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I have been wondering about the attraction system setting regarding teeth.  You are asked to set whether the sim likes good teeth or bad teeth, but what's the point in that because I have yet to see bad teeth anywhere.  I've given teeth that I would have assumed are bad, to a sim, and no one seems to notice!  Is that a subject for future expansion or just an unfinished feature?

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Could we get an option in the WW menu to disable autonomous sex interactions for specific genders ? I'm trying to create a Sim Society in which female sims have the right to do autonomous sex with female only, while male sims aren't allowed.

 

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3 hours ago, KTF said:

I'm trying to create a Sim Society in which female sims have the right to do autonomous sex with female only, while male sims aren't allowed.

For now you could just shift+click on every male in game and select Wicked/Disable for Autonomous Sex.

 

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On 1/17/2021 at 5:07 AM, FzzyDg8 said:

I have been wondering about the attraction system setting regarding teeth.  You are asked to set whether the sim likes good teeth or bad teeth, but what's the point in that because I have yet to see bad teeth anywhere.  I've given teeth that I would have assumed are bad, to a sim, and no one seems to notice!  Is that a subject for future expansion or just an unfinished feature?

It works,

I had a Person with Bad Teeth and when I checked the attractivness that Person always had the  - 100% for having bad teeth, when I changed the teeth the minus 100% had gone

and I achieved very high atraction level where it has previous been only high

 

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I love the immersive quality of this mod.  There are a few things I would like to see added if possible, and if I have missed them please tell me where I can find them.

 

WW Traits: (with corresponding moodlets)

-Hairy Lover - Attracted by hairy pubis, the hairier the better.

-Bald Lover - Attracted to bald pubis, and repulsed by hair, the more hair the greater the disgust.

-Various Partner Age Related Traits

-A trait for those who love to swallow, and those who hate it.  With a chance for nausea for those who hate it.

-A trait for those who love and hate period sex.  Would include options to disable vaginal sex for that female while on her period.

-As they have become more popular maybe an option for period panties, these would work in some ways like a pad, and in other ways like panties.  The blood soaked panty moodlet would not apply unless the capacity was exceeded but it would require a change of panties (this would work best with the panty rotation system mentioned in a previous post)

-IUD for birth control, could be customized in settings with perhaps multiple active time lengths to choose from. 

 

 

Actions / Options:

-Perhaps an option of where to finish when the sex act involves a man (or more specifically one capable of impregnating their partner).

-Invite to watch.

-Ask to teach one sim could ask another to teach how to perform a specific sex act.

-A drink breast milk option when a sim capable of pregnancy has just given birth, or if already a mother has reached the third trimester in a subsequent pregnancy, her partner could nurse from her during a sex act.   This could also lead to a squirt with breast milk option during sex, or an embarrassed or excited moodlet from leaking breasts.

 

 

I really liked the way  KW handled insemination in Sims3, and while that may not be feasible for WW, it would be nice if more vaginal interactions during the ovulation window could lead to pregnancy. 

 

 

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I've been really enjoying the new(ish) positioning feature.

I don't know how difficult this would be to implement, but I would like to see an option to save position adjustments as a preset, tied to that specific animation; so that one wouldn't have to re-adjust for it every time.

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You're not going to agree with this post! and I understand that.

Wicked Whims needs game play. There, I said it. It's gotten boring. To me, the mod seems to be about playing sex animations for an absurdly long time. And the set up is miserable! You got to go through all the options, then pick out the animations you don't want from the animation packs, edit the WW traits (which is a lost opportunity for game play!), make a playlist which is difficult because the filters don't show ALL the animations that work for a given location (they're organized by location, so you have to scroll down to say "Table" and then switch between animation authors, which is time consuming)  etc.  The other day the mod dropped my saved settings and I had to go through it all again. It just wasn't worth it.

Attraction system? What does it do, really? The attraction system doesn't seem to really change anything other than give pop ups about which sim is attractive and which  isn't. The new dynamic switch seems to  rare and unusual sims as the most desired sims, no matter how ugly. I'd rather have an option for sims who are bi to say "this is an attractive male and this is an attractive female" feature.   I think the "glance" feature may be related to attraction, so I guess it has some effects.

Strip clubs? Horrible way to make money and the game play get becomes boring quickly. You tell a sim to dance, and no, she doesn't want too. Go through all your strippers and see if you can get one to dance. Then your customers complain. You make more money making wooden bathtubs and toilets at the woodworking bench.

The after sex buffs make no sense, and there are no during sex buffs. I mean, your sims have sex and all one sim does is give a blow job and gets a satisfied moodlet. That's crazy! It seems to throw buffs out randomly no matter what animations play, with only the sex skill having much effect. 

Porcelain Dolls? Why? I don't even see the point of "porcelain dolls" as there are other mods to make nymphomaniacs. If you want to have sex with a blue person, make an alien and use the Pheromonal Flower trait form Nisa's wicked perversions. There, done!

Best feature of the mod is that vampires with the command benefit can make another sim promiscuous.

Sex is easier to get than a kiss? as I said, yes, for a lot of people the mod is about just running the animations with different characters, but this is just weird.  There are already cheats like "always accept" in the settings to make sex really easy.

Window Peeping Sims doesn't work like it used to. Most of the time they just dissolve right as I'm asking them to come in.

I'm thankful for the animation creators and it takes more talent and smarts than I have, but some are just poor, as if they're robots.

Why not just check out Kinky World (sims 3) for ideas?

Kinky world had some very good ideas, but was buggy and would crash your Sims 3 game.  Wicked Whims is more bug free than anything EA ever put out, but mostly it's just Wicked Woohoo with some low game play features added.

There! I said it.

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@MrGrey you could play with DD insted of WW for a while, maybe it helps. With fetishes, rape, pets, swelling and milk it has other features. 

It's really hard to put things around an animation-player to keep things interesting for a long time. EA releases and hypes a new DLC every month to keep it entertaining. 

The sexpertise skill was a good idea, nothing more unfortunately. I'd like to be able to evolve my sims preferences over time, teen sims should start with kissing/teasing/solo and learn mostly from others to unlock animations.

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@Oops19 I think going to DD is missing the point; it doesn't need more varied animations, it needs gameplay.  There's lots of game play to be had within the sphere that WW already address (LGBT, adult/teen, incest, poly etc) without rape, pets etc. Example: in KinkyWorld Sims 3 your sim had to have high athletic skill in cardio to have sex a long time, and high athletic skill in weight training to do the "carry" sex positions. Sex skill in KW was more than just an after sex buff.  Another, for example, was that if you left your family sims alone for long enough without any outside sex interests, they would get the "incest" trait between adult sims. Maybe in WW that could be an aspiration so the player wouldn't have it unintentionally happen. Yeah, Sims 3 KW had a rape feature and a rapist trait and the cops would come out to arrest the rapist sim if they got caught. A rapist sim could even rape the cop rather than just go peacefully. A sim without the rapist trait could still rape, but would get a negative moodlet like a vampire with the guilty drinker trait. To be a good rapist and to defend yourself against the midnight rapist you had to have a high athletic and I think if you had world adventures, Martial Arts to fight off the night rapist who would break into your sim's home.   I'm kinda getting off the track here: not saying add rape to WW.  I'm pointing out that in the KW context, it had good gameplay. There was more to it than "add trait, go at it".

Yes, KW had some things that were a fail. I didn't see the point in "high school" and the houses of prostitution were totally a waste of code imho.

I guess I need to shut up and learn how to make mods and add some game play.

There are already mods for the WW Mods. I just need to learn how it's done and stop complaining.

 

 

 

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On 3/2/2021 at 6:01 PM, MrGrey said:

You're not going to agree with this post! and I understand that.

Wicked Whims needs game play.

 

I'm not so sure WW needs "gameplay". I wouldn't mind gameplay, but I'm definitely a big fan of constrained focuses: have one mod, that's very stable, and does one thing very well (which in this case, is add support for sex animations). If you want more features, don't add them to the base mod, have a new mod instead.

 

There are several features of WW which I would consider "Gameplay" - peeping and porcelain dolls, for example. Both of these features are unsatisfying, and I'd much rather NOT have them in my game (clearly something that you agree with!). The fact that these features are bundled into WW is problematic, because if I want the basic WW functionality - playing sex animations - I've got no choice but to put up with the dolls and peepers. Adding more "gameplay functions" to the base WW mod would only make the situation worse, as while WW might get an integrated gameplay mod I actually enjoy, past evidence suggests that it would most likely be more bloat. "totally a waste of code imho", as you put it.

 

I'd definitely like to see some extra gameplay mods that are compatible with / work well together with WW - I've been having a blast with Sacrificial's various edgelord mods, for example (Life Tragedies, Extreme Violence, Zombies, etc) and having more integration between Sac's stuff & WW would be cool. I'd also like to see a more fully fleshed out Strip Club mod, as I am actually enjoying the Strip Clubs in base WW (despite them being almost unplayable without cheating the dancer profit and tips options). But I'd want a different mod for that stuff, don't make it part of the base WW.

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@Komoridako Yes that's the way I think it has to go, with mod add ons to WW like Nisa's WP. Not sure how to do that, tho'. I tried with Zebru's Mod workbench but it doesn't have a way to insert a trait that is neither an game trait or a trait made with the workbench.

I guess I need to shut up and learn to code.

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Thanks for the info about KW. I played TS3 only a bit, obviuosly without KW.

Coding is one thing, understanding XML files and editing to change behaviour or the sims the other. Likely both are needed to create a mod. I wish I had more time to look into the XML stuff - for now my mods are Python-only.

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On 3/3/2021 at 12:01 AM, MrGrey said:

Attraction system? What does it do, really? The attraction system doesn't seem to really change anything other than give pop ups about which sim is attractive and which  isn't. The new dynamic switch seems to  rare and unusual sims as the most desired sims, no matter how ugly. I'd rather have an option for sims who are bi to say "this is an attractive male and this is an attractive female" feature.   I think the "glance" feature may be related to attraction, so I guess it has some effects.

 

This was my feeling too. I was amazed by the deep customization interface but next it was like nothing changed.

Maybe we don't know how to use it properly ?

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I'm new to this community, but I've been having a lot of fun over the last two weeks trying out different mods and animations. I agree that we need more "rough" animations. Also, two other suggestions:

-More seduction sequences, particularly older women seducing younger men (for those who are into incest, mothers/aunts seducing sons?).

-Animations specifically designed to look good in first person view. This would be hard, but it's awesome to look down and watch a blowjob. The clipping issues definitely kill the effect. 

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5 hours ago, Noah.Cole said:

I'm new to this community, but I've been having a lot of fun over the last two weeks trying out different mods and animations. I agree that we need more "rough" animations. Also, two other suggestions:

-More seduction sequences, particularly older women seducing younger men (for those who are into incest, mothers/aunts seducing sons?).

-Animations specifically designed to look good in first person view. This would be hard, but it's awesome to look down and watch a blowjob. The clipping issues definitely kill the effect. 

Rough isn't my crank, but there should be animations for almost every turn of the crank.
I need to learn how to make animations! There should be a "sexy dance" animation between two sims. There are several where a sim dances alone, but other sims just go about their business because of the 10 sim minute broadcast requirement they won't even notice for 10 minutes, and now the dancing sim would have to be naked; swimsuits and underwear doesn't cut it anymore.  Also, can't wait for Bunk Beds. I had some good times on a bunk bed. 

 

First person animations! Yes, but EA needs to fix how just a little bump of the mouse sends the sim's head spinning out of control, and as you said, the clipping issue.

 

Seduction sequences? Right now it's triggered, I think as a percentage chance if you have a romantic interaction.

 

Incest. right now, It's either on or off. If it's on, it's like sims aren't even related nothing special, not even a "Mother Fucker", "tied game" (sibling) or "kissing cousins" buff. If it's off, it's not an option. I especially find this sad because I like to level up a sim to a very high level, and then clone them with the cloning machine. (Duplicate Spell works too) There was a mod where you could clone the sim and change their sex, but it's broken. I mean to fix it but it's not my mod and if I fix it I couldn't share it. Anyway, once you clone your own sister/brother, a sim can't have sex with their clone (ultimate 'Go fuck yourself') without turning on incest , so you hit the switch. Then you go visit the Goth family and are grossed out because Mortimer is banging his daughter Cassandra. "No Morty! She's mine!" Or you can add the incest trait, or edit the traits in MCCC to make them NOT clones, but then it kinda loses the immersion. I'm working on a mods to fix that - both for incest in general and specifically for clones. Sadly, I suck at making mods and animations, but I'm going to learn.

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Some of my ideas (sorry if they seem rather silly, impossible or already said--I'm not a Modder and really have no idea how to or what it all pertains to):

1: Ability to pick what kind of sex type they prefer (e.g. a male would prefer more rough stuff while the female (or partner) would prefer more gentle) with accommodating moodlets. This includes fetishes. Currently--in my saves anyway--they do whatever and seem okay with it. 

2: Have a dedicated Strip Club venue. Like I don't want to own it, but I want to work there. This would work for specific club hangouts too. I don't want to own it but still go hang out and it still functions as a Strip Club rather than just a generic venue.

3: Tweak it to make it more dynamic if possible. I have probably at least 5 animation mods from others but the game tends to pick the same ones over and over. Would like to see more variety being used.

I probably have more, but these will have to suffice for now.

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Just some ideas to add more actual gameplay to WW:

 

I liked DD in concept, not so much in execution.  The "Bad Neighborhood" lot trait was a clever idea, I wouldn't mind seeing something like that integrated with sacrificial and Basemental Gangs to create areas where your sims could be raped, mugged, or just beaten by sims with a specific trait or gang affiliation if they were bold enough to venture into them.  That I think could add to the gameplay.

 

D/s relationships would be a nice addition as well, something flushed out with animations that tie into them.  Not just the "consent to rough sex" but something with traits and interactions that build relationships based on the DS concept. Maybe punish the sub, order them to stand in the corner, give spanking, clean... yadda, yadda, yadda. 

 

Viagra would be a fun addition, maybe even barring male elderly sims from WW interactions unless they have Viagra.

It would be nice to see the Strip Club idea integrated more with Nisa's prostitution mod to make a brothel... or even with Basemental Drugs to make the brother illegal, subject to busts if you don't bribe the police.

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I don't know how to create a mod, and I've seen a video and read some stuff online, it completely confuses me, so I was wondering if anyone could come up or make one kind of like this? Maybe take it on as a challenge.

I was wondering with all these sex mods that work with wicked whims could there be an improved one for an escort service, where there are legitimate levels(low class hooker to like a high class call girl) and a place to work out with, options to have a pimp or work for a madam, even become a pimp or madam, running your own brothel and earning wages for it like with retail. And maybe more buffs for intercourse. For example: a female sim has a run in with a male partner who is more than average height and the buff would be something commenting on size, or if it were reverse and the female sim was too loose. I think it would also be great to have features for male sims to get enhancements and female sims to get rejuvenations or revirginate themselves.

Also having clients and sims who have an aggressive trait that might leave the sim excited and/or bruised from their experience, bigger reactions and dialogues to go with them. Like if a sim decides to become a prostitute or stripper than her family members or household members get a shocked mod saying things like "You're wasting your life!", "Are you insane?!", "Holy Sh#t!". It would be cool to have features that have it so your sim can keep their job a secret and that it can be revealed creating waves throughout their community where people look at them differently or expect something from them. Their clients can  choose or the sim can choose to use protection or go bareback giving them a buff(for example: Beaten Raw, Rode Raw, Thick Cock, Deep Puss). And another feature could be to allow your sim to take on a specific amount of sims in a day or night with a schedule that they make for themselves with option to accept or reject clients. I think traits like good girl, bad girl, easy, would work well too. A madam and pimp can randomly or specifically choose who goes on jobs or what client a sim gets, they can even coerce the sim or worker into sex after a shift is done, even coerce with money or drugs. A hardcore, softcore buff, leaky or dry buff. Basically a more in-depth sex worker mod with its kinks. 

 

I think that it would be cool to have an in depth sex mod, or one that expands a bit with buffs for huge penis or small penis sizes or one that's just right (like samantha in sex in the city: Goldicocks, Too Big, Too Small, The Perfect Fit), a buff for juicy and soft vaginas, one for too many sex partners, too much sex in the day, tight ass, slick throat, and so on. But it would be cool to have agencies too that do business on the side, where your pimp is your boss who you work for in guise during the day and at night as one of his escorts where there are assigned johns and private sessions. Also would be nice to construct your sex, drug, or whatever empire (because in the sims I feel like you could get rich from selling candy or pizza), being able to recruit girls, intimidate them, an option to favor them or dislike them, even kick them out on the street. It would also be cool to have functions for plastic surgery and reduction surgery, even be recommended when a girl or guy starts working for their boss. When the escort is drunk or high they could blackout and forget their entire night and what they did as well as be susceptible to clients and randoms requests whether it's to dance, drink, flash someone, or sex. There could also be like veteran escorts that can help or hurt a newbie and get them demoted or promoted. Sometimes the boss could get lonely and request a certain escort for the entire night and it's their job to satisfy him in any way he wants, each time being different. And if the escort follows a certain line of options they could eventually become something more with the boss and later run the empire with them. There should also be consequences if they reject certain offers including from the boss. I think escorts should also be able to service security and bouncers, sleeping with them to gain information and status, drugs, or gifts. Also options on what type of business or brothel you want to run, one where you threaten and intimidate, maybe even get physical, or one where those who work under you were like family and you try to help them when you can. 

 

There are a lot of things that could be suggested like doing sexual acts without skin to skin contact according to what the client wants, doing whatever they want to get them in the mood. Chance of condoms being broken, baby care, adoption center options with an option to support the child given up. Bad and good cops who are undercover or out patrolling, where the bad cop offers drugs or money for satisfaction or take you in, good cop offers advice and a chance to become a CI maybe. I think this should all be interactive and also able where you can construct what you want and have a label for company/brothel or side job, something like that. I also think that maybe there should be a career path where an escort can become a cam girl like in aep or do a sexy photoshoot by hooking up with someone from the business during work hours. Maybe starting off as a sexy shoot, then a topless shoot, full nude, opportunities to act are thrown out like in acting and like in acting you can choose gigs. The only difference would be that it's porn with different story lines that make your sim or a sim popular, famous, even legendary. For the escort/prostitute career there should be limitations on how many clients can be taken on at once if at all, a minimum and maximum.

 

I posted this in the request and find mod as a suggestion for ww...I know it’s a lot.

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On 3/17/2021 at 2:06 PM, Lady_Hiroko said:

2: Have a dedicated Strip Club venue. Like I don't want to own it, but I want to work there. This would work for specific club hangouts too. I don't want to own it but still go hang out and it still functions as a Strip Club rather than just a generic venue.
 

 

You actually can make a strip club and hang out at least.  You still have to set it up properly though, but play as a different family than than the one that owns it.

 

 

My ideas:

 

Things I would like to see are dedicated brothels and massage parlor and hiring escorts without the need for the business to be a Strip Club (with a pimp or madam).

 

I did create a brothel once, but I still needed a dancer or the patrons would complain and leave due to no one dancing.  I managed to make it work by just adding one dancing location in the lounge area, but it would be nice to not have to use it at all.

 

Also, I havent really played too much the last few months, but another issue I ran into was the dancers propositioning the owner for sex.  I had to always lock him in the office or I would lose money.  Would be nice if the owner got sex for free or the escorts ignore them completely unless you ask first.

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On 4/5/2021 at 10:56 PM, Christopher1900 said:

 

You actually can make a strip club and hang out at least.  You still have to set it up properly though, but play as a different family than than the one that owns it.

 

 

My ideas:

 

Things I would like to see are dedicated brothels and massage parlor and hiring escorts without the need for the business to be a Strip Club (with a pimp or madam).

 

I did create a brothel once, but I still needed a dancer or the patrons would complain and leave due to no one dancing.  I managed to make it work by just adding one dancing location in the lounge area, but it would be nice to not have to use it at all.

 

Also, I havent really played too much the last few months, but another issue I ran into was the dancers propositioning the owner for sex.  I had to always lock him in the office or I would lose money.  Would be nice if the owner got sex for free or the escorts ignore them completely unless you ask first.

That sounds like an interesting idea. I switched to Sims 3 the past week since I got burned out with Sims 4. I never had the issue with the dancers propositioning the owner. All mine generally ignores each other. My main issue with it was the dancers never danced even after turning off the "auto decide" and assigning them dedicated spots. Also none really lap danced either in the lounge area. They either drank or just chatted away. And for some reason all my prostitutes' favored the window, mirror, or couch when I made dedicated areas for such things. I can't tell if it's because I'm doing something wrong or I just have bad luck and mine end up dumber than a doorknob. 

Also, for some reason, I feel guilty when I have mine decline an offer even when I have to. Mine tends to get bombarded so much (usually elderly), all her needs tank. Can't even use the bathroom without being asked for it. My other idea is having a dedicated lot trait to keep the elderly and teens out of the club (or minimize it). If I have 10 sims at the club (not counting dancers), about 5 are elderly and 3 are teens. I don't want have to purge all the "grandmas and grandpas"  or all the teens but it's getting a tad ridiculous. XD

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On 4/3/2020 at 11:47 PM, Fyrtumkuk said:

Hi there,

 

Sorry for a long post.

 

I have a few ideas for Sims4WW, Ive thought about trying to create these mods by myself but then I realized that it would probably take me quite some time since my coding skills are... lets say limited (at best).

So I thought I would share my ideas here and see if anything can come out of that.

 

1. PENIS SIZE

It would be cool if you could decide a sims penis size, ranging from like XXS to XXL in the "create sims menu". Like if you could choose a flaccid penis and an errect penis and have it be a part of your sims body, not under outfits/clothing.

 

2. PENIS SIZE PREFERENCE

It would be a nice addition of you could choose a penis size preference for sims so that satisfaction from sex is at least partly dependent on penis size (thus #1 idea).

My thoughts are that you could assign for a, for instance female, sim that she prefers Large penises and if she has sex with someone within a certain range of sizes, then it will take less time for her to be completely satisfied and if the penis size is further away it will take a longer time for her to get satisfied.

I'm thinking maybe 9 sexual reactions: Booring, Meeh, Nice, Good, Amazing, Good, Nice, Ouch, Painful.

 

Examples

 

Fem. Sim prefers Medium size penis.

Sexual partner.    Reaction

XXS                       Meeh

XS                          Nice

S                             Good

M                           Amazing 

L                            Good

XL                          Nice

XXL                       Ouch

 

Female sim prefers Small size Penis 

Sexual partner.    Reaction

XXS                       Nice

XS                          Good

S                             Amazing

M                           Good

L                            Nice

XL                          Ouch

XXL                       Painful

 

Female sim prefers XL Penis size

Sexual partner.    Reaction

XXS                       Booring

XS                          Booring

S                             Meeh

M                           Nice

L                            Good

XL                          Amazing 

XXL                       Good

 

3. ATTRACTION REDUCTION/INCREASE

A bad sexual experience can recude attraction for a sim while a good sexual experience can increase it.

 

4. SIM HOTWIFE TRAIT

A sim with a hotwife trait can increase attraction for the partner after bad sex sessions by having sex with other sims infront of their partner.

 

For instance:

Female sim have X amount of bad sex sessions with her hubby and thus her feelings for her husband have reduced alot. With Hotwife trait, this can be repaired by her having sex with one or more men infront of her husband.

 

 

These are just some thoughts and ideas of mine, I hope that they can also interrest someone else.

 

 

I really like that idea.

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On 4/7/2021 at 11:27 AM, Lady_Hiroko said:

That sounds like an interesting idea. I switched to Sims 3 the past week since I got burned out with Sims 4. I never had the issue with the dancers propositioning the owner. All mine generally ignores each other. My main issue with it was the dancers never danced even after turning off the "auto decide" and assigning them dedicated spots. Also none really lap danced either in the lounge area. They either drank or just chatted away. And for some reason all my prostitutes' favored the window, mirror, or couch when I made dedicated areas for such things. I can't tell if it's because I'm doing something wrong or I just have bad luck and mine end up dumber than a doorknob. 

Also, for some reason, I feel guilty when I have mine decline an offer even when I have to. Mine tends to get bombarded so much (usually elderly), all her needs tank. Can't even use the bathroom without being asked for it. My other idea is having a dedicated lot trait to keep the elderly and teens out of the club (or minimize it). If I have 10 sims at the club (not counting dancers), about 5 are elderly and 3 are teens. I don't want have to purge all the "grandmas and grandpas"  or all the teens but it's getting a tad ridiculous. XD

 

Ok, I'll have to try again with the Strip Club and see if is was something I did wrong when setting the club up that caused the strippers to proposition the owner.

 

Also, not sure if you tried it or not, but LilMsSam has a mod where you can choose what type of sims visit the lot.  https://littlemssam.tumblr.com/post/175412863403/gender-more-custom-lot-trait-this-mod-adds-a

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