Anurabis Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 So the title says it all I have a problem with ENB for some reason if I have ENB installed the game will crash immediatly upon loading a save or going into another loadscreen after a new game. I have no Idea what might be causing this and it works just fine without ENB. EDIT: If you think it's a problem with the mods I have installed please don't even start because this also happens on a skyrim with only ENB and SKSE
RomeoZero Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Anurabis said: the game will crash immediatly upon loading a save or going into another loadscreen after a new game. 2 Does that mean that the game is trying to load indoors area?
Andy14 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Anurabis said: So the title says it all I have a problem with ENB for some reason if I have ENB installed the game will crash immediatly upon loading a save or going into another loadscreen after a new game. I have no Idea what might be causing this and it works just fine without ENB. In ENBlocal.ini check this: ExpandSystemMemoryX64 EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks It should be set to false.
Anurabis Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Andy14 said: In ENBlocal.ini check this: ExpandSystemMemoryX64 EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks It should be set to false. Yeah both are set to false in the ENBlocal.ini the problem still appears 11 hours ago, romeozero said: Does that mean that the game is trying to load indoors area? It doesn't even seem to really get into the loading process it just insta CTDs the second it hits a loading screen unless that loading screen is for a new game. No matter if it's an indoor area or the open world.
RomeoZero Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 And when it is a new game, how much time is spent before CTD occur ? Does it crash after 3+ mins or after the dragon attack and going into dungeon indoors ?
Anurabis Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, romeozero said: And when it is a new game, how much time is spent before CTD occur ? Does it crash after 3+ mins or after the dragon attack and going into dungeon indoors ? It ONLY crashes upon loading screens it doesn't seem to cause a CTD in other cases so yeah when going into the Dungeon
GenioMaestro Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Maybe you have a problem in the ini files of the game. You can make a security copy of yours ini files and delete it. Launch the game for autogenerate new INI files and see if the problem persist. If the problem is inside the ini files can use BethIni for try correct it. Open BethIni and select ENB Mode and Recomended Tweaks. Press High or Ultra and save/exit. Maybe is a problem inside the INI files of ENB. Rename or delete enblocal.ini and try again. Reinstall the last version of ENB. In last, look the dll's in the skyrim folder. Maybe you have some trash from others graphical injectors or others tools.
Psalam Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Spoiler 2 hours ago, Anurabis said: It ONLY crashes upon loading screens it doesn't seem to cause a CTD in other cases so yeah when going into the Dungeon I have to ask, do you have Windows 10? Using an ENB is more complicated if you do. GenioMaestro was kind enough to give me a reference to a "how to" guide if that is the case. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3089504-fix-for-skyrim-crashing-instantly-with-enb-on-windows-10/?p=56131491
Anurabis Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents I have to ask, do you have Windows 10? Using an ENB is more complicated if you do. GenioMaestro was kind enough to give me a reference to a "how to" guide if that is the case. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3089504-fix-for-skyrim-crashing-instantly-with-enb-on-windows-10/?p=56131491 Yes I am. Thanks for that. Sadly tho that didn't help. I tried everything on that list and it behaves exactly the same as before.
Andy14 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Sometimes the obvious is not the right thing. Are you sure that ENB is the problem? Or is it possible that ENB in conjunction with other mods "just overflow the barrel"? Do you have a list of mods and a Payrus.log that could help us?
Anurabis Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Andy14 said: Sometimes the obvious is not the right thing. Are you sure that ENB is the problem? Or is it possible that ENB in conjunction with other mods "just overflow the barrel"? Do you have a list of mods and a Payrus.log that could help us? It could be that something like that is the case. And the problem only occurs with ENB installed I'll attach my load order thought the mod list from MO might be even better in a spoiler so you can see for yourself but the game is not as heavily modded it even worked before I changed some of my hardware about half a year ago I didn't play it afterwards but since I set up everything new I can only imagine that the problem lies maybe with the hardware changes or the fact that due to faulty hardware I had to change my perviously upgraded Win7 to 10 to a genuine Win10 which apparently is different. Also don't have a papyrus log need to enable it and post it afterwards. Spoiler +FNIS Output +Helmet Toggle - Show Hide -Demoniac_Texture +Legendary Armor - DeserterX Bodyslided +Legendary Armors - DeserterX Collection Bodyslide Files +Legendary Armors - DeserterX Collection +The Amazing World of Bikin Armor Bodyslided +The Amazing World of Bikini Armor UUNP +The Amazing World of Bikini Armor +OneTweak +Dunno2 +Dunno +Nordic +Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair - 8K Res - v2.1.0 +SOS Pubic Hair for Females Bodyslided +SOS Pubic Hair for Females UUNP Bodyslide +SOS Pubic Hair for Females +SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - 3.00.004(1) +Ephilia Preset +UNP patch for YPS Immersive Fashion +HN66s Mage Nails +HN66s Hands and Nails for CBBE UNP SeveNbase Vanilla Witch Nails +HN66s Hands and Nails for CBBE UNP SeveNbase Vanilla +Kaw Claws-Colored Long Nails +KS Jewelry +HN66s Earrings +Test HDT Earrings -Exchange currency -Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade +Facial Piercings +yps-ImmersiveFashion(6.0.0) FULL +Devious Devices Bodyslided +Devious Devices Expansion +SlaveTats-1.3.0-beta-2 +Devious Devices Integration +Devious Devices Assets +Zaz Animation Pack UNP V.8.0.[2017.11.19] +dcc-soulgem-oven-v310 +SexLabAroused V28b +SexLabFramework v162 FULL +Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice +PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions +Sit animation +FNIS Sexy Move 360 Pack +FNIS Sexy Move +Victorias High Heel walk Animation plus BBP +sexy idle Animation +Feminine Running and New Dash Animation +Feminine Khajiit Textures (Grey Cat and Leopard) [UNP] +Feminine Argonian Textures (Chameleon and Lizard) [UNP] +Fair Skin Complexion +KS Hairdos - Renewal Breast Weight Painted Hair +KS Hairdos - Renewal +Apachii Skyhair - Breast Weight Painted Female +Apachii Skyhair - Breast Weight Painted +ApachiiSkyHairFemale +ApachiiSkyHair +Floating Healthbars +UIExtensions +HDT High Heeled Boots +Amor Replacer Custom Body +Full HDT Physics Kit +Body +UUNP FemaleBody HDT +MiniDresses Collection for UUNP Bodyslide +UNP Minidresses Collection +Remodeled Armor for UUNP BodySlide HDT -High-Res Texture Pack -Ethereal Elven Overhaul +Wireframe Overlays for RaceMenu +THEHAGs Privat Tattoos for UNP - UNPB +NFG HIRAGANA and KATAKANA WarPaints - RaceMenu Overlay Plugins +NFG KANJI WarPaints - RaceMenu Overlay Plugin +WellGram Warpaints - RaceMenu Overlay Plugin 2.0 +Norse Themed Tattoo Pack for RaceMenu +Rutah Tattoo Pack for RaceMenu +The Coenaculi - RaceMenu Plugin for Tattoos +KJ Tattoos - Overlay Plugins for RaceMenu +Overlays Plugin +Acquisitive Soul Gems +Custom Body Preset +Alternate Start - Live Another Life +BodySlide and Outfit Studio +HDT HighHeels System +HDT Physics Extensions +NiOverride High Heels - NIOVHH Fixes +Fores New Idles in Skyrim - Spell +Fores New Idles in Skyrim - Creature Pack +Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS XXL -Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS +RaceMenu +SkyUI +XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended +Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch *DLC: Dawnguard *DLC: Dragonborn *DLC: HearthFires *DLC: HighResTexturePack01 *DLC: HighResTexturePack02 *DLC: HighResTexturePack03 EDIT: Not so fun fact, Papyrus doesn't create a log on this CTD...
Andy14 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Oops ... I do not use Mod Manager, but have you ever checked your loading order? At least with LOOT - is not omniscient - but better than what I see. Logging of Papyrus is disabled by default. In Libaries\Documents\MyGames\Skyrim is the Skyrim.ini. No idea - with Mod Manager - somewhere else. In this ini is a paragraph [Papyrus] and here this should be logging for: bEnableLogging = 1
Anurabis Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, Andy14 said: Oops ... I do not use Mod Manager, but have you ever checked your loading order? At least with LOOT - is not omniscient - but better than what I see. Logging of Papyrus is disabled by default. In Libaries\Documents\MyGames\Skyrim is the Skyrim.ini. No idea - with Mod Manager - somewhere else. In this ini is a paragraph [Papyrus] and here this should be logging for: bEnableLogging = 1 I enabled the papyrus logs and tried it multiple times. Also the above is not my load order it's my mod list. This is my load order: Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm hdtHighHeel.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp KJ Tattoos 4K.esp TheCoenaculiUNP.esp RutahTattooPack.esp RaceMenu - Norse Tattoos.esp wgwarpaint2p0.esp KanjiOverlays.esp KanaOverlays.esp Racemenu Wireframes.esp BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp NIOVHH.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp KS Hairdo's.esp SkyUI.esp FNIS.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp FNISSexyMove.esp Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp UIExtensions.esp SlaveTats.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp HN66mage4vanilla.esp FNISspells.esp RegnPiercings.esp HDTTESTEarring.esp yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp Earrings Set1.esp KS Jewelry.esp Kaw's Claws.esp HN66_NAILS4ALL.esp SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp LADX.esp HelmetToggle.esp Also while I'm at it thanks for trying to help me.
Andy14 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Your logs are in Libaries\Documents\MyGames\Skyrim\Logs. It is empty?
Anurabis Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Andy14 said: Your logs are in Libaries\Documents\MyGames\Skyrim\Logs. It is empty? That's exactly what I'm trying to say yes
Andy14 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, Anurabis said: That's exactly what I'm trying to say yes I'm sorry. Since I manage my mods myself and use neither NMM nor MO, maybe someone who needs these tools can help. I do not know if MO for Saves, Logs, etc. has its own folder (have you already looked in the profile folder?) or if MO stores the ini-files separately.
Anurabis Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 No MO doesn't store the papyrus files or those ini files separately it only stores the stuff that would go into the data folder separately and stores that somewhere else.
Andy14 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Try this: Start Skyrim. In Main Menu -> Open Console (left of 1, ~ or with german keyboard ^) Enter this Line: coc qasmoke Now, the Test cell should be loadet. Here - in the Test cell - press ESC and load a Savegame. If the Test cell not load - we have a big problem.
Psalam Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Spoiler 27 minutes ago, Anurabis said: No MO doesn't store the papyrus files or those ini files separately it only stores the stuff that would go into the data folder separately and stores that somewhere else. Here is what you need to do to enable Papyrus logging. Go to Skyrim.ini and open it in Notepad (or similar). In the long list of things found there you should see a section that lookss like this: [Papyrus] bEnableLogging=0 bEnableProfiling=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2.0 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000 fUpdateBudgetMS=2.0 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=115200 iMaxMemoryPageSize=1024 iMinMemoryPageSize=256 While I have read it many different ways (on the internet) I recommend that you set each of the first three settings to 1 (instead of 0). Now you should have a log when you get another crash. Make a note of what you've done though. When everything is better you'll want to go back and change it to 0 again since logging tends to strain the crummy Bugthesda engine.
Andy14 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Psalam said: [Papyrus]bEnableLogging=0 bEnableProfiling=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2.0 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000 fUpdateBudgetMS=2.0 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=115200 iMaxMemoryPageSize=1024 iMinMemoryPageSize=256 Your sure? bEnableProfiling=0 I think, bEnableProfiling=1 is better.
Psalam Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Yes, I'm sure that all 3 of those listed above (Including the one you pointed out) should be turned to one (as I mentioned - change three). If the OP is uncomfortable in his .ini files he could also download Bethini (from Nexus). It will control the .ini files for you. At a click of the mouse you can turn papyrus logging on and off.
Anurabis Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents Here is what you need to do to enable Papyrus logging. Go to Skyrim.ini and open it in Notepad (or similar). In the long list of things found there you should see a section that lookss like this: [Papyrus] bEnableLogging=0 bEnableProfiling=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2.0 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000 fUpdateBudgetMS=2.0 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=115200 iMaxMemoryPageSize=1024 iMinMemoryPageSize=256 While I have read it many different ways (on the internet) I recommend that you set each of the first three settings to 1 (instead of 0). Now you should have a log when you get another crash. Make a note of what you've done though. When everything is better you'll want to go back and change it to 0 again since logging tends to strain the crummy Bugthesda engine. I already enabled them just to make sure but still followed your instructions, it still doesn't create a log Also I tried going into the test hall but since that causes a loading screen same result: CTD
Psalam Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 As I just posted - try using Bethini (it will also help if your problem is elsewhere in your .ini files). Just make sure to enable logging. I'm surprised to hear that it hasn't worked for you. I've turned it on and off many times without problems. In my computer the logs are located here: C:\Users\Owner\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script
Andy14 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 A shot in the blue: Reinstall XPMSE - let it override (if prompted) Then run FNIS - from MO, logically. Then start Skyrim using SKSE launcher, also from MO. And make sure that MO, FNIS, SKSE, etc. all have ADMIN rights. If it does not work, we will continue to watch, but now I need some sleep - until then.
Anurabis Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Andy14 said: A shot in the blue: Reinstall XPMSE - let it override (if prompted) Then run FNIS - from MO, logically. Then start Skyrim using SKSE launcher, also from MO. And make sure that MO, FNIS, SKSE, etc. all have ADMIN rights. If it does not work, we will continue to watch, but now I need some sleep - until then. MO doesn't have a need to overwrite just to set priorities since it doesn't actually put the mods into a physical data folder where they overwrite each. So that doesn't change anything. 27 minutes ago, Psalam said: As I just posted - try using Bethini (it will also help if your problem is elsewhere in your .ini files). Just make sure to enable logging. I'm surprised to hear that it hasn't worked for you. I've turned it on and off many times without problems. In my computer the logs are located here: C:\Users\Owner\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script Tried it since programs usually make less errors then people if they're good written and well logs still don't happen for whatever reason ENB totally and completely fucks up my entire skyrim and everything associated with it -__- and it's even a complete fresh install from just 2 days ago so that doesn't help either
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