

IDK whats going on but all my pops have a %2000000 pop growth increase from Incestuous Interest. Is is just me?

 

 

Edited May 27, 2025 by Prime Nexus

[dragondxlv]

1 hour ago, Prime Nexus said:

IDK whats going on but all my pops have a %2000000 pop growth increase from Incestuous Interest. Is is just me?

 

 

Huh... That shouldn't be... On my end i'm only at 8k pops in this new run and obviously i'm capped at 20%. Wonder what's happening on your end.

[thryllth]

Just wanted to say, thanks for putting in the effort to not just get this functional in 4.0, but putting in the effort to make it balanced.

[dragondxlv]

2 hours ago, thryllth said:

Just wanted to say, thanks for putting in the effort to not just get this functional in 4.0, but putting in the effort to make it balanced.

 

I'm glad someone mentioned balance 😁 for once. I know its not the most important thing since most people play with LV (which can be op) and this mod, but I've always had vanilla balance in mind since I play with this mod personally in a Vanilla+ load order without LV and I didn't want to steamroll the already abysmal 4.0 AI.

 

An incest empire will still lose to a virtual empire for example in terms of effective numbers. But you'll still be able to put up a proper fight against grand admiral Ai with a incest focused empire.

 

Any other mods aren't taken into account when it comes to these numbers though like if you juiced up your AI empires with a mod.

Edited May 29, 2025 by dragondxlv

[NSFWmon]

Is there a discord server for Family Oriented to stay up to date with the mod, and to ask for any assistance?

[NoGround]

Yeah the balance on this mod is great. 4.0 is so busted atm anyway that main thing that makes LV OP is Milking. Ignore milking and LV isn't too crazy compared to some of the other meta builds. 

 

Lithia has mentioned that they're working on a real 4.0 overhaul for LV anyway. A lot of the old systems clash with Vanilla even more so than 3.14 so I'm just as ready for that as I am for Paradox to actually finish 4.0 lmao. 

 

Family Oriented is a good example to draw from for other authors, so props to @dragondxlv! 

[dragondxlv]

9 hours ago, NSFWmon said:

Is there a discord server for Family Oriented to stay up to date with the mod, and to ask for any assistance?

So far, either through here or through the LV discord, on the Family Oriented section in links. If enough people seem interested, I may make a dedicated server for this mod.

In any case, did you run into any issues with the mod?

 

8 hours ago, NoGround said:

Yeah the balance on this mod is great. 4.0 is so busted atm anyway that main thing that makes LV OP is Milking. Ignore milking and LV isn't too crazy compared to some of the other meta builds. 

 

Lithia has mentioned that they're working on a real 4.0 overhaul for LV anyway. A lot of the old systems clash with Vanilla even more so than 3.14 so I'm just as ready for that as I am for Paradox to actually finish 4.0 lmao. 

 

Family Oriented is a good example to draw from for other authors, so props to @dragondxlv! 

 

🙏Thank you! For 4.0, it really is kind of funny how the economy has just become inflated that my mod can be considered balance. Regardless, feel free to suggest anything else that you think is too strong or too weak.

[NSFWmon]

On 5/30/2025 at 11:28 PM, dragondxlv said:

So far, either through here or through the LV discord, on the Family Oriented section in links. If enough people seem interested, I may make a dedicated server for this mod.

In any case, did you run into any issues with the mod?

 

 

🙏Thank you! For 4.0, it really is kind of funny how the economy has just become inflated that my mod can be considered balance. Regardless, feel free to suggest anything else that you think is too strong or too weak.

No, I just wanted to stay somewhere where I can be with other mod users, especially with this one being one of the bigger mods in my mod pack. Thank you.

[julzor]

The holy family and the pureblood dynasty civics are broken. The leaders don't get the traits like family oriented and holy bloodline.

[dragondxlv]

15 hours ago, julzor said:

The holy family and the pureblood dynasty civics are broken. The leaders don't get the traits like family oriented and holy bloodline.

I've been made aware of the issue, latest Stellaris patch 4.0.15 broke them. Working on a fix rn

[uRude]

I get 5 empty event popups everyday

FO_lv_startup.22
FO_lv_pregnancy.1005
FO_lv_origin_setup_events.8
FO_lv_origin_setup_events.10
FO_lv_heir_events.1000

in that order
using v4.0.10

I literally just commented out all those event calls just to make the game playable again but I'm sure I must've broken something 😅 

Edited June 14, 2025 by uRude

[dragondxlv]

10 hours ago, uRude said:

I get 5 empty event popups everyday

FO_lv_startup.22
FO_lv_pregnancy.1005
FO_lv_origin_setup_events.8
FO_lv_origin_setup_events.10
FO_lv_heir_events.1000

in that order
using v4.0.10

I literally just commented out all those event calls just to make the game playable again but I'm sure I must've broken something 😅 

 

Latest Mod updates are built for the latest Stellaris patch and thus if you're not up-to-date, you might have issues. 4.0.17 if i recall broke leader trait modding and thus fixed with the latest version of the mod. Please update your Stellaris.

[FeverTheHeretic]

On 6/8/2025 at 6:00 AM, dragondxlv said:

I've been made aware of the issue, latest Stellaris patch 4.0.15 broke them. Working on a fix rn

 

I take it this is still the route cause for FO_lv_incest_adoption.3 empty window that continues to populate every day? Or is that separate issue unless 4.0.21 has broken it again? 

[dragondxlv]

3 hours ago, FeverTheHeretic said:

 

I take it this is still the route cause for FO_lv_incest_adoption.3 empty window that continues to populate every day? Or is that separate issue unless 4.0.21 has broken it again? 

Incest adoption events are disabled in the latest version of the mod. If you have installed this mod before and updated it by overwriting, then you will have files that should not be there.

If that is what happened, please delete your current version of my mod completely and then unzip the latest version of my mod in your Stellaris/mod folder.

[Zvizer002]

There seems to be a longstanding bug in my playthroughs, and this mod is most likely the probable cause.

When the new child leader gets promoted to an adult, in case of their species not existing (my exact case is getting the psionic ascension, and my own species getting an unmodifiable trait), they generate a new species variant that has 0 pops and is undeleteable, and will not go through any assimilation/integration to remove itself. The newly generated leader also is missing the Psionic trait as well.

This can be fixed by manually adding the trait with the console, and adding 1 pop to a planet + setting the species rights to integrate to main species. This gives the correct trait to the leader, but still doesn't resolve the existing 0 pop variant.


Can you also look into "Speak to your current heir" missing from edicts bug? Sometimes i get it and sometimes i don't. I resolve this issue myself by removing `FO_lv_edicts` -> `heir_comms` -> `potential` -> `any_owned_leader` condition. I also get a broken screen for the portait of the leader as a result, but at least i can open the edict. 

Upon the "Trouble at work" event, as it also uses the default leader portait, it also has a missing graphic in this case.

Is there any way to fix these? (Using latest version at this moment 17.06.2025-04:29)

Edited June 19, 2025 by Zvizer002

[dragondxlv]

3 hours ago, Zvizer002 said:

There seems to be a longstanding bug in my playthroughs, and this mod is most likely the probable cause.

When the new child leader gets promoted to an adult, in case of their species not existing (my exact case is getting the psionic ascension, and my own species getting an unmodifiable trait), they generate a new species variant that has 0 pops and is undeleteable, and will not go through any assimilation/integration to remove itself. The newly generated leader also is missing the Psionic trait as well.

This can be fixed by manually adding the trait with the console, and adding 1 pop to a planet + setting the species rights to integrate to main species. This gives the correct trait to the leader, but still doesn't resolve the existing 0 pop variant.


Can you also look into "Speak to your current heir" missing from edicts bug? Sometimes i get it and sometimes i don't. I resolve this issue myself by removing `FO_lv_edicts` -> `heir_comms` -> `potential` -> `any_owned_leader` condition. I also get a broken screen for the portait of the leader as a result, but at least i can open the edict. 

Upon the "Trouble at work" event, as it also uses the default leader portait, it also has a missing graphic in this case.

Is there any way to fix these? (Using latest version at this moment 17.06.2025-04:29)

Most likely or confirmed? Because I've never encountered any bug that makes a new species. This mod currently doesn't add any traits to species through events, only leaders.

I'll ask that you disable all your mods except for this mod and UI overhaul if you have it and see if those problems persist. And if you've used this mod before and updated by overwriting the old mod, please delete the mod and reinstall it cleanly.

As for the other issues, I'll look into them and see if I can encounter them.

[Zvizer002]

6 hours ago, dragondxlv said:

Most likely or confirmed? Because I've never encountered any bug that makes a new species. This mod currently doesn't add any traits to species through events, only leaders.

I'll ask that you disable all your mods except for this mod and UI overhaul if you have it and see if those problems persist. And if you've used this mod before and updated by overwriting the old mod, please delete the mod and reinstall it cleanly.

As for the other issues, I'll look into them and see if I can encounter them.

Testing with LV + FO only mods. 

- New Empire, Holy Family civic Imperial goverment
- Gave myself 10M unity at start with cheats
- Waited a bit so that a heir gets selected
- Created an heir with debug menu
- Waited so that the heir is born successfully
- Selected random traditions to get Mind over Matter perk
- Used console to `research_technology tech_psionic_theory`
- Selected Psionic Tradition
- Observed that the species issue has happened

 

 

Here is a screenshot in case you think "Pics or it didn't happen!"

[dragondxlv]

3 hours ago, Zvizer002 said:

Testing with LV + FO only mods. 

- New Empire, Holy Family civic Imperial goverment
- Gave myself 10M unity at start with cheats
- Waited a bit so that a heir gets selected
- Created an heir with debug menu
- Waited so that the heir is born successfully
- Selected random traditions to get Mind over Matter perk
- Used console to `research_technology tech_psionic_theory`
- Selected Psionic Tradition
- Observed that the species issue has happened

 

 

Here is a screenshot in case you think "Pics or it didn't happen!"

 

Thank you, the pics do help and very excellent documentation.

 

So now that I know what im seeing, I should tell you that what youre seeing is NOT a bug, but a vanilla stellaris 4.0 thing. You will always have the template of your original species at game start after you genemod/they gain traits through events. That's with any empire and even without mods as far as I can tell.

 

I believe its just so you can reassimilate to your original species if you dont have genetic ascension since you cant gene mod as freely without genetic ascension.

 

As far as the leader with the childhood development triat, that's how it should be working at the moment. Im still expanding upon the system.

Edited June 20, 2025 by dragondxlv

[XZIZ]

thank you for the update !

[A_guy_with_the_plan]

can you set it where LV traits are earned only after 18? i kinda want offsprings to atleast be as good as normal rolled leaders with LV traits

[dragondxlv]

18 hours ago, A_guy_with_the_plan said:

can you set it where LV traits are earned only after 18? i kinda want offsprings to atleast be as good as normal rolled leaders with LV traits

I'd rather not risk anything being misinterpreted by doing so. But if you'd like to make those changes yourself it's fairly simple if you just look at the inline_scripts.

[A_guy_with_the_plan]

2 hours ago, dragondxlv said:

I'd rather not risk anything being misinterpreted by doing so. But if you'd like to make those changes yourself it's fairly simple if you just look at the inline_scripts.

ill take a look at it this upcoming weekend any suggestions. im not the best when it comes to modding game.

[A_guy_with_the_plan]

i might do a trait at aged 18 (100%) 20 (50%) and 22 (25%)