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Hello! I'm relatively new to the modding scene for Skyrim and I have been experiencing some issues with the game freezing/crashing at what appears to be random. I've been using Vortex to manage all my mods, both from NMM and LL. It points out a lot of the issues that come up during deployment such as missing masters of conflicts but I think I'm missing something. If anyone has the time and patience, could you take a look at my mod load order and see if it checks out? 

 

# Automatically generated by Vortex

  1. Skyrim.esm
  2. Update.esm
  3. Dawnguard.esm
  4. HearthFires.esm
  5. Dragonborn.esm
  6. Heels Sound.esm
  7. SexLab.esm
  8. SexLabAroused.esm
  9. CreatureFramework.esm
  10. FoxPalace_X.esm
  11. Evil Lair of Hydra.esm
  12. FoxHome_X.esm
  13. hdtHighHeel.esm
  14. EFFCore.esm
  15. ApachiiHair.esm
  16. ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  17. Adhesive bandage.esp
  18. [NIND] CBBE Slooty D.va Suit.esp
  19. succubus yy edit.esp
  20. [COCO]KDA_Ahri_Full.esp
  21. [COCO]LaceBody.esp
  22. [COCO]KDA Kaisa.esp
  23. [COCO]Student Uniform.esp
  24. [COCO]wedding_2B.esp
  25. TemptressVixen.esp
  26. My Home Is Your Home.esp
  27. SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp
  28. SLALAnimObj.esp
  29. nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp
  30. SLAL_K4Anims.esp
  31. SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
  32. HentaiCreatures.esp
  33. MoreNastyCritters.esp
  34. SexLabTools.esp
  35. UIExtensions.esp
  36. SLAnimLoader.esp
  37. SharonFollower.esp
  38. ZeilaFollower.esp
  39. VerisFollower.esp
  40. Slave Outfit.esp
  41. zgcnerdy.esp
  42. 42Re Aki Set.esp
  43. SPB_EHBunny.esp
  44. LeatherThiefArmor.esp
  45. HyperNurse.esp
  46. fox40 Armor.esp
  47. fox49 Armor.esp
  48. HeavyMetal.esp
  49. HeavyMetalNoTail.esp
  50. RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
  51. TreestumpConversions.esp
  52. Milker Movil Armor.esp
  53. NIND-RedHalterneckOpenBra CBBE.esp
  54. [NIND]Twofa's StringBra.esp
  55. [NIND] CBBE Milk Girl.esp
  56. Aradia Leather Armour NIND.esp
  57. NIND-Arsenic Slave Outfit.esp
  58. BBD_Nova.esp
  59. SED7-CBBE3-BM_GOLDEDITION_NipplePiercing_Rings.esp
  60. SED7-CBBE3-BM_SILVEREDITION_NipplePiercing_Rings.esp
  61. SED7-CBBE3-BM_UNIEDITION_Nipplewand.esp
  62. SED7-CBBE3_GOLDEDITION_Barbell.esp
  63. SED7-CBBE3_GOLDEDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp
  64. SED7-CBBE3_SILVEREDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp
  65. SED7-CBBE3_UNIEDITIONfemaleNipplePiercing_SwordNShield.esp
  66. Scarlett Follower.esp
  67. Rosie Follower.esp
  68. Cher.esp
  69. No5F.esp
  70. Nami.esp
  71. Liliane.esp
  72. Stella.esp
  73. Overknee_Kassia.esp
  74. JadeFollower.esp
  75. Gatti14Yumiko.esp
  76. [TheDaedricDoll] RitualWrappings.esp
  77. AlynShirArmor.esp
  78. AddItemMenuLE.esp
  79. NPR Lingerie Sets.esp
  80. Amame_follower.esp
  81. AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
  82. Magni Follower.esp
  83. ChihakoFollower.esp
  84. Farah.esp
  85. FollowerCiceria.esp
  86. FollowerSha.esp
  87. UnoFollower2.esp
  88. LenkaFollower.esp
  89. SineadFollower.esp
  90. Francesca.esp
  91. CanCho_YunsolFollower.esp
  92. Honoka Pasties.esp
  93. IsabellaFollower.esp
  94. [NIND] CBBE Aradia Old Harness.esp
  95. zzEstrus.esp
  96. ZazResources.esp
  97. RaceMenu.esp
  98. RaceMenuPlugin.esp
  99. RV markers.esp
  100. EFFDialogue.esp
  101. SkyUI.esp
  102. Haru Bondage.esp
  103. SOSRaceMenu.esp
  104. XPMSE.esp
  105. [NIND] CBBE Tentacle Parasite.esp
  106. FNIS.esp
  107. Akari.esp
  108. [NIND] CBBE 55accessory.esp
  109. wuyi-NIND.esp
  110. WMFSEllindiaFollower.esp
  111. Elisabeth.esp
  112. cxknmsl.esp
  113. Yeori Follower.esp
  114. Lyra.esp
  115. AcTN - Mirai Yamato Standalone Akaviri Follower.esp
  116. _Raxys_MulanStandaloneFollower.esp
  117. Kurumi Follower.esp
  118. Sori.esp
  119. Cole follower.esp
  120. Emma.esp
  121. ErsiliaFollower.esp
  122. Heybaby_Follower_DoMiJeong.esp
  123. zarias_restraints.esp
  124. Bashed Patch, 0.esp
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8 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

And have you done anything about that?

Yeah I've made sure all the masters have been enabled and I've tried adjusting the load order to address any conflicts that come up according to load orders I've seen in forums such as this one

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1 hour ago, FlabbyScroll said:

Yeah I've made sure all the masters have been enabled and I've tried adjusting the load order to address any conflicts that come up according to load orders I've seen in forums such as this one

Good with the masters but you should either let Vortex deal with your load order or use LOOT. Sorting by hand isn't really the best way.

 

The USLEEP patch - you will need it as many mods have it as a master.

 

You will need these:

Crash fixes
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/


SKSE Plugin Preloader
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/?


ENBoost (If you are using an ENB preset then you should already have this but it can be used without a preset).
https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost


Bethini (This will set your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini files)
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787


Load Game CTD Fix (Stops Infinite Loading Screen (ILS)
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/


The above tools will sort out your memory management and stop 99% of CTDs.

 

And you should read this:

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-basic-setup-for-modifing-skyrim-le-well-my-skyrim-got-messy-now-i-have-to-clean-it-up-so-i-thought-to-myself-why-not-start-a-blog-about-that/

 

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6 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Good with the masters but you should either let Vortex deal with your load order or use LOOT. Sorting by hand isn't really the best way.

 

The USLEEP patch - you will need it as many mods have it as a master.

 

You will need these:

Crash fixes
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/


SKSE Plugin Preloader
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/?


ENBoost (If you are using an ENB preset then you should already have this but it can be used without a preset).
https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost


Bethini (This will set your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini files)
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787


Load Game CTD Fix (Stops Infinite Loading Screen (ILS)
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/85443/


The above tools will sort out your memory management and stop 99% of CTDs.

 

And you should read this:

https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-basic-setup-for-modifing-skyrim-le-well-my-skyrim-got-messy-now-i-have-to-clean-it-up-so-i-thought-to-myself-why-not-start-a-blog-about-that/

 

I appreciate all the help! I was able to follow every step in the LL form post you shared and installed all the files but now my Skyrim is crashing as soon as it starts. I've double checked all my configs against all the configs in the post just to make sure everything matches up. 

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The pain first:

 

On 6/17/2020 at 4:45 AM, FlabbyScroll said:

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

 

On 6/17/2020 at 4:45 AM, FlabbyScroll said:

EFFCore.esm

=> 2 follower handling systems in one LO. Why?

 

On 6/17/2020 at 4:45 AM, FlabbyScroll said:

ZazResources.esp

Grab ZAP 7,8 or 8+

ZazResources is outdated.

If a mod in LO needs ZAP (ZAZ) it won't be able to find it.

 

On 6/17/2020 at 4:45 AM, FlabbyScroll said:

nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp

make sure you installed it correct in combination with meshes and textures from

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/80201/? - meshes and textures folders from HAnimations mod => install not the whole mod if you only want the animations
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/81267/? - meshes and textures folders from TropicalIsland mod => install not the whole mod if you only want the animations

 

Do you still start Skyrim with the vanilla start?! ? Grab an alternative game start mod like LAL, because you will have to start a new game often until you got everything sorted out.

 

USLEEP was already mentioned, you want that!

 

On 6/17/2020 at 4:45 AM, FlabbyScroll said:

Milker Movil Armor.esp

you sure it is installed correctly?

I call it an experimental mod you can use after you know your setup works.

 

On 6/17/2020 at 4:45 AM, FlabbyScroll said:

FoxPalace_X.esm

 

On 6/17/2020 at 4:45 AM, FlabbyScroll said:

FoxHome_X.esm

 

On 6/17/2020 at 4:45 AM, FlabbyScroll said:

Evil Lair of Hydra.esm

use those only after you have a stable setup.

Those can mess up your game depending on your setup.

They are in the category experimental.

 

 

If you have issues with creatures, change positions for MNC SLAL related mods according to the suggested LO on the MNC SLAL page.

 

If you changed already something on the LO, post your actual one

Post FNIS output (copy + paste from the FNIS generator), maybe it gives some clues too.

 

I hope you have a source for HDT-PE for mods like the installed Milker

 

tell me Lestat is wrong and you didn't forgot to install SOS o.o

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Thanks for all the responses guys! I followed all of your suggestions and it seems like my game is stable for now. I haven't had a chance to test the stability extensively but I can tell it's more robust than before. 

 

11 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

=> 2 follower handling systems in one LO. Why?

 

 

Lol that's a good question. I got rid of Amazing Followers

 

11 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

Grab ZAP 7,8 or 8+

ZazResources is outdated.

If a mod in LO needs ZAP (ZAZ) it won't be able to find it.

I got rid of Zaz and enabled ZAP

 

12 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

make sure you installed it correct in combination with meshes and textures from

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/80201/? - meshes and textures folders from HAnimations mod => install not the whole mod if you only want the animations
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/81267/? - meshes and textures folders from TropicalIsland mod => install not the whole mod if you only want the animations

 

Do you still start Skyrim with the vanilla start?! ? Grab an alternative game start mod like LAL, because you will have to start a new game often until you got everything sorted out.

 

USLEEP was already mentioned, you want that!

Reinstalled the animation pack, enabled an alternative start and ran USLEEP for each plugin in TES5 edit

 

12 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

use those only after you have a stable setup.

Those can mess up your game depending on your setup.

They are in the category experimental.

I disabled those plugins for now until I know with certainty that my game is stable

 

12 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

tell me Lestat is wrong and you didn't forgot to install SOS o.o

Haha I think I might've missed that install. Are you referring to Schlongs of Skyrim? If so, I just installed and enabled it. 

 

12 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

Post FNIS output (copy + paste from the FNIS generator), maybe it gives some clues too.

Heree's the FNIS output

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FNIS Behavior V7.6   6/18/2020 11:50:39 AM
Skyrim 32bit: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (126 bones)
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"  

Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ... 
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ... 
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... 
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ... 
Reading AnimationsByMike24 V1.0 ... 
Reading FNISBase V7.6 ... 
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V6.1 ... 
Reading FunnyBizAmp V8.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizFC V10.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizGuro V5.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ... 
Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... 
Reading GS_SLAL V1.0 ... 
Reading K4Anims V1.0 ... 
Reading milkypack V1.0 ... 
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... 
Reading nazonootoko V1.0 ... 
Reading nazonootokoTI V1.0 ... 
Reading SexLab V1.62 ... 
Reading SexLabAroused V?.? ... 
Reading SexLabCreature V1.61 ... 
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ... 
Reading znarokspack V1.0 ... 
Reading zzEstrus V2.50 ... 

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
Alternate Animation mods: 2 sets: 20 total groups: 38 added file slots: 222 alternate files: 176

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFC V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.62 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...
Reading K4Anims V?.? ...
Reading GS_SLAL V1.0 ...

 7322 animations for 34 mods successfully included (character)

 1684 animations for 7 mods and 38 creatures successfully included.

 

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Just now, FlabbyScroll said:

Heree's the FNIS output

Use Consistence Check for highlight any errors and / or deficiencies . 

 

Just now, FlabbyScroll said:

Reading nazonootoko V1.0 ... 
Reading nazonootokoTI V1.0 ... 

HAnimations

Required for Nazoonotoko  , missing? When install , open HAnimation . ini and change this string 

 

fBoobsSizeMagnitude=2.00           
iMaxBoobsStress=0      set this valor to 0    (Default 1 )   this precaution prevents your female from having exaggeratedly huge boobs at the first fight. This occurs every time the game is loaded          
bSoulegemAnimAlways=1             

 

 

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