Errors when running FNIS XXL[Solved]

[WhatRules]

The type of errors I'm getting are "mod x uses outdated behaviour file" and my CTD chance is at 74% with 15% optimization probability. Can I do something to improve it? After deleting animations I have tried generating new behaviour files and replace the old ones but the CTD chance doesn't go down. Is that only because I have too many animations? (11000+)

 

The real CTD chance seem lower however, as I usually manage to load a game the second time if it crashes.

[Aki K]

18 minutes ago, saltshade said:

The type of errors I'm getting are "mod x uses outdated behaviour file" and my CTD chance is at 74% with 15% optimization probability. Can I do something to improve it? After deleting animations I have tried generating new behaviour files and replace the the old ones but the CTD chance doesn't go down. Is that only because I have too many animations? (11000+)

 

The real CTD chance seem lower however, as I usually manage to load a game the second time if it crashes.

Admittedly I'm not the most familiar with FNIS.  But my CTD chance is at 89%-95% area.  I rarely get a CTD (barring a recent and unrelated mishap in my setup).  I certainly have more animations than you do, I'm near the max limit.

 

In regards to a mod using an outdated behavior file thing, I honestly can't find any clear answers on what that means.  For some people it seems to be a big problem.  For others it just means FNIS can't calculate the CTD chance properly.  I honestly don't know.  But if your game is running with no weirdness, I'm going to guess it's fine.

 

EDIT: Yeah I get those errors too.  Mostly for "real flying".  No idea what it means but everything seems to be working so I'm not having any trouble with it.

[Psalam]

39 minutes ago, saltshade said:

The type of errors I'm getting are "mod x uses outdated behaviour file" and my CTD chance is at 74% with 15% optimization probability. Can I do something to improve it? After deleting animations I have tried generating new behaviour files and replace the old ones but the CTD chance doesn't go down. Is that only because I have too many animations? (11000+)

 

The real CTD chance seem lower however, as I usually manage to load a game the second time if it crashes.

Aki K is correct about the warning. It usually just means that the animations are old and that they could be improved upon (by someone who knew what they were doing - not me). The numbers in the new version of XXL are interesting but not entirely helpful. The CTD chance means that once you reach 100% (and beyond) you WILL CTD on load. Anything short of that, even 98-99%, are perfectly acceptable and do NOT indicate that your game is more likely to CTD. These numbers reflect only the likelihood of CTD due to too many animations. This makes it a true/false rather than a truly percentage prediction.

[GenioMaestro]

48 minutes ago, saltshade said:

The type of errors I'm getting are "mod x uses outdated behaviour file" and my CTD chance is at 74% with 15% optimization probability. Can I do something to improve it? After deleting animations I have tried generating new behaviour files and replace the old ones but the CTD chance doesn't go down. Is that only because I have too many animations? (11000+)

 

The real CTD chance seem lower however, as I usually manage to load a game the second time if it crashes.

For know if really your problem is related to the excesive animations make a test on a new game.

If you get CTD when click New Game, probably, you have too many animations. Remove animations .

But reading your message seems that your problem can not be related to excesive animations, specially when FNIS show a percent value under 90%.

 

If you have CTD when load your savegame install Load Game CTD Fix.

If you continue having problems download ReSaver and clean your savegame.

[GenioMaestro]

3 hours ago, Psalam said:

The numbers in the new version of XXL are interesting but not entirely helpful. The CTD chance means that once you reach 100% (and beyond) you WILL CTD on load. Anything short of that, even 98-99%, are perfectly acceptable and do NOT indicate that your game is more likely to CTD. These numbers reflect only the likelihood of CTD due to too many animations. This makes it a true/false rather than a truly percentage prediction.

Your paragraph is totally correct excep in one situation. When FNIS say "mod x uses outdated behaviour file".

 

The new FNIS 7.5 can compute the animation charge very well and, as you say, is not aproximative.

Is exact to the +-1% and that mean that the game must works whitout any problem whit a charge of 99%.

Have less charge not reduce the probability of CTD but have a charge over 100% is a sure CTD.

 

But when Fnis say "mod x uses outdated behaviour file" all the computations of the CTD percent are broken and the animation charge can not be computed correctly. In that situation FNIS can give you a charge of 93% and the game can make CTD by excesive animations. Or the oposite side of have a charge of 107% and the game works and NOT make CTD. When you see that message the CTD percent can not be used as a secure number.

 

The only solution to the problem is Re-Generate the behavior file whit FnisForModders if you know how make it or send a message to the creator of the pack and wait for a new version of the pack.

In the same matter, the only way for optimice the behaviors files for reduce the optimization percent is modify the Fnis files of the pack, if you know how make it. If not, send a message to the creator of the pack and wait for an optimiced version.

 

Some modders already has applied the optimizations. For example, the new version of DD 4.3 is optimiced and now FNIS show a optimization percent of 0% in the DD animations. We only must wait until others modders make the same and publish new version whit the corrections.

[WhatRules]

Thanks for all the answers. There is nothing to do then, except installing the load CTD fix. I already had safety load but can't say it helped much, and I've always had the occasional CTDs in my games. I think it's because I have a lot of mods and Skyrim isn't well optimized for newer hardware. It seems to be a common issue. So I will just carry on playing.

[GenioMaestro]

15 minutes ago, saltshade said:

occasional CTDs

Occasional CTD in Skyrim is normal. I have one or two every week and i not know why happen.

What is not normal is have CTD every day after play half hour. That is a bad configured game.

[Aki K]

I can't believe I was right about something ^-^.

[Psalam]

30 minutes ago, Aki K said:

I can't believe I was right about something ^-^.

Don't put yourself down. There are always others who will do it for you. ?

[Aki K]

25 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Don't put yourself down. There are always others who will do it for you. ?

Not putting myself down lol.  I was making a joke.  I'm a fast learner usually.  But recently I made a super big mistake in my setup and had CTD nearly every other run.  I was kind of poking fun at myself over that.  It ended up being one or two really simple fixes but it drove me mad, and it was all user error on my end.

[Psalam]

1 hour ago, Aki K said:

Not putting myself down lol.  I was making a joke.  I'm a fast learner usually.  But recently I made a super big mistake in my setup and had CTD nearly every other run.  I was kind of poking fun at myself over that.  It ended up being one or two really simple fixes but it drove me mad, and it was all user error on my end.

Well, that's happened to me too and I suspect to everyone else who's spent any time with Skyrim. ?

[WhatRules]

5 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

Occasional CTD in Skyrim is normal. I have one or two every week and i not know why happen.

What is not normal is have CTD every day after play half hour. That is a bad configured game.

Then I have a badly configured game(several CTD per day), but it got better after installing the load fix.

[Psalam]

9 hours ago, saltshade said:

Then I have a badly configured game(several CTD per day), but it got better after installing the load fix.

That may be so. That is why I always recommend (cue music):

 

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[Grey Cloud]

57 minutes ago, Psalam said:

This fine product shows you how to build your Skyrim game from scratch. No aggravating infinite loading screens! CTDs a thing of the past

You missed "Trousers pressed while you wait". ?