SexLab Romance SE

nomkaz · February 14, 2020

4 hours ago, Sigmaballs said:

Hey is anybody able to help me? I'm using this mod for a long time now and I didn't have any problems until now. If I want to use the mod all the options simply don't work or just lead to "Actually maybe later". Has anybody any idea what the problem could be?

Here is my load order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
6 6 BSAssets.esm
7 7 BSHeartland.esm
8 8 BS_DLC_patch.esp
9 9 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
10 a FlowerGirls SE.esm
11 b SexLab.esm
12 c arnima.esm
13 d Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
14 e SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
15 f Immersive Wenches.esp
16 10 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
17 11 SkyUI_SE.esp
18 12 Cutting Room Floor.esp
19 13 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
20 14 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
21 15 1nivWICCloaks.esp
22 16 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
23 17 EBT - IC PATCH.esp
24 18 CBBE.esp
25 19 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
26 1a RaceMenu.esp
27 1b XPMSE.esp
28 1c RaceMenuPlugin.esp
29 1d Holds.esp
30 1e Holds Unofficial Patch.esp
31 1f HoldsLegacyOfTheDragonbornCompatibilityPatch.esp
32 20 Holds - Legacy Of The Dragonborn Patch.esp
33 21 Eli_Breezehome.esp
34 22 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
35 23 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
36 24 20 More Perk Points.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
37 25 KS Hairdo's.esp
38 26 Dual Blocking for Idiots v1.35a.esp
39 27 VioLens SE.esp
40 28 Flower Girls NPC Overhaul.esp
41 29 Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp
42 2a FNIS.esp
43 2b Forgotten Wenches.esp
44 2c Judgment Wenches.esp
45 2d OBIS SE.esp
46 2e Deadly Wenches.esp
47 2f BikiniAscendVolume1.esp
48 30 Bikini Ascend Level Lists.esp
49 31 LABikiniSSE.esp
50 32 Immersive Weapons.esp
51 33 Holds - USEEP Patch.esp
52 34 Hunting in Skyrim.esp
53 35 HoldsInterestingNPCsCompatibilityPatch.esp
54 36 RomanceOfNPCs.esp
55 37 The Ordinary Women.esp
56 38 Bijin Wives.esp
57 39 Bijin NPCs.esp
58 3a Bijin Warmaidens.esp
59 3b Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
60 3c RaceMenuHH.esp
61 3d Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
62 3e Merta Assassin Armor.esp
63 3f DX Witch Hunter Armor.esp
Celes Rogue Armor UNP.esp
64 40 DragonPlateBrazen.esp
65 41 Celes Rogue Armor CBBE.esp
66 42 BarbarianPaints.esp
67 43 HoldsPrometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roofCompatibilityPatch.esp
68 44 Holds - CRF Patch.esp
69 45 Immersive Encounters.esp
254 FE 1 Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
70 46 Immersive War and Violence.esp
71 47 DX Druid Armor.esp
72 48 Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
73 49 HoldsUSLEEPCompatibilityPatch.esp
74 4a Immersive Patrols II.esp
75 4b SofiaFollower.esp
76 4c SexLab Romance.esp
77 4d Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
78 4e SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
254 FE 2 DBM_IW_Patch.esp
79 4f Hateful Wenches.esp
Immersive Encounters - Open Cities Patch.esp
254 FE 3 Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp
80 50 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
81 51 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
82 52 Shiva's Vanilla Clothing Replacer.esp
254 FE 4 DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp
254 FE 5 Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp
83 53 ElysiumEstate.esp
84 54 Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
254 FE 6 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
254 FE 7 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
85 55 UIExtensions.esp
254 FE 8 Celes Mercy.esp
86 56 Black Widow Outfit.esp
87 57 Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp
88 58 Gwelda Witch.esp
89 59 Crimson Blood Armor.esp
90 5a Gwelda Vampire.esp
91 5b Celes Tarot Outfit Light CBBE.esp
92 5c Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp
93 5d Vivid Weathers SE - Summer Season.esp
94 5e LazyTools.esp
95 5f Holds - SFO Patch.esp
96 60 LADX_SSE.esp
97 61 SpousesEnhancedSE.esp
98 62 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
99 63 CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
100 64 Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp
Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_CRF Patch.esp
DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp
101 65 Holds - The Ordinary Women Patch.esp
102 66 Holds - Bijin_AIO 2018 Patch.esp
103 67 Holds - Bijin_AIO-SV 2018 Patch.esp
104 68 Holds - Bijin NPCs Patch.esp
105 69 Holds - Immersive Wenches Patch.esp
106 6a Toccata.esp
107 6b Minerva.esp
108 6c Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
109 6d Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
110 6e Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
111 6f Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
112 70 Holds - Alternate Start Patch.esp

XPMSE needs to be all the way at the bottom so nothing overwrites it, that will fix a metric ton of issues, but I'm not sure it'll fix any dialog. There are conditions that need to be met for certain dialogue, so make sure you're meeting those as well.

Sigmaballs · February 14, 2020

15 hours ago, nomkaz said:

XPMSE needs to be all the way at the bottom so nothing overwrites it, that will fix a metric ton of issues, but I'm not sure it'll fix any dialog. There are conditions that need to be met for certain dialogue, so make sure you're meeting those as well.

unfortunately it didn't fix it.

nomkaz · February 14, 2020

6 hours ago, Sigmaballs said:

unfortunately it didn't fix it.

Well, balls. Are you using the dialogue fix ESP, or the one int he download? Try that one, and let me know.

Sigmaballs · February 15, 2020

16 hours ago, nomkaz said:

Well, balls. Are you using the dialogue fix ESP, or the one int he download? Try that one, and let me know.

where can I find this?

nomkaz · February 16, 2020

14 hours ago, Sigmaballs said:

where can I find this?

It's one of the optional downloads.

JerseyWalrus · April 22, 2020

Does anyone know how this compares to RDS or SLEN?

Littletree34 · April 25, 2020

Dialog trees are busted for me, I try and talk to someone and theres only "excuse me miss" or "excuse me handsome" and no other dialog options, ive tried replacing the esp. I dont know what else there could possibly be

GlibbaGlabba · May 12, 2020

On 12/1/2019 at 5:22 AM, rodrigo2 said:

That's too bad.... I wish I knew how to mod; unfortunately, I have no idea where to even begin to learn modding…. Oh well...hopefully some of the more talented folk around here will adopt this as a project.

You're in luck.

If nomkaz is okay with it, I'll take over this mod. I have some ideas that already worked in small scale tests. I'm not an experienced modder or know how to script but I'm confident that I can make this mod a lot better.

If you have any wishes or ideas, just say the word. But keep in mind that I will keep this mod small, simple and immersive.

I'm pretty busy irl right now though, so don't expect something anytime soon.

rodrigo2 · May 13, 2020

10 hours ago, GlibbaGlabba said:

You're in luck.

If nomkaz is okay with it, I'll take over this mod. I have some ideas that already worked in small scale tests. I'm not an experienced modder or know how to script but I'm confident that I can make this mod a lot better.

If you have any wishes or ideas, just say the word. But keep in mind that I will keep this mod small, simple and immersive.

I'm pretty busy irl right now though, so don't expect something anytime soon.

More power to you! It's sad so many of the modders Who came out with these mods five or more years ago have moved on. LL could definitely use new blood!! Nomkaz likely won't object. In his self description, he says he doesn't create new mods, he just ports Oldrim mods over to SSE. (Which is loads more than I can do! ) As to what to add, hmmm....the original mode wrote at the end of the mod description (before Nomkaz ported it to SSE):

"Future versions of this mod will include the following:

1. NPC's approaching and propositioning you for sex

2. An option to offer money or gifts for sex / Intimidate for sex (leading to rape if you let it) if an NPC turns you down, offering money for sex could cause offence however, and if an intimidation attempt leads all the way to rape you will definitely not be popular!!!!

3.? Possible integration with this blushing mod assuming there are no complications

4. Options to romance your target in advance of propositioning them for sex, in an attempt to soften them up."

My guess is he wrote that in 2015 since his last changelog is from 2014. Needless to say he never rewrote the mod unfortunately. But the comments above might provide some inspiration of what features you might add. Point 1, having other NPCs proposition the PC sounds cool, but it might be difficult. For Point 2, I don't know if anyone has already done "offer to pay for sex." Now the idea of trying to bully someone into sex sounds kind of cool. Point 3 - I don't know what he's talking about . Point 4 Options to romance target - this might be the one for you to work on. Perhaps include a gift-giving system. Not sure how else to "romance" an NPC? Perhaps have them sing to the NPC or play an instrument? (With extra points if you've been to the Bards College!)

My own thoughts?

1. Something that I think would be easy to do would be change the "verbiage" in the dialog trees. Too many things seem to be phrased in "guy" sort of way as opposed to the way a woman would talk.

2. Another idea - jealousy. Your PC shouldn't be allowed to romance multiple NPCs in the same town and get away with it. One or both should dump you after finding out about the "other woman/man". Shouldn't be able to do both Carlotta and Ysolde at the same time.

3. Generally speaking, the dialog about "what you have in mind?" is good about indicating who you want on top and whether you're looking for an aggressive or non-aggressive animation. Even so, I find that it frequently doesn't select the animations I want. So perhaps set it up so that you can specifically select the animation you want. Or maybe, set up in the MCM, which animations you want tied to each option. So, for example, for the "treat me like a whore option," you select the 10 best aggressive animations you like.

Anyhow, hope this is food for thought. As a new modder, if you seamlessly add one improvement to this mod, you will have done something good! And then you move on to the next improvement...

skyrim482 · May 13, 2020

He isnt the original author. I doubt the original is active but you may be able to find where they have given permission.

If not I would just re create in your own way something similar and continue from there. I like the idea of this mod, there are enough direct prostitution mods out there. This one Make you talk to the npc a bit, but the original mod was only a 2 step dialogue. Some ideas You could expand the flirting and see where that goes. You could possibly be friends with an npc first. You could find out about their favorite positions. I like the ideas posted by rodrigo2 too.

rodrigo2 · May 13, 2020

1 hour ago, skyrim482 said:

He isnt the original author. I doubt the original is active but you may be able to find where they have given permission.

If not I would just re create in your own way something similar and continue from there. I like the idea of this mod, there are enough direct prostitution mods out there. This one Make you talk to the npc a bit, but the original mod was only a 2 step dialogue. Some ideas You could expand the flirting and see where that goes. You could possibly be friends with an npc first. You could find out about their favorite positions. I like the ideas posted by rodrigo2 too.

This is from the mod author:

"Note: Development of this version of SexLab Romance has ceased, after being away for so long and seeing the advancements in SexLab, including some excellent new mods, a complete redesign of this mod is in order, possibly with a complete rewrite from the ground up. Because of this I have uploaded the source code for the scripts so that anyone who wishes to make changes or use anything within this mod for there own purposes is free to do so while I look at the possibility of creating a whole new RPG based romance mod. "

It's based on this that Nomkaz felt it was okay to port this to SSE. So making other adjustments shouldn't be a problem either. The author - Spaceman - hasn't posted to LL since 2017 so I doubt it's even possible to reach him.

GlibbaGlabba · May 13, 2020

14 hours ago, rodrigo2 said:

More power to you! It's sad so many of the modders Who came out with these mods five or more years ago have moved on. LL could definitely use new blood!! Nomkaz likely won't object. In his self description, he says he doesn't create new mods, he just ports Oldrim mods over to SSE. (Which is loads more than I can do! ) As to what to add, hmmm....the original mode wrote at the end of the mod description (before Nomkaz ported it to SSE):

"Future versions of this mod will include the following:

1. NPC's approaching and propositioning you for sex

2. An option to offer money or gifts for sex / Intimidate for sex (leading to rape if you let it) if an NPC turns you down, offering money for sex could cause offence however, and if an intimidation attempt leads all the way to rape you will definitely not be popular!!!!

3.? Possible integration with this blushing mod assuming there are no complications

4. Options to romance your target in advance of propositioning them for sex, in an attempt to soften them up."

My guess is he wrote that in 2015 since his last changelog is from 2014. Needless to say he never rewrote the mod unfortunately. But the comments above might provide some inspiration of what features you might add. Point 1, having other NPCs proposition the PC sounds cool, but it might be difficult. For Point 2, I don't know if anyone has already done "offer to pay for sex." Now the idea of trying to bully someone into sex sounds kind of cool. Point 3 - I don't know what he's talking about . Point 4 Options to romance target - this might be the one for you to work on. Perhaps include a gift-giving system. Not sure how else to "romance" an NPC? Perhaps have them sing to the NPC or play an instrument? (With extra points if you've been to the Bards College!)

My own thoughts?

1. Something that I think would be easy to do would be change the "verbiage" in the dialog trees. Too many things seem to be phrased in "guy" sort of way as opposed to the way a woman would talk.

2. Another idea - jealousy. Your PC shouldn't be allowed to romance multiple NPCs in the same town and get away with it. One or both should dump you after finding out about the "other woman/man". Shouldn't be able to do both Carlotta and Ysolde at the same time.

3. Generally speaking, the dialog about "what you have in mind?" is good about indicating who you want on top and whether you're looking for an aggressive or non-aggressive animation. Even so, I find that it frequently doesn't select the animations I want. So perhaps set it up so that you can specifically select the animation you want. Or maybe, set up in the MCM, which animations you want tied to each option. So, for example, for the "treat me like a whore option," you select the 10 best aggressive animations you like.

Anyhow, hope this is food for thought. As a new modder, if you seamlessly add one improvement to this mod, you will have done something good! And then you move on to the next improvement...

I don't think anyone will object either, but it can't hurt to ask.

About originals authors plans:

1: Ain't gonna happen. Too complicated and in my opinion too intrusive.

2: Would like to do that, not sure if I'm able. But I think I have an idea for that that could maybe work... But this will be low priority for now. I'll do some smaller and easier stuff first.

3: No idea what mod that is, but would be cool. Probably too complex for me to do though. Mod may be dead too.

4: If I can wrap my head around the scripts, this should be fairly easy.

About your ideas:

1: This is the first thing I can do and am already working on, with a little surprise if everything works out

2: No idea how I would even begin to implement that. I'll give it some more thought when the other stuff is finished. Until the you just gotta restrain yourself not to get too greedy

3: This is scripting work, more about that later.

About my ideas:

1: Same as yours, but with a twist. Basically make the talk more immersive. Less "I WANT TO SUCK YOUR COCK" and more "I'd like a taste of your manhood" or some other medieval talk like that. I'll read "The lusty argonian maid" for some inspiration.

2: Better progression in the relationship. It's a bit weird that someone you just met is okay with immediately getting their asshole ravaged or doing some kinky roleplay. I can probably achieve this, at least partly, with no scripting.

About the scripts:

I have never done any papyrus scripting at all and it seems to be a pain in the ass to do. Spacemans source scripts look pretty messy too. If I'm not mistaken, there are some mistakes that actually prevent the mod from working as intended right now. It is still perfectly usable of course, In short: I ain't touching that anytime soon. I'd rather remake the entire mod from scratch. If someone could point the way to an introduction about SexLabFramework and SKSE scripting, that be a big help.

Summary:

Basically, I'll do some smaller changes first. This may be done in a month or so. If you're lucky there may be a preview version with a proof-of-concept.

When this is done, maybe I'll start looking into scripting and remaking the mod.

But as I said earlier, I won't have much time to invest in this in the foreseeable future. It is possible that I won't be active on here for a long time, but rest assured: I'll be working on this, though probably very slowly.

rodrigo2 · May 13, 2020

45 minutes ago, GlibbaGlabba said:

I don't think anyone will object either, but it can't hurt to ask.

About originals authors plans:

1: Ain't gonna happen. Too complicated and in my opinion too intrusive.

2: Would like to do that, not sure if I'm able. But I think I have an idea for that that could maybe work... But this will be low priority for now. I'll do some smaller and easier stuff first.

3: No idea what mod that is, but would be cool. Probably too complex for me to do though. Mod may be dead too.

4: If I can wrap my head around the scripts, this should be fairly easy.

About your ideas:

1: This is the first thing I can do and am already working on, with a little surprise if everything works out

2: No idea how I would even begin to implement that. I'll give it some more thought when the other stuff is finished. Until the you just gotta restrain yourself not to get too greedy

3: This is scripting work, more about that later.

About my ideas:

1: Same as yours, but with a twist. Basically make the talk more immersive. Less "I WANT TO SUCK YOUR COCK" and more "I'd like a taste of your manhood" or some other medieval talk like that. I'll read "The lusty argonian maid" for some inspiration.

2: Better progression in the relationship. It's a bit weird that someone you just met is okay with immediately getting their asshole ravaged or doing some kinky roleplay. I can probably achieve this, at least partly, with no scripting.

About the scripts:

I have never done any papyrus scripting at all and it seems to be a pain in the ass to do. Spacemans source scripts look pretty messy too. If I'm not mistaken, there are some mistakes that actually prevent the mod from working as intended right now. It is still perfectly usable of course, In short: I ain't touching that anytime soon. I'd rather remake the entire mod from scratch. If someone could point the way to an introduction about SexLabFramework and SKSE scripting, that be a big help.

Summary:

Basically, I'll do some smaller changes first. This may be done in a month or so. If you're lucky there may be a preview version with a proof-of-concept.

When this is done, maybe I'll start looking into scripting and remaking the mod.

But as I said earlier, I won't have much time to invest in this in the foreseeable future. It is possible that I won't be active on here for a long time, but rest assured: I'll be working on this, though probably very slowly.

Cool! Modders do what they do for the love of the game, but we all got to make a living so...priorities! And you're right - start off simple, then take baby steps to accomplish more difficult tasks. ("Rome wasn't built in day" as the old bit of wisdom goes!) And I do like your idea about using more "medieval" language. Too much modern English with modern slang tends to break immersion. I do like your ideas about "Better progression in the relationship." Perhaps start off with foreplay animations -- focusing on kissing and petting.

I would like to learn to mod myself; if there are any good tutorials out there, please point me in the right direction. Regarding "SexLabFramework and SKSE scripting", if I find anything, I'll let you know. There's a lot of stuff on the LL site, but it's sometimes hard to find. Add to that the differences between Oldrim and SSE.....well you get the idea! Good luck! I'd be glad to test anything you come up with!

GlibbaGlabba · May 14, 2020

BEHOLD! The almighty preview. Made with hate.

I think you can just replace the old version with this one. No special update procedure. But make a backup of your save in case something goes wrong. When I tested it, there was some script-fuckery going on that I hopefully removed.

Things to look at:

Dialogue - I Changed some of the lines to be more immersive. Feedback would be nice.
Try to give someone a footjob or "treat them like the scum they are". If everything works, the subject should tell you to fuck off, if you hadn't had sex before.
Wait until the cooldown has ended (I think 2 hrs, but could be 2 days). Do some normal sex-stuff and the wait again to see if the partner accepts feet and roleplay after.
Be sure to play with sound.

If you want to mod, this guy has some good tutorials : https://www.youtube.com/user/DARKF0X127

I'll be away for some time, take care my dumplings ❤️

SexLab Romance SE (update preview).7z

rodrigo2 · May 15, 2020

Cool! I just installed it, so let's see what happens! Ty for the tutorial rec! I'll take a look at this guy's vids.

rodrigo2 · May 16, 2020

I've given it a quick check using a female PC. When an NPC responds positively to the PC's sexual overtures and a location has been found for sexual relations, the dialog window gives the PC 14 options. 7 or more options seem applicable to a male PC; the remaining options for a female PC. Is there any way to configure the mod so that it will give a male PC only the male options and a female PC only the female options? If that's not possible, then I would recommend two versions: one with dialog options for male PC, the other for a female PC.

Regarding verbiage, I do like the idea of crude/rude options. Now are these always intended to draw a negative response from the targeted female NPC? Ideally, the mod would be calibrated so that "proper" females would turn the PC down while "tavern wench" NPCs might think a crude proposition is funny and respond favorably.

I think the male verbiage needs some tweaking. Do you know any female Skyrim players? Some female input on female dialog options might help.

nomkaz · May 16, 2020

On 5/12/2020 at 12:27 PM, GlibbaGlabba said:

You're in luck.

If nomkaz is okay with it, I'll take over this mod. I have some ideas that already worked in small scale tests. I'm not an experienced modder or know how to script but I'm confident that I can make this mod a lot better.

If you have any wishes or ideas, just say the word. But keep in mind that I will keep this mod small, simple and immersive.

I'm pretty busy irl right now though, so don't expect something anytime soon.

You can 100% "take over" this mod, especially if you have fixes and added content. Just let me know and I'll remove this upload, and link to yours instead. Just let me know.

Littletree34 · May 18, 2020

I finally figured out why this mod didnt work for me, some of the dialog options are hidden when using the alternate conversation camera mod, to fix this issue you need to adjust the conversation camera INI file and change bHideDialogeMenu value to 0, that will fix your problem INI file is located in your SKSE plugins

GlibbaGlabba · May 24, 2020

On 5/16/2020 at 4:44 AM, rodrigo2 said:

I've given it a quick check using a female PC. When an NPC responds positively to the PC's sexual overtures and a location has been found for sexual relations, the dialog window gives the PC 14 options. 7 or more options seem applicable to a male PC; the remaining options for a female PC. Is there any way to configure the mod so that it will give a male PC only the male options and a female PC only the female options? If that's not possible, then I would recommend two versions: one with dialog options for male PC, the other for a female PC.

Regarding verbiage, I do like the idea of crude/rude options. Now are these always intended to draw a negative response from the targeted female NPC? Ideally, the mod would be calibrated so that "proper" females would turn the PC down while "tavern wench" NPCs might think a crude proposition is funny and respond favorably.

I think the male verbiage needs some tweaking. Do you know any female Skyrim players? Some female input on female dialog options might help.

Can you tell me which options exactly? The dialogue options should be gendered by default. The "crude" options are the replacer for the rough sex initiator. They will always be rejected, if the NPC hasn't been romanced before. This was mainly a test.

Further discussion of this is welcome at the SexLab Romance SE Rekindled Thread.

Mantissa · May 25, 2020

I've had this mod in my load order for quite a long while. I never much liked Sexlab match making spells. This was exactly what I was looking for, it's more .. immersive.

This mod keeps suprising me. It's amazing how situationally aware Sexlab Romance seems. Whoever made this did a great job. Thanks!

*Vyxenne* · September 10, 2020

On 5/15/2020 at 9:44 PM, rodrigo2 said:

Do you know any female Skyrim players?

*Raises hand tentatively*

rodrigo2 · September 10, 2020

11 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

*Raises hand tentatively*

Cool! I know there are plenty of women who play Skyrim but wasn't quite sure how well-represented women would be at the LL site. Have you looked over the Romance mod's dialogue options? Both old and new version? If your PC is female, do the dialog options seem feminine enough? When your PC is propositioning male NPCs? Or other females?

*Vyxenne* · September 11, 2020

12 hours ago, rodrigo2 said:

Cool! I know there are plenty of women who play Skyrim but wasn't quite sure how well-represented women would be at the LL site. Have you looked over the Romance mod's dialogue options? Both old and new version? If your PC is female, do the dialog options seem feminine enough? When your PC is propositioning male NPCs? Or other females?

I installed the new-dialog version and it seems about right to me for the most part. I would love more complex, flirty dialog sequences where I say "Hi there, handsome!" and he says "Well, hello, pretty lady! Can I buy you a Colovian Brandy?" and I say "Only if you'll tell me what turns you on so I can be sure to do it while we drink the brandy!" and he says "Just keep taking those deep breaths, Baby! -=[stares at my pokies as I flaunt them at him]=- Oh wow, this nipply Skyrim weather is perfect for you Nords..." and so forth... not that I've thought about it or anything.... :classic_biggrin:

...but then Romance wouldn't be the light-weight mod that it is. So yeah, I think it's about right.

rodrigo2 · September 11, 2020

4 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

I installed the new-dialog version and it seems about right to me for the most part. I would love more complex, flirty dialog sequences where I say "Hi there, handsome!" and he says "Well, hello, pretty lady! Can I buy you a Colovian Brandy?" and I say "Only if you'll tell me what turns you on so I can be sure to do it while we drink the brandy!" and he says "Just keep taking those deep breaths, Baby! -=[stares at my pokies as I flaunt them at him]=- Oh wow, this nipply Skyrim weather is perfect for you Nords..." and so forth... not that I've thought about it or anything....

...but then Romance wouldn't be the light-weight mod that it is. So yeah, I think it's about right.

I like the way you think! ? Just curious; what LL mods do you typically use?

*Vyxenne* · September 12, 2020

On 9/11/2020 at 4:25 AM, rodrigo2 said:

I like the way you think! ? Just curious; what LL mods do you typically use?

Just SexLab, Matchmaker and Romance- oh, and Amorous Adventures.

I had Scent of Sex and SLEN installed, hoping for opening lines with a flirty flavor, but what I got was force-greets with a rapey flavor (no dialog, no warning, just BAM! I'm suddenly stopped dead in my tracks with no chance to say "OMG not right now!" and the sex begins) ... So I disabled those two while I try to figure out if there is some MCM option that would give me a middle ground between no force-greets at all and BLAM! That said, I do miss the wonderful sound of moaning and yodeling coming from all around whenever I visit the Blue Palace... :classic_biggrin:

You know how that rude Redguard in Whiterun always says "Do you get to the Cloud District very often? No, of course you don't..." That encounter occurs without an actual force-greet... he doesn't nail my toes to the ground (stop me in my tracks with a force-greet), I can just keep walking and ignore his rudeness if I want to (or, if it's night time, wait until I'm in the shadows and thank him for his arrogance and rudeness with a well-placed arrow). What I keep hoping for is a flirty encounter like that, with cheesy pick-up lines like "Hey there, hotness! I'm all out of plums, so how 'bout a date?" or "I bet if you feel my shirt you'll be able to tell I'm boyfriend material!" etc. etc. It would even be cool for him to say "I sure would like to get in your pants, girlie!" as long as one of my response options is "Aw, what a shame, I only have room in there for one asshole."

I guess the key for me is to start with a non-arresting flirt, even a whistle or a catcall, and let me decide whether to escalate or decline or simply ignore it. And if there is any non-consensual outcome/dialog possible, at least it should be a disablable option in the MCM, not a random dice-roll for chance of inescapable rape.

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