wip Real-Time Body Physics (DirectX 11)

[CPVC]

9 hours ago, Retezer said:

Hi, so I have several problems :

 

Apparently I places every files correctly like said in "README" problem is, it don't seems to work, nothing move, and I'm on 64bit v but the game was cracked arround late 2020 so I'm pretty sure it's not updated.

No response from the command tab even with the correct typing as said in "README"

 

I also tried the GUI but still no response from the mod even thought the logo showed up at start. But it is said that the GUI cannot connect to the server, maybe is there a precise file where the GUI is supposed be disposed ?

 

I really want to try this mode but sadly I can't find the issue.

 

English is not my native language, so idk if there's any faults.

 

 

If you're seeing the logo at startup, you've installed RTBP correctly. The GUI doesn't have to be placed anywhere special. It should connect to RTBP after the Sims starts up. Note that the command server must be enabled in the "Settings.ini" file, so the "startCommandServer" setting must be set to "true".

 

Depending on your hardware, RTBP might not work for you. As far as I can tell, RTBP doesn't work on Intel GPUs at this time. Fixing this is one of my highest priorities. As soon as I solve this problem, I'll publish a new preview release.

 

Would you mind posting your log file here? It can be found in your Sims 4 installation directory + "/Game/Bin/RTBP/Log.txt". It might help me figure out what the problem is. Thank you!

[Retezer]

22 hours ago, CPVC said:

 

If you're seeing the logo at startup, you've installed RTBP correctly. The GUI doesn't have to be placed anywhere special. It should connect to RTBP after the Sims starts up. Note that the command server must be enabled in the "Settings.ini" file, so the "startCommandServer" setting must be set to "true".

 

Depending on your hardware, RTBP might not work for you. As far as I can tell, RTBP doesn't work on Intel GPUs at this time. Fixing this is one of my highest priorities. As soon as I solve this problem, I'll publish a new preview release.

 

Would you mind posting your log file here? It can be found in your Sims 4 installation directory + "/Game/Bin/RTBP/Log.txt". It might help me figure out what the problem is. Thank you!

Oh maybe I'm on intel, I don't know really much since it's Yoga laptop, anyway here's the log.txt, thx for the response

Log.txt

[DildoSaggins]

Excuse my throwaway username...but will it ever be possible to release patches for specific body mods. For example, the one provided in Wicked Whims. The way this software works really intrigues me, and I'm curious how far it can go. Maybe even hair physics in the future?

[Dranimus]

Hi CPVC

I've installed the most recent version of RTBP and have noticed an anomaly with the butt physics. When increasing the game speed to 2 or 3, the butt mesh appears to stretch and lag. Once the game speed is set to normal, the issue resolves itself. Not sure if I have an incorrect setting, I have been making minor adjustments to see if I can get it to resolve. I will provide the settings below.

Thank you for the awesome mod, you're doing a fantastic job!
 

[rtbp.leftButt.female]
mass=1.5
damping=5.0
springK=500.0
maxLength=0.5
power=1
gravity=9.80665

[rtbp.rightButt.female]
mass=1.5
damping=5.0
springK=500.0
maxLength=0.5
power=1
gravity=9.80665

 

[CPVC]

On 5/27/2021 at 4:03 PM, Retezer said:

Oh maybe I'm on intel, I don't know really much since it's Yoga laptop, anyway here's the log.txt, thx for the response

Log.txt 4.96 kB · 3 downloads

 

Thanks for the log file. It looks like you are running an Intel GPU. According to the log file, you have a "Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620". That would likely explain why RTBP isn't working for you. I'll try to get to the bottom of this issue as soon as possible.

 

10 hours ago, DildoSaggins said:

Excuse my throwaway username...but will it ever be possible to release patches for specific body mods. For example, the one provided in Wicked Whims. The way this software works really intrigues me, and I'm curious how far it can go. Maybe even hair physics in the future?

 

Yes, it's certainly possible, but there's no guarantee that it will work that well. Each sim vertex can only be influenced by 4 bones, so it may not be possible to apply bone maps to all parts of the body. From what I've seen, most sim meshes have at least a couple hundred vertices that are already influenced by 4 bones. More experimentation is needed to test the feasibility of this.

[Retezer]

9 hours ago, CPVC said:

 

Thanks for the log file. It looks like you are running an Intel GPU. According to the log file, you have a "Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620". That would likely explain why RTBP isn't working for you. I'll try to get to the bottom of this issue as soon as possible.

 

 

Yes, it's certainly possible, but there's no guarantee that it will work that well. Each sim vertex can only be influenced by 4 bones, so it may not be possible to apply bone maps to all parts of the body. From what I've seen, most sim meshes have at least a couple hundred vertices that are already influenced by 4 bones. More experimentation is needed to test the feasibility of this.

During multiple sessions I've encounter several bugs that is maybe useful to notify :

 

I don't know how but in the CAS the breast physic worked for shorts instants, when I choose a character the breast seems to be at some mass since it's saggy, but then it stop if I reduce or expand it.

 

Still in the CAS the butt slider seems to expand till infinity when modified in terms of slider

 

The balls in animation glitch to infinity too

 

I don't know if it's useful, but hey maybe it will help you.

[(shameful)]

So I dunno why my issue is happening, even though I have a legitimate Sims copy and followed all the instructions, every time I go to play or CAS the instant it tries to load a sim the game crashes. Any thoughts?

[deki]

does anybody know if there is any way to get rid of this ugly triangle ? ... depending on the varaible of the mass/butt it seems to get bigger...

 

 

[CPVC]

On 5/29/2021 at 3:58 PM, Retezer said:

During multiple sessions I've encounter several bugs that is maybe useful to notify :

 

I don't know how but in the CAS the breast physic worked for shorts instants, when I choose a character the breast seems to be at some mass since it's saggy, but then it stop if I reduce or expand it.

 

Still in the CAS the butt slider seems to expand till infinity when modified in terms of slider

 

The balls in animation glitch to infinity too

 

I don't know if it's useful, but hey maybe it will help you.

 

Hmmm... Are you using the default "Settings.ini" file or a custom one? If so, would you mind posting it here? Depending on your settings, it's actually very easy to break the physics simulators by sending them out of equilibrium. The variables have to balance each other out.

 

On 5/29/2021 at 5:38 PM, (shameful) said:

So I dunno why my issue is happening, even though I have a legitimate Sims copy and followed all the instructions, every time I go to play or CAS the instant it tries to load a sim the game crashes. Any thoughts?

 

Could you post your log file? It is located at "[GAME_INSTALLATION_DIRECTORY]/Game/Bin/RTBP/Log.txt". Thank you. Hopefully RTBP was able to log a stack trace before the game crashed. That information should help me narrow down the location of the problem. (Also, a legit copy is not necessary.)

 

On 5/30/2021 at 3:29 AM, deki said:

does anybody know if there is any way to get rid of this ugly triangle ? ... depending on the varaible of the mass/butt it seems to get bigger...

 

 

 

Does this mesh come from a mod? Custom meshes tend to be more complicated than the default Maxis ones. At this time, the Sims 4 game engine vertices are limited to 4 bone influences. RTBP skips over vertices that already have 4 bone influences.

 

If this mesh does come from a mod, could you link me to it?

[Retezer]

4 hours ago, CPVC said:

 

Hmmm... Are you using the default "Settings.ini" file or a custom one? If so, would you mind posting it here? Depending on your settings, it's actually very easy to break the physics simulators by sending them out of equilibrium. The variables have to balance each other out.

 

 

Could you post your log file? It is located at "[GAME_INSTALLATION_DIRECTORY]/Game/Bin/RTBP/Log.txt". Thank you. Hopefully RTBP was able to log a stack trace before the game crashed. That information should help me narrow down the location of the problem. (Also, a legit copy is not necessary.)

 

 

Does this mesh come from a mod? Custom meshes tend to be more complicated than the default Maxis ones. At this time, the Sims 4 game engine vertices are limited to 4 bone influences. RTBP skips over vertices that already have 4 bone influences.

 

If this mesh does come from a mod, could you link me to it?

Yep it was a custom one posted on the forum. Here it is :

Settings.ini

[Mouldyjamontoast]

In early builds, RTBP was active in CAS as well as in game, which was great as you could see which clothing meshes worked and which didnt.

 

Unfortunately that seems to have stopped working and not sure if it's me, or a change in RTBP.

 

Is this intentional? 

If it was, is there any way of having it as a user setting?

[deki]

13 hours ago, CPVC said:

Does this mesh come from a mod? Custom meshes tend to be more complicated than the default Maxis ones. At this time, the Sims 4 game engine vertices are limited to 4 bone influences. RTBP skips over vertices that already have 4 bone influences.

 

If this mesh does come from a mod, could you link me to it?

 

i have no idea ... it's there even if the SIM is completely naked. it has been there since the first release of your mod so i thought it was an known bug. strange thing is that only one character does not have it. it does not matter if clothed or naked with or without mods but as soon as i try to edit the body with sliders it apperas during WW animations (even though the body has been already modified with sliders in the past)   

 

however i managed to get rid of below triangles by moving the waist upwards with some sliders (don't know if this info helps you somehow)

 

[CPVC]

17 hours ago, Retezer said:

Yep it was a custom one posted on the forum. Here it is :

Settings.ini 1019 B · 2 downloads

 

Well, it's not your settings file. I tested it out and it works on my end. Could you post your log file? Thanks.

 

8 hours ago, Mouldyjamontoast said:

In early builds, RTBP was active in CAS as well as in game, which was great as you could see which clothing meshes worked and which didnt.

 

Unfortunately that seems to have stopped working and not sure if it's me, or a change in RTBP.

 

Is this intentional? 

If it was, is there any way of having it as a user setting?

 

It is certainly not intentional. RTBP is supposed to function in CAS. Could you post your log file? (And I'm sorry that I keep responding to people's bug reports with this same request. When I don't know what the problem is, I ask for the log file because it contains a lot of information that could help me solve the problem or at least point me in the right direction.)

 

7 hours ago, deki said:

 

i have no idea ... it's there even if the SIM is completely naked. it has been there since the first release of your mod so i thought it was an known bug. strange thing is that only one character does not have it. it does not matter if clothed or naked with or without mods but as soon as i try to edit the body with sliders it apperas during WW animations (even though the body has been already modified with sliders in the past)   

 

however i managed to get rid of below triangles by moving the waist upwards with some sliders (don't know if this info helps you somehow)

 

 

Ok, yes, this is a known problem. I'll spare you all the technical details, because it's pretty complicated and it won't make much sense unless you know a lot about 3D graphics programming, but I am aware of this issue and it's something that I'm working on.

 

For all of you: butt and ball physics are a bit more complicated than breast physics. Breast physics work by altering the positions of the breast bones, but butt and ball physics simulators actually modify the mesh data, creating new bones. This doesn't always work as expected.

 

If you're experiencing serious mesh-related bugs, I recommend disabling butt and ball physics.

[Max Valentin]

On 5/21/2021 at 9:43 PM, CPVC said:

 

Ok, thanks for the info and log files. I have a theory as to why this is happening. Could you link me to the default body replacements you use?

Hey, how are you? Sorry to bother you but do you have any tips on how I can fix male shoulders? Thanks in advance

 

[Retezer]

20 hours ago, CPVC said:

 

Well, it's not your settings file. I tested it out and it works on my end. Could you post your log file? Thanks.

 

 

It is certainly not intentional. RTBP is supposed to function in CAS. Could you post your log file? (And I'm sorry that I keep responding to people's bug reports with this same request. When I don't know what the problem is, I ask for the log file because it contains a lot of information that could help me solve the problem or at least point me in the right direction.)

 

 

Ok, yes, this is a known problem. I'll spare you all the technical details, because it's pretty complicated and it won't make much sense unless you know a lot about 3D graphics programming, but I am aware of this issue and it's something that I'm working on.

 

For all of you: butt and ball physics are a bit more complicated than breast physics. Breast physics work by altering the positions of the breast bones, but butt and ball physics simulators actually modify the mesh data, creating new bones. This doesn't always work as expected.

 

If you're experiencing serious mesh-related bugs, I recommend disabling butt and ball physics.

Well actuallly I'm on intel, that's why it's not working, BUT it works during 2sec while in the CAS. Here's the log again anyway

Log.txt

[TingTongAngel]

On 5/16/2021 at 10:25 PM, Max Valentin said:

Hi first I wanted to say that I love this mod, thank you very much for that. I've been facing a problem and I wonder if it's just me, or am I doing something wrong. I installed it and it worked very well, but the male sims' shoulders were drooping and the neck was too long, this automatically applied to all created sims. Would it be a problem with the mod, or is it because I have some body sliders? Thank you very much, any help is appreciated

I'm experiencing the same issue.  Currently only running RTBP, no other mods (for testing purposes).  Using default settings and no custom bodies what so ever.  

Attached my log file, hopefully the issue is easily fixable.  

Log.txt

Edited June 2, 2021 by tingting1234

[CPVC]

7 hours ago, Max Valentin said:

Hey, how are you? Sorry to bother you but do you have any tips on how I can fix male shoulders? Thanks in advance

 

 

I think I may have fixed this problem a few days ago. I had to slightly modify a few constants to make these meshes work with RTBP, but as far as I can tell, female breasts are detected just as well as before and your custom meshes aren't erroneously targeted by RTBP anymore.

 

I haven't had the chance to test it thoroughly, though, so please try this out and tell me if you have any problems. I'm mainly worried about female breast detection being less reliable.

 

1 hour ago, TingTongAngel said:

I'm experiencing the same issue.  Currently only running RTBP, no other mods (for testing purposes).  Using default settings and no custom bodies what so ever.  

Attached my log file, hopefully the issue is easily fixable.  

Log.txt 24.2 kB · 1 download

 

If you're using the same body replacement mods as Max Valentin, this might work for you, too. Please try it out and give me any feedback that you have. Thanks!

 

 

Attached is a build of "d3d9.dll" with the modified constants.

RTBP Test 2021-06-02.zip

[TingTongAngel]

2 hours ago, CPVC said:

 

I think I may have fixed this problem a few days ago. I had to slightly modify a few constants to make these meshes work with RTBP, but as far as I can tell, female breasts are detected just as well as before and your custom meshes aren't erroneously targeted by RTBP anymore.

 

I haven't had the chance to test it thoroughly, though, so please try this out and tell me if you have any problems. I'm mainly worried about female breast detection being less reliable.

 

 

If you're using the same body replacement mods as Max Valentin, this might work for you, too. Please try it out and give me any feedback that you have. Thanks!

 

 

Attached is a build of "d3d9.dll" with the modified constants.

RTBP Test 2021-06-02.zip 2.35 MB · 1 download

YES!!! This works perfectly!  Thank you!

Tested with default male model, and it fixed the issue!

[Max Valentin]

On 6/2/2021 at 8:48 PM, CPVC said:

 

I think I may have fixed this problem a few days ago. I had to slightly modify a few constants to make these meshes work with RTBP, but as far as I can tell, female breasts are detected just as well as before and your custom meshes aren't erroneously targeted by RTBP anymore.

 

I haven't had the chance to test it thoroughly, though, so please try this out and tell me if you have any problems. I'm mainly worried about female breast detection being less reliable.

 

 

If you're using the same body replacement mods as Max Valentin, this might work for you, too. Please try it out and give me any feedback that you have. Thanks!

 

 

Attached is a build of "d3d9.dll" with the modified constants.

RTBP Test 2021-06-02.zip 2.35 MB · 22 downloads

 

Hi! Thanks again. It works perfectly the shoulder error has completely disappeared, I'm very happy about it. I've tested the new version of the dll available and everything works very well, the only error I'm experiencing and it's not a very serious one is that one of my sims' fingers gets dropped, I thought it was important to report. Other than that everything works fine

[Max Valentin]

Hello CPVC, how are you? I used the available tool and changed some values for testing. After that I played a little bit and tested the results, everything worked fine, taking the finger off the sims that got down and moved like it was a body part with movement, it doesn't bother me too much, but as I said it's important to report. Then I logged into CAS and edited some sims and the moves disappeared after that, I switched to other game families and the moves disappeared. Well, here's the log file anyway, so you can analyze it if you want. I hope I'm not bothering you too much. Thank you so much for all your work!

Log.txt

[(shameful)]

You asked me to post this in response to my issue sorry for taking so long.

Log.txt

[Max Valentin]

Update: I discovered through trial and error that what was causing my sim's finger to drop and move it was a non-default top that I recently downloaded from the dumbaby. I also deleted the log file from the Bin folder and I opened the game again and the movements went back to normal.

Edited June 5, 2021 by Max Valentin

[DeusAngels]

how to disable physic for males plz :x im lazy i think

[CPVC]

On 6/9/2021 at 1:28 PM, DeusAngels said:

how to disable physic for males plz :x im lazy i think

 

You need to find your settings file, which is at "[GAME_INSTALL_DIRECTORY]/RTBP/Settings.ini". Find the line that starts with "enableMaleButtPhysics" and change the value after the "=" sign from "true" to "false".

[DeusAngels]

On 6/11/2021 at 2:46 AM, CPVC said:

 

You need to find your settings file, which is at "[GAME_INSTALL_DIRECTORY]/RTBP/Settings.ini". Find the line that starts with "enableMaleButtPhysics" and change the value after the "=" sign from "true" to "false".

Thank you for your reply, and it's a really good job you've done with this mod i endorse