Hex Bolt Posted July 27 Author Posted July 27 On 7/25/2026 at 1:36 AM, Jack005 said: I always have that one active love that poster is really inmersive and the art is really good and the lowering the ceiling option too, but that wouldn't explain the indoor freezes, but yep most freezes happen outside   15 hours ago, jfraser said: I haven't had any issues with the posters. Do you have an ENB?  That's why I had asked @Jack005, do you have the usual engine/crash fixes for SE installed? (There was no answer given.) Without the fixes, the game can crash when loading graphic assets such as hair or posters. 1
Hex Bolt Posted July 28 Author Posted July 28 Version 6.3.28  New:  A new outcome, Solitude Slaughtery.  SE conversion by @Herowynne 2
Hex Bolt Posted July 31 Author Posted July 31 (edited) No update today, I just edited a few details on the mod page, which might have caused a new version notification. Edited July 31 by Hex Bolt 1
CaptainJ03 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 42 minutes ago, stll01batt said: why are the outcomes all SE for an LE mod??? Thy might consider reading the Enslavement Mods section on the landing page. Look out for the letters L and E in this combination: "LE" and feel free to follow the links to the respective mods.
stll01batt Posted August 2 Posted August 2 0/10 for your mod  the outcomes I am interested in are only SE not LE, for a mod that is in Skyrim LE section not SSE!!!!!!
Herowynne Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 hour ago, stll01batt said: 0/10 for your mod  the outcomes I am interested in are only SE not LE, for a mod that is in Skyrim LE section not SSE!!!!!! Simple Slavery is in the LE section because: * it was originally developed for LE, * new development still occurs on LE first, * and it supports both LE and SE.  Simple Slavery doesn’t include any outcomes itself. Simple Slavery acts as a gateway to other mods, created by other mod authors.  If there are outcome mods on SE that you want to play, then you should consider playing SE. 4
rkatt Posted August 2 Posted August 2 MO2 is reporting that the SE version has a form 43 plugin. Am I doing something wrong?
Herowynne Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 34 minutes ago, rkatt said: MO2 is reporting that the SE version has a form 43 plugin. Am I doing something wrong?  MO2 is reporting that correctly. Yes, the SE version has a form 43 plugin. Form 43 works fine in SE.  You can either ignore the MO2 warning, or you can turn that warning off in MO2's settings.  Spoiler  Edited August 2 by Herowynne 2
Hex Bolt Posted August 3 Author Posted August 3 Version 6.3.29  New:  A new outcome, The Haunted Brothel  SE conversion by @Herowynne
Hex Bolt Posted August 3 Author Posted August 3 (edited) Sorry for the update spam. I had several updates to make to the mod page, adding some extra links and missing details. Edited August 3 by Hex Bolt
jfraser Posted August 3 Posted August 3 1 hour ago, Hex Bolt said: Version 6.3.29  New:  A new outcome, The Haunted Brothel  SE conversion by @Herowynne  Not sure how this fits but I like it! Perhaps rich people are watching the proceedings through scrying and betting on the outcome. XD 2
Hex Bolt Posted August 3 Author Posted August 3 21 minutes ago, jfraser said: Not sure how this fits but I like it! Perhaps rich people are watching the proceedings through scrying and betting on the outcome. XD I only had time to test it briefly, but it has a Simple Slavery introduction, so you're not just dropped into a situation. It's repeatable, perhaps a welcome alternative for players who want consequence for a combat defeat without wearing a slave collar. It does seem fun. 2
Herowynne Posted August 3 Posted August 3 10 hours ago, jfraser said: Â Not sure how this fits but I like it! Perhaps rich people are watching the proceedings through scrying and betting on the outcome. XD Yes, the introduction dialogue says something like that. 1
Jack005 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 (edited) On 7/27/2026 at 12:32 PM, Hex Bolt said:    That's why I had asked @Jack005, do you have the usual engine/crash fixes for SE installed? (There was no answer given.) Without the fixes, the game can crash when loading graphic assets such as hair or posters. But I did answer, I have everything engine fixes, animation crash fixes, like everything on stability, and I came from a little test, I enable ss++ and then went to clockwork mod story, not freezes at all, came back to skyrim main map and not even 20 min freeze during animation, I would really have to change that cpu and motherboard, everything went down after changing gpu, thats why I suspecting bottleneck, soo pretty sure not going to be here for a while, this is my loadorder just in case someone knows something about some incopatiblity I didnt know and dares to search through all that Spoiler  0 0   Skyrim.esm  1 1   Update.esm  2 2   Dawnguard.esm  3 3   HearthFires.esm  4 4   Dragonborn.esm  5 5   ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm 254 FE  0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl 254 FE  1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl  6 6   ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 254 FE  2 _ResourcePack.esl  7 7   unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp  8 8   Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 254 FE  3 SAS.esl 254 FE  4 kcf.esm  9 9   LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm  10 a   RealisticWaterTwo - 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TRX - Futanari Addon.esp 254 FE 33e NoGrassias Ultimate.esp 254 FE 33f WoodworkersWhim.esp 231 e7   Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 340 NewArmoury+OrdinatorPerkDesc.esp 232 e8   Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 233 e9   Odin - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 254 FE 341 Ordinator - No Timed Block.esp 254 FE 342 Ordinator- Honed Metal Perks.esp 254 FE 343 CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp 234 ea   Better Vampires.esp 235 eb   nwsFollowerFramework.esp 254 FE 344 SDA NFF Patch.esp 254 FE 345 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 254 FE 346 RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp 236 ec   Realm of Lorkhan - Custom Alternate Start - Choose your own adventure.esp 254 FE 347 Realm of Lorkhan - Secunda Hall Fixes.esp 254 FE 348 AAA_LorkhanEdit.esp 254 FE 349 AAA_MyCollectionGuide.esp 237 ed   Immersive_RoL_Tweaks.esp 254 FE 34a Realm of Lorkhan Unbound Fix.esp 254 FE 34b LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 238 ee   AlternatePerspective.esp 254 FE 34c SHE_LorkhanPerspective.esp 254 FE 34d Alternate Perspective - Gate to Sovngarde Edition.esp 254 FE 34e SCORN-AlternatePerspective.esp 254 FE 34f AP-SensibleGear.esp 254 FE 350 AlternatePerspective - Landscape Fix.esp 239 ef   AAA_MyAPCollectionGuide.esp 254 FE 351 OCW_CellSettings.esp   Edited August 6 by Jack005 grammar
Seeker999 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 @Jack005 1st, I'm no tech/script/mod genius. 2nd, I follow this thread and so have been following this convo. 3rd, when you posted your load order I was curious. Honestly, I didn't expect to see anything that got me wondering but I did. And I may be totally off-base so you won't hurt my feelings if you ignore my observations. I noticed you have Pama Prison Alternative and Devious Devices installed. My memory rang a bell so I checked the mod page for PA and saw this: Spoiler NOT Compatible (don't ask for help if you have any of these installed!) -Devious Devices and anything that Depends on Devious Devices (The mere presence of DD doesn't seem to cause immediate problems, but stuff will break if you wear DD restraints) Maybe there's a workaround I don't know about and you've installed it and I didn't see it or didn't recognize it. I use a lot of mods that require DD and I try not to go to jail so I never used this mod. It looks neat, but doesn't fit in with my other mods. Devious Devices, I can't tell from your load order, but are you using Devious Devices NG to overwrite DD? It's required for the later versions of SSE. I also noticed this 'nwsFollowerFramework.esp'. I have no idea what it is, but while I was on the PPA mod page I also noticed this. Spoiler Partially Compatible -Multi Follower mods other than EFF (i.e Nether´s, Amazing follower tweaks,...) Followers handled by those mods will be detected, but it might be required to disable certain features of these mods to prevent issues while in Prison. Use them at your own risk.  This may be a non-issue, but thought I'd mention it. My mod list isn't as extensive as yours and I get occasional freezes. More often than not it happens when I have a lot going on at once (extra npc's all doing stuff, extra large bandit camps and all my followers (14 maybe? I use EFF, btw). Different situation than yours, it seems.  Check your overhauls for compatibility. Anything you have that changes Riften or Mistveil Keep might not work well with SS++. Just like anything that changes Solitude has to be checked against LotD, for example. If you do remove a mod, you can try to clean the save and test it by entering the SS++ cell, but if it still freezes something may be too deeply baked in to the save and you'll have to start a new game and try again.  You might have to do the tedious and start a new game with virtually no mods and then add them in smaller batches. If you're interested I made a blog that might help. Once you have the basics (utilities like Fuz, JContainers, engine fixes, etc.) and Alternative Perspective installed and tested, the batch you install next should be SS++ and it's requirements.  You're probably tired of reading this, so I'll end this post by just saying, 'good luck and I hope you figure it out' 🙂 2
Hex Bolt Posted August 6 Author Posted August 6 4 hours ago, Seeker999 said: I also noticed this 'nwsFollowerFramework.esp'. I have no idea what it is... Nether's Follower Framework. That shouldn't cause crashes or freezing. 1
Seeker999 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 7 hours ago, Hex Bolt said: Nether's Follower Framework. That shouldn't cause crashes or freezing. Ah, ok. That makes sense.
Jack005 Posted August 8 Posted August 8 On 8/6/2026 at 5:53 AM, Seeker999 said: @Jack005 1st, I'm no tech/script/mod genius. 2nd, I follow this thread and so have been following this convo. 3rd, when you posted your load order I was curious. Honestly, I didn't expect to see anything that got me wondering but I did. And I may be totally off-base so you won't hurt my feelings if you ignore my observations. I noticed you have Pama Prison Alternative and Devious Devices installed. My memory rang a bell so I checked the mod page for PA and saw this:  Reveal hidden contents NOT Compatible (don't ask for help if you have any of these installed!) -Devious Devices and anything that Depends on Devious Devices (The mere presence of DD doesn't seem to cause immediate problems, but stuff will break if you wear DD restraints) Maybe there's a workaround I don't know about and you've installed it and I didn't see it or didn't recognize it. I use a lot of mods that require DD and I try not to go to jail so I never used this mod. It looks neat, but doesn't fit in with my other mods. Devious Devices, I can't tell from your load order, but are you using Devious Devices NG to overwrite DD? It's required for the later versions of SSE. I also noticed this 'nwsFollowerFramework.esp'. I have no idea what it is, but while I was on the PPA mod page I also noticed this.  Reveal hidden contents Partially Compatible -Multi Follower mods other than EFF (i.e Nether´s, Amazing follower tweaks,...) Followers handled by those mods will be detected, but it might be required to disable certain features of these mods to prevent issues while in Prison. Use them at your own risk.  This may be a non-issue, but thought I'd mention it.  My mod list isn't as extensive as yours and I get occasional freezes. More often than not it happens when I have a lot going on at once (extra npc's all doing stuff, extra large bandit camps and all my followers (14 maybe? I use EFF, btw). Different situation than yours, it seems.  Check your overhauls for compatibility. Anything you have that changes Riften or Mistveil Keep might not work well with SS++. Just like anything that changes Solitude has to be checked against LotD, for example. If you do remove a mod, you can try to clean the save and test it by entering the SS++ cell, but if it still freezes something may be too deeply baked in to the save and you'll have to start a new game and try again.  You might have to do the tedious and start a new game with virtually no mods and then add them in smaller batches. If you're interested I made a blog that might help. Once you have the basics (utilities like Fuz, JContainers, engine fixes, etc.) and Alternative Perspective installed and tested, the batch you install next should be SS++ and it's requirements.  You're probably tired of reading this, so I'll end this post by just saying, 'good luck and I hope you figure it out' 🙂 Dont worry anything could potencialy help, but at this point I losing completly my faith on my setup, as for DD and prison alternative not being compatible is true and false, if you get to prison full of DD or at least a collar from DD it could potencially affect scripts from that mod or just messup certain scenes but nop no freezing but CTD and that is most what pontencialy do, also I almost never go to prision I either disapear or pay my fine, sometime the Orchist bounty hunter got me but if I have some DD equipment I just unequip them with the mcm, also as Hex said NFF wont do anything if I dont have follower following me, but again thanks for trying, 1
jfraser Posted August 9 Posted August 9 On 8/7/2026 at 11:41 PM, Jack005 said: Dont worry anything could potencialy help, but at this point I losing completly my faith on my setup, as for DD and prison alternative not being compatible is true and false, if you get to prison full of DD or at least a collar from DD it could potencially affect scripts from that mod or just messup certain scenes but nop no freezing but CTD and that is most what pontencialy do, also I almost never go to prision I either disapear or pay my fine, sometime the Orchist bounty hunter got me but if I have some DD equipment I just unequip them with the mcm, also as Hex said NFF wont do anything if I dont have follower following me, but again thanks for trying,  These problems happen even when you start a brand new game, right? Not a save after you added, subtracted, or updated mods.
Jack005 Posted Tuesday at 01:08 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:08 AM On 8/9/2026 at 12:02 PM, jfraser said: Â These problems happen even when you start a brand new game, right? Not a save after you added, subtracted, or updated mods. Yep, I've tried everything at this point, I even using a collection just to be sure is not a mod from nexus, when I was sure that haven't had freezes with any of the mods from that collection, started adding from LL, everything worked until I reach to slavery mods, when starting freezing I went back to a save I didn't have the new batch, I even let some of the slavery mods (forgot to disable them) and it kept working without freezing, but when installing ss++, lola, Public W, devious cidhna, game start to get freezes much later on but is almost certainty, I seen it in a lot of testing, I even tried not using the pw, lola, and cidhna just too see if one of those maybe doing it, and not, and I know it doesn't make any sense from the technical point of view, ss++ only works as a bridge to those mods, and if was like a mesh or texture it should only affects the auction cell and place where the posters are, because of this, is that I think it maybe be something to do with my setup, maybe is working to the point that the CPU overworks by the graphics of my GPU and overscripted game and end up freezing so I need a cpu that supports my GPU to the fullest and don't make bottleneck
Spelltan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago As of late, I cannot get this mod to work anymore. I can get to the auction, but the auction does not start. I talk to the slavemaster, the Simple Slavery quest will start, but the auction will not. Setstage does nothing as well.
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