guide Skyrim SE for Beginners - V 3.2.6 (Outdated)

[Aragwath]

Is it possible to make Wrye Bash set certain ESP files to ESL? Wrye Bash is showing me which ESPs that's compatible with ESL. Or will it make a lot of errors?

 

I was thinking of maybe also run SD+, Simple Slavery and some slavery mods, but I got only six more spots for ESP.

[Mittelat]

@Aylis

 

Is it possible to use your mod list with a german game installation? As long as i find german translations for the mods, it shouldn't be a problem right? I've seen in your profile that your are from germany. If it isn't possible did you ever play the game in german, and if so did you mod it? What were your expierences?

 

Even though i can understand english, i would prefer a german version of my game.

 

 

[Tiemphyx]

7 hours ago, Aragwath said:

Is it possible to make Wrye Bash set certain ESP files to ESL? Wrye Bash is showing me which ESPs that's compatible with ESL. Or will it make a lot of errors?

 

I was thinking of maybe also run SD+, Simple Slavery and some slavery mods, but I got only six more spots for ESP.

Personally, I use  SSEEdit, but check this out for all the gory do and don't details:

ESLify (A Guide to ESL Flag Your Plugins And Maintain Your Plugin Limit)

[Aylis]

@Mittelat

Possible? Yes. Recommended? No. Das kann gewaltig nach hinten losgehen...

 

With the small stuff (textures, meshes, etc) there will be no problem. Anything else, and especially bigger mods (for items, quests), can cause issues if they arn't translated properly. Also you're then usually limiting your choice of available mods.

 

There's a reason why i only play games in english. Way less hassle with mods and don't get me started on the usual quality of translations...

[wollboi]

@fritzfried No idea how I missed that, but I don't think it matters. The animations for Equipment Idles trigger when you have a weapon drawn, and the animations for Sky Idles trigger when they aren't. The same holds true for both of the Smooth mods (they both use the same DAR animation designations) and they seem to work fine together. If you ever notice one not running, you can rename the folders, but I don't think it's necessary.

 

@Aragwath Papyrus logs aren't crash logs. They really aren't helpful for finding the reason for a crash. Is happening around a certain action or location?

 

@maltodaxtrin I would also disable FOV in the ENB menu. It drops it by 3-5 FPS and makes it look worse IMO. Maybe Ambient Occlusion too.

 

(Unrelated - I wish Capcom knew that disabling FOV in RE8 meant to actually disable the ****ing FOV.)

 

@Jessica_Degurechaff *squeal* Yeah, I'm definitely checking that out. Looks like the old Animations mod but way more modern. Thanks!

[Maligus]

Having an issue with Better Vampires and this mod list, seems the feeding is not counting (moved BV as low as can on load list as well) Is there anything in this loadlist that conflicts with Better Vampires?

 

P.s. I've spent a couple hours combing through this thread to see if it's been addressed before with no luck so asking now. Any help would be appreciated.

loadorder.txt

[Aylis]

@Malignus

Nope, there isn't (BV is one of my favourites and always in my LO). Recheck the settings in the MCM.

[maltodaxtrin]

It seems like something broke my character's SMP physics in my game.

 

When I start a new game, I sleep and spawn in an inn and the physics work flawlessly. But when I load my game, my character's physics are.... janky suddenly. Like the breasts will sway smoothly and then there's a random jiggle in a weird direction. And another one. Or the butt will start having random spasms.

 

I tried the exact same animations (GSPose02) with the exact same character preset & bodyslide preset in a new game and no such problem. It's like there's a saved, corrupted physics setting somewhere in my save. I tried switching from CBPC to SMP back and forth but it doesn't help.

 

Is there any way around that beside starting a new game? Maybe there's a file I can delete somewhere or reset to its vanilla settings? I use this load order's physics mods and nothing else. Thanks!

 

Edit : only seems to affect the 3BBB body or 3BBB/3BA outfits, not vanilla outfit physics so it has something to do with 3BBB/3BA physics.

 

I uploaded a video to show the problem. It doesn't happen in a brand new save game

 

Spoiler

 

[Maligus]

3 hours ago, Aylis said:

@Malignus

Nope, there isn't (BV is one of my favourites and always in my LO). Recheck the settings in the MCM.

it's saying that "NOT using Better Vampires Scripts" which the mod author says normally means another mod is conflicting, the only thing I can think that I added outside the mod list here with scripts is the Nether's Follwers Framework.
 

[ddfde]

It seems that the Ebony Edge weapon replacer has disappeared from the list. I did a quick search of the thread and didn't find any mention of it being removed.

 

Maybe it was mysteriously replaced by the Silver Edge, of which I could also not find any mentions about being added!

 

I assume Simply Elegant Ebony Weapons replaced it, just couldn't find a post about it. Is that correct?

[Tiemphyx]

8 hours ago, Maligus said:

it's saying that "NOT using Better Vampires Scripts" which the mod author says normally means another mod is conflicting, the only thing I can think that I added outside the mod list here with scripts is the Nether's Follwers Framework.
 

Just a wild thought, did you extract your .bsa's into loose files?  You generally shouldn't unless you have a specific overwrite you need to occur.  If you did, you might find the conflict (in red) by drilling down through the Data tab.  Otherwise, ignore this...

[Lycentious]

Hi all I'm looking for some help troubleshooting,

So I recently came across this really nice guide (thanks Aylis!) and have been following it.
I've finished installing everything and done the Bashed Patch, installed ini files and DynDOLOD Oututs. however my game will CTD on startup.

So what happens is:

1. I launch SKSE from Mod Organizer.
2. I get a black screen with text on the top left saying
   "ENBSeries compiling shaders, please wait.
   Set ShaderCache=true in the enblocal.ini to reduce compilation time after first build of cache.
   Also enable shader caching in video driver setting."
3. The game then loads, I see the Main Menu background very faintly for a couple seconds then it crashes to desktop.

I've tried multiple fixes, alternating between true and false for ShaderCache, making sure shader caching is enabled in video driver, disabling optional mods, making sure Steam Overlay is disabled etc. but nothing seems to work. My load order is in accordance to the modlist and I've moved .esm and .esp files where they should be.

I have a feeling it's probably ENB that's causing this issue.

It'd be appreciated if someone could help.

ModList.txt

[Maligus]

40 minutes ago, fritzfried said:

Just a wild thought, did you extract your .bsa's into loose files?  You generally shouldn't unless you have a specific overwrite you need to occur.  If you did, you might find the conflict (in red) by drilling down through the Data tab.  Otherwise, ignore this...

nope, just installed with nexus, not finding any conflicts either to manage involving BV

[maltodaxtrin]

1 hour ago, Lycentious said:

Hi all I'm looking for some help troubleshooting,

So I recently came across this really nice guide (thanks Aylis!) and have been following it.
I've finished installing everything and done the Bashed Patch, installed ini files and DynDOLOD Oututs. however my game will CTD on startup.

So what happens is:

1. I launch SKSE from Mod Organizer.
2. I get a black screen with text on the top left saying
   "ENBSeries compiling shaders, please wait.
   Set ShaderCache=true in the enblocal.ini to reduce compilation time after first build of cache.
   Also enable shader caching in video driver setting."
3. The game then loads, I see the Main Menu background very faintly for a couple seconds then it crashes to desktop.

I've tried multiple fixes, alternating between true and false for ShaderCache, making sure shader caching is enabled in video driver, disabling optional mods, making sure Steam Overlay is disabled etc. but nothing seems to work. My load order is in accordance to the modlist and I've moved .esm and .esp files where they should be.

I have a feeling it's probably ENB that's causing this issue.

It'd be appreciated if someone could help.

ModList.txt 29.42 kB · 0 downloads

 

What exactly is "SKSE output"? DynDOLOD (ambiant occlusion) should always be last.

 

Anyway, what you should have done is first install Aylis' mod list and only that mod list, like I did. I see that you installed a ton of additional mods, which can bring instability problems.

 

I assume you're using Mod Organizer 2? If yes, untick everything, then tick back on only what's in the official list and in the right order (make sure the ESP/ESL/ESM are in the proper order too as stated in the installation instructions), then try it again. Re-do all the patches including DynDOLOD. Make sure FNIS/Nemesis/Wrye Bash don't throw out errors too (well, apart from the expected ones as stated in the instructions)

[Lycentious]

8 minutes ago, maltodaxtrin said:

 

What exactly is "SKSE output"? DynDOLOD (ambiant occlusion) should always be last.

 

Anyway, what you should have done is first install Aylis' mod list and only that mod list, like I did. I see that you installed a ton of additional mods, which can bring instability problems.

 

I assume you're using Mod Organizer 2? If yes, untick everything, then tick back on only what's in the official list and in the right order (make sure the ESP/ESL/ESM are in the proper order too as stated in the installation instructions), then try it again. Re-do all the patches including DynDOLOD. Make sure FNIS/Nemesis/Wrye Bash don't throw out errors too (well, apart from the expected ones as stated in the instructions)

 

@maltodaxtrinthanks for your reply!

Yep! Already did all you suggested and the same thing still occurs.
The SKSE Output was to contain all the Overwrite folders being created by SKSE whenever I launched the game. Was told to do that while I was searching for fixes. Is there a better method?

Been working on multiple fixes the past few hours, will probably start from scratch

[maltodaxtrin]

10 minutes ago, Lycentious said:

 

@maltodaxtrinthanks for your reply!

Yep! Already did all you suggested and the same thing still occurs.
The SKSE Output was to contain all the Overwrite folders being created by SKSE whenever I launched the game. Was told to do that while I was searching for fixes. Is there a better method?

Been working on multiple fixes the past few hours, will probably start from scratch

 

Damn that's unfortunate. Make sure you go back to the early steps, like the installation of SKSE and other plugins since some of them are installed outside of MO2 and thus, more sensitive to human errors. Re-check that those were installed correctly. Delete ENB and re-install it in the Skyrim folder, things like that (it can't really get any worse anyway, your game CTD on start)

 

edit: also try starting from scratch with this guide and see if your game works :

 

[maltodaxtrin]

Also lastly, try unchecking things and progressively trying to boot the game with less and less things activated, until you find the culprit.

[Lycentious]

20 minutes ago, maltodaxtrin said:

 

Damn that's unfortunate. Make sure you go back to the early steps, like the installation of SKSE and other plugins since some of them are installed outside of MO2 and thus, more sensitive to human errors. Re-check that those were installed correctly. Delete ENB and re-install it in the Skyrim folder, things like that (it can't really get any worse anyway, your game CTD on start)

 

edit: also try starting from scratch with this guide and see if your game works :

 

@maltodaxtrin thank you so much for your help!

If you have any solutions to the SKSE Overwrite files do let me know!

Now I have a lot of installing to do.. xD

[maltodaxtrin]

Try removing only ENB from your install, remove it from skyrim folder and untick ENB mods and stuff. If it works then you know ENB is the culprit.

[arshesney]

2 hours ago, Lycentious said:

The game then loads, I see the Main Menu background very faintly for a couple seconds then it crashes to desktop.

That happens when a plugin is missing a master, you have a .bsa file from an oldrim mod or a bad SKSE plugin.

 

First case is easy to check: click on the warning sign at the top right in MO window, if there are missing masters they will be reported in the window that opens.

Old bsa archives are a bit more difficult to spot, an LE mod from nexus will have a little icon: , check those mods and extract then delete any bsa files in them.  

If it is a bad SKSE plugin you can find it by the crash log: after the game crashes you will find in overwrite a NetScriptFramework\Crash\Crash_<time and date>.txt file, the first line in that file tells you what crashed like this:

 

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FF6BFCF9625 (badplugin.dll+C59625) on thread 19968!

 

if it says "SkyrimSE.exe" then it's not the case.

[Mittelat]

18 hours ago, Aylis said:

@Mittelat

Possible? Yes. Recommended? No. Das kann gewaltig nach hinten losgehen...

 

With the small stuff (textures, meshes, etc) there will be no problem. Anything else, and especially bigger mods (for items, quests), can cause issues if they arn't translated properly. Also you're then usually limiting your choice of available mods.

 

There's a reason why i only play games in english. Way less hassle with mods and don't get me started on the usual quality of translations...

 

Danke dir für die Antwort. Meine Englischkentnisse habenseit ich aus der Schule raus bin abgebaut :/. Ich habe Skyrim bisher nur ca. 80 Stunden gespielt und die Hauptquest noch nicht beendet. Ich möchte bei meinem ersten richtigem Playthrough von Skyrim einfach ein perfekts Erlebnis haben.

 

Würdest du jemanden wie mir deine Modlisten überhaupt an emfpehlen, wenn man das Spiel zum ersten mal durschpielen will?

 

 

[Alkzis]

Hey there!, so far i havent crashed or losed fps not even once, so im pretty happy with the set up, however i encounter this while looking around riften: (entrace of the mara temple)
Not really that important and its such a minor thing that i almost will never see (unless i especifically go there), so i could leave it as it is if its hard to fix, in case you guys know how to fix it please tell me! (and if i need to run again Dyndolod/TexGen/Ao etc when i fix it)
heres what i found:

(flotating campfire(?)) 

Spoiler

and


weird ilumination on the candles and the stairs, like theres a fake prefixlight there.

Spoiler

 

[maltodaxtrin]

20 hours ago, wollboi said:

@maltodaxtrin I would also disable FOV in the ENB menu. It drops it by 3-5 FPS and makes it look worse IMO. Maybe Ambient Occlusion too.

 

(Unrelated - I wish Capcom knew that disabling FOV in RE8 meant to actually disable the ****ing FOV.)

 

 

I looked everywhere in the ENB menu in-game (shift+enter) but I couldn't find a FOV setting. Is it in a ini file somewhere? Thanks!

[arshesney]

Perhaps he meant DoF as in Depth of Field?

[llokii70]

On 3/17/2019 at 2:01 PM, Aylis said:

Last Update: 16 Apr 2021

Updateinfo: in this post / Updatehistory

 

 

Threadmap

 

1. Overview

2. Modlist

3. Installation - Recommended Settings

4. Screenshots (separate page)

5. Troubleshooting 

6. Tips and Tricks - Start up

7. Downloads 

 

 

Who this guide is for.

I've watched quite a few videos on Youtube and some of them look fantastic. But most of the time you simply don't get a complete list of what they actually use or have to watch a dozen or so (*cough* 275 *cough* MxR *cough*) to get a hint of what they might use and then they might switch mods at any time.

 

So this here is my complete list and i've added a few screenshots and there is a video showcase that is very close (there are only minor differences) to my guide. I recommend to take a look there first so you'll know what to expect if you follow this guide.

 

My goal is to get a beautiful game which is fun and, although it is a FRPG, as realistic as possible without punishing you for playing it. So you'll find no skimpy outfits (aka Bikinis in a snowstorm), overly gothified fantasy weapons and armor which are totally useless in reality (i replaced those as much as possible), and none of the punishing survival mods.

 

What i did crank up is the difficulty via MorrowLoot and 'Deadly Wenches'. Higher tier weapons and armor are much harder to get and the enemies are no walk in the park anymore. Assas- sinating the leader of the Silverhand is no easy feat (i did it at lvl. 15 while he was lvl 28, but it took me some sweet time and he got me at least a dozen times).

 

Your first hour in a dungeon (incl. a few mistakes a new adventurer might make):

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One They Fear (Skyrim Animation)

 

 

But the beauty of it is that you can still adapt the list to what you like. I'm just trying to give you a solid base where you can add the things you like (or remove the ones you don't). See 'Nothing is carved in stone' in post #6.

 

 

A big 'Thank you' to all the modders out there! The game wouldn't be as good as it is now without you guys and gals!

 

 

Don't forget to either endorse the mods you use or give the authors a 'thumbs up' here at LL. And, if you like my work, you can support me on Patreon. Most of the time i will be here anyway, so that one is for those of you that want to support me with all the work on this guide (better said providing me with a steady supply of much needed coffee and cookies ?).

 

 

Happy to disappoint in this regard:

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Congratulations! You just found a Daedric armor!

Pic made by Taurelin

 

 

Other games:

Fallout 4 for Beginners

 

 

Can be ignored...

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...i just don't want to rewrite this again and again…

The list is atm NOT compatible with the newest Bethesda update! I'll remove this note when every mod is working with it again.

 

All mods can be checked here: SSE Conversion Tracking. Also don' forget to give @tasairis a 'thumbs up' for all his awesome work (i'd go nuts with all the required updates).

 

Instructions how to roll back to the older version of Skyrim can be found >>here<<.

 

Silly question do you know if there is anything like this that is more devious devices based. Not a beginner here but would love to see some load orders as I am getting ready to do a fresh SE build. I have both LE and SE. I have been playing LE and  something is going on with that playthrough right was working great up till about a night ago. So was going to do a clean install of SE to see if I could get something really stable there. LOL its funny my LE game was running fine now the save just sits at the like the loading screen.