The Ancient Profession 2024-06-24

[wherewulf028]

Love the mod, Ruddycray. You have extreme amounts of talent and I look forward to everything you do with this mod, and any others you make.

A general question to the thread at large as well, While its technically canon for the Inn to have less people in the mornings and such, does anyone have any recommendations for mods that add more people to the inns at certain times? I dont need something like immersive citizens or anything, I just find it odd that there are two people (quest giver and a hireling) in the riften inn at 9am, when (in my mind, atleast) there should be a few people here and there getting food/leaving their respective rooms. 

I might just be too deep in the RP for my own good.

[ruddycray]

7 hours ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Hi, thanks. It works for me now.

 

Yes, "need time to prepare the Sybil" means "go away for a bit".

[ruddycray]

6 hours ago, wherewulf028 said:

Love the mod, Ruddycray. You have extreme amounts of talent and I look forward to everything you do with this mod, and any others you make.

A general question to the thread at large as well, While its technically canon for the Inn to have less people in the mornings and such, does anyone have any recommendations for mods that add more people to the inns at certain times? I dont need something like immersive citizens or anything, I just find it odd that there are two people (quest giver and a hireling) in the riften inn at 9am, when (in my mind, atleast) there should be a few people here and there getting food/leaving their respective rooms. 

I might just be too deep in the RP for my own good.

 

Thank you!

 

For populating taverns I've used Lively Inns and Taverns but there might be better ones out there that are closer to what you're looking for. LIAT basically pops NPCs into and out of existence at certain times of day, but it will make taverns A LOT more populated.

[Teimaaka]

i dont know if this has been asked already,

Spoiler

but can i actually find the Succubus thats the author of the "The Succubus" book? because in the last lines it say you shouldnt seek here out exept if you are of her kind, and i would really love to find her and perhaps have her as a follower or ally in some form. If it is possible to find here, could somebody tell me where and how ?(i dont really care if its spoilers) or alternatively, if she is not in the mod yet, could you add here? Perhaps make a quest where the PC seeks her out with Vanikas help

 

Marked my question as spoiler to not spoil the Succubus part of this mod for other players

Edited February 4, 2022 by Teimaaka

[ruddycray]

9 hours ago, Teimaaka said:

i dont know if this has been asked already,

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but can i actually find the Succubus thats the author of the "The Succubus" book? because in the last lines it say you shouldnt seek here out exept if you are of her kind, and i would really love to find her and perhaps have her as a follower or ally in some form. If it is possible to find here, could somebody tell me where and how ?(i dont really care if its spoilers) or alternatively, if she is not in the mod yet, could you add here? Perhaps make a quest where the PC seeks her out with Vanikas help

 

Marked my question as spoiler to not spoil the Succubus part of this mod for other players

 

It's not in the mod yet but it's coming. I need to plan out exactly what it will look like but it is something that I want to do.

[lelelehue]

On 9/20/2021 at 10:22 AM, NicoleDragoness said:

A brief pit-stop here just to say that Cathedral Optimizer solved the head-body texture mismatch in my LE environment.

All actors have now a correct complete skin color.

Could you please elaborate on your process? I've never used Cathedral before so not sure about the methodology.

Or, alternatively (and if ruddycray doesn't mind ofc), could you upload the converted assets?

[NicoleDragoness]

Supposing that:

1. You have extracted ALL the files from the BSA and have them correctly installed, plus you have then deleted the original BSA.

2. You have installed CAO.

 

So:

a. Set the Cathedral Opt to a TES5 (Skyrim LE) profile.

b. In the "mesh" page select only "Necessary optimizisation" in the section "Process meshes".

c. Do the same in the "textures" page (leave unchecked the "resize" options).

 

D. In the "Open Directory" search for your "......./Data/meshes/actors/character/FaceGenData/FaceGeom/TheAncientProfession.esp" folder.

E. Click on the "Run" button (in the meanwhile you can check the "log" tab to see what the program is doing.

 

F & G. Do the same as above for the textures ---> FaceTint part.

 

Hope I was enough clear.

[lelelehue]

1 hour ago, NicoleDragoness said:

Supposing that:

1. You have extracted ALL the files from the BSA and have them correctly installed, plus you have then deleted the original BSA.

2. You have installed CAO.

 

So:

a. Set the Cathedral Opt to a TES5 (Skyrim LE) profile.

b. In the "mesh" page select only "Necessary optimizisation" in the section "Process meshes".

c. Do the same in the "textures" page (leave unchecked the "resize" options).

 

D. In the "Open Directory" search for your "......./Data/meshes/actors/character/FaceGenData/FaceGeom/TheAncientProfession.esp" folder.

E. Click on the "Run" button (in the meanwhile you can check the "log" tab to see what the program is doing.

 

F & G. Do the same as above for the textures ---> FaceTint part.

 

Hope I was enough clear.

Thank you, seems managable, I'll give it a try.

[ruddycray]

5 hours ago, lelelehue said:

Could you please elaborate on your process? I've never used Cathedral before so not sure about the methodology.

Or, alternatively (and if ruddycray doesn't mind ofc), could you upload the converted assets?

 

I don't mind if someone uploads converted assets.

[xtrange988]

Thanks for the update.

 

I had some problems with last Vanikseth quest. When he gives me the scroll, the raised dunmer doesn't stop following me and I can't activate her. I believe is a conflict with a mod I have but I couldn't advance the quest by normal means and had to use setstage 900 and 1000. The quest resumed fine after that and the raised dunmer stayed inside the room. 

 

 

[ruddycray]

19 hours ago, xtrange988 said:

Thanks for the update.

 

I had some problems with last Vanikseth quest. When he gives me the scroll, the raised dunmer doesn't stop following me and I can't activate her. I believe is a conflict with a mod I have but I couldn't advance the quest by normal means and had to use setstage 900 and 1000. The quest resumed fine after that and the raised dunmer stayed inside the room. 

 

 

 

I could use some more information here:

 

Spoiler

Did you have sex with Vanikseth after raising the Dunmer? Did the quest advance when you did? Did you have the "Have sex" prompt for the raised Dunmer after that?

 

If yes to all of those, do you have any idea what mod might have been interfering?

 

Can you make it happen again if you go back to an earlier save and do the quest again? If so, what stage is the quest on? You can find out with "sqv tapqvanikseth04".

 

Also, is this SE, LE, or AE?

 

[xtrange988]

14 hours ago, ruddycray said:

 

I could use some more information here:

 

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Did you have sex with Vanikseth after raising the Dunmer? Did the quest advance when you did? Did you have the "Have sex" prompt for the raised Dunmer after that?

 

If yes to all of those, do you have any idea what mod might have been interfering?

 

Can you make it happen again if you go back to an earlier save and do the quest again? If so, what stage is the quest on? You can find out with "sqv tapqvanikseth04".

 

Also, is this SE, LE, or AE?

 

 

AE Skyrim

 

Yes, Yes and No. The sex prompt didn't appeared, when I activated the raised dunmer it only opened her inventory, as if she was still a corpse. I tried multiple times. Entered and exited the room but nothing changed, it just opened her inventory. I have no necromancy perks active that could interfere at the moment but could be anything. I have Vokriinator installed and that might be causing it, but it does't happen when I use the vanilla spell to raise a corpse.

 

TAPQVanikseth 800 Sex with Vanikseth and got his soul.

TAPQVanikseth 900 Interacting with the dunmer woman only opens her inventory. Completing the stage doesn't let me speak with her either.

After completing stage 1000 with console commands everything worked fine again and I could find Vanikseth at the inn.

 

Maybe can you modify it to advance automatically or better yet use the MCM menu to debug the quest and trigger the scene? Or maybe ignore it, probably I'm the only one with the issue.

Edited February 7, 2022 by xtrange988

[ruddycray]

10 hours ago, xtrange988 said:

 

AE Skyrim

 

Yes, Yes and No. The sex prompt didn't appeared, when I activated the raised dunmer it only opened her inventory, as if she was still a corpse. I tried multiple times. Entered and exited the room but nothing changed, it just opened her inventory. I have no necromancy perks active that could interfere at the moment but could be anything. I have Vokriinator installed and that might be causing it, but it does't happen when I use the vanilla spell to raise a corpse.

 

TAPQVanikseth 800 Sex with Vanikseth and got his soul.

TAPQVanikseth 900 Interacting with the dunmer woman only opens her inventory. Completing the stage doesn't let me speak with her either.

After completing stage 1000 with console commands everything worked fine again and I could find Vanikseth at the inn.

 

Maybe can you modify it to advance automatically or better yet use the MCM menu to debug the quest and trigger the scene? Or maybe ignore it, probably I'm the only one with the issue.

 

Thanks for the info. I'll see if I can tell what might be happening. In the meantime, if you can think of any other details that would be helpful, more info is usually better.

 

If you don't mind posting your load order that might help, too.

 

I can't promise I'll find the issue right away, of course. Version 0.10 actually fixes a few bugs that others reported months and months ago that I wasn't able to reproduce right away, because the people reporting them didn't provide the right info for me to do so. I'm not blaming them, mind you. Both required some fairly specific sequencing or other mods. But that's also why the more info you can provide me to help pinpoint the cause the more likely I will be to find it and correct it.

[poporaltemporal]

I recently found all features of this mod and I am really impressed of it all. Thanks for all the work you have done.

This mod gives nice little different approach to succubus gameplay.

Few things I find lacking or missing or perhaps would love to have cross mod compatibility.
1) Public Whore -- awesome mod in other aspect. It would be awesome if these 2 mods could somehow benefit from each other. For example maybe your pimp or local brothel would count your things and get pissed you went all socialistic on them.
2) SL Survival -- Adds enticing/ teasing in the 'g' radial menu. Its nice feature but does not do anything. Similar things has been in other mods that would allow player to dance or add close by npc arousal.
3) Some other mods allow player to pimp out followers. Perhaps player could become pimp on his/her own. Perhaps player could run into abandoned house and make it a brothel?
4) Some improvements to succubus play: a) enticing dialogue b) enticing actions like fondling in front of character c) I think that turning followers to succubus is bit too much but perhaps you could turn some dibellan character and cause crisis in dibellan temple? d) Would like some visual changes to the characters that a succubus. Perhaps you could use DAR to add idles or magic casts etc? If not anything else maybe you could introduce way for other animation creators to dap to the status of the succubus that they can create succubus pack?

Here is bit more thoughts that are already expressed above but are more wide problems than just succubus things etc.. I think such things like these are missing.

1) good dialogue to build up sexual tension. Either the lines are really badly written or they expect that you can choose how you are fucked etc.. I merely rather just had some dialogue option like <run your finger over his/her groin>. Which would maybe have several possible outcomes. 1) if the npc was enough aroused and prefered your sex she/he would simply assault you. In case his/her arousal was not enough to rape you her/his arousal would simply be upped. Maybe add blush on female npc for brief time and tracking player with his/her eyes. 3) Perhaps if the npc would not fancy you or your sex. She/he would simply slap at your hand and push you off.
2) teasing -- SL survival does it but it seems not to do anything else than play 3 different animations.
These 2 would be fitting for PW as you want to do your quota fast. Also right now the dialogue for sex is kinda plain. Would like it to be little more. In case you successfully would cause them to fuck you perhaps you would have to then beg and remind them later that it actually costs them.

Above things are also pointed in public whore thread.

Anyhow thanks for the great mod. Waiting on more here

[poporaltemporal]

Oh and one other thing. It would be nice if selling yourself outside without safety of inn or brothel would be added.
- Perhaps these actions would add disposition to local brothel  maybe they would demand their cut.
- Dangers for rape and not to be paid. <maybe SLHH compatible>
- Dangers to get robbed -- maybe lost items would get to some beggars chests

- Dangers to get kidnapped -- <simple slavery>?
- Perhaps there was keyword for "on the job" for clothing or armor that way the mod could check if the player wanted to whore in inn or street. In simplicity it could be a ring. Or perhaps it was an enhancement that could be put on anything?

I know its kinda difficult and perhaps unimmersive but once you setup yourself with in. Perhaps you would not have to setup the deal again. Maybe whenever you enter an inn you have deal setup when you enter the in popup would popup "<inn keeper> smiles your way" this could also change on depending on how much money you made for the inn. Lets say you made 200 gold money for inn and it could change to "<inn keeper> greets you with smiling face and invites you in with bottle of ale."

 

[poporaltemporal]

One thing that still got to mind about succubus play.

1) I have many mods installed and I had really big problems to understand how the ability "absorb next soul" worked. These text notifications got sank into other text I got in my texts. So I did not notice "resisted" messages. Plus mods that I use for initiating sex can end up to scenes that do not have vaginal animation. So I was completely puzzled. Perhaps make popup out of this so this does not sink to other texts?

2) I am using SLSO and it seems that this triggers always on sex end. I would like it that you would actually have to do something to achieve it. Perhaps you would have to orgasm close time to your prey that you would be able to suck the soul? Then this would actually happen during sex and not after the animations would play through. Of course it would be nice that people that did not use SLSO could have the feature too so the old logic could be for people without SLSO.

[cheeze_whiz]

I continue to be impressed by this mods... um... wholesome-ness (I mean, comparatively speaking). Everything about the mod is nice, immersive and pleasant. I enjoy taking some time off to work the Brothel. sometimes if me and the crew get to an inn, and it's not too late, I'll put on my working clothes and entertain the folk for a bit before bed. I like that couples will generally not accept solicitation, this was AWESOME. Normally, my second customer in the Bannered Mare at night (with Radiant Prostitution) was always Jon Battleborn. With this mod, I asked him and he was like "I'm with some one, sorry". I thought that was SO sweet that he won't cheat on Olfina. 

 

Anyway, enough gushing. I have a question and request. 

 

1) Does the Dibella quest stop after returning the Pilgrim to the temple? Was kind of hoping for an amulet and wreath and the option to "spread the love" in the name of Dibella. I don't like the sisterhood mod and would much rather get that fix here. Nice twist too, by the way

2) The Riften Situation. I am OCD when it comes to quests. If it's in my log, I must do it. Why I play with The Choice is Yours, Timing is Everything, and Skald's Mail. To avoid getting quests I won't/cant' do. I would love to get my license in all the holds, but that Black-Briar creep just makes me want to scream. Such a pompous ass. I like the "other guy" better and would love it if you could side with him and take down the current regime. Maybe? 

 

Anyway, I love the mod and your efforts are to be commended. Thank you. 

 

EDIT: Sorry, second request: Female customers in the brothels. Also, rotating customers in the brothels. I know I should be able to get my bi fix with the other girls, but with this new update, I get rejected more often than not. They tell me to "give the dudes stam pots".

Edited February 7, 2022 by cheeze_whiz

[Highborn]

4 hours ago, cheeze_whiz said:

I continue to be impressed by this mods... um... wholesome-ness (I mean, comparatively speaking). Everything about the mod is nice, immersive and pleasant. I enjoy taking some time off to work the Brothel. sometimes if me and the crew get to an inn, and it's not too late, I'll put on my working clothes and entertain the folk for a bit before bed. I like that couples will generally not accept solicitation, this was AWESOME. Normally, my second customer in the Bannered Mare at night (with Radiant Prostitution) was always Jon Battleborn. With this mod, I asked him and he was like "I'm with some one, sorry". I thought that was SO sweet that he won't cheat on Olfina. 

 

Anyway, enough gushing. I have a question and request. 

 

1) Does the Dibella quest stop after returning the Pilgrim to the temple? Was kind of hoping for an amulet and wreath and the option to "spread the love" in the name of Dibella. I don't like the sisterhood mod and would much rather get that fix here. Nice twist too, by the way

2) The Riften Situation. I am OCD when it comes to quests. If it's in my log, I must do it. Why I play with The Choice is Yours, Timing is Everything, and Skald's Mail. To avoid getting quests I won't/cant' do. I would love to get my license in all the holds, but that Black-Briar creep just makes me want to scream. Such a pompous ass. I like the "other guy" better and would love it if you could side with him and take down the current regime. Maybe? 

 

Anyway, I love the mod and your efforts are to be commended. Thank you. 

 

EDIT: Sorry, second request: Female customers in the brothels. Also, rotating customers in the brothels. I know I should be able to get my bi fix with the other girls, but with this new update, I get rejected more often than not. They tell me to "give the dudes stam pots".

As far as I know the Dibella quest stops there. And I believe you can use the MCM menu to customize the chance of being rejected or not. 

[BiggieRigs]

Really love this mod for a nice little themed run I'm doing, easily the best prostitution mod out there right now

 

That said, is there any way for the user to change how debts work? I want my character to have the prostitution be a side gig, but having debt stack up from both the brothel and the riften dude is just way too much, it takes an ungodly amount of customers to keep up with those two lmao. I just want to either reduce the debt amount, interval, or just make it cut-based rather than "You pay me X no matter what"

[ruddycray]

6 hours ago, poporaltemporal said:

I recently found all features of this mod and I am really impressed of it all. Thanks for all the work you have done.

This mod gives nice little different approach to succubus gameplay.

 

Glad you like it

 

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Few things I find lacking or missing or perhaps would love to have cross mod compatibility.
1) Public Whore -- awesome mod in other aspect. It would be awesome if these 2 mods could somehow benefit from each other. For example maybe your pimp or local brothel would count your things and get pissed you went all socialistic on them.

 

I've looked into Public Whore a little bit, and the idea doesn't seem to provide much in the way of opportunity for integration to me. Its premise feels far outside lore-friendly territory to me. I won't absolutely rule it out, but I don't know about it.

 

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2) SL Survival -- Adds enticing/ teasing in the 'g' radial menu. Its nice feature but does not do anything. Similar things has been in other mods that would allow player to dance or add close by npc arousal.

 

The idea of adding dancing is something I would like to do if I could, but I haven't had much luck with finding freely usable assets that feel like they belong. I don't have much interest in adding dances that look like something you'd see in a modern nightclub.

 

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3) Some other mods allow player to pimp out followers. Perhaps player could become pimp on his/her own. Perhaps player could run into abandoned house and make it a brothel?

 

There's a possibility I'll add some mechanics with this for some followers, but pimping out just any follower is unlikely. I've said before that Lydia is sworn to carry your burdens, not to to take a dick on your say-so.

 

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4) Some improvements to succubus play: a) enticing dialogue b) enticing actions like fondling in front of character c) I think that turning followers to succubus is bit too much but perhaps you could turn some dibellan character and cause crisis in dibellan temple? d) Would like some visual changes to the characters that a succubus. Perhaps you could use DAR to add idles or magic casts etc? If not anything else maybe you could introduce way for other animation creators to dap to the status of the succubus that they can create succubus pack?

 

Some of those things are possibilities. I'm not going to promise anything specific, but more dialogue and something involving the temple are distinctly possible. I don't know whether I'm going to try to make appearance changes myself. The player does have the keyword TAPSuccubus added to them when they are a succubus, much like they get the keyword Vampire added to them when they're a vampire, so it would definitely be possible for someone who was interested in adding something to detect that the player had become a succubus through this mod if they wanted to.

 

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Here is bit more thoughts that are already expressed above but are more wide problems than just succubus things etc.. I think such things like these are missing.

1) good dialogue to build up sexual tension. Either the lines are really badly written or they expect that you can choose how you are fucked etc.. I merely rather just had some dialogue option like <run your finger over his/her groin>. Which would maybe have several possible outcomes. 1) if the npc was enough aroused and prefered your sex she/he would simply assault you. In case his/her arousal was not enough to rape you her/his arousal would simply be upped. Maybe add blush on female npc for brief time and tracking player with his/her eyes. 3) Perhaps if the npc would not fancy you or your sex. She/he would simply slap at your hand and push you off.

 

I think those might be best left for someone else to do. I'm not personally much of a fan of "action" dialogue, and anything involving rape in the context of a brothel or inn is a hard no. Rape play maybe, but my concept (and honestly a motivation for making this mod) is that even if your employer didn't care on a personal level about the effects of an assault on you, they would definitely care about someone threatening a source of income for them. I have played other prostitution mods where potential clients just outright raped you in an inn, and nothing happened to them, and that utterly destroys immersion for me. It is possible that there might be a small chance for assault if you work away from an inn without the protection of a brothel, pimp, or innkeeper, but even then I'm not really looking to make a rape-heavy mod. I'm not avoiding it entirely, but I'm not too interested in it as a main feature.

[ruddycray]

7 hours ago, poporaltemporal said:

Oh and one other thing. It would be nice if selling yourself outside without safety of inn or brothel would be added.
- Perhaps these actions would add disposition to local brothel  maybe they would demand their cut.
- Dangers for rape and not to be paid. <maybe SLHH compatible>
- Dangers to get robbed -- maybe lost items would get to some beggars chests

- Dangers to get kidnapped -- <simple slavery>?
- Perhaps there was keyword for "on the job" for clothing or armor that way the mod could check if the player wanted to whore in inn or street. In simplicity it could be a ring. Or perhaps it was an enhancement that could be put on anything?

I know its kinda difficult and perhaps unimmersive but once you setup yourself with in. Perhaps you would not have to setup the deal again. Maybe whenever you enter an inn you have deal setup when you enter the in popup would popup "<inn keeper> smiles your way" this could also change on depending on how much money you made for the inn. Lets say you made 200 gold money for inn and it could change to "<inn keeper> greets you with smiling face and invites you in with bottle of ale."

 

 

I have some things in mind for freelance prostitution, but it will probably be a while before I get around to actually implementing them.

[ruddycray]

6 hours ago, poporaltemporal said:

One thing that still got to mind about succubus play.

1) I have many mods installed and I had really big problems to understand how the ability "absorb next soul" worked. These text notifications got sank into other text I got in my texts. So I did not notice "resisted" messages. Plus mods that I use for initiating sex can end up to scenes that do not have vaginal animation. So I was completely puzzled. Perhaps make popup out of this so this does not sink to other texts?

2) I am using SLSO and it seems that this triggers always on sex end. I would like it that you would actually have to do something to achieve it. Perhaps you would have to orgasm close time to your prey that you would be able to suck the soul? Then this would actually happen during sex and not after the animations would play through. Of course it would be nice that people that did not use SLSO could have the feature too so the old logic could be for people without SLSO.

 

I'm open to ways to make it easier to notice when something will or won't work with the succubus aspects, but pop-up text (I assume you mean something like a message box) is a bit too annoying IMO to use for common messages.

 

With SLSO, it should only work if the victim has an orgasm, but I don't use SLSO so I haven't tested it much myself. If you have one and your victim doesn't, it should not work. If it does, that's a bug.

 

Edit: The idea of needing to orgasm close in time to your prey could be interesting. I'll mark it as something to look into, but it will probably be low priority and optional.

Edited February 7, 2022 by ruddycray

[ruddycray]

7 hours ago, cheeze_whiz said:

I continue to be impressed by this mods... um... wholesome-ness (I mean, comparatively speaking). Everything about the mod is nice, immersive and pleasant. I enjoy taking some time off to work the Brothel. sometimes if me and the crew get to an inn, and it's not too late, I'll put on my working clothes and entertain the folk for a bit before bed. I like that couples will generally not accept solicitation, this was AWESOME. Normally, my second customer in the Bannered Mare at night (with Radiant Prostitution) was always Jon Battleborn. With this mod, I asked him and he was like "I'm with some one, sorry". I thought that was SO sweet that he won't cheat on Olfina.

Anyway, enough gushing. I have a question and request.

 

 

Thank you! It's always motivating to hear that someone enjoys the mod so much. I'm also glad to hear that the feature where people with romantic attachments won't accept solicitations by default made the mod more enjoyable. It was something I added for my own immersion, but it's nice when players like those touches, too.

 

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1) Does the Dibella quest stop after returning the Pilgrim to the temple? Was kind of hoping for an amulet and wreath and the option to "spread the love" in the name of Dibella. I don't like the sisterhood mod and would much rather get that fix here. Nice twist too, by the way 

 

Yes, that's it for now. The player as a holy prostitute will definitely be a part of the Temple of Dibella content I intend to add. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. My current intention with The Sisterhood of Dibella is to make it possible for someone who prefers it to be able to use the other features of my mod and keep that one, but anyone who wants my mod's temple content will have something full-featured to use instead if they want.

 

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2) The Riften Situation. I am OCD when it comes to quests. If it's in my log, I must do it. Why I play with The Choice is Yours, Timing is Everything, and Skald's Mail. To avoid getting quests I won't/cant' do. I would love to get my license in all the holds, but that Black-Briar creep just makes me want to scream. Such a pompous ass. I like the "other guy" better and would love it if you could side with him and take down the current regime. Maybe?

 

Making it possible to work in Riften without working for Benjen will be the main point of the Dibella's Garden quest line. I am probably not going to expand on Rudhiir, not because I don't like the idea but because I've got too many other things I'm trying to do. I don't want to create something with plans that are too grand to actually accomplish.

 

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EDIT: Sorry, second request: Female customers in the brothels. Also, rotating customers in the brothels. I know I should be able to get my bi fix with the other girls, but with this new update, I get rejected more often than not. They tell me to "give the dudes stam pots".

 

I've already got it on my list to add female customers. I don't have an estimate on when I'll get it done, but I plan on it.

Edited February 7, 2022 by ruddycray
Accidentally hit the button to submit my post before I was done

[ruddycray]

2 hours ago, BiggieRigs said:

Really love this mod for a nice little themed run I'm doing, easily the best prostitution mod out there right now

 

That said, is there any way for the user to change how debts work? I want my character to have the prostitution be a side gig, but having debt stack up from both the brothel and the riften dude is just way too much, it takes an ungodly amount of customers to keep up with those two lmao. I just want to either reduce the debt amount, interval, or just make it cut-based rather than "You pay me X no matter what"

 

Dibella's Garden doesn't have a quota. If you don't want that, you'll need to avoid working for Benjen. As I mentioned in another post, the Dibella's Garden quest line will be about making it possible to work in Riften without working for him, so it will eventually be possible to avoid the quota even if you want to work there. I had originally meant for Dibella's Garden to have a smaller quota, too, but right now I'm thinking I probably won't do that.

 

I have done an actual play-through of the game with this mod running recently, though, and I really didn't find myself having trouble keeping up with the payments even when I was not entertaining that many clients, because money isn't that hard to come by once you really get started. I actually accumulated almost a hundred thousand gold even with paying Benjen every two weeks. Of course, if you have mods that make the economy more brutal or something like that it will probably be harder.

 

You can also increase the gold per client. It really only takes about 8 clients in a 2-week period to make enough money to pay Benjen if you put the slider to 150, and Dibella's Garden just takes a cut. And that's all assuming you don't take any special jobs, which can pay as much as 1000 gold in one go.

 

Edit: Also, thank you for the compliments!

Edited February 7, 2022 by ruddycray

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3 hours ago, Highborn said:

As far as I know the Dibella quest stops there. And I believe you can use the MCM menu to customize the chance of being rejected or not. 

 

I don't think the same-sex option in the MCM controls whether the other prostitutes will accept the "put on a show" dialogue. I think it's hard-coded to 20%.