DidiDovah Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 i recently had an issue with DCL CTD on save load (managed to fix that by getting the XXL version of FNIS) but it still won't load in MCM Here is my Load Order & a Papyrus Log I have also tried Jaxonz MCM Kicker & the setstage command but both proved unfruitful if anyone can help it would be really appreciated Papyrus.0.log Load Order.txt
donttouchmethere Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, DidiDovah said: I have also tried Jaxonz MCM Kicker & the setstage command but both proved unfruitful If you need to use the MCM Kicker this usually means there are already issues with the Setup. Are other MCMs not showing up? This also might be an LO issue, for example SkyUI is below UIextension an way to far down in LO. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Falskaar.esm 7 7 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 9 9 ApachiiHairMales.esm 10 a ApachiiHair.esm 11 b ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 12 c RaceCompatibility.esm 13 d hdtHighHeel.esm 14 e SGHairPackBase.esm 15 f SexLab.esm 16 10 SexLabAroused.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 20 14 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 21 15 Android Suit.esp 22 16 Extra Daedric Artifacts.esp 23 17 RendingDagger.esp 24 18 EiriesOhmesRaht.esp 25 19 HeaterShield.esp 26 1a UIExtensions.esp 27 1b AddItemMenuLE.esp 28 1c 12FemaleBrows.esp 29 1d SexLab Strapon.esp 30 1e AncientDraugr.esp 31 1f Bandanas of Skyrim.esp 32 20 BazoongasWorkShop_AfterSchool.esp 33 21 BikiniAscendVolume1.esp 34 22 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 35 23 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 36 24 Folkstead.esp 37 25 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 38 26 Undeath.esp 39 27 lichperk.esp 40 28 SoS - The Wilds.esp 41 29 SoS - Civilization.esp 42 2a Blaze Of Eventide.esp 43 2b RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 44 2c HDT Maid Outfit.esp 45 2d HDT Maid Outfit Slot Change.esp 46 2e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 47 2f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp 49 31 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 50 32 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 51 33 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 52 34 SoS - The Dungeons.esp 53 35 ELFX - Weathers.esp 54 36 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 55 37 Cloaks.esp SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp 56 38 SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp SoS - Civilization-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp 57 39 SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp 58 3a Black Widow Outfit.esp 59 3b DX Witch Hunter Armor.esp 60 3c SkyUI.esp 61 3d Dual Sheath Redux.esp 62 3e FNISSexyMove.esp 63 3f FaraamOutfit.esp 64 40 Faraam Shield.esp 65 41 FNIS.esp 66 42 _GSPoses.esp 67 43 IridumEyes2.0.esp 68 44 Jinxxed Followers - Hinata Hyuga.esp 69 45 Hunting Bow.esp 70 46 Brows.esp 71 47 Immersive Weapons.esp 72 48 JaxonzRenamer.esp 73 49 KS Hairdo's.esp 74 4a Lucrezia_Navarre_Robe.esp 75 4b MikanEyes All in one.esp 76 4c Nightingale Dagger.esp 77 4d No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp 78 4e InigoPerkPointGiver.esp 79 4f RaceMenu.esp 80 50 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 81 51 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp 82 52 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 83 53 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 84 54 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp 85 55 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp 86 56 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp 87 57 RogueCoutureMashup.esp 88 58 SGHairPackAIO.esp 89 59 SVBeards.esp 90 5a SadisticMagicianMashup.esp 91 5b SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp 92 5c SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp 93 5d SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp TemplarLongsword.esp CF Project-Toothpick.esp Tracer Skyrim.esp Wayfinder.esp Widowmaker Suit.esp 94 5e XPMSE.esp [COCO]mermaid.esp 95 5f Kpop armor.esp 96 60 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 97 61 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp KTIS.esp 98 62 Immersive Patrols II.esp 99 63 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp 100 64 SMIM-RiftenDocksRopesObjectFix.esp Short Bows.esp 101 65 SMIM-SolitudeDocksFixes.esp 102 66 TemptressVixen.esp 103 67 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Tirashan.esp 104 68 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp isilNarsil.esp Witch Battle Armor.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 105 69 Field Alchemy.esp 106 6a SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp 107 6b SchoolgirlOutfit.esp 108 6c Slooty Vault Jumpsuit.esp 109 6d TheEyesOfBeauty.esp SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp 110 6e SexLabMatchMaker.esp 111 6f SexLabTools.esp 112 70 SlaveTats.esp 113 71 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 114 72 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 115 73 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp MTemplarShields.esp 116 74 SpikeBallOutfit.esp TentacleEnt.esp 117 75 JaxonzMCMKicker.esp 118 76 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 119 77 ELFXEnhancer.esp 120 78 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp XPMSE already includes Realistic Ragdoll and Force If you want to overwrite it with another setting you're doing it wrong: Only one would make sense 81 51 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp 82 52 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 83 53 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 84 54 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp Do you use any Bodyslide-able body like UUNP or CBBE This would already be needed to use DDs right. Then there is the chance that installation went wrong of DCL or one of it's requirements. If you added DCL on a running game check if a new game sloves the MCM issue.
Grey Cloud Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, DidiDovah said: i recently had an issue with DCL CTD on save load (managed to fix that by getting the XXL version of FNIS) That was too many animations not DCL as such. 1
DidiDovah Posted April 1, 2020 Author Posted April 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: If you need to use the MCM Kicker this usually means there are already issues with the Setup. Are other MCMs not showing up? This also might be an LO issue, for example SkyUI is below UIextension an way to far down in LO. Hide contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Falskaar.esm 7 7 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 9 9 ApachiiHairMales.esm 10 a ApachiiHair.esm 11 b ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 12 c RaceCompatibility.esm 13 d hdtHighHeel.esm 14 e SGHairPackBase.esm 15 f SexLab.esm 16 10 SexLabAroused.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 20 14 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 21 15 Android Suit.esp 22 16 Extra Daedric Artifacts.esp 23 17 RendingDagger.esp 24 18 EiriesOhmesRaht.esp 25 19 HeaterShield.esp 26 1a UIExtensions.esp 27 1b AddItemMenuLE.esp 28 1c 12FemaleBrows.esp 29 1d SexLab Strapon.esp 30 1e AncientDraugr.esp 31 1f Bandanas of Skyrim.esp 32 20 BazoongasWorkShop_AfterSchool.esp 33 21 BikiniAscendVolume1.esp 34 22 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 35 23 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 36 24 Folkstead.esp 37 25 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 38 26 Undeath.esp 39 27 lichperk.esp 40 28 SoS - The Wilds.esp 41 29 SoS - Civilization.esp 42 2a Blaze Of Eventide.esp 43 2b RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 44 2c HDT Maid Outfit.esp 45 2d HDT Maid Outfit Slot Change.esp 46 2e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 47 2f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp 49 31 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 50 32 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 51 33 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 52 34 SoS - The Dungeons.esp 53 35 ELFX - Weathers.esp 54 36 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 55 37 Cloaks.esp SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp 56 38 SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp SoS - Civilization-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp 57 39 SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp 58 3a Black Widow Outfit.esp 59 3b DX Witch Hunter Armor.esp 60 3c SkyUI.esp 61 3d Dual Sheath Redux.esp 62 3e FNISSexyMove.esp 63 3f FaraamOutfit.esp 64 40 Faraam Shield.esp 65 41 FNIS.esp 66 42 _GSPoses.esp 67 43 IridumEyes2.0.esp 68 44 Jinxxed Followers - Hinata Hyuga.esp 69 45 Hunting Bow.esp 70 46 Brows.esp 71 47 Immersive Weapons.esp 72 48 JaxonzRenamer.esp 73 49 KS Hairdo's.esp 74 4a Lucrezia_Navarre_Robe.esp 75 4b MikanEyes All in one.esp 76 4c Nightingale Dagger.esp 77 4d No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp 78 4e InigoPerkPointGiver.esp 79 4f RaceMenu.esp 80 50 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 81 51 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp 82 52 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 83 53 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 84 54 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp 85 55 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp 86 56 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp 87 57 RogueCoutureMashup.esp 88 58 SGHairPackAIO.esp 89 59 SVBeards.esp 90 5a SadisticMagicianMashup.esp 91 5b SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp 92 5c SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp 93 5d SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp TemplarLongsword.esp CF Project-Toothpick.esp Tracer Skyrim.esp Wayfinder.esp Widowmaker Suit.esp 94 5e XPMSE.esp [COCO]mermaid.esp 95 5f Kpop armor.esp 96 60 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 97 61 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp KTIS.esp 98 62 Immersive Patrols II.esp 99 63 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp 100 64 SMIM-RiftenDocksRopesObjectFix.esp Short Bows.esp 101 65 SMIM-SolitudeDocksFixes.esp 102 66 TemptressVixen.esp 103 67 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Tirashan.esp 104 68 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp isilNarsil.esp Witch Battle Armor.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 105 69 Field Alchemy.esp 106 6a SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp 107 6b SchoolgirlOutfit.esp 108 6c Slooty Vault Jumpsuit.esp 109 6d TheEyesOfBeauty.esp SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp 110 6e SexLabMatchMaker.esp 111 6f SexLabTools.esp 112 70 SlaveTats.esp 113 71 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 114 72 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 115 73 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp MTemplarShields.esp 116 74 SpikeBallOutfit.esp TentacleEnt.esp 117 75 JaxonzMCMKicker.esp 118 76 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 119 77 ELFXEnhancer.esp 120 78 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp XPMSE already includes Realistic Ragdoll and Force If you want to overwrite it with another setting you're doing it wrong: Only one would make sense 81 51 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp 82 52 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 83 53 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 84 54 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp Do you use any Bodyslide-able body like UUNP or CBBE This would already be needed to use DDs right. Then there is the chance that installation went wrong of DCL or one of it's requirements. If you added DCL on a running game check if a new game sloves the MCM issue. i have a correct bodyslide body (because the other DD mods work fine) i'll remove the dBs and i'll move SkyUI up in the LO
DidiDovah Posted April 1, 2020 Author Posted April 1, 2020 Also if it is my Load order can you maybe give me a general idea on how to fix it (LOOT won't do it because the one i posted was made by LOOT)
donttouchmethere Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 9 hours ago, DidiDovah said: Also if it is my Load order can you maybe give me a general idea on how to fix it (LOOT won't do it because the one i posted was made by LOOT) First make sure that your base setup is right: > What Modmanager do you use? I see a lot of deactivated mods in your LO. Did you just deactivate the esp? If so, uninstall what is not needed. Mods with deactivated esp still have files installed that could be read by Skyrim with unknown effect. If you use NMM: uninstall is better than just deactivate > make sure that the download of DCL worked and that it is installed right > check if you have those installed: Mods to install: PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions overwrite all ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it ⚠️some mods come with older versions, don't let them overwrite the newer version! SLF Simply Knock Campfire JContainers overwrite all ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it Requirement for MNC Requirement for Creature Framework ConsoleUtil overwrite all ⚠️never let any mod overwrite it Needed for: Inte's SUM (Skyrim Utility Mod) DDi black fog blindfold effect (activatable in DDi MCM) NFF (Nether's Follower Framework) > DCL MCM should show up right after all mods are loaded on a new game in LAL. You will have to experiment until it shows up there. As long as it doesn't something is wrong with one of the points I posted above > Does your FNIS output shows any errors? > check if you have Fus Ro D'oh and HDT Physics Extensions (if you use AIO-P for your body setup you don't need to install it => looking at your LO I'm sure you have AIO-P installed ^^) Also helpful in addition to a working LL base setup is a working "nexus " setup, like having the right patches and no conflicting mods installed. Badly installed mods can also prevent mods to load right. It's also good to know why you install your mods and read descriptions. Example: You're using multiple weather mods. Some have compatibility patches, if not don't install them together like: ELFX weather + any other weather mod => choose only one
donttouchmethere Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 I don't see any other mods in your LO that connects to devious devices other than DCL. I think you can try and move DCL close to the end of your LO.
donttouchmethere Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Also if you use NMM there is a chance that a huge mod like DCL wasn't installed right if you installed NMM and/or skyrim in C:/pogram files. Give NMM admin rights and uninstall/install DCL again.
DidiDovah Posted April 2, 2020 Author Posted April 2, 2020 5 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: Also if you use NMM there is a chance that a huge mod like DCL wasn't installed right if you installed NMM and/or skyrim in C:/pogram files. Give NMM admin rights and uninstall/install DCL again. I use MO2 and i did not have ConsoleUtil installed but it still wouldn't show up (i have the rest installed) and most deactivated mods are from patches and come installed with the mod so i can only disable those Also does DCL Load after you leave the the Abandoned Prison?
donttouchmethere Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 22 minutes ago, DidiDovah said: I use MO2 and i did not have ConsoleUtil installed but it still wouldn't show up (i have the rest installed) and most deactivated mods are from patches and come installed with the mod so i can only disable those I also doubt that a missing ConsoleUtil would mess up the start of DCL. I don't know exactly what you could possible do wrong with MO2 to cause DCL not to show up. MO is great to create new Profiles, so you could try to create a new one with only the requirements for DCL installed to see if the MCM would show up in that configuration. If it does you know that something within your actual LO does conflict with DCL. Only other alternative would be to deactivate mods in your actual LO until DEC shows up to find a possible conflict or defect mod that prevents DCL to run properly. I just don't see anything in your LO that would conflict with DCL. Maybe something in your left plane without esp does cause issues? You could also check if all your mods are up-to-date.
donttouchmethere Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 Another thing you could check: Mods without esp and SKSE plugins and forgotten patches for mods you don't have installed anymore. Check if you have mods installed like: > anything with Quickloot or automatic looting > anything that changes how containers work ingame (containers = chests, barrels, but also corpses) you get a lot of warnings from in your Papyrus from: > DCL = might not be installed right or downloaded file was broken > NecroTrackingQuestSCRIPT.psc something messes around with the dead? Also this could break DCL: > child related mods about death and sex Something you installed manually to skyrim/data and forgot
donttouchmethere Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 From the papyrus file I would guess your DCL installation is totally borked. Download it again and check during installation if the FOMOD works properly. Test DCL only on new games.
donttouchmethere Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 38 minutes ago, DidiDovah said: Also does DCL Load after you leave the the Abandoned Prison? DCL MCM should show up in LAL already. Do at least one save/reload cycle in LAL, because DDi updates only after you save reloaded at least once. Only after Sexlab is active and DDi is updated start to change the DCL settings.
DidiDovah Posted April 2, 2020 Author Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said: From the papyrus file I would guess your DCL installation is totally borked. Download it again and check during installation if the FOMOD works properly. Test DCL only on new games. Downloaded it again still doesn't work
b4ben_69 Posted February 13, 2022 Posted February 13, 2022 I had the same problem, the mod did not show in MCM, I found that my Papyrus Util was being overwritten by Sexlab and campfire. By placing it after both mods, it fixed the menu on new games. Is there a way to reinstall manually the scrips from a game that is already well advanced?
donttouchmethere Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/13/2022 at 6:23 AM, b4ben_69 said: I had the same problem, the mod did not show in MCM, I found that my Papyrus Util was being overwritten by Sexlab and campfire. By placing it after both mods, it fixed the menu on new games. Is there a way to reinstall manually the scrips from a game that is already well advanced? You played a defect game for that long ? I would uninstall all mods that fail to load their MCM > create a clean save > reinstall all the failed mods > hope for the best
Guest Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 9:23 PM, b4ben_69 said: I had the same problem, the mod did not show in MCM, I found that my Papyrus Util was being overwritten by Sexlab and campfire. By placing it after both mods, it fixed the menu on new games. Is there a way to reinstall manually the scrips from a game that is already well advanced? Papyrus, Sexlab and XP32 should be the last mods in your mod load order. I do not think it matters if sexlab first or papyrus. Depending what mod manager you are using, you can reinstall a mod that is already installed. I never really had problems with Kimi's mods. They usually load all on time. Just my thoughts.
donttouchmethere Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, wutpickel said: XP32 should be the last mods in your mod load order unless MNC is installed or you mean the MO mod list (left plane) 1
donttouchmethere Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, wutpickel said: I do not think it matters if sexlab first or papyrus. PapyrusUTIL should overwrite everything even SL. PapyrusUtil shouldn't show up in LO, unless you mean the Mod List of MO (left plane) 2
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