SLSF Fame Comments Reloaded

[Gristle]

2 hours ago, wHOaMiEH said:

Hey Gristle, all in all a great update. What can we expect in the next one( sorry for me being a parrot and boring you with same shit once in a while  )?

I plan to include "PC likes to share" and "Spouse likes to share" quests and repeatable events in the next version.

 

One issue with these types of quests is to what extent to make them location specific. For example, for an event that takes place in an inn, I can use any inn (LocTypeInn), but if an event involves an NPC coming to a player home, they need to know which player home to go to. Or a guard event could be triggered by dialogue from any guard (GuardDialogueFaction), but if I wanted the event to occur behind some building, or in some guard house, then that doesn't work any more.

 

For the "PC is cuckold" quest, there are both types. The "inn" events can take place in any inn, and most "player home" events can take place in any of the five city player homes. On the other hand, the "bull" events all take place in Whiterun because I needed to identify the "bull". (I also needed to make sure the PC had a home.) Given the "cuckold" nature of the quest, the bull can't logically be chosen by the PC.

 

Even the player homes were restricted to the five city homes because I wanted to identify the player beds (so the spouse could have sex there, instead of on the floor). One option is to have the PC's dialogue or actions drop an invisible marker in order to "tag" locations for specific purposes. But this approach doesn't solve everything either. For example, a PC tagging Breezehome is going to have a lot more stuff going on nearby than a PC tagging Windstead Manor. 

 

The issue is ultimately choosing a balance between "less interesting stuff that works anywhere" or "more interesting events involving specific locations and specific NPCs that work only in one place". If anyone has any thoughts or solutions to this, please let me know. 

 

Otherwise, the todo list of more material things looks like this:

 

* Add separate comment frequency controls for NPCs and followers. (This will help particularly if you have multiple followers. These frequency controls would be built into the mod, and the mod would longer use the SLSF MCM frequency control. This will ease integration with SLSFR in a future version. )

* Add toggle for bandit/forsworn comments.

* Add toggle for Serana comments. (There's a toggle for Serana events, but not comments.)

* Add some Solstheim specific comments.

* Add more comments on PC attributes (based on PC attribute settings in MCM).
* Add comments on PC sex with creatures from Faendal, Mjoll and Serana (other NPC comments on PC sex with creatures are already there)

* In cuckold quest, if vanilla bed is not in player home (because of mods), put sex spot marker next to bed.

* Cancel the "bump" comments when PC is in a scene or in dialogue. (I'll also try to block the "cum" comments from your last sex partner so they don't complain about their own cum. I thought I had done this, but it doesn't seem to be working.)

 

I'd also like to pull out the Markarth exhibitionist quest as a separate quest and expand it. It was the first quest I made, and I've learned a lot since then. It works fine, and seems to be pretty bullet proof (considering everyone runs 100s of mods), but it could be improved. I didn't know how to create multi-person scenes or to change NPC schedules (and a lot of other stuff) when I made it. 

 

 

Edited May 31, 2025 by Gristle

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, Gristle said:

I plan to include "PC likes to share" and "Spouse likes to share" quests and repeatable events in the next version.

 

One issue with these types of quests is to what extent to make them location specific. For example, for an event that takes place in an inn, I can use any inn (LocTypeInn), but if an event involves an NPC coming to a player home, they need to know which player home to go to. Or a guard event could be triggered by dialogue from any guard (GuardDialogueFaction), but if I wanted the event to occur behind some building, or in some guard house, then that doesn't work any more.

 

 

I can understand the dilemma of location but when it comes to player homes I think the marital bed is PlayerBedOwnership [FACT:000F2073] if that helps any?

[eflat01]

3 hours ago, Gristle said:

* Add separate comment frequency controls for NPCs and followers. (This will help particularly if you have multiple followers. These frequency controls would be built into the mod, and the mod would longer use the SLSF MCM frequency control. This will ease integration with SLSFR in a future version. )

* Add toggle for bandit/forsworn comments.

* Add toggle for Serana comments. (There's a toggle for Serana events, but not comments.)

* Add some Solstheim specific comments.

* Add more comments on PC attributes (based on PC attribute settings in MCM).
* Add comments on PC sex with creatures from Faendal, Mjoll and Serana (other NPC comments on PC sex with creatures are already there)

* In cuckold quest, if vanilla bed is not in player home (because of mods), put sex spot marker next to bed.

* Cancel the "bump" comments when PC is in a scene or in dialogue. (I'll also try to block the "cum" comments from your last sex partner so they don't complain about their own cum. I thought I had done this, but it doesn't seem to be working.)

 

 

1. I look forward to the separated frequency control as I've other mods with events happening... I rarely travel with a follower, usually just one follower but sometimes do have two. 

2. Bandit/Forsworn toggle would be nice, is not something I pay much attention to.

3. When a follower is with me it's likely Serana.

4. Everyone seems to forget about that Redoran guard voice

5. PC attributes... I don't know what that means due I don;t have the McM up

6. PC Sex with creatures... Serana does make remarks on that but not sure on the others

7. Okay - Keep the setting spouse likes to share and look forward to that.

8. I get quite a bit of Bump but they usually come from other mods - spank that a$$ for instance - which seem to override SLSFC, as for cum comments I think it would be interesting if npc's who had any sexual relations with the PC would say something but not in a negative? i.e. they see a facial, etc... may say they have more for that area.

Edited May 31, 2025 by eflat01

[DrSeptimus]

On 7/4/2023 at 4:04 PM, Gristle said:

Rogen and Adrianne also need to be in Warmaidens for Ulfberth to have the spriggan wood dialogue (because he has a deal that requires the presence of those two). Adrianne should be there on her normal schedule. Rogen should be following you.

 

I thought it was bug, Adrianne almost never at Warmaidens at 6pm, by the time she is in it is already quite late.

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, DrSeptimus said:

 

I thought it was bug, Adrianne almost never at Warmaidens at 6pm, by the time she is in it is already quite late.

 

Well, Adrianne is a busy lady but you should have about a three hour window for that.

 

Looking at her vanilla packages: 

1. She wakes up at 6am, and will go outside to her smith shop for eleven hours. 
2. Come 17:00 (5 pm) she goes back inside eating, sitting around, using idle markers
3. Her husband runs the shop inside from 8am to 8pm. (So the shop is still open for business with Adrianne in it)
4. At 20:00 (8 pm) Adrianne goes back outside and walks around town until mid-night (she'll come home and goes to bed)

 

If you're friends with both of them you should be able to wake them up in the middle of the night (though I do not remember if @Gristle set a particular end time on the window?).

 

Spoiler

I really enjoyed the Dibellan quest. It's well put together but there were times I got lost or a bit confused, but I have a tendency to load up a mod in Creation Kit or SSeEdit in such cases to see wtf I missed. 😉 (I like to complete everything I can.)

 

Places I had trouble with on the Dibellan quest:

 

1.  lost Lillian Vici once due to fast travel 
2. I had a hard time deciphering the poem for the temple clue (I expected "high sun" in "plain site" so was looking around the marketplace, for some darn reason) - On top that  where it is J.K.'s Skyrim through some ivy over the door. @Gristle gave me a clue...

 

Yes, I'm one of those nosey completionist, a pet-peev, I like to discover every location, find near every item, and complete nearly every quest I can (where they're at odds I usually take the high-ground). So, I'm opt to peak if not just for a quest form - missing a quest line irks me. Also pretty good at breaking things. 🙂 

 

There used to be a Beast of Whiterun quest in the mod, seeing that I loaded up MNC and slowly built fame using Evelyn's fox until I got the Jarl letters and an invite to see the guards later in the quest. I did not realize at first it was not finished ... that quest was removed on the next update  so had to setstage to complete it out of my journal. My Dragonborn is still known as the Beast Whore of Whiterun to many npcs, well what some call her, and she'd a letter to prove it. 

 

Edited June 2, 2025 by eflat01

[Gristle]

58 minutes ago, DrSeptimus said:

 

I thought it was bug, Adrianne almost never at Warmaidens at 6pm, by the time she is in it is already quite late.

As @eflat01 described, she should be there (somewhere - you might find her in the back room or upstairs). If she's not there in the early evening, then another mod is changing her vanilla schedule. 

 

This mod is not changing her vanilla schedule. I could do that (so you don't have to wait for Adrianne to be together with her husband in Warmaidens), but another mod giving her an AI package in a quest with a higher priority could nonetheless override any AI packages given to her in this mod, so there's no way to completely avoid potential conflicts. 

[Gristle]

On 5/31/2025 at 3:53 PM, eflat01 said:

5. PC attributes... I don't know what that means due I don;t have the McM up

There are MCM settings for chest size, butt size and age/appearance (are you youthful looking or not?).  All for comment purposes of course. These switches don't affect events.

On 5/31/2025 at 3:53 PM, eflat01 said:

6. PC Sex with creatures... Serana does make remarks on that but not sure on the others

Really? I may have initially given her some, but I don't think she has the full range that other NPCs have. I'll have to check.

On 5/31/2025 at 3:53 PM, eflat01 said:

8. I get quite a bit of Bump but they usually come from other mods - spank that a$$ for instance - which seem to override SLSFC, as for cum comments I think it would be interesting if npc's who had any sexual relations with the PC would say something but not in a negative? i.e. they see a facial, etc... may say they have more for that area.

The problem is -- should the comment from a past sex partner be positive or negative? Let's say I put all PC sex partners in a faction (HadSexWithPCFaction). So far so good, but I have no other context for comments. Was the PC raped? Did the PC initiate the sex? I'll think about this. The mod does have comments from past sex partners of married PCs (and from past sex partners of their spouses), but this is an area I can expand. I'll take a look at general past PC partner comments as well.  

 

 

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, Gristle said:

There are MCM settings for chest size, butt size and age/appearance (are you youthful looking or not?).  All for comment purposes of course. These switches don't affect events.

Really? I may have initially given her some, but I don't think she has the full range that other NPCs have. I'll have to check.

The problem is -- should the comment from a past sex partner be positive or negative? Let's say I put all PC sex partners in a faction (HadSexWithPCFaction). So far so good, but I have no other context for comments. Was the PC raped? Did the PC initiate the sex? I'll think about this. The mod does have comments from past sex partners of married PCs (and from past sex partners of their spouses), but this is an area I can expand. I'll take a look at general past PC partner comments as well.  

 

 

 

1. Typically not 

 

2. She says a lot, typically locations where beast fame is high, she'll say things like not direct quotes but she'll say She loves watching you with an animal., sometimes she'll say she wants to find an animal to fuck you or something like that, There a are a number of comments she'll make when sex is happening also. 

 

Spoiler

Tip of the iceberg really, in sex animations she'll say things like :

 

"Hounds certainly love your ass."

"He knows what to do with a female in heat."

"Look at my little beast bitch!"

"You want that dog cock, don't you?"

"Give that dirty beast whore what she wants!"

"Pound her beast-loving ass!"

 

3. I know that would be very difficult, which is why I said it would be - just be a nice to see. You're right it's hard to tell the circumstance of the past sexual encounter. Obvious a rapist may say something degrading but more to the tune of  "I can see by that cum on your face, you know your place now bitch."  while a consensual hook-up, casual lover or a kinky spouse might say "That cum looks good on you, I'll add more if you want."  where as some reserved or jealous type lover may say "You're covered in cum have you no shame? I can't believe I'd fucked such a whore like you." While a prior client of a PC who's a prostitute might say "I can see you're working due that mess dripping down your legs."  So, yes that  adds a lot of complexity with how deep you'd like to dive.

 

There are already have a ton of interjected comments... whereas I'd like to see more play of events kind of sprout off of some.

 

Like when Serana says We should find a cock or pussy for you, or maybe when she makes comments about you being her little whore, maybe  pimp the PC out. She does tend to like to strip the PC quite a bit, bind her hands, toss a sack on her head and dares her to walk into an inn like that. 

 

As I said in prior post I'm looking forward to the "Spouse like to Share PC" quests.

 

In other news... I sometimes forget to remove the DB's earrings when in Markart, get stripped and fined, then the guard will turn around and "Wait, I know you." and attempt to arrest. lol 😉 

Edited June 2, 2025 by eflat01

[Gristle]

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

2. She says a lot, typically locations where beast fame is high, she'll say things like not direct quotes but she'll say She loves watching you with an animal., sometimes she'll say she wants to find an animal to fuck you or something like that, There a are a number of comments she'll make when sex is happening also. 

I think she has dog and horse comments. Of course, that's what you're likely to find in cities and towns, where beast fame is tracked. But I've since built in checks for 10 other animals. I don't think Serana has comments during PC/creature sex for these.

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

There are already have a ton of interjected comments... whereas I'd like to see more play of events kind of sprout off of some.

 

Like when Serana says We should find a cock or pussy for you, or maybe when she makes comments about you being her little whore, maybe  pimp the PC out. She does tend to like to strip the PC quite a bit, bind her hands, toss a sack on her head and dares her to walk into an inn like that. 

 

As I said in prior post I'm looking forward to the "Spouse like to Share PC" quests.

The issue with events is they interrupt game play to a degree that might be undesired by some players. I suppose the MCM event switches can take care of that, but the current events are also pretty "light" in that they involve at most a single sex scene, or the placement of some item that can easily be removed. The marriage quests are intended to provide more involved events, but they are intended to serve as a second "layer" of events for players who want more interaction. Of course, they are tied to a "spouse". I could change that so the designated follower doesn't have to be "married" or called a "spouse", but that would be a huge amount of work to change all the scenes and dialogue, which presume a spouse and not a "close friend" or "partner". Also, the spouse angle provides for more drama.  In any case, I think the "likes to share" quests will provide a lot of the types of events you are describing.

[Rayu49]

Hi fan of the mod, I don't know if there are plans to expand the repertoire of marriage options. The cuckold husband quest is entertaining, but I don't know if there is interest in other clichés like the innocent wife who is slowly corrupted and stolen by another (in this case I would propose Mikael as the antagonist given his "gigolo" status), or the clumsy wife who ends up in erotic situations. Also, there are plans to integrate other followers like J'zargo, which I don't know why I would find it very funny, or Larkspur by 3DNPC since I think her background fits the mood.
Anyhow keep on the good work, this is a great mod.

Note: Google Transleted.

[Gristle]

2 hours ago, Rayu49 said:

Hi fan of the mod, I don't know if there are plans to expand the repertoire of marriage options. The cuckold husband quest is entertaining, but I don't know if there is interest in other clichés like the innocent wife who is slowly corrupted and stolen by another (in this case I would propose Mikael as the antagonist given his "gigolo" status), or the clumsy wife who ends up in erotic situations. Also, there are plans to integrate other followers like J'zargo, which I don't know why I would find it very funny, or Larkspur by 3DNPC since I think her background fits the mood.
Anyhow keep on the good work, this is a great mod.

Note: Google Transleted.

There's a lot of different possible relationships, but I think I'm going to have to stick to the main ones. The next will be the typical "hotwife" scenarios, where one spouse likes to share and watch his or her spouse with others. The plan is that one spouse would have to encourage the other to "cheat" at the beginning, and then it would change to more of a "swinging" lifestyle. What you are describing is pretty much a "PC is cuckold" scenario, except the spouse starts out innocent, while in the current quest the spouse suspects at the beginning that they will cheat.

 

So, the current "PC is cuckold" spouse cheating is bold and known. The problem with the more discreet and subtle type of spouse "cheating" is that it's impossible to set up within the game. Followers always follow, so the spouse is always there for follower spouses. As for stay-at-home spouses, a Sexlab animation won't start unless all the actors are in the cell and the cell is loaded. So, any cheating by stay-at-home spouses would only be represented by rumors said by other NPCs. That's fine, but it's hard to tell a story just with rumors, and it takes a lot of fun out of seeing the cheating activity.  

[coronelwirs]

On 5/22/2025 at 2:16 AM, Tyvark said:

I am on the Dibellan Whore of Markarth quest and every time I talk to Ulfberth to get the Spriggan Wood the dialog option does not appear. Captain Rogen is nearby, and the only option I see is to return between 6-8pm, but when I return at those times then there is no dialog to complete the quest.

Hi, since you're on this quest, can you tell me what to do at the Thalmor headquarters? Even the script didn't work for me. It would be better to write the quest code or its name for the console, like SLSF_.... I should have just skipped it and moved on, but I got stuck.

[eflat01]

4 hours ago, coronelwirs said:

Hi, since you're on this quest, can you tell me what to do at the Thalmor headquarters? Even the script didn't work for me. It would be better to write the quest code or its name for the console, like SLSF_.... I should have just skipped it and moved on, but I got stuck.

 

It's been a while since I finished that quest so may be wrong but,

 

Spoiler

I believe you're there for Sigrid's Poem  (Lillian's mother), her Dibellan Amulet is there also I think . I kind of remember it being in the Justiciar's bedroom. They have sex scenes with the justiciars too I think?

 

Edited June 3, 2025 by eflat01

[SsssjsssS]

How does the npc misogyny fame affect the gameplay?

[Gristle]

On 6/3/2025 at 4:58 AM, coronelwirs said:

Hi, since you're on this quest, can you tell me what to do at the Thalmor headquarters? Even the script didn't work for me. It would be better to write the quest code or its name for the console, like SLSF_.... I should have just skipped it and moved on, but I got stuck.

First, you talk to the guards, and you can have sex with them, or not. Next you go upstairs and search for the poem and the amulet. Where are you getting stuck?

 

Stage 290 - the objective is to visit the Thalmor HQ

Stage 300 - the objective is to go upstairs and search for the poem and amulet

Stage 310 - the objective is to read the poem you found

Stage 320 - the objective is to leave the Thalmor HQ

 

You can setstage through this (quest name is SLSF_Comments_JarlLetterMA), but if you don't actually find the poem, you'll also miss out on getting the magical amulet.

 

[Gristle]

1 hour ago, SLAJackson said:

How does the npc misogyny fame affect the gameplay?

It does not. I'm not using any of SLSF's NPC fame variables.

[LAFDA]

Thank you for the author's efforts in creating such an excellent mod. I’m encountering an issue where the quest cannot progress normally. During the "CUCKOLD TRAINING" quest, I’m stuck at the third stage: "Let your spouse spend time in a busy city tavern to find a lover." I’ve taken my spouse to every major city and triggered the SEX scene in every tavern, but the quest remains incomplete and won’t advance to the next stage.

[Gristle]

On 6/6/2025 at 5:52 AM, LAFDA said:

Thank you for the author's efforts in creating such an excellent mod. I’m encountering an issue where the quest cannot progress normally. During the "CUCKOLD TRAINING" quest, I’m stuck at the third stage: "Let your spouse spend time in a busy city tavern to find a lover." I’ve taken my spouse to every major city and triggered the SEX scene in every tavern, but the quest remains incomplete and won’t advance to the next stage.

The quest name is SLSF_Comments_CuckoldPC and stage 65 is "Let your spouse spend time in a busy city tavern to find a lover".  On that stage, your spouse should (randomly) approach NPCs in any city tavern for sex, and take the to a tavern bed. It sounds like that part is working. Meanwhile, there's a script that tracks all spouse sex (using the SexLab.TrackActor() function). When it detects a spouse sex end on stage 65 it advances the stage to 70, which triggers a spouse force greet, which in turn continues the quest.

 

So, run 'player.sqs SLSF_Comments_CuckoldPC' in the console and see if you're still on stage 65 after the sex. If you [are], the most likely problem is you're running Sexlab P+ and you need to update it to a version that has fixed the TrackActor() function. All the previous sex scenes in the cuckold quest involved the PC (which Sexlab tracks differently), so this is the first scene where tracking an NPC is required.

Edited June 8, 2025 by Gristle

[LAFDA]

After the sex scene, the quest is still stuck at stage 65. I haven't installed SexLab P+. Do I need to install it?

[LAFDA]

After installing SexLab P+, the quest still won't progress and remains stuck at stage 65.

[eflat01]

9 hours ago, LAFDA said:

After the sex scene, the quest is still stuck at stage 65. I haven't installed SexLab P+. Do I need to install it?

 

No, all you should need is defined on the mod's description page. (of course if you use sexlab framework you need to have animations for it to use also).

 

What @Gristle said is if you're using SexLab P+ (over top of sexlab framework) you need the latest beta version for many of SLSF Comments quests to work because there were bugs in the prior versions of P+ handling of events when tracking actors. SLSF Comments was designed using SexLab to run scenes so should run fine with that without any issues.

 

 

Edited June 8, 2025 by eflat01

[Myhafaa]

On 6/8/2025 at 11:00 AM, LAFDA said:

After the sex scene, the quest is still stuck at stage 65. I haven't installed SexLab P+. Do I need to install it?

Same thing. It works for me with SLSFC 0.65, But I have problems with 0.71. I think about downgrade and check again. Idk may it be because of OSL Aroused or SLSO? It's obviously because SLSFC not catch "sex end" tracker, but I don't know which of mods can cause it

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, Myhafaa said:

Same thing. It works for me with SLSFC 0.65, But I have problems with 0.71. I think about downgrade and check again. Idk may it be because of OSL Aroused or SLSO? It's obviously because SLSFC not catch "sex end" tracker, but I don't know which of mods can cause it

 

I'd not played the cuck quest but I use OSL Aroused wo any TrackActor issues for any other quests in SLSFC and other mods. SexLab.TrackActor(SpouseActor, "SpouseHook") seems a pretty straight forward SexLab call, if it doesn't work here I doubt it'll work anywhere else it's used. 

 

Now then in SexLab:

 

function TrackActor(Actor ActorRef, string Callback)
    ThreadLib.TrackActor(ActorRef, Callback)
endFunction

 

That is a call to the threadLib 

 

function TrackActor(Actor ActorRef, string Callback)
    FormListAdd(Config, "TrackedActors", ActorRef, false)
    StringListAdd(ActorRef, "SexLabEvents", Callback, false)
endFunction

 

 

Edited June 10, 2025 by eflat01

[borgia42]

On 5/19/2025 at 4:57 AM, borgia42 said:

Thrilled to see work done on a cuck part of the mod, but i'm getting a weird hang trying to do the quest? Locks up on stage 63, partner asks my PC to help them get ready but nothing ever happens.

Since I see people also having issues with quest stages I figured I'd drop this again as well.

[leonardizal]

when i get into the thalmor HQ, the NPCs become hostile and i can get passed it by quickly go throught the dialogue fast before they became hostile. then when i go to the justiciar bedroom, i dont seems to find the sigrid amulet and poem, there is no quest mark in there too. where's the sigrid amulet and poem?

i had troubles of heroine installed too, does it will be cause the quest conflict or bugged?