How do you poison the undead?

[Darkpig]

I created a poison that is designed only to work on the undead but despite not working on anybody else it also doesn't work on the undead. I made it via the creation kit and I don't know how to nullify their poison immunity. What must I do to accomplish this this?

 

Well technically I made it with x-edit but whatevs

[Husky1o1]

15 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

despite not working on anybody else it also doesn't work on the undead

This is actually quite funny ... ? ... sorry

[Grey Cloud]

26 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

but despite not working on anybody else it also doesn't work on the undead

Not really a poison then, is it? More of a potion of harmlessness. ☹️

[Darkpig]

13 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Not really a poison then, is it? More of a potion of harmlessness. ☹️

Pretty much. Given it is made of silver you would think it would do something to the undead. Thankfully I got it to work on the draugr but skeletons still resist somehow. It is like they got no vital organs or somethin. Guess I should show a few pictures of what I'm brewing. Well the stats anyway.

Spoiler

 

Now about those skeletons...?

[Tyrant99]

If you want to poison skeletons, try adding radium.

[Darkpig]

My sleep died for your sins!

 

well okay they were my sins but okay

 

I have no idea what I'm talking about and you're a panini.

Silver Poison.zip

 

I'm going to bed. My bed is a panini.

[FauxFurry]

You're not supposed to be able to. They have no circulation and no working organs. It would make more sense to embalm them than poison them. Increased fire damage is the logical trade-off. 

[Darkpig]

2 hours ago, FauxFurry said:

You're not supposed to be able to. They have no circulation and no working organs. It would make more sense to embalm them than poison them. Increased fire damage is the logical trade-off. 

Ah but what holds them together?

[FauxFurry]

8 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

Ah but what holds them together?

Ligaments, skin, a skeletal system, bandages, hopes and prayers (and magic).

[Darkpig]

50 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

Ligaments, skin, a skeletal system, bandages, hopes and prayers (and magic).

Wrong! Superglue.

 

But I am playing by the supernatural here so yes magic is an acceptable answer. And ligaments and skin and a skeleton system and actually you're totally right. I don't know what I was thinking.

 

[Grey Cloud]

I've just remembered that I have a 'lingering damage undead' potion in my alchemy crafting menu. Is that different from what you are trying to do?

[worik]

28 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

I've just remembered that I have a 'lingering damage undead' potion in my alchemy crafting menu.

? Indeed, that rings a bell.

Though I have no idea which mods adds that without loading the whole lot into T5E and search for it.

[Grey Cloud]

30 minutes ago, worik said:

Though I have no idea which mods adds that without loading the whole lot into T5E and search for it.

Possibly CACO? I have no idea where to look in the esp.

 

EDIT: Found the rascal. It is CACO

Form ID 0010DE5E

 

[worik]

53 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

CACO

? That's not in my main load order , but I would guess that idea was picked up in another mod, too. Or the other way around.

[Darkpig]

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

EDIT: Found the rascal. It is CACO

Form ID 0010DE5E

I tried replicating what CACO did and it was a royal pain in the ass I must say. Not only did kryptopyr change the way poison resistances work for ghosts, skeletons, draugr, and vampires they also edited every other poison in the whole dammed game just to bypass their stupid poison resistances ?.

 

Good news is that it worked. I should consider buffing the damage of silver weapons cause those are pathetic. What were the ways of dealing with undead with the previous Elder Scrolls?

[Fotogen]

5 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

What were the ways of dealing with undead with the previous Elder Scrolls?

IIRC, some, but not all undead had resistance vs so called "normal" weapons.

 

"Normal" weapon was any weapon that was made of material cheaper then silver(iron, steel basicaly) or it did not have magical enchantement.

 

You didn't do more damage, you'd just bypass damage resistance.

 

[Grey Cloud]

4 hours ago, worik said:

That's not in my main load order ,

That sounds profiley.

[worik]

3 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

That sounds profiley.

Spoiler

various

 

[worik]

3 hours ago, Darkpig said:

What were the ways of dealing with undead with the previous Elder Scrolls?

"Silver" is the classical fantasy world answer to undead creatures ?

[Darkpig]

On 6/12/2020 at 10:38 AM, Fotogen said:

IIRC, some, but not all undead had resistance vs so called "normal" weapons.

 

"Normal" weapon was any weapon that was made of material cheaper then silver(iron, steel basicaly) or it did not have magical enchantement.

 

You didn't do more damage, you'd just bypass damage resistance.

 

So bigger guns are better huh. Can't say I agree or disagree with that approach.

 

Not to go completely off topic but why do draugr have flashlight eyes? Like any in lore reason?

[FauxFurry]

On 6/12/2020 at 11:27 AM, Darkpig said:

I tried replicating what CACO did and it was a royal pain in the ass I must say. Not only did kryptopyr change the way poison resistances work for ghosts, skeletons, draugr, and vampires they also edited every other poison in the whole dammed game just to bypass their stupid poison resistances ?.

 

Good news is that it worked. I should consider buffing the damage of silver weapons cause those are pathetic. What were the ways of dealing with undead with the previous Elder Scrolls?

Enchanted weapons, silver weapons and offensive magic unless one earned a special skill which allowed one to actually harm the undead, including ghosts, with one's bare hands.

[Darkpig]

2 hours ago, FauxFurry said:

Enchanted weapons, silver weapons and offensive magic unless one earned a special skill which allowed one to actually harm the undead, including ghosts, with one's bare hands.

You have a skill that gives you bear hands? Sweet.