[mod] Giantess Queens

[hamimobe]

Guys, I don't know how many of you still follow my mod, but judging by downloads on loverslab it's a sizeable number. In case you're wondering whether the mod is being developed at all, here's a little teaser for you:
 

It's the generic text, for compassionate giantesses it is different (and quite funny imo). The cravings are basically the same, but with the addition of vore (I decided it will be fatal, at least for tinies without any perks). I decided not to gate the options behind the traits too much, although there are still some restrictions where it makes sense. The main part of the code is already written, I just need to polish some effects like tyranny and gaining secrets and write localization for each interaction. Apart from that I also want to add the new pregnancy system, a unique inheritance type for giantesses or at least give them enatic, and maybe a few perks for both giantesses and tinies. Maybe 1-2 new sex interactions as well, but we'll see. If you have any ideas for torture/cravings, feel free to share.

 

Overall I have progressed significantly in my vision of the mod. I already have plans for some really cool features, although they will take a while. Basically the division between evil and gentle giantesses will be way bigger, and I want them to be at war of epic proportions (think Lord of the Rings or the War in Heaven from Stellaris). Giantesses will change their appearance depending on whether they are good or evil (graphics is not my strong side, but I'll see want I can do, although it would be great if someone with proper knowledge could help me). Also there will be ways to strengthen your giantess bloodline and get closer to godhood/immortality, getting really strong bonuses (but getting there will also be hard). Of course, I will not leave tinies without content as well.

 

I am very happy to work on this mod, because the possibilities are limitless. For example evil giantess will have perks that will allow them to slowly digest people and absorb their traits/stats, sit on entire cities, stomp armies (could work like a temporary huge boost to leading troops), absorb men into wombs and become pregnant this way, and so on. And ideally they will look like demons if they get enough evil points. Gentle giantesses will basically get huge bonuses elsewhere and will charm people around them, and will on the other hand look like angels.

[kavvanshrike]

ooh very exciting, can't wait to see these kinky interactions implemented into the mod

[The Lord]

Two comments/questions/suggestions:

 

1. To me it seemed as though the chance of dying as a Tiny under a Giantess ruler (even if gentle) was quite high. This made regular gameplay as a Tiny quite arduous, as you could bet on your characters dying rather young (most likely not surviving into their 60s or even 50s). While not an instant death sentence for a Tiny playthrough, it felt imbalanced, i. e. unnecessarily punishing. While I can understand that with evil Giantesses life as a Tiny would be horrible, it didn't make much sense to me in the gentle scenario. Wouldn't they actively try to ensure that they didn't overburden their Tinies, crush them in sex etc.? I am not sure, how much you tested playing a Tiny (not going for any Giantesses at all), neither do I know, whether this is even a reasonable focus for you at the moment given your resources as a single person development team. Should you, however, find the time someday, I'd like to suggest taking a thorough look at Tiny gameplay as well. Smut is good and all, but, I'd like to play the game still.

 

2. Will you ever make and support a version of the mod without all the cannibalism, vore etc. (not sure what the right term is here)? I was thinking, for instance, about an option in the start menu to toggle different Giantess sizes (like you can toggle Enable or Disable body traits added by Carnalitas etc.). Currently, graphics restrict Giantess models to what you called Mini-Giantesses. They would probably already be strong enough to dominate any other ruler in multiple ways without the need for all the eating parts. Given this is probably the low end or soft end of the Giantess Fetish, I could understand if this is not attractive to you, thus, you don't really want to go there (one writes best when one likes what they write). Hence, my question.

 

Thank you for your mod and good luck on your endeavours.

[hamimobe]

3 hours ago, The Lord said:

Two comments/questions/suggestions:

 

1. To me it seemed as though the chance of dying as a Tiny under a Giantess ruler (even if gentle) was quite high. This made regular gameplay as a Tiny quite arduous, as you could bet on your characters dying rather young (most likely not surviving into their 60s or even 50s). While not an instant death sentence for a Tiny playthrough, it felt imbalanced, i. e. unnecessarily punishing. While I can understand that with evil Giantesses life as a Tiny would be horrible, it didn't make much sense to me in the gentle scenario. Wouldn't they actively try to ensure that they didn't overburden their Tinies, crush them in sex etc.? I am not sure, how much you tested playing a Tiny (not going for any Giantesses at all), neither do I know, whether this is even a reasonable focus for you at the moment given your resources as a single person development team. Should you, however, find the time someday, I'd like to suggest taking a thorough look at Tiny gameplay as well. Smut is good and all, but, I'd like to play the game still.

 

2. Will you ever make and support a version of the mod without all the cannibalism, vore etc. (not sure what the right term is here)? I was thinking, for instance, about an option in the start menu to toggle different Giantess sizes (like you can toggle Enable or Disable body traits added by Carnalitas etc.). Currently, graphics restrict Giantess models to what you called Mini-Giantesses. They would probably already be strong enough to dominate any other ruler in multiple ways without the need for all the eating parts. Given this is probably the low end or soft end of the Giantess Fetish, I could understand if this is not attractive to you, thus, you don't really want to go there (one writes best when one likes what they write). Hence, my question.

 

Thank you for your mod and good luck on your endeavours.

Thanks for input.

1. First of all, like I said, tiny gameplay is a focus for me, because I prefer to play as a tiny myself. Balance is important to me, but testing this myself is pretty hard, since the mod development is already time-consuming and I have duties in my real life. So I kinda hope people will playtest and give their feedback, now and in the future (when the mod will deal with more complex concepts). I thought that current death/injury rates are pretty high for tinies, and your post proves it. I will nerf them a little bit, but will not remove the risk entirely (even a very gentle giantess can easily crush a tiny person in the heat of passion). As a tiny you will also have access to perks that will increase your chance of survival when dealing wth giantesses. Will probably add something like this to gentle giantesses as well. The whole evil vs gentle giantess thing needs to be reworked as well, with tradeoffs related to choosing the path and betraying your ideals. For example I'm not sure how the whole concept of "sex slaves" should work for gentle giantesses, perhaps it should become voluntary for them.

 

2. It's possible to turn off certain parts of the content (for example if I decide to add scat, it will definitely be optional), but I never thought about disabling vore, since I thought pretty much everyone into giantesses likes it. Am I wrong?

 

The models don't really represent the size difference that I'm imagining, my intention is more like a tiny being the size of a giantess's finger. It seems you're more into minigiantesses/amazons, which I totally understand and also like, but currently the focus is on giantesses. Minigiantesses and growth could be added later, but for now I'm concentrating on the size difference that I described, because I feel like it simply has more possibilities for gameplay. So if you want to have a mod with Amazons, you'll have to wait for someone else to make it, since I can't develop everything myself (even though I would love to). Or ideally someone will collaborate with me and amazons/minigiantesses will be part of this mod and integrated with current content via some size growth mechanic, with options to disable certain sizes.

[jokerert1]

could you get into more detail in what kind of ideas you would want for cravings or torture ?

[karlsonf]

Just here to appreciate the progress, the mod already made, great job!

cant wait for those features down the road. 

[hamimobe]

14 hours ago, jokerert1 said:

could you get into more detail in what kind of ideas you would want for cravings or torture ?

For torture it's just an idea of how a giantess can torture tinies, like the vanilla torture, but with body parts. Cravings are meant to be a negative effect of being a giantess, basically compelling you to do bad stuff to tinies depending on your personality with repercussions like tyranny.

[kavvanshrike]

3 hours ago, hamimobe said:

For torture it's just an idea of how a giantess can torture tinies, like the vanilla torture, but with body parts. Cravings are meant to be a negative effect of being a giantess, basically compelling you to do bad stuff to tinies depending on your personality with repercussions like tyranny.

kinda obvious what a gluttonous giantess would crave(ie. take every opputunity to eat tinies)

[hamimobe]

1 hour ago, kavvanshrike said:

kinda obvious what a gluttonous giantess would crave(ie. take every opputunity to eat tinies)

Like I said, it's already in. So I need something less obvious...

[jokerert1]

maybe for "Arrogant" let the giantess have a craving to "play" with people belonging to higher houses.

for "Deceitful" the giantess could have a craving to invite vassals or council members to a fake feast or try to trick them by inviteing them to a hunt and fullfill her desires.

[CKuser]

Easily the best mod I've seen for ck3 so far. Do make sure to not burn yourself out of developing this. Eagerly waiting for those planned changes!

[hamimobe]

2 hours ago, CKuser said:

Easily the best mod I've seen for ck3 so far. Do make sure to not burn yourself out of developing this. Eagerly waiting for those planned changes!

Thank you, this is very inspiring for me to hear. I don't think I'll get burned out in the near future, but the progress won't be very fast, sadly, since I'm doing it myself. I'll also be reworking how sex interactions work (sex slaves will be removed), so the next update will take a while.

[hamimobe]

I want to apply appearance effects based on the giantess's alignments (like in KOTOR or Fable). Evil giantesses will have grey skin, red/orange eyes and black hair, while good giantesses will have bronze skin colour, blue eyes and blonde hair. Is that a good idea, what do you think?

[Yurrii_The_Shark]

It sounds neat, but seems to be a bit non-CK to me. What with the whole bloodlines and what, seems a but weird to suddenly change appearance like that.

[hamimobe]

4 hours ago, Yurrii_The_Shark said:

It sounds neat, but seems to be a bit non-CK to me. What with the whole bloodlines and what, seems a but weird to suddenly change appearance like that.

OK, I wanted to know the viability of this change, because I was a bit sceptical myself. I will not add appearance changes for now then. But alignment will still be in and have effects.

[Mystery devourer]

Thank you, this module is very interesting.

[hamimobe]

I have once again changed my vision of the mod, so you can basically forget what I said before.

I'm creating a poll to see what features in general people want to see in the mod. I will still develop it according to my vision, but if I'm not very interested in something and people don't really want it either, I can spend my time working on other features. Only choose options that you really like, if you don't really care about a feature don't choose it, even if you aren't against it.

Questions:

Giantess vs Tiny

Gentle vs Evil

Aspects

Gameplay

Number of Giantesses

[jokerert1]

Are options with fewer votes being disregarded completly or are you just going to prioritize the popular ones ?

[hamimobe]

3 hours ago, jokerert1 said:

Are options with fewer votes being disregarded completly or are you just going to prioritize the popular ones ?

To be honest, the results don't really matter at all. For example, Amazons/Minigiantesses/Growth got the first place but I simply don't know how to implement this in a meaningful way. Same with gentle giantesses, it's a very popular option but I don't know how to make a gameplay as a 100% gentle giantess interesting.

[The Lord]

Might I suggest the following (if you haven't done so already anyways):

 

Wait for the poll results until you think enough people have voted for a good image of what some people here are interested in most. Then, try to take the results to other forums where people talk about adult gaming in general or the giant/giantess fetish in particular. Think of reddit (/r/NSFWgaming) or boards such as Fenoxo's (https://forum.fenoxo.com/), Discords (https://disboard.org/de/servers/tag/giantess) etc. Anything, where you might find people who can provide you with ideas and such. They don't even have to know the game very well, since they'll still be able to give inspiration just by describing a situation (e. g. for an event). You could also try to cross-post into other parts of LoversLab (always check the rules for posting first). The Elder Scrolls modding community is far larger than the CK one, for instance, and, thus, there would be more people who could potentially have ideas.

 

Alternatively or additionally you can try to look for smutfiction writers on Patreon or SubscribeStar (Adult) who have in the past written stuff regarding this fetish. Some might be willing to give you pointers (for free) and if you ever find yourself with some money to spare or you raise some funds from the posters here, you might be able to commission some events. Should you not be able to find such writers quickly, you can always just ask in the places mentioned above or some place similar.

 

Just, please, don't burn yourself out. Take it slow and wait for ideas or people to show up if, even after looking for them extensively, none turned up. You might need some stamina to get through this part of modding. So, keep on fighting!

[hamimobe]

1 hour ago, The Lord said:

Might I suggest the following (if you haven't done so already anyways):

 

Wait for the poll results until you think enough people have voted for a good image of what some people here are interested in most. Then, try to take the results to other forums where people talk about adult gaming in general or the giant/giantess fetish in particular. Think of reddit (/r/NSFWgaming) or boards such as Fenoxo's (https://forum.fenoxo.com/), Discords (https://disboard.org/de/servers/tag/giantess) etc. Anything, where you might find people who can provide you with ideas and such. They don't even have to know the game very well, since they'll still be able to give inspiration just by describing a situation (e. g. for an event). You could also try to cross-post into other parts of LoversLab (always check the rules for posting first). The Elder Scrolls modding community is far larger than the CK one, for instance, and, thus, there would be more people who could potentially have ideas.

 

Alternatively or additionally you can try to look for smutfiction writers on Patreon or SubscribeStar (Adult) who have in the past written stuff regarding this fetish. Some might be willing to give you pointers (for free) and if you ever find yourself with some money to spare or you raise some funds from the posters here, you might be able to commission some events. Should you not be able to find such writers quickly, you can always just ask in the places mentioned above or some place similar.

 

Just, please, don't burn yourself out. Take it slow and wait for ideas or people to show up if, even after looking for them extensively, none turned up. You might need some stamina to get through this part of modding. So, keep on fighting!

I don't think it's worth sharing this mod outside of the two forums I have already chosen (giantesscity and loverslab, also eka's is exposed). If you're looking for giantess content you should already be on giantesscity, and for ck3 adult content everyone will already go to loverslab. If ck3 players and giantess fans can't come up with any ideas regarding this mod, some outsider writers definitely won't. If people who played this mod aren't motivated enough to try to write events and texts, people from TES/reddit won't be either.

 

I think there are already a lot of people who want this mod to have a different direction than what I envision, for example lots of people want amazons but I simply don't know how this could work gameplay-wise. It all sounds good on paper, but if I start adding different stuff into the mod it will turn into an incoherent theme park with no balance and direction, which I don't want.

 

To be honest I considered abandoning this mod for the past few days because I couldn't understand what the gameplay was going to be. A lot of fetish mods/games suffer from what I call a "theme park syndrome", basically they add lots of flavour stuff which you visit once and move on, because the gameplay itself is boring and there's no replayability. I don't want my mod to be like this. If I realize that there's no way I can implement this mod to give an enjoyable gameplay, then I quit.

 

Luckily, I have come up with an idea of how this mod's gameplay could look like, so I will at least try making it happen. But it doesn't contain amazons/growth and there will not be any full-fledged gentle giantesses, which a lot of people won't like, according to the poll. Like I said, I'm not opposed to either of those things, but I simply don't know how they could be integrated into the gameplay. Just creating an amazon trait with 2 events won't work.

[jokerert1]

i had a idea for integrating giantess as a scenario to the world. in the current mod you can become a giantess or be ruled by one by going to the secret cave. maybe you could add an option like the mongolian invasions where giantess start to come out and subjugate current rulers at a certain date that would be random or set.
(set dates could be after the first giantess leaves after a few years some follow or a set period of time)

[hamimobe]

1 hour ago, jokerert1 said:

i had a idea for integrating giantess as a scenario to the world. in the current mod you can become a giantess or be ruled by one by going to the secret cave. maybe you could add an option like the mongolian invasions where giantess start to come out and subjugate current rulers at a certain date that would be random or set.
(set dates could be after the first giantess leaves after a few years some follow or a set period of time)

I might add this later.

 

I plan the gameplay to be like this: giantesses have mana which they gain by interacting with tinies (eating and getting pleasured). They can spend it on magical/super interactions and on prolonging their life (base health will be lower than now). Giantesses will demand to be pleasured and food from their tiny vassals, and AI tinies might become disloyal. To pacify them giantesses will either attempt to break them by cruel interactions (different types of torture, demonstrative executions and terror interactions like destroying cities) or gentle interactions (charming them with their bodies and rewarding them for service). As a tiny you'll either have to submit to your giantess or try to resist/fight her (will have to be smart about this because giantesses will be much stronger and will be able to easily charm/destroy you, so you'll have to use their lust for food/sex to defeat them).

 

So basically all giantesses will be selfish and will attempt to enslave tinies, but their methods will be different. I will probably only leave 1 giantess faith because there won't be a fight between evil and gentle giantesses (because in my opinion purely gentle giantesses will be boring).

[jokerert1]

i think this is a good idea tbh

[jokerert1]

hey i realy like entrapment is it going to be included in the next update and in any other ways besides torture / imprison ?