Spank That Ass

[Skata20]

To this day I still can’t make this work for me.

Out of the 10 rape scenes, 2-3 of them will show a rape notification, only once and that’s it.

i get no pain whatsoever unless I bump into someone, literally.

 

Also I hope slso wasn’t a hard dependency (even though I disabled it, STA was searching for it) because it’s an unnecessary mess which makes sex incredibly complicated 

 

I hope I can make this duo work someday

[Lupine00]

14 hours ago, legraf said:

I assumed you were using metaphor when saying you hadn't "heard" these lines, though Monoman1's response considers you were talking about actual voiced lines.  Just in case: the lines are displayed in the usual top-left area, a quick glance (I haven't checked carefully to be certain this is the right display routine) suggests they use debug.notification() and they are only sent in 3rd-person non-free-camera mode:

Neither seen nor heard. I see ... some messages ... but nothing like that.

Apropos used to bury everything but I have that off now. Still not noticing stuff.

But I put StA 3.3 in last night, so we'll see if that changes anything.

[strikemasterz]

Pretty sure this was not intentional, but this mod also applies during creature animations. Takes a bit out of immersion when Meeko asks me to do it faster

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, strikemasterz said:

Pretty sure this was not intentional, but this mod also applies during creature animations. Takes a bit out of immersion when Meeko asks me to do it faster

Yea it's a known bug. It seems to happen after the comment when the npc is about to cum.

 

[seanthiar]

Speaking of bugs - I think I stumbled over one in "Spank that Ass". The bug is kind of bothersome because it's sporadic and I searched for the cause some time.  I used different combinations of mods and started every time with a new game/install (clean install because of the use of modorganizer). Standard every time were Sexlab, Devious Devices 4.3a and it's requirements. The problem is, it is not an error like a CTD, crash or something like that and it does not show any error message in any log. That was the cause it was such time consuming to find the cause. It tested only with StA 2.1 and 3.3 and with 2.1 only because I wanted to check if I got the bug with the older version.

Ok the bug effects - I think - two (maybe three) parts. Part 1 is when I use StA it takes little time and even without any spanking I get a spell effect "pain" . On mouseover there is a message like "tits and ass are aching and the pain drops stamina and magicka by 0 points" (I does not have the exact text in my head). Because of this text I think I'm right when I say that's an effect caused by StA. Dropping this effect with the console with dispelall.... does not work, same for prayers at an altar. I thought nothing of it because a drop by 0 points is something I thought I could ignore. But as part 2 even with 0 points it has an effect - sometimes if you get in a fight ( I recognized this with some wolves) and get hurt, you can maybe kill one enemy and then your damage is naught, null, nothing, not existent - only way to survive is a follower or when alone summoning a familiar or something like that. Healing is not enough to get the damage back, it takes some time out of fightmodus to get the damage back. Weapons show damage 0 at mouseover in the inventory until you are "fit" again. The no damage effect includes direct magic (flames or something like that) and shouts either. Part 3 is fast travel - With "pain" active it blocks fast travel. Save, logout, disable StA and reload and fast travel works. Save, logout and reload and fast travel does still not work. A workaround is open the map, open the console, use "enablefasttravel 1", close console and immediatly travel to your target. Closing the map or waiting to long and fast travel is disabled again. Sometimes I don't know why - I suspect heavy scriptload - it even works a few minutes.
With StA not installed/disabled the pain-effect does not appear and the follow-up-error in part 2 with 0 damage does not appear either. Same for fast travel, you got only the normal messages like enemy near or this is an area where fast travel not work or when you have a quest that disables fasttravel like in cursed loot.

[Monoman1]

33 minutes ago, seanthiar said:

Speaking of bugs - I think I stumbled over one in "Spank that Ass". The bug is kind of bothersome because it's sporadic and I searched for the cause some time.  I used different combinations of mods and started every time with a new game/install (clean install because of the use of modorganizer). Standard every time were Sexlab, Devious Devices 4.3a and it's requirements. The problem is, it is not an error like a CTD, crash or something like that and it does not show any error message in any log. That was the cause it was such time consuming to find the cause. It tested only with StA 2.1 and 3.3 and with 2.1 only because I wanted to check if I got the bug with the older version.

Ok the bug effects - I think - two (maybe three) parts. Part 1 is when I use StA it takes little time and even without any spanking I get a spell effect "pain" . On mouseover there is a message like "tits and ass are aching and the pain drops stamina and magicka by 0 points" (I does not have the exact text in my head). Because of this text I think I'm right when I say that's an effect caused by StA. Dropping this effect with the console with dispelall.... does not work, same for prayers at an altar. I thought nothing of it because a drop by 0 points is something I thought I could ignore. But as part 2 even with 0 points it has an effect - sometimes if you get in a fight ( I recognized this with some wolves) and get hurt, you can maybe kill one enemy and then your damage is naught, null, nothing, not existent - only way to survive is a follower or when alone summoning a familiar or something like that. Healing is not enough to get the damage back, it takes some time out of fightmodus to get the damage back. Weapons show damage 0 at mouseover in the inventory until you are "fit" again. The no damage effect includes direct magic (flames or something like that) and shouts either. Part 3 is fast travel - With "pain" active it blocks fast travel. Save, logout, disable StA and reload and fast travel works. Save, logout and reload and fast travel does still not work. A workaround is open the map, open the console, use "enablefasttravel 1", close console and immediatly travel to your target. Closing the map or waiting to long and fast travel is disabled again. Sometimes I don't know why - I suspect heavy scriptload - it even works a few minutes.
With StA not installed/disabled the pain-effect does not appear and the follow-up-error in part 2 with 0 damage does not appear either. Same for fast travel, you got only the normal messages like enemy near or this is an area where fast travel not work or when you have a quest that disables fasttravel like in cursed loot.

No sorry. But I don't think this is anything to do with STA. 

 

1. You're the first person to report anything like this.

2. STA contains no damage modifiers. SL Survival does however. 

3. Pain is a straight health/stamina/magicka buff/debuff. You can check it yourself in tesedit. 

4. You can dispel the spell via console and test. 'Help pain'. Player.RemoveSpell xxxxxxxx. There will be 3 pain spells listed. If you're not a masochist then it'll be the top most spell. 

5. The active effects window is not capable of displaying fractions which is why you get pain 0. When in actual fact it's probably really 0.8 or whatever. 

[seanthiar]

19 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

No sorry. But I don't think this is anything to do with STA. 

 

1. You're the first person to report anything like this.

2. STA contains no damage modifiers. SL Survival does however. 

3. Pain is a straight health/stamina/magicka buff/debuff. You can check it yourself in tesedit. 

4. You can dispel the spell via console and test. 'Help pain'. Player.RemoveSpell xxxxxxxx. There will be 3 pain spells listed. If you're not a masochist then it'll be the top most spell. 

5. The active effects window is not capable of displaying fractions which is why you get pain 0. When in actual fact it's probably really 0.8 or whatever. 

1. maybe I'm the first one recognizing, It took months to find the mod that causes the effect. The problem is it works a time without problem and then appears the bug. And if it appears one time the appearance gets more frequent. I can only say, that when I disable STA the bug does not appear not matter how long I play...... - It's no proof, only an educated guess.

2. no, never used or installed that mod - only StA, Sexlab, DDa,DDi & DDe & requirements and the bug appears 

3.+4. It leaves still the question open you ignored - why does pain appear when nothing happened to cause pain ? There isn't any cause to get pain - One time pain appeared in a hour real time while leaving the char idle waiting in the prison cell in alternate start. I got hungry after creating the char, left it idle in the cell ready to start with the bed and made & ate dinner. Back from dinner the char got pain. Why and how ? - And before you get that idea - no I don't use need mods, just a normal vanilla char and the started mods listed under No. 2 and StA Status was still at 0.

[Monoman1]

18 minutes ago, seanthiar said:

1. maybe I'm the first one recognizing, It took months to find the mod that causes the effect. The problem is it works a time without problem and then appears the bug. And if it appears one time the appearance gets more frequent. I can only say, that when I disable STA the bug does not appear not matter how long I play...... - It's no proof, only an educated guess.

2. no, never used or installed that mod - only StA, Sexlab, DDa,DDi & DDe & requirements and the bug appears 

3.+4. It leaves still the question open you ignored - why does pain appear when nothing happened to cause pain ? There isn't any cause to get pain - One time pain appeared in a hour real time while leaving the char idle waiting in the prison cell in alternate start. I got hungry after creating the char, left it idle in the cell ready to start with the bed and made & ate dinner. Back from dinner the char got pain. Why and how ? - And before you get that idea - no I don't use need mods, just a normal vanilla char and the started mods listed under No. 2 and StA Status was still at 0.

That's just pain being reduced as time goes on - pain is reduced by regular updates. Did you try removing the spell when you get the bug? 

[Lupine00]

Speaking of pain...

 

I have my max pain set to 30, but see modifier values reported in the magic menu of 60. Is this normal?

 

 

And going a little further...

 

Once you're a masochist, it would be nice to have ways to get spanked reliably.

e.g. If you could go up to an NPC and beg for spanks?

 

And if they agree, you get one of the dedicated spanking animations, like the throne spanking?

[Monoman1]

3 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Speaking of pain...

 

I have my max pain set to 30, but see modifier values reported in the magic menu of 60. Is this normal?

Yup. That's the 'base' pain. De/Buffs are doubled at either end of the masochism spectrum. 

If you want 30 max, set it to 15. I guess I could have done that better. 

4 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Once you're a masochist, it would be nice to have ways to get spanked reliably.

e.g. If you could go up to an NPC and beg for spanks?

 

And if they agree, you get one of the dedicated spanking animations, like the throne spanking?

I know, I know. STA has fallen behind a bit. Focused on other mods for the moment. If only I didn't have this pesky RL stuff

[seanthiar]

13 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

That's just pain being reduced as time goes on - pain is reduced by regular updates. Did you try removing the spell when you get the bug? 

Yes and no, I tried with dispelallspells because I did not know at that time which pain-spell was the right one when I tried it and I attempted it with praying at an altar. Both methods did not work. I checked directly after the command / prayer and I checked after 5-10 min realtime in case of script-lag or a willful delay of the "healing" effect. I did not try it with direct targeting the pain-spell because I did not know which one was the correct one to use with the console command and second I was unsure to use it on the wrong pain spell because of the reported bug with spells in the net that could not be removed.

 

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But something unattached to the bug - two "things" I thought about  - do you think it would possible to integrate/connect StA with Captured Dreams cause there you have already a system with DOM/sub/maso/sad. Maybe that StA-level changes the CD variables. And the second one is something I don't have the knowledge if it would be possible. There are anims like cobalt spanking or the ZAZ-animations with torture or spanking furniture like with t.ara's ultimate furniture pack. I don't know if it is possible that when an animation with the correct theme is used if it could be used to count to level StA up.

[Lupine00]

47 minutes ago, seanthiar said:

do you think it would possible to integrate/connect StA with Captured Dreams

Captured Dreams is not only dead, it has been removed by its creator.

Re-upload is prohibited.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/23844-devious-devices-captured-dreams-shop-v415-files-removed/

 

Developing against it would be unwise, even if it supported DD4.X, which it never really did.

[seanthiar]

26 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Captured Dreams is not only dead, it has been removed by its creator.

Re-upload is prohibited.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/23844-devious-devices-captured-dreams-shop-v415-files-removed/

 

Developing against it would be unwise, even if it supported DD4.X, which it never really did.

Oh - didn't saw it - One cause more to up my knowledge of the CK...... The ideas are there but the skillset is still not good enough to make them real. Shit RL severything slowing down... - It was one of the few Bondage & Slave orientated mods with a story behind it that was promising.

[Monoman1]

5 hours ago, seanthiar said:

Yes and no, I tried with dispelallspells because I did not know at that time which pain-spell was the right one when I tried it and I attempted it with praying at an altar. Both methods did not work. I checked directly after the command / prayer and I checked after 5-10 min realtime in case of script-lag or a willful delay of the "healing" effect. I did not try it with direct targeting the pain-spell because I did not know which one was the correct one to use with the console command and second I was unsure to use it on the wrong pain spell because of the reported bug with spells in the net that could not be removed.

I wouldn't be too worried about removing the wrong spell. The console will tell you if it was removed successfully or not. So keep going until it says it was removed. Hell remove all of them. The spell will be reapplied during the next spank or pain decrease update. 

'help pain'

PageUp/PageDown to find them 

'Player.RemoveSpell xxxxxxxx'

 

But I'm almost certain the issue isn't STA. 

[seanthiar]

On 10/21/2019 at 5:27 PM, Monoman1 said:

I wouldn't be too worried about removing the wrong spell. The console will tell you if it was removed successfully or not. So keep going until it says it was removed. Hell remove all of them. The spell will be reapplied during the next spank or pain decrease update. 

'help pain'

PageUp/PageDown to find them 

'Player.RemoveSpell xxxxxxxx'

 

But I'm almost certain the issue isn't STA. 

still the same problem - can't remove pain. If I save, disable STA and reload pain is removed including the 0 damage effect.

[Siudhne]

To get spanked while crafting is quite cool, but also unexpected - I figured it was for use with zaz furniture, which however doesn't seem to work. Are there any plans to make it work with zaz furniture?

 

Also, did you consider a can-get-spanked-in-armor toggle? ?

[jlttsmiley30]

Just wondering if this was compatable with STA , before I screw up my game and setting??

i saw you recommend BABO arousal version , wondering about your opinion on this?

[BigOnes69]

7 hours ago, jlttsmiley30 said:

Just wondering if this was compatable with STA , before I screw up my game and setting??

i saw you recommend BABO arousal version , wondering about your opinion on this?

The patch for Ass Spank is built in. I have been using it for awhile now. Just make sure Aroused Extended is installed after Spank.

[Lupine00]

2 hours ago, BigOnes69 said:

The patch for Ass Spank is built in. I have been using it for awhile now. Just make sure Aroused Extended is installed after Spank.

SLAX is definitely compatible with StA. I use StA all the time.

 

The order shouldn't matter. There shouldn't be any conflicting files (I don't have any), and SLAX is an ESM, so it will load before StA no matter what.

[jlttsmiley30]

12 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

SLAX is definitely compatible with StA. I use StA all the time.

 

The order shouldn't matter. There shouldn't be any conflicting files (I don't have any), and SLAX is an ESM, so it will load before StA no matter what.

THANKYOU

[jlttsmiley30]

12 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

SLAX is definitely compatible with StA. I use StA all the time.

 

The order shouldn't matter. There shouldn't be any conflicting files (I don't have any), and SLAX is an ESM, so it will load before StA no matter what.

THANK YOU

[BigOnes69]

19 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

SLAX is definitely compatible with StA. I use StA all the time.

 

The order shouldn't matter. There shouldn't be any conflicting files (I don't have any), and SLAX is an ESM, so it will load before StA no matter what.

That is good to know and smart on your part. I have to assume as a player that a mod that has compatibility or a patch with another mod should atleast be installed ( in the install order not the load order) after the compatible mod. Usually its listed whether you have to put it behind in the load order. Thanks for your work.

[Lupine00]

I've been using the new resistance loss, and it's working great.

 

I think though that the limit of 20 resistance per loss may be too low for people who set their resistance higher.

While you can do that "per spank", so maybe not.

I just have no idea if anyone is setting huge resistances to try and fix their "willpower off a cliff problems".

 

In any case, the default value of 1 is probably too low to auto-convert. When DF wants to take some willpower off you, it usually removes 18 points, and I think that would be a sensible default if you're going to leave spanks per loss the same as when the event removed an entire willpower point.

 

Personally, I'm using three spanks to lose two resistance. I might to to 1 spank for 1 resistance, which is closer to my previous setup, if it proves too easy.

 

Also, would be super-awesome if you could beg NPCs for spanks in dialog when you're a masochist; then get a nibbles spanking scene with spanks galore.

I get bored of deliberately running into everyone  

[Monoman1]

17 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I think though that the limit of 20 resistance per loss may be too low for people who set their resistance higher.

Oh. I didn't know you could change resistance so I thought 20 = 1 willpower. That's high enough. 

17 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I might to to 1 spank for 1 resistance

I think these are the default values of the mod now if you were to start a new game. 

17 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Also, would be super-awesome if you could beg NPCs for spanks in dialog when you're a masochist; then get a nibbles spanking scene with spanks galore.

I know, I know. All that stuff is still on my to-do list. A list that gets longer every day. 

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Oh. I didn't know you could change resistance so I thought 20 = 1 willpower. That's high enough. 

Yes, it can be set in the MCM from some low value (6?) to I think 40 ... can't be bothered to check the MCM code just now, but you get the idea.

Also, there's the per will modifier that can increase or decrease it as you lose willpower, which defaults to 0.

 

I plan to add an option for a per-level resistance modifier too, so you can add some value from -1 to +2 per level, or something like that. It will be a float  

So, if you like, you can automatically become less of a doormat as you level. Stops that thing where you're killing Alduin one minute, then afraid to say boo the next.

 

 

On another topic, just had the guards in Morthal go nuts on the Enforcer. The Enforcer won. He must be quite tough.

Not sure why though. I wasn't even nearby when it happened, I just followed the trail of guards to discover it.

Maybe caused by not rebuilding my Merge Patch after installing latest SLS update?

 

If you end the civil war with a treaty as part of main quest (finish Season Unending?), could you get a license discount to all licenses?

I can do it myself by reducing the license prices in the MCM, but it's just not the same.

I think that would satisfy people asking about why licenses still apply once civil war over.