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I'm getting more and more tired of random crashes its making me lose my shit on having to constantly be on edge when i am about to crash, anyone know how i can make my game 75% more stable.

 

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
EFFCore.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
NewStyleEyes.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
RaceCompatibility.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
SPIKE.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
TKChildren.esm
AzarHair.esm
notice board.esp
LevelersTower.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
TouringCarriages.esp
TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
iActivate.esp
ABT - Progressive Damage (Vanilla).esp
AnonymousPeople.esp
Brows.esp
KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
PlayableHybridRace.esp
iHUD.esp
ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Civil War Cleanup.esp
VOBS.esp
UIExtensions.esp
ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (Vanilla) +50%.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
CraftableClothes.esp
Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
ABT - Recover 10% Less Arrows and Bolts.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
TrueBrows.esp
FreckleMania2.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RaceMenu.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Enhanced Landscapes.esp
Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
AddItemMenu2.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
Immersive detection of NPC.esp
Remodeled Armor.esp
FNIS.esp
FreckleMania.esp
10 extra effect.esp
Beards.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
LuxBrows.esp
TKChildren_HF.esp
MoonGlow.esp
NPCWaterAIScripted.esp
XPMSE.esp
No NPC Greetings.esp
NoxWCC.esp
Random Improvements.esp
Quickshot.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
BetterMagic_FULL.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
VioLens.esp
SkyUI.esp
Dual Hand Combo Hotkeys.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
VHTNF.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Beasts of Tamriel.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
OBIS.esp
DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
ScottishBanneredMare.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
Northern Bathhouses.esp
ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp
Riverwood Redeveloped.esp
Morthal walls.esp
DawnofSolitude.esp
ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
DawnofWhiterun.esp
TKChildren_V.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
Enhanced Landscapes - Solstheim.esp
ETaC - Karthwasten.esp
Immersive Stonehills.esp
JK's Winterhold.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Immersive Shors Stone.esp
Morthal Mall.esp
Cloaks.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar ELFX Patch.esp
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
JKs LITE - Riften.esp
Superior Rorikstead.esp
Super Food.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
WindPath.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
Populated Forts Towers Places.esp
JK's Ivarstead.esp
Colorful_Magic.esp
Enhanced Landscapes - DLC Patch.esp
DawnofMarkarth.esp
Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp
TKChildren_DB.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Facelight.esp
TrueEyes.esp
Unconscious.esp
Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
SabreFurBag.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
Arcanum.esp
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
ssapbwk.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
CandyShopsSolitude.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar LoS Patch.esp
MidasSkyrim.esp
Midas Magic Expanded.esp
RavenCastle.esp
CandyShopsWhiterun.esp
Dii Illiistaad.esp
JKs SuperLITE - Windhelm.esp
Missives.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Immersive Speechcraft.esp
dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
zzSunDamage.esp
CollyPoser.esp
Poser Hotkeys.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
ScreenshotPad.esp
Public Poser.esp
cpkinokopose.esp
GPPoses.esp
LarmirPose.esp
RenderPoses.esp
WulfPoser.esp
MemePoser.esp
CandyShopsWindhelm.esp
Item Recycling.esp
Halo's Poser.esp
No_stretching.esp
NiOverridePoseAdjustments.esp
Pupetteer Master.esp
OBISDB.esp
dD-Medium Script Range.esp
dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
FXProjectilesItems.esp
FXRings.esp
PonzuEffectRing.esp
00FacialExpressions.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
HTools.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp
SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
SexLabTools.esp
THMeeko.esp
ETaC - Shors Stone LoS Patch.esp
ETaC - Darkwater Crossing LoS Patch.esp
ETaC - Karthwasten LoS Patch.esp
SolitudeWolfTower.esp
ETaC - Kynesgrove LoS Patch.esp
LevelersTower.esp
Equipping Overhaul.esp
notice board - dragonborn patch.esp
SkyTestPuppyChanges.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
ther1ppers Followers.esp
Heavy-IronCouple.esp
Sai's Condensed Follower Index-beta.esp
RosaFollower.esp
ther1ppers Villains.esp
RobesReplacerStandalone.esp
_GSPoses.esp
ArrowInTheEverywhere_Ultra.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
DynDOLOD.esp

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Use Loot (not inbuilt mo loot, it is outdated), clean the plugins with tes5edit and create merged patch using wrye bash. Try to keep number of animations under 8500, regularly clean your save game using save tools. Also if you are not using dlcs (dragonborn etc), disable them as they add huge number of scripts, that makes game unstable. Works for my potato with AMD R7 M440 with 206 plugins. Finally tweak enblocal.ini according to your pc and step wiki.

Posted
28 minutes ago, YourFriendlyDragonborn said:

Use Loot (not inbuilt mo loot, it is outdated),

do nothing about ctd (unless you crash before main menu because you have defeat above sexlab...)

 

28 minutes ago, YourFriendlyDragonborn said:

clean the plugins with tes5edit and create merged patch using wrye bash.

do nothing about ctd, and in some mod description it's said to not do it on that mod (unmodified record from skyrim.esm isn't a dirty edit, it's there in case you have a mod that edit that record)

 

28 minutes ago, YourFriendlyDragonborn said:

Try to keep number of animations under 8500

it's not animations, it's idle

standindstill, sit, useforge

running animation, it's running1, then running2, then running3, then running 2, then running1

and if you have too much, game won't be able to load walking, standing or whatever, so you ctd on load, he don't ctd on load

 

28 minutes ago, YourFriendlyDragonborn said:

regularly clean your save game using save tools.

you don't mess with the save, even more if you have no idea what you are doing

you enter whiterun for the first time, aela was there, now she is somewhere else, the save it's that

you pick dialog x, you talk again to that npc, dialog x is no longer white, it was put in the you have already blabla that

you do quest x, edited by mod y, that have a few errors here and there, he didn't bother fixing that so it's small stuff, npc won't unequip his weapon, equip something, open a door for you, whatever

if you click and fix broken scripts in savegamecleaner, quest x script is deleted because of those errors

and the result is a much bigger mess than the small stuff that wasn't working

 

28 minutes ago, YourFriendlyDragonborn said:

 Also if you are not using dlcs (dragonborn etc), disable them as they add huge number of scripts, that makes game unstable.

you can't ctd because of scripts

but just for lol

 

dawnguard and dragonborn are 3400 .pex

ctrl tif in that, there's 1955 results

 

tif are nothing, it's dialog scripts

i have 5523 tif for skyrim, you blabla with a npc, you accept to bring 5 potato, dialog have a script tif_xxyyyyyy, that is just start quest bringing potato

you came back, and blabla here's your potato, there's a tif_thatdialogrecord, that is just end quest bringing potato

 

and 4446 non tif scripts that aren't tif, that aren't much either

that can be breezhome door that check you have the key in your inventory

vampire script that change your race

trap script that send a fireball or whatever to your face

and mostly quests scripts, siegewhiterun spawn some npc near whiterun, for that siege, it's the script quest that do that

 

from mods i have 7084 tif , and 2560 non tif (it's more than dlc, it's supposed to make my game unstable?)

 

 

anyway, if you want to ctd less.... why not fix those ctd?

most ctd are ram ctd, if you open the crash dump, i bet it's c005 (memory that doesn't exist allocate to x.exe, so exe crash)

then it's rare most will never have to fix

 

tbbp armor without tbbp skeleton, you skeleton ctd (that can't happen to you? mod x add wolf pupies, that use wolf skeleton, mod y replace wolf with pikachu, wolf pupie with pikachu skeleton, skeleton ctd)

navmesh conflicts (mod x add house somewhere, mod y add cave in the same cell, you no longer have mod x house destination in navmesh, ctd)

broken npc ( you install mod x that edit some headpart, high poly head, high poly mouth or whatever, conflict with mod y npc head nif, most get grey face npc, but if a headpart from x use extraheadpart that is something already giving to that npc, it's a ctd)

etc etc, every time the game can't load something, it's a ctd

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted

Woah, so many mods and not even an automated merged patch? You should really look into at least creating an automated one with TES5Edit, better yet make it by hand, and let wrye bash take care of your leveled lists. Also look into properly configuring your ENB if you use one and into properly configuring crash fixes.

Posted
10 minutes ago, Ruffled Pigeon said:

Woah, so many mods and not even an automated merged patch? You should really look into at least creating an automated one with TES5Edit, better yet make it by hand,

Why? What has that got to do with CTDs?

I have about 240 plug-ins and 300 mods. I have never used a merged or bashed patch.

 

Crash Fixes, ENBoost if not using an ENB preset and SKSE Plug-in Preloader. These three will eliminate most  in-game CTDs.

 

To help your game:

Get rid of the HI-Res Texture packs and use one the better replacers out there.

Get rid of all those individual JK's and install JK's Lite. Less buggy and less resource hungry. I use JK's Lite and it is one esp plus one for the minor settlements add-on.

I'd also have a look at all those ETaC patches. Patches for what?

 

You have quite a few mods adding NPCs to your game. All those NPCs require reources.

 

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp

Not needed, XPMSE skeleton does ragdolling.

 

I would watch your animation numbers. As a rough rule of thumb, FNIS will handle between 10 and 12k; FNIS XXL between 12 and 14K. Some can do more and seom less. Too many animations cause CTD on game load.

Posted
55 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Why? What has that got to do with CTDs?

I have about 240 plug-ins and 300 mods. I have never used a merged or bashed patch.

 

Crash Fixes, ENBoost if not using an ENB preset and SKSE Plug-in Preloader. These three will eliminate most  in-game CTDs.

 

To help your game:

Get rid of the HI-Res Texture packs and use one the better replacers out there.

Get rid of all those individual JK's and install JK's Lite. Less buggy and less resource hungry. I use JK's Lite and it is one esp plus one for the minor settlements add-on.

I'd also have a look at all those ETaC patches. Patches for what?

 

You have quite a few mods adding NPCs to your game. All those NPCs require reources.

 

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp

Not needed, XPMSE skeleton does ragdolling.

 

I would watch your animation numbers. As a rough rule of thumb, FNIS will handle between 10 and 12k; FNIS XXL between 12 and 14K. Some can do more and seom less. Too many animations cause CTD on game load.

So i only use the regular JK on two cities, neither i go to often being Winterhold and Ivarstead, the others are lite versions. I believe most of the patches are for lanterns of skyrim i don't remember what the exact mod is though.

 

Its mainly sexlab that adds the most animations, i might just uninstall funnybiz animations, his take up the most room but i use them the least, will keep it for when i need it again. The poser mods i have to keep due to what i'm using them for, gonna try and see what mods are redudent though. I want to keep using the Skyrim Community Texture Project but i need a lite version, know where i can find that?

 

edit: nevermind found it, i'm not even sure why i was using 4k, Blazingsai even warned me about that but i still did it.

Posted

In addition to JK's Lite being less buggy etc, it is also better to have one mod which requires one esp than several mods requiring several esps. You never know when you wil need thos extra slots.

 

Again with the patches. They are taking up slots for what? Find another mod which does the same but without the need for all the patches.

 

Your poser mods will add animations too. No need to get rid of any if you are not crashing on game load. Just be aware that if you do start crashing on load then disable animations until it loads.

 

Never heard of the Skyrim Community Texture Project so I can't help you there.

Posted
4 hours ago, ther1pper said:

'm getting more and more tired of random crashes its making me lose my shit on having to constantly be on edge when i am about to crash, anyone know how i can make my game 75% more stable.

SKSE Memory Patch

Crash Fixes 12

ENB in Boost mode

BethIni

 

Run LOOT and configure ENB. If problem persist disable your DynDoLod.

Skyrim only make CTD by bad configuration or bad nif. I play for 4 or 6 consecutive hours with 237 pluging, half of them from this site, no merge, no bashed, no clean master, near 12k animations... cero problems...

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