Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[RoboLancer]

46 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

....with Alva, it's on the character itself.

 

Ok thanks.  I know how to that.

[Splintered_Lizard]

Hello! Enjoying the mod very much as usual. I have a few questions about the mod:

 

Was bought via Simple Slavery by Marcurio but I made another follower (An Argonian added by "More Argonians" mod) by master, which did work, but Marcurio says random lines that imply he is still my master. Should I maybe dismiss him to fix that?

 

Also, I recently updated to the latest version, and since then the whipping punishment scene doesn't play the actual whipping animation. Everything else works with it, it's just that both characters stand there instead of the whipping playing, then Lola falls to the ground and its business as usual. Is there some way to troubleshoot this? (Btw, I did get a whipping scene to play properly in Public Whore, so it's not that I don't have an animation working).

I also had a possible random add-on idea or two when traveling in the over-world: either owner telling Lola to bathe in a river so he can enjoy the view, or perhaps even offering to service some passing soldiers? (Not sure if it's possible to detect if one is around soldiers, or if Lola just needs to go find some).

Edit to add: Oh no., The fact you added support for vampire owners.... noooo I can't go download Astarion for Skyrim! NOOOO I must resist!

Edited September 8 by Splintered_Lizard

[Hex Bolt]

6 minutes ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

Was bought via Simple Slavery by Marcurio but I made another follower (An Argonian added by "More Argonians" mod) by master, which did work, but Marcurio says random lines that imply he is still my master.

If you used the "Make new owner" option in the MCM, you shouldn't have any problems.  With "Make new owner", remember that any tasks must be completed with the owner who assigned it to you, so possibly you have one like Tomb Raider, which has a long duration, that you have to complete with Marcurio.

 

I can't say more without knowing which lines.  Mods like Devious Followers and Sexist Guards can give followers dominant dialog.

 

12 minutes ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

I recently updated to the latest version, and since then the whipping punishment scene doesn't play the actual whipping animation.

No recent changes to whipping.  It doesn't have its own animation; the person just swings the punishment weapon.  That person (usually your owner) has to equip ZAP's punishment cane or the scene won't work.  If anything interferes with equipping a weapon, the scene won't play (SLTR does handle NFF's feature to not equip weapons outside combat, so that one is not a problem).  ZAP 9 broke whipping, if you happen to be using it (switch to ZAP 8).

 

16 minutes ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

I also had a possible random add-on idea or two when traveling in the over-world: either owner telling Lola to bathe in a river so he can enjoy the view, or perhaps even offering to service some passing soldiers?

I appreciate suggestions, so thank you.

 

Bathing just doesn't interest me (any hygiene stuff).  Bathing and pooping are real needs, but I just prefer not to bother with them in RPG adventure games.  I see wash basins and assume chamber pots, and that's enough for me.  It's hard to get interested in working on something with no appeal to me.  So, sorry about that one.

 

I have military camps on my ideas list.  Conceptually, it's fine, but I haven't come up with anything for it that's actually fun.  If you're traveling through the wilderness, you probably want to get somewhere.  Short tasks are fine.  But stopping for several minutes for sex with soldiers is just more prostitution, and at an inconvenient time.  Beyond that, most players ignore the civil war questline, so it's hard to roleplay an owner who's eager to support the troops when you've actually done little or nothing to further the cause.  Also, Imperial camps don't have women, so there's nothing for straight male or pure lesbian characters.  It's on the list, but whenever I look at it, I see a lot of downsides.

[IBAGadget]

I have a question regarding the stories - how many words do you typically make the stories?

I have an idea rattling around in my brain that I may just start to write out and send it to you for filling out another bondage book

[Hex Bolt]

34 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

I have a question regarding the stories - how many words do you typically make the stories?

4000 to 6000 characters.  The ones so far have been toward the upper half of that range, but I really don't want to exceed 6000.  I try not to go over 5500 characters.

 

34 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

I have an idea rattling around in my brain that I may just start to write out and send it to you for filling out another bondage book

Sure, but I do have to feel that it fits the desired theme and tone, which can be subjective, so if I have to turn it down or edit it, no hard feelings?

 

A story must meet the size limit, fit well into the Skyrim game, have a bondage theme, peril (some kind of danger) and a happy ending.  I've tried to be light on physical descriptions and let readers fill in the details as they like.  The owner's comments indicate a female character (not necessarily the protagonist, but an important character).  I'd wanted to be vague enough to accommodate readers with any gender preference (I came really close with a couple of the stories), but it was just too hard, and this is intended to be a minor feature of the mod, so female in bondage.

Edited September 8 by Hex Bolt

[IBAGadget]

tried to send a DM, but it wouldn't let me attach the file, so, here we are.

 

This is what I just cranked out, comes in at 3888 characters according to OpenOffice, which I wrote it up in. I tried to keep it in the vein of this mod, but I'll let you be the judge of how well I did. If it doesn't work for you, or you need to make some edits, that's fine. 

 

 

A New Beginning.txt

[Hex Bolt]

11 hours ago, IBAGadget said:

This is what I just cranked out

Thank you, this is good.  It just needs some closure at the end.  I'll message you.

[Splintered_Lizard]

23 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

No recent changes to whipping.  It doesn't have its own animation; the person just swings the punishment weapon.  That person (usually your owner) has to equip ZAP's punishment cane or the scene won't work.  If anything interferes with equipping a weapon, the scene won't play 

 

Tonight I noticed the cane does indeed equip. And maybe, mayyybeee the thing that *might* be interfering is Immersive Weapon Switch. It's the only mod I can think of that is semi-recent in my load order that has anything to do with weapons. I am going to try disabling it to see what happens.

EDIT: Test done, and still no whipping animation played, though everything else happened exactly as it should. Hmm... Also, regarding ZAP, I think I was careful to stick with ZAP 8 and have not updated as I knew there were issues with ZAP 9.

Edited September 9 by Splintered_Lizard

[Splintered_Lizard]

Making a new post because I thought of two more ideas:

 

1. What about making Lola dance in a tavern? Just for owner's pleasure or maybe for money? Though it might work best with Professional Dancer? I love this mod -- if only owner could react when Lola voluntarily dances lol.

2. Playing music? Playing instruments is popular and is possible with or without additional mods. Maybe master asks Lola to play a lute or flute sometimes?

 

The other thing I thought of, and maybe I'm missing something, is that the owner makes sure Lola isn't hiding anything and has her strip, but I'm carrying lockpicks and he doesn't seem to notice. Wouldn't this be a perfect time for confiscation, or is mine just not working? I do have allowed number of lockpicks set at zero. 

Edited September 9 by Splintered_Lizard

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

Test done, and still no whipping animation played, though everything else happened exactly as it should.

It might be another mod.  Combat, follower, or animation mods are likely suspects (I know NFF and EFF follower frameworks are safe).

 

You might try a new game with the minimal mod set needed to support SLTR.  Enter the world, console a follower to you, and submit to that follower.  Enter "set vkjTest to 1" in the console.  Select the "Master/Mistress?" topic, then "I want to test something" at the bottom, then "Whip me".  If it works, you can enable mods until it stops working.

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

What about making Lola dance in a tavern? Just for owner's pleasure or maybe for money? Though it might work best with Professional Dancer? I love this mod -- if only owner could react when Lola voluntarily dances lol.

You already have to dance for your owner, so how would dancing for others for pay cause your owner to react?  Presumably, that mod allows followers to cheer (if not, you might request that over there).  I do have an item on my list to use SLTR's dances for a tavern dancing event (that wouldn't require an extra mod).

 

3 hours ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

Playing music? Playing instruments is popular and is possible with or without additional mods. Maybe master asks Lola to play a lute or flute sometimes?

Also on the list.  However, there are at least two bard mods (which work differently), or SLTR would have to implement its own.  Since you're already rewarded for using the bard mods, I lean toward the latter and a personal performance.

 

3 hours ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

The other thing I thought of, and maybe I'm missing something, is that the owner makes sure Lola isn't hiding anything and has her strip, but I'm carrying lockpicks and he doesn't seem to notice. Wouldn't this be a perfect time for confiscation, or is mine just not working? I do have allowed number of lockpicks set at zero. 

The mod checks for lockpicks when a lockpick enters your inventory as well as when you're enslaved.  I had already added a fix for the next update that additionally checks your inventory whenever you import or change a setting for allowed lockpicks or keys, because I'd noticed that loophole in my own game (started enslavement with no limit, changed it to a limited number, and nothing happened).  I'm assuming that the fix covers your situation.

Edited September 9 by Hex Bolt

[Splintered_Lizard]

On 9/9/2026 at 3:24 AM, Hex Bolt said:

 

Also on the list.  However, there are at least two bard mods (which work differently), or SLTR would have to implement its own.  Since you're already rewarded for using the bard mods, I lean toward the latter and a personal performance.

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The mod checks for lockpicks when a lockpick enters your inventory as well as when you're enslaved.  I had already added a fix for the next update that additionally checks your inventory whenever you import or change a setting for allowed lockpicks or keys, because I'd noticed that loophole in my own game (started enslavement with no limit, changed it to a limited number, and nothing happened).  I'm assuming that the fix covers your situation.

 

1. Wait, we get rewarded for using Bard mods? How did I miss this? 😮 Should I go play in a tavern somewhere? How do I get a reaction from Lola's owner?

2. I did start enslavement with 0 lockpicks allowed and the owner did properly take them away. I wonder if switching owners later affected that? I'm not sure, but he doesn't seem to notice I'm carrying lockpicks.

Oh, and I do use NFF in regards to a Follower framework.

[Hex Bolt]

34 minutes ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

Wait, we get rewarded for using Bard mods?

You get paid.  With Become a Bard, at least, you also get free room rental, earn fame, receive gifts of enchanted items, and acquire a small persuasion boost.

 

34 minutes ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

How do I get a reaction from Lola's owner?

Followers can optionally accompany you using the chosen instrument during your performance (with Become a Bard, anyway).  SLTR's button to move your owner to you nicely positions him or her to accompany you.  Presumably, with other bard mods, they can at least applaud your performance.

 

34 minutes ago, Splintered_Lizard said:

I did start enslavement with 0 lockpicks allowed and the owner did properly take them away. I wonder if switching owners later affected that? I'm not sure, but he doesn't seem to notice I'm carrying lockpicks.

Switching owners should not have an effect, not unless you also changed your settings at that time.  If you don't lose lockpicks whenever one enters your inventory, something is not right in your game.

Edited September 10 by Hex Bolt

[ealklas]

Hi, great mod. It's really fun when having SkyrimNet play the dialogue with XTTS, although some lines get lost for some reason. Haven't figured out why perhaps a format issue.

 

One thing I'm struggling with with SexLab 1.66b it seems to me I only have the choice with the SL setting "Filter Gender Tags Animations" on, that the mistress uses a strap on with male Lola as well as male playmate and when turned off she uses it with neither. Is there any way so she only uses it with Lola? 

[Hex Bolt]

6 hours ago, ealklas said:

One thing I'm struggling with with SexLab 1.66b it seems to me I only have the choice with the SL setting "Filter Gender Tags Animations" on, that the mistress uses a strap on with male Lola as well as male playmate and when turned off she uses it with neither. Is there any way so she only uses it with Lola? 

If I understand correctly, you want the mistress to use a strap-on with your male character, but not with your male playmate.

 

That's not simple, because SexLab sees a female with a male in both cases.  SLTR doesn't use different options for owner sex with Lola versus with the playmate.  The easiest thing would be to turn off owner sex with the playmate to just hide the thing you don't want.

 

It looks like you've set the mistress's gender to male in SexLab to get her to always use a strap-on with your male character. Gender swaps tend to cause undesired results.  I suggest setting the mistress's SexLab gender to female, enable gender filtering, and in SLTR's MCM set "Owner prefers anal" to 100%.

[ealklas]

1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said:

It looks like you've set the mistress's gender to male in SexLab to get her to always use a strap-on with your male character. Gender swaps tend to cause undesired results.  I suggest setting the mistress's SexLab gender to female, enable gender filtering, and in SLTR's MCM set "Owner prefers anal" to 100%.

 

Bummer, I thought I might have missed something and it was a bit more fine tunable. Well at least I have found a setting in SkyrimNet that seemed to have fixed the dropped lines (Should silence actors). 

[KitKatKseniya]

On 9/7/2026 at 3:25 AM, Hex Bolt said:

 

Done for the next update.  Although it's not a buff, the existing behavior for this mod's use of head pats is to reduce arousal by 20 points (it's calming), so one could request a head pat to help manage arousal.  I put it on a cooldown, so you'll probably only get to use it once per day unless you don't sleep much.

 

Also, I departed from my usual practice of hiding optional content, because a lot of people don't seem to be aware that Head Pats will be used if the animation is enabled, despite the reference to it under "Suggested Mods" on the mod page.  So, the topic to request a pat on the head will be visible even if the animation is not installed.  Selecting it will display a message informing you about this optional content.  Players who don't want it can just ignore that topic, just as they might ignore the lines to volunteer for prostitution or sweeping.

 

Lastly, I've grouped the topics to request a favor into a subtopic under "Master?" to reduce the number of lines to scroll through.  The subtopic will have the lines to request spanking, whipping, kissing, and head pats.  If I add more favors at some point, they'll go here without bloating the "Master?" topic.

 

Thank you so much! 

[xyzxyz]

Hmm, the playmate is very dominant despite the setting beeing 0 (balanced). She is no former master or anything. but I never get to be on top

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

Hmm, the playmate is very dominant despite the setting beeing 0 (balanced). She is no former master or anything. but I never get to be on top

Are you perhaps wearing something that unconsciously makes your thoughts more submissive, like the Shieldmaiden's Ring?  If you're wearing that, you have no chance to successfully be dominant toward the playmate.

 

Otherwise, her reaction depends on your behavior.  If she asks for sex and you immediately agree, you're not being forceful.  You're giving her what she wanted.  There's certainly nothing wrong with that, just two who want sex doing it without mind games, but if you're not acting dominant, you're unlikely to convince her to take the submissive position.  Your chance of success is around 10%.

 

If you put her off by telling her not now, she gets more desperate and your position becomes stronger.  You're playing hard to get.  The longer you make her wait, the more frustrated she gets and the more likely it is that she'll agree to let you be on top.  However, there's a risk with putting her off too many times.

 

If her arousal reaches 100, she will force sex with you and use you roughly.  Her confidence permanently increases every time she sexually dominates you.  She starts thinking, "why did should I wait when I can just force it?"  Also, if you ever reply submissively ("yes miss") her confidence increases permanently each time.  Increased confidence is separate from her dominance setting, so even at "Submissive", she might become too confident to agree to your desire. 

[xyzxyz]

3 hours ago, Hex Bolt said:

Are you perhaps wearing something that unconsciously makes your thoughts more submissive, like the Shieldmaiden's Ring?  If you're wearing that, you have no chance to successfully be dominant toward the playmate.

No items. I just always use the "But I get on top" answer which she denies every time.

"very well" doesn't sound very desperate when I decline her.

Edited September 12 by xyzxyz

[RoboLancer]

@Hex Bolt

Working on an 'owner is a vampire' follower mod and it's coming along.  I want to add some dialogue that calls on Submissive Lola; basically using a global or questvar that I can access external of your esp.  I want the vamp follower to know the player is Lola.  Any suggestions?

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

"very well" doesn't sound very desperate when I decline her.

That's right, it's not.  You have to do it several times before agreeing to sex with her to see the changes in response.  This assumes that she has not forced sex with you 3 or more times.  If she has, she will never agree to let you be on top; also, she won't let you put her off many times before she just forces it.

 

31 minutes ago, RoboLancer said:

I want the vamp follower to know the player is Lola.  Any suggestions?

Sure, check out the For Modders section on the mod page and "Getting the Owner or Playmate".  If you just want to be notified when it happens, register for the "SLTR Start" and "SLTR Exit" mod events.

Edited September 13 by Hex Bolt

[RoboLancer]

17 minutes ago, Hex Bolt said:

Sure, check out the For Modders section on the mod page and "Getting the Owner or Playmate".  If you just want to be notified when it happens, register for the "SLTR Start" and "SLTR Exit" mod events.

I looked at that for an easy answer and it doesn't address what I want to do.  I want to make the follower mod as light as possible (uses what players already have installed, compatibility with overhauls, etc.)

Specifically I would like to use Condition Item in dialogue; GetGlobalValue (the necessary global from you mod) the Comparison and the Value, ran on the Target (follower speaking to Lola).  I know how to do it, just not the global I can access externally.  I want to avoid using a script.  Sorry if I can't explain myself clearly.  Here's an image for clarification.

 

 

Specifically, what global should I use in the INVALID field to identify Lola?  Apologies for not making my intent clear.

 

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, RoboLancer said:

I looked at that for an easy answer and it doesn't address what I want to do.

You have a conundrum.  Without using a script, you can't access another mod's global variables without making it a master (a hard dependence), but if you make it a master, it's trivial to determine whether the PC is enslaved (GetQuestRunning on vkjMQ quest), so you don't need to access global variables.  So, the question is, are you okay with a hard dependence on Submissive Lola?

[RoboLancer]

1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said:

You have a conundrum.  Without using a script, you can't access another mod's global variables without making it a master (a hard dependence), but if you make it a master, it's trivial to determine whether the PC is enslaved (GetQuestRunning on vkjMQ quest), so you don't need to access global variables.  So, the question is, are you okay with a hard dependence on Submissive Lola?

What I'm doing is 'just another lame follower mod' without Lola so I'm okay with a hard dependency.  I'm using the Update and Dawnguard, so what's another 7 esms going to matter? 😆

 

Thank you for your time. 👍