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corvusbray

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I do not have the technical know how to comprehend what any of this means. Can someone translate this to layman's English please? I am crashing every ten to twenty minutes during game play. I have no other errors. All textures are working. The mods are working withing acceptable parameters. I am aware there is a little bit of confliction based on NPC reactions to some of my decisions, but I do not know what those are specifically. I included the dump file as well. The readme post sends me to an online source that has shut down and the windows tools won't launch. Thank you in advance.

Papyrus.0.log Papyrus.1.log loadorder.txt 2020-02-01_20.45.13.dmp

donttouchmethere

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First make sure it's not a memory issue:

Use at least a SKSE.INI (check if you have one)

additional it helps to use:

> ENBoost

> CrashFixes

=> more in my blog if you have no clue yet what that all means.

 

If you crash that regularly after load it could me:

> memory issue (my first guess)

 

> bad LO

> conflict

> missing patch

> bad mod or mod configuration

=> this can be only right if some mods trigger something in the background regularly that fails

 

My thoughts after seeing your LO:

Spoiler

 0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     Devious Devices - Assets.esm => would move it down to the other DD esm
  8  8     ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
  9  9     SexLabAroused.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     Campfire.esm =>  make sure you didn't overwrite your PapyrusUtil 3.3 installation
 12  c     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 13  d     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 14  e     ZaZAnimationPack.esm => would move it above all DD esm
 15  f     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 16 10     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 17 11     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 18 12     Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
 19 13     SexLabDefeat.esp => your using more than one defeat mod, careful with conflicts. Might be also the cause of your CTD if NPCs get defeated in the background. Use only one defeat mod and play around with MCM settings if you get CTD is SLdefeat secenes are running. Also check for patches.
 20 14     mslDeviousCaptures.esp
 21 15     Deviously Enslaved.esp => would move that below all other follower/devious mods
 22 16     DeviouslyHelpless.esp
 23 17     ETaC - Complete.esp
 24 18     UNP - Fence Net Body Set.esp
 25 19     LinkleOutfit.esp
 26 1a     LindsSpellslinger.esp
 27 1b     Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
 28 1c     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
 29 1d     Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
 30 1e     Immersive Whiterun.esp
 31 1f     Immersive Solstheim.esp
 32 20     PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
 33 21     PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
 34 22     PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
 35 23     PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
 36 24     PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
           Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
 37 25     SexLabNudeCreatures.esp => remove if you use newest MNC SLAL
 38 26     SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp => remove if you use newest MNC SLAL
 39 27     SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp => remove if you use newest MNC SLAL
 40 28     HentaiCreatures.esp
 41 29     SexLab More Creatures.esp => check if patch is needed with newest MNC SLAL
 42 2a     PetCollar.esp
           Cloaks.esp
 43 2b     Run For Your Lives.esp
 44 2c     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 45 2d     xazPrisonOverhaul.esp => if you don't use a very old POP version, you need also SUM and DDe by Inte in combination with DD
 46 2e     ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
 47 2f     Frostfall.esp
 48 30     DeviousFollowers.esp => there is a newer versin called DFContinued out there, if you use it, move it below follower frameworks
 49 31     DeadlyMutilation.esp
 50 32     IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp
 51 33     WestWindMisfit.esp
 52 34     SexLab Brawling Rape.esp
 53 35     SexLab Submit.esp => be sure it doesn't conflict with SLdefeat scenes
 54 36     Submit belt.esp
 55 37     SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
 56 38     sr_FillHerUp.esp
 57 39     SexLab Romance.esp
 58 3a     SexLabArousedAnimations.esp => where did that one came from? TDF?
 59 3b     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
           Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp
 60 3c     SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp => check if compatible with MNC SLAL
 61 3d     SexLabWerewolves.esp => check if compatible with MNC SLAL
 62 3e     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp => check out the the new tweaks for SLaC
 63 3f     MoreNastyCritters.esp => if this is the SLAL version you need to check the LO suggested by MadMansGun (MNC SLAL page)
 64 40     NusbieVoices.esp
 65 41     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 66 42     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 67 43     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
 68 44     SLAnimLoader.esp
 69 45     LiFE.esp
 70 46     XPMSE.esp
           dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp => only needed if you want to overwrite the RRF that is already included in XPMSE
           dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp => only needed if you want to overwrite the RRF that is already included in XPMSE
 71 47     SOSRaceMenu.esp
           dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp => only needed if you want to overwrite the RRF that is already included in XPMSE
           dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp => only needed if you want to overwrite the RRF that is already included in XPMSE
 72 48     FNISspells.esp => check if you have any mod in LO that even need it
 73 49     SkyUI.esp
 74 4a     FNIS.esp
 75 4b     SLALAnimObj.esp => if this is funny biz, you might have maybe too many animations installed for a stable game, check FNIS output for CTD chance (if you use newest FNIS)
 76 4c     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 77 4d     Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
 78 4e     Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

donttouchmethere

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from the logs:

> you get a lot of errors from CF, I guess it's an issue with your MNC install (I'm even pretty sure)

 

> frostfall and DEC have issues with your PC or with NPCs around you, are you playing a custom race (or werewolf I guess?)?

corvusbray

corvusbray

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Wouldn't an ENBoost put more strain on the system?
Can you link me to your blog?

I don't think it's memory, I keep that pretty well maintained. This computer is a MSI Trident Arctic.

I'm leaning toward an unknown confliction as I already took great care to ensure the proper patches were installed.

I was having some animation and trigger errors with some dogs. 

Not sure which one DEC is, but no. I am using a standard dunmer with a UNPetite morph and fair skin texture.

corvusbray

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Log 01 is a fresh save after a full CTD. Without any adjustments to mods. I need you to be a bit lighter on the acronyms man. I'm, sorry. LAL and SLF are what?

Psalam

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2 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

Log 01 is a fresh save after a full CTD. Without any adjustments to mods. I need you to be a bit lighter on the acronyms man. I'm, sorry. LAL and SLF are what?

DTMT's blog can be found by hitting the "Reveal Hidden Content" bar in his signature. The links are in there.

donttouchmethere

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4 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

Wouldn't an ENBoost put more strain on the system?

ENBoost is not an ENB.

It's just the part of an ENB that allocates vram and if activated ram.

 

5 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

I don't think it's memory, I keep that pretty well maintained. This computer is a MSI Trident Arctic.

The computer doesn't matter if it comes to memory, because Skyrim LE is limited in the amount of RAM and VRAM it uses.

SKSE.INI, ENBoost and Crashfixes help with the memory limitations of Skyrim and not of your PC

 

7 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

Can you link me to your blog?

 

8 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

I'm leaning toward an unknown confliction as I already took great care to ensure the proper patches were installed

As long as you don't mix up MNC and the new MNC SLAL version?

 

9 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

I was having some animation and trigger errors with some dogs. 

MNC and CF issue

 

9 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

Not sure which one DEC is, but no.

Deviously Enslaved Continued, it triggers NPC and Follower force greets

donttouchmethere

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8 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

I need you to be a bit lighter on the acronyms man. I'm, sorry. LAL and SLF are what?

lol sorry.

I just can't help myself with those.

Too deep in the Skyrim modding rabbit hole.

 

ASLAL or ALAL or LAL = Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

SL or SLF = SexLab.esm, Sexlab Framework

Grey Cloud

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5 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

Wouldn't an ENBoost put more strain on the system?
Can you link me to your blog?

ENBoost is not an ENB preset. It is a memory tool.

 

The link to his blog is in the signature at the bottom of his post.

 

6 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

I don't think it's memory, I keep that pretty well maintained.

What does that mean and how do it relate to Skyrim?

 

I would guess this is a memory issue but your load order is a mess.

As DTMT has said, your MNC is either an old version or you didn't uninstall the old version properly. SL Nude Creatures should not be in your load order if you are using an up to date and correctly installed MNC.

 

You were supposed to choose one of these. You don't actually need any of them as XPMSE skeleton has done ragdolling for several years now.

       dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
           dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp

         dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
           dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp

(I know they are not active. Get rid of them)

 

Did you copy that load order from somewhere? For such a short list it has quite a lot of old mods in it.

 

17 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

I'm leaning toward an unknown confliction as I already took great care to ensure the proper patches were installed.

What proper patches and what makes you think that a conflict is causing this?

Has this game ever worked?

corvusbray

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The MNC I have is his top file from the unlabled mega link. MoreNastyCritters9_3 .7z

I know how ya feel man, I work surveying and it's hard not to speak shop around clients.

For Grey Cloud, I get what you two meant now. I forgot about the games only being able to use so much. 

A lot of the posts have not actually changed in several years and I tried to find the ones that did not directly conflict with one another. With how the posts were written, it sound like they had a little overlap but not enough to cause issues.

The skeleton mod came with all of them. I have to delete the entire mod, it won't let me delete only the plugins, and when I do that, the system screams about missing mods needing to run.

I'll look for; ENBoost, Crashfixes now. 

Grey Cloud

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17 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

The skeleton mod came with all of them. I have to delete the entire mod, it won't let me delete only the plugins, and when I do that, the system screams about missing mods needing to run.

The skeleton you require is here

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/676-xp32-maximum-skeleton-special-extended-xpmsse/

 

You want the one second from the bottom of the list (of 4), i.e. not the one with the 'sse' just the 'se'

 

https://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost

 

https://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI

 

https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.10.0

 

Crash fixes
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/

 

SKSE Plugin Preloader
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75795/?

 

Also go with Load Game CTD Fix.

donttouchmethere

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4 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

about a year yeah. Some nexus mods still require that mod, or does it just whine about missing the specific file name.

Not sure what you mean.

Best to be specific what mod whines about what.

If your mods are too old for the newer frameworks you have a choice:

update EVERYTHING

or

make a retro LO and keep old mods and old frameworks to prevent missing masters or conflicts

Grey Cloud

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12 minutes ago, corvusbray said:

Some nexus mods still require that mod, or does it just whine about missing the specific file name.

 

5 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Not sure what you mean.

Best to be specific what mod whines about what.

I'm not sure either but if you mean Realistic Ragdolls, I have not used it for several years  but I cannot recall anything ever complaining about its absence. I have a couple of hundred 'Nexus' mods installed plus LL mods.

corvusbray

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Before I start rebuilding the Lovers Lab mods back in to this, am I missing anything critical from this list? I will be redoing the bashed after I put in the rest of LL.

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
  7  7     Campfire.esm
  8  8     HighResTexturePack01.esp
  9  9     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 10  a     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 11  b     Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
 12  c     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 13  d     RaceMenu.esp
 14  e     UIExtensions.esp
 15  f     ETaC - Complete.esp
 16 10     UNP - Fence Net Body Set.esp
 17 11     LinkleOutfit.esp
 18 12     LindsSpellslinger.esp
 19 13     Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
 20 14     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
 21 15     Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
 22 16     Immersive Whiterun.esp
 23 17     Immersive Solstheim.esp
 24 18     Run For Your Lives.esp
 25 19     ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
 26 1a     Frostfall.esp
 27 1b     PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
 28 1c     PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
 29 1d     PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
 30 1e     PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
 31 1f     PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
 32 20     DeadlyMutilation.esp
 33 21     WestWindMisfit.esp
 34 22     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
           Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp
 35 23     LiFE.esp
 36 24     FNISspells.esp
 37 25     SkyUI.esp
 38 26     FNIS.esp
 39 27     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 40 28     Bashed Patch, 0.esp
 

corvusbray

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I'll get back to soon then after I slip in the memory mods and stuff. Thank you so much for your help, all of this inner stuff is way over my head.

corvusbray

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Alright, just finished a 30 minute test too see if it works. It didn't crash, and everything loaded in on the MCM. What I would like is to see if you can help me hone this LO so that is it better optimized. This is LOOT's work, but apparently the last one it gave me was atrocious. 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     SexLabAroused.esm
  8  8     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
  9  9     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 10  a     ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
 11  b     Campfire.esm
 12  c     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 13  d     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 14  e     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 15  f     DeviousFramework.esm
 16 10     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 17 11     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 18 12     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 19 13     Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
 20 14     SkyUI Rearranger.esp
 21 15     SexLab Brawling Rape.esp
 22 16     SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
 23 17     DeviouslyHelpless.esp
 24 18     Deviously Enslaved.esp
 25 19     SexLabDefeat.esp
 26 1a     mslDeviousCaptures.esp
 27 1b     DfwSupport.esp
 28 1c     SexLab Submit.esp
 29 1d     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 30 1e     SLALAnimObj.esp
 31 1f     SexLabArousedAnimations.esp
 32 20     Manakins.esp
 33 21     SexLabTools.esp
 34 22     SOS_Ho.esp
 35 23     SOS_Ho_StraponPatch.esp
 36 24     SOS - Leito Addon.esp
 37 25     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 38 26     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 39 27     XPMSE.esp
 40 28     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 41 29     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 42 2a     RaceMenu.esp
 43 2b     UIExtensions.esp
 44 2c     ETaC - Complete.esp
 45 2d     UNP - Fence Net Body Set.esp
 46 2e     LinkleOutfit.esp
 47 2f     LindsSpellslinger.esp
 48 30     Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
 49 31     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
 50 32     Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
 51 33     Immersive Whiterun.esp
 52 34     Immersive Solstheim.esp
 53 35     PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
 54 36     PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
 55 37     Run For Your Lives.esp
 56 38     Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
 57 39     PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
 58 3a     xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
 59 3b     ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
 60 3c     Frostfall.esp
 61 3d     SexLab-Parasites.esp
 62 3e     DeviousFollowers.esp
 63 3f     PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
 64 40     PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
 65 41     DeadlyMutilation.esp
 66 42     WestWindMisfit.esp
 67 43     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 68 44     Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp
 69 45     LiFE.esp
 70 46     FNISspells.esp
 71 47     SkyUI.esp
 72 48     FNIS.esp
 73 49     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
 74 4a     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 75 4b     NusbieVoices.esp
 76 4c     SexLab Romance.esp
 77 4d     Submit belt.esp
 78 4e     PetCollar.esp
 79 4f     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
 80 50     EstrusChaurus.esp
 81 51     dc-untamed-000.esp
 82 52     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 83 53     Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
 84 54     Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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